I dont even know where to start with this level of gaslighting. Are people so uneducated about the long standing role of business in suppressing the dēmos that they'd actually come to believe that they are the solution instead of the problem? Universal sufferage came about in no small part because of the oppressive role business played in curtailing the rights of labour. Democracy literally exists to balance business (first the land owning class, then the capitalist class) in society, which unless said business is a co-op, is inherently undemocratic. If you want to restore democracy, a good start would be to 1. remove business from the democratic process, and money out of politics 2. Change the system from FPTP - which is used by the UK a country that does not even have an elected upper chamber, and Belarus need i even say more about them - to a PR system. FPTP is what you use when you dont want real democracy but want to be able to pretend that you do at face value. Edit: also pls do not conflate rule of law with democracy. Business has always used rule of law as a weapon against the dēmos to protect their interests - the police and judiciary were literally originally created to protect land owners from the dēmos who dared ask for more gruel - and fought tooth and nail to subvert democracy with undue political influence using their power and wealth. Thanks for coming to my (the real) TedTalk.

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

You're right! This is pure gaslighting. Overall, I like TED talks, but this is toxic

@paulbo9033

Ай бұрын

@@pleegjepleegje I am heartened by most of the comments indicating that ppl fully understand that state capture of democracy by business is the problem.

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

@paulbo9033 Same here. I wasn't expecting that. These comments are a kind of relief to me

@Schmidtelpunkt

Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@Sathyanp88

Ай бұрын

I share the same view! The only way businesses can renew democarcy is by converting their businesses to co-op.

Business should stay out of politics

@donovanroberts8607

Ай бұрын

Easy to say, not going to happen because government interferes in business. They write legislations to crush some industries while giving funding and tax breaks to others. example, gas vs electric vehicles. They set safety standards they know will destroy smaller business to eliminate competitors of larger corporations. Example the banking sector which once has 1000s of different banks across America which is now monopolized by a few. As long as the government can choose winners and loser in an economy, capitalists will have a reason to leverage and control this power to their benefit. The only way to a constitutional amendment separating the free market from the state. The government should only be in charge adjudicating crimes and enforcing contracts. Setting trade policy. Setting blanket taxation levels to all. Dealing with military and local law enforcement. But should never be able to fund one company over another. For more info on how this would work, check Ayn Rand. It's impossible to get money out of politics, because there is too much to be gained from doing so. But you can get politics out of money by reducing politicians ability to affect the economy, there by reducing peoples need to influence politicians.

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

Absolutely 👍

@kenndygm6277

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. But I think that advocation government is very essential it’s help for business have a opportunity approach to people a lot of better and will progress permanent .

@elgalloazul

Ай бұрын

Ha ha. Yes. Look at the state USA's in! Nobody wants that. Actually, a couple of dozen people do...

@Dave05J

19 күн бұрын

Politics lay the ground for business ,so one can't ignore it.

1. By stopping bribing politicians to mold legislation in their favor. 2. Stop thwarting the formation of unions.

Remember that one of the slogans of fascism was nothing outside of the state. The use of commerce to punish dissidents is indeed a step in that direction.

" Renew Democracy "... ? What do you think you have now..?

@elgalloazul

18 күн бұрын

Answer: plutocracy, or electoral aristocracy, or at the very least, oligarchy. One day of heavily-constrained, badly-disinformed "democracy" every 4 years.

Corpos are trying to make Cyberpunk real but without the cool cybernetics.

It's not your job to fight disinformation, because you don't know if you're fighting disinformation or necessary criticism of the system. You're in no position to say what the truth is. If you believe you do, if you think it's your responsibility to protect the government from the people, you've set the course towards fascism. In order to protect democracy against authoritarianism, you must protect free speech and open debates, also for those you believe are wrong in cause and facts. Because they believe they are right just as much as you do. Neither you or them should be in a position to decide who gets to be "responsible" and protect anyone from the other. If you believe you do, then you're the danger.

why is there a ted talk for something that's clearly a political belief? what's there to learn from this?

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

Right? Well said 👏

Business influence on the political sphere is one of the reason people are dissatisfied with Democracy...

Just seeing the title and i knew this was not gonna be something i agreed with... With business owners having a spectrum of beliefs ranging from idealistic to authoritarian or outright prejudiced, I don't think centralizing power further into the hands of the monetarily controlling class is a good idea. Musk himself regurgitated anti-semetic rhetoric on the platform he now owns... normalizing the fundamental problems we have with finances already governing politics (no pun intended) which unironically already harm a majority of people to benefit a minority of them, as well as further harming marginalized groups seems like the worst possible option.

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

The most unappealing title and talk ever indeed😭

Would be interested in hearing a follow-up segment (or two) on how two points of concern might influence Ms Ballou-Aures' assertion that business leaders' participation in the political process are crucial to its survival. First, how do doctrines such as the Lewis Powell Memorandum, of 1972, square with her ideology? Second, if the hypothesis that sociopathic disorder is at least as prevalent as autism and such individuals tend to gravitate towards such highly disproportionate reward structures as are found in business enterprises, how do we mitigate their (sociopaths) impact on the shaping and influence of American - and global - politics such that we turn back from the precipice at which we find ourselves? Ten thousand years of human history tells us that the default solution is always bloody...and growing more so with each iteration. Are we truly smarter than those who came before us or merely suffering from a bit too much collective narcissism?

We need your money to go no strings attached to Indigenous Climate Action, green parties, Sunrise Movement, and in the US get behind grass roots democratic socialist candidates at all levels. Stay out of politics as business people. Get involved as citizens.

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

Exactly 👍

Many of us Gen X grew our businesses and raised our children while also taking to the streets, working on political change through policy and through building alternative economic streams. Challenging corporate control. My peers who went off to get MBAs belittled and actively undermined our efforts with ill-informed votes. “Communism is a distant memory” your mark of authoritarianism ? as if the neoliberal colonial capacities you folks temporarily won at isn’t authoritarian. Please consider listening to the courageous leaders we already have and use your money and influence to uplift Indigenous Climate Action and other people who have not shied away from this obligation like my rich GenX cohort has chosen to do.

When business leaders have to “fix” our democracy… that’s when you know we don’t have a democracy

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

So true😢

@Ruby_Villain

Ай бұрын

That’s when you know business leaders are the ones “ruining” our democracy

"and wars become far more likely" Excuse me, do you know who profits from war? Businesses. These days its pretty much only businesses as borders are pretty much set and private businesses are the only ones capable of resource extraction under capitalism (lets get this straight here, "democracy" isnt the problem here, its capitalism).

She keeps citing this strange god , 'democracy'; the US is a corporate oligharchy and has been since John Adams' time. In light of that this whole post appears as empty emo verbage -unfortunately.

You can do your part by spreading Managed Democracy, citizen. Would you like to know more?

@paulbo9033

Ай бұрын

I'm doing my part! ☺️

@YouLoveMrFriendly

Ай бұрын

She's part of the World Economic Forum. Check their website for her profile.

Same is happening in India , we are at season 15, the grand finale. During Indian Independence, pro democracy business like Jamnalal Bajaj , Tatas helped strengthened Indian Democracy. But today all that is faltering. World should be made aware

You do have corporate mentality, and do not truly comprehend the power structure behind politics and modern corporate puppies, the extended version of religious RE-LIGION of AH-RE-MN like Pope in funky custom's in Vatican! Farbot Burun'Net Nia

She is featured on the World Economic Forum website.

American manufacturing failed when the corporate leadership switched to business school leadership from engineering driven.

I want to state this simply... Business can help democracy... But they won't... It's not in the best interest of their bottom line or their shareholders to do so... The end.

Standing out of it! Capitalism is RUINING it!

@pleegjepleegje

Ай бұрын

Agreed 👍

@Dave05J

19 күн бұрын

LoL. Talk about being uneducated...

She makes the case for having a political ecology and critical theory education in undergrad - just figuring out now that institutions are fragile where social benefit and “democracy” is concerned? Grateful for her example of organizing and what is necessary to build consensus on preserving rule of law. Issue is rule of law right now doesn’t work for those who didn’t Harvard.

No there isn't. There this lifelong true Independent fixed it for you.

It's funny how the notion in the comment section equals politics with democracy. Both are not the same. A business leader could tell their local and regional politicians based on internal company surveys how the people are feeling at this moment. Politicians could then implement the policies that lead to the right measures to improve conditions for as many parties as possible. As of now, it's mostly just CEOs and SIGs (Special Interest Groups) threatening politicians with job losses in the country and that is certainly not democratic, but highly political. The people, that don't have any power in voting power democracy are in the economical lower class and children. CEOs could improve certain situations if they had any incentives to do so, which is not the case because cheap workforce is cheap workforce.

Sounds more like an oligarchy

Want to help a dues paying org? Don’t create a new one ffs. Please invest in your unions in your business sector. Invest in River Keepers.

Nah, but more than 2 political parties would help...

@Dave05J

19 күн бұрын

There are 6 political parties already.

So yeah, I live within five miles of the Capitol and on Jan 6th and I couldn’t hear/see anything. In fact , I’m not aware of any location outside of the district where this would be possible. The attempted coup was indeed horrible, but fibbing about this doesn’t help.

The USA was never a democracy in the first place. The word doesn't appear once in our founding documents.

Hooray for Ted 🤞👍🙆‍♂️🙆‍♀️🙆

She is confusing policy & politics.

Not Excellent! My Promocracy design would be better. Business leaders are not the only group of people to have ideas.

@louminisalouminios9559

Ай бұрын

this might be the only positive comment in the whole comment section

this aint it, chief

Trump 2024 is what we need

@gr329

Ай бұрын

😂

@TheAmericanAmerican

Ай бұрын

No

@MrInvicktus

Ай бұрын

She said we don't need authoritarians

@Torsee

Ай бұрын

Orange Jesus? Oh god no!

@bamafarmboy6175

Ай бұрын

The polls say that's who you are getting 😂😂😂

God loves you and takes care of you so that this message reaches you. God is the one who created this great universe and has complete control over it. And the greatest loss that a person loses in this life is that he lives while he does not know God who created him, knowing the Messenger of Muhammad, the last of the messengers, and the Islamic religion, the last of the heavenly religions. The great intelligence, before you believe in something or not, is to read it, study it, and understand it well, and then you have the choice to believe in it or not. I advise you on this now before you do not have time to do that.

@Torsee

Ай бұрын

Save it for Sunday!

Business and government merging for power, you do know that is called fascism?