How Apple profits from hurting Facebook

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Apple announced their iOS privacy changes last year, stopping apps from tracking users across apps. At the same time, they also increased their ad revenue 10-fold and are planning to roll out ads to Maps, TV, Books, Podcasts & more to build out their own ad empire.
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  • @TechAltar
    @TechAltar Жыл бұрын

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  • @ranjitpal9937

    @ranjitpal9937

    Жыл бұрын

    How Are Apple , Google Surviving In China 🇨🇳 Without Sharing Data To The Communist Regime ( Party ) of China 🤔 ? ?

  • @JoaoPedro-ki7ct

    @JoaoPedro-ki7ct

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thetriankh The video was already uploaded a while ago, but it used to be private/unlisted, and apparently KZread resets the time it was sent when you set it to public.

  • @sailaab

    @sailaab

    Жыл бұрын

    💙🤍👌🏽👍🏼

  • @artofverity8791

    @artofverity8791

    Жыл бұрын

    I want to support creators but the nebula app leaves a lot to be desired.

  • @AbhinavKulshreshtha
    @AbhinavKulshreshtha Жыл бұрын

    I understand ads on free apps, but to show ads on a $10/month subscription apple app, on $1000 apple device, This is disgusting.

  • @sasom7274

    @sasom7274

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m actually starting to hate apple. It used to be you pay a premium price for a premium product. You weren’t the product like with others. Now it’s just grabbing the last penny for whatever it takes.

  • @fetchstixRHD

    @fetchstixRHD

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, at least if they're going to do that, they may as well support right to repair, after all the longer the device works for, the more profit from ads... right? Why are y'all shaking your heads at me for?

  • @tonivoul1971

    @tonivoul1971

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fetchstixRHD right to repair is an another way apple to sale their products

  • @sasom7274

    @sasom7274

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fetchstixRHD They want you to pay for official repairs, new products, see ads and pay subscriptions. I’m starting to think they don’t mind making faulty items because it only drives up apple care profits and device purchases. So they will never support right to repair. We need legislation.

  • @traviskitteh

    @traviskitteh

    Жыл бұрын

    That's capitalism! ™ *Cue canned laughter.*

  • @Daivd1111
    @Daivd1111 Жыл бұрын

    People tend to forget that Apple is a company too. It's there to make money not help people, all the privacy and environment talks are just there to sell more phones.

  • @RealLifeTech187

    @RealLifeTech187

    Жыл бұрын

    Nooo. Noooooo. Tim Apple cares about every iPhone owner and knows them by name 😂😂 They are his personal friends.

  • @Entertainment-

    @Entertainment-

    Жыл бұрын

    The only way companies ethically make money is by providing products and services people like and voluntarily purchase. Of course there will be some externalities that use corrupt political systems to have their way.

  • @Phoenix56801

    @Phoenix56801

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RealLifeTech187 Ikr, he called me this morning that someone attempted to unlock my phone, he's a good guy

  • @ScotterOtter

    @ScotterOtter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RealLifeTech187 -should have used Tim Apple- but who am I to say.

  • @RealLifeTech187

    @RealLifeTech187

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ScotterOtter thanks for pointing out. my bad.

  • @prospersikhwari5289
    @prospersikhwari5289 Жыл бұрын

    First they remove your charger for the environment and now they track you under the guise of privacy. Nice one Apple

  • @anon_y_mousse

    @anon_y_mousse

    Жыл бұрын

    And because they did, others also removed the charger. Don't have one compatible with the new device? You're screwed.

  • @silak33

    @silak33

    Жыл бұрын

    Jokes on them. It's hard to track a phone which doesn't have any power 🙃

  • @austinhernandez2716

    @austinhernandez2716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anon_y_mousse why would it not be compatible? Most use the same. It ain't the 90s anymore

  • @anon_y_mousse

    @anon_y_mousse

    Жыл бұрын

    @@austinhernandez2716 Non-compliance with standards. Watch Louis Rossmann's video where he tries three different devices with three different chargers with limited success. Although, Samsung may have the best chargers if his results are anything to go by.

  • @deivytrajan

    @deivytrajan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@austinhernandez2716 my oneplus dash charge doesn’t work to charge my new iphone, even if use correct cable. also old chargers will charge your phone slower at the very least

  • @walid6329
    @walid6329 Жыл бұрын

    it's funny that you pay for a service but you still see ADs😂😂😂 and Apple painted an image that no one is criticizing amazing video thanks for it🙏🏼

  • @XXXX4690

    @XXXX4690

    Жыл бұрын

    this is why people pirate

  • @potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746

    @potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746

    Жыл бұрын

    This is why i will always block ads and stick to being a pirate my whole life. I'm not a fan of who intrusive the world is to humans and i will never support it

  • @tycooperaow

    @tycooperaow

    Жыл бұрын

    But netflix got a ton of flack for it

  • @chemicalfrankie1030

    @chemicalfrankie1030

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't get your point - where are the ads?

  • @worchoc552

    @worchoc552

    Жыл бұрын

    ok so all in all if I got all the magazine subscriptions I regularly read separately without apple news it would be around $75-$80, that's not including the occasional random article ill get from other mags I wouldn't pay for. their the only ones with a news subscription. I don't mind the extra thumb swipe to only pay $10 for my magazines

  • @dragosionescu1
    @dragosionescu1 Жыл бұрын

    Right, so first they kicked out all the ad competition from their devices (in the name of users privacy), just so they can later build their own ad service into their ecosystem, which they will obviously claim it's not breaking user privacy like others do.🤦‍♂️ Clever.

  • @bruxi78230

    @bruxi78230

    Жыл бұрын

    No they didn't. Apple gives its users a choice on third party tracking. When you are in a 1st party app, you're still tracked.

  • @truestopguardatruestop164

    @truestopguardatruestop164

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bruxi78230 if you think about it this way bigger companies (that have more apps) are advantaged, effectively suppressing smaller ones and suffocating competition

  • @bruxi78230

    @bruxi78230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@truestopguardatruestop164 --- I get your point, but there are plenty examples where that's not the case. Look at music. Spotify has 3x subscribers compared to Apple Music even though Apple as a company is 15 times larger. No suppression or suffocating there. Even though Spotify is the biggest bunch of whiners on earth. As a platform company Apple has enabled more small companies to participate in commerce than any company on earth.

  • @floppa9415
    @floppa9415 Жыл бұрын

    If this doesn't get them anti-trusted I will loose all faith in the regulatory body.

  • @Urbancombat423

    @Urbancombat423

    Жыл бұрын

    if google gets hurt by it significantly, then maybe, but that wont happen unless people suddenly stop using youtube and google search at least. As usual barely anything gets antitruted and many companies like microsoft and all of these tech giants have been doing it for years

  • @Valenslays

    @Valenslays

    Жыл бұрын

    I already have but have fun ig

  • @anon_y_mousse

    @anon_y_mousse

    Жыл бұрын

    At least 100 antitrust lawsuits should have already been filed against numerous corporations, some multiple times over, and yet 0 have been in the past 20 years. How did you still have faith in the regulations let alone those administering them?

  • @Lvlaple4Ever

    @Lvlaple4Ever

    Жыл бұрын

    The US anti-trust has already been a joke for the last 2 decades.

  • @billjamal4764

    @billjamal4764

    Жыл бұрын

    Apple brings in way too much tax dollars, nothing's gonna happen.

  • @charleschaimkohl
    @charleschaimkohl Жыл бұрын

    Highly underrated channel. These stories are fascinating! Great job!

  • @ionutelu5288

    @ionutelu5288

    Жыл бұрын

    the only problem is that sometimes he treats subjects a little too personally

  • @liberty0758

    @liberty0758

    Жыл бұрын

    Underrated? Dude has more than 600k subs.

  • @why_tho_

    @why_tho_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ionutelu5288 yep

  • @Sundara229
    @Sundara229 Жыл бұрын

    It just boggles the mind how successful Apple is with their approach. Unlike Google, people totally believe (if there's any merit to it or not is a different topic) and trust their claims. Would absolutely love to see those things are planned and run internally.

  • @Dhruv-qw7jf

    @Dhruv-qw7jf

    Жыл бұрын

    It's largely because of Steve Jobs. Apple is still highly associated with Steve Jobs, the guy who saw scratches on the plastic screen of the first iPhone during it's presentation and got them to change it's display to glass because of it, even though many of the models must have already been developed by that point.

  • @yaziyo

    @yaziyo

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the nature of their products gives them that trust. Although we know that Apple is a whole lot more, most consumers see them as the hardware company. As a hardware company, it's easier to believe claims about privacy ("we want people that use our devices to have the best treatment"). Consumers see Google as a software company that makes a whole heap of free software in exchange for data. I would think that eventually, if and when Apple does manage to slice itself a significant enough piece of the advertising pie to get noticed, that that trust will probably start to be challenged. And that's not to say that people will stop using their products - everyone knows that Google & Facebook know every last thing about us, and most of us (me included) still use their products. Hell, I'm writing this commment into a Google product (KZread) right now.

  • @danieldorellazar305

    @danieldorellazar305

    Жыл бұрын

    Great show!!!! My wife has an iPhone. And very time she opens a new page on Internet to see time forecast, for example, she always push the "alow" button, because it's faster than enter the list of stuff she should not alow to do the tracking. And it's the same on android. The majority of my relatives doesn't even know or bother with this privacy and tracking. Sooo, they push the "alow" button without even think about it. 😊😊. I began to be concerned about this some years ago, when me an my wife were talking about going together at the mall to buy new wonderbra (for her😅). While we were speaking, she was idly browsing her FB app and a few scholls after, she began to receive wonderbra advertising.

  • @janswienink

    @janswienink

    Жыл бұрын

    Unlike google they where always open about it in the settings, and you always had the chance to opt out or swipe your idfa records. I have a Apple TV and an smart tv with Android, talking about ad’s just look at the opening screen.

  • @MrJairforce

    @MrJairforce

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chemicalfrankie1030 This isn’t true at all. You’d be shocked at the amount of iPhones you see around Silicon Valley.

  • @MilanStojakov
    @MilanStojakov Жыл бұрын

    There are no evidence that apple is more privacy oriented than other competitors. In fact in privacy oriented communities Apple is very much crtizied. All of their claims was just PR campaign, since nobody can really disrupt their claims.

  • @marekd2733

    @marekd2733

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, Apple is definitely the most privacy oriented if you believe their statements as you can't really tell because everything is closed source. But I do feel like all this privacy is just some "wall" so customers believe but in the background, all of it will be used to benefit Apple. Sure they will sell it with "what is on iPhone stays in iPhone" and so any tracking or anything is basically "encrypted" on the device and that apple doesn't know you only your phone knows you but they don't even need to know you if they will have a way to show you ads in "a private" way.

  • @PvtAnonymous

    @PvtAnonymous

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marekd2733 they see privacy like all companies nowadays: "Trust us, your data is safe with us, but all the others are bad guys who will sell your data and f**k your mothers. We're the good guys, I swear!". In reality Apple is able to aggregate the most data EVER. They control so many devices and services, they are probably the biggest big data player in the health space, which is kinda scary.

  • @skywz

    @skywz

    Жыл бұрын

    They are known to be much better than mainstream forks of Android like Samsung's or Google's, as well as Windows, especially if iCloud is disabled. However, a more tech-savvy user who cares about their privacy would never use either -- they would instead use Linux on the desktop and either Calyx OS or Graphene OS on mobile.

  • @marekd2733

    @marekd2733

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skywz Yes, but for basic people who do care but not enough to be too techy is Apple a great choice. But ... there is but ... or more like if ... what if Apple planning to do "something"..

  • @SreejithKSGupta

    @SreejithKSGupta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skywz you don't make sense.. stock Android is just Android.. open source code that can be pulled and compiled by anyone.. or checked by anyone. It does not contain any code. The likes of calyx os take the code, and add Gapps using microg ( which guess what, every other android implementation can too.), And market the shit out of it. If you want the best privacy available, you should use the stock Android, stay away from anything other than open source apps.

  • @spiderpig5842
    @spiderpig5842 Жыл бұрын

    Please add unskippable full screen ads on ios.

  • @user-wd9jd6zc6h

    @user-wd9jd6zc6h

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't worry it's under development by Apple in California

  • @spiderpig5842

    @spiderpig5842

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-wd9jd6zc6h Assembled in West Taiwan

  • @aviationnation2467

    @aviationnation2467

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spiderpig5842 💀

  • @dksdmusic

    @dksdmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Exclusively used unpaid labourers from third world countries😀

  • @MarnixUwU
    @MarnixUwU Жыл бұрын

    Apple: *absolutely destroys 3rd part ad platforms * Apple: let's get big on ads. Genuinely they should get shredded by antitrust lawsuits for this. Edit: ALSO. Apple is LITERALLY going to do the same as Google's cookie replacement, which Google got BLASTED for. So why is Apple not facing ANY scrutiny on this regard??

  • @zerotwo_.002

    @zerotwo_.002

    Жыл бұрын

    cuz apple sheeps

  • @billjamal4764

    @billjamal4764

    Жыл бұрын

    Because people who use apple products do not give a fuck about this kid of stuff. They buy a phone, and have a phone. They don't want to look into it, or deal with anything.

  • @KieranCrown

    @KieranCrown

    Жыл бұрын

    Essentially you have to not care about privacy or use a blackberry 😂

  • @MarnixUwU

    @MarnixUwU

    Жыл бұрын

    @@billjamal4764 I get that it's easy to criticize them but this has nothing to do with Apple users. This is about Apple being a monopolist.

  • @bruxi78230

    @bruxi78230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MarnixUwU ---- You can't be a monopolist with 18% of the market. In the Epic case the judge already declared them to NOT be a monopoly.

  • @pakiw2
    @pakiw2 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine that you own a company and you use apple devices for your business. It brings out questions how much data apple will have about your business. And it's not a secret that other competitors in this area really use their data for profit. How safe all of this is for private and for commercial sides. From employee visited sites and clicks can be retrieved a lot of sensetive information. Nothing is free you pay for everything with your anamity. With apple it is you pay on top for that.

  • @PvtAnonymous

    @PvtAnonymous

    Жыл бұрын

    so many people use Google or Microsoft as a backbone for their IT, it honestly doesn't matter anymore.

  • @Randomdive
    @Randomdive Жыл бұрын

    To be honest, I trust Google more on this front ironically due to the fact that they're an advertising company first, and therefore much more obvious and transparent in the way they use data.

  • @yoman9446

    @yoman9446

    Жыл бұрын

    "transpaent" oh boy would you not love those leaked documents

  • @Randomdive

    @Randomdive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yoman9446 which leaked documents, the ones linked to Project Veritas?

  • @yoman9446

    @yoman9446

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Randomdive No, the documents that were presented in court. Even google employees rebelled against Google's privacy practices, they're not transparent at all.

  • @Randomdive

    @Randomdive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yoman9446 Link (or keywords to search)? None of this would be surprising to me, but the closest thing I've been able to find is Google employees being fired for data misuse which is a bit of a different situation.

  • @yoman9446

    @yoman9446

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Randomdive Sorry I forgot the account that posted it on twitter. It was from a lawyer who usually posts about big tech lawsuits. Anyway, my point is, never trust corpos. "trust" is the exact thing they exploit and "power" lets them screw you over.

  • @the_aurora
    @the_aurora Жыл бұрын

    2:33 It took me 6 seconds to get to the advertising ID on Windows. 1. Win+i (Settings) 2. Privacy & Security 3. General 4. Press on the Advertising ID slider Bonus: Windows asks you whenever the installation is new whether you want the advertising ID enabled or not. I honestly don't know about Android being this transparent. They might be calling it something like "Better and personalized experience" instead.

  • @shahan484

    @shahan484

    Жыл бұрын

    in my xiaomi, you get option to get targeted ads or random ads. And opt into user experience program.

  • @anon_y_mousse

    @anon_y_mousse

    Жыл бұрын

    It took me 0 seconds to get the advertising ID on my system. I don't have one. I use Linux, free, open source, secure and private.

  • @just_very_queer

    @just_very_queer

    Жыл бұрын

    but windows track you anyway, the button doesn't do anything...

  • @the_aurora

    @the_aurora

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anon_y_mousse ok

  • @the_aurora

    @the_aurora

    Жыл бұрын

    @@just_very_queer Did you know that Google, Facebook, Apple and many more track you regardless of what you do too? I know! Shock!

  • @roundedosu
    @roundedosu Жыл бұрын

    it's the best time ever to switch to free open source software and repairable hardware

  • @marekd2733

    @marekd2733

    Жыл бұрын

    CalyxOS seems to be a nice Android System. However, I can't figure out what laptop I should use... MacBook is fantastic, but I don't like where all of this is going ...

  • @PvtAnonymous

    @PvtAnonymous

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marekd2733 wait for Asahi Linux to get better. I'm waiting too. In the Windows realm you only get overpriced garbage laptops these days, don't plan on buying any of them.

  • @BuggiEU

    @BuggiEU

    Жыл бұрын

    Name the most accessible and user-friendly of these please.

  • @protocetid

    @protocetid

    18 күн бұрын

    @@PvtAnonymous look, another person who has never heard of businesses laptops or Framework

  • @PvtAnonymous

    @PvtAnonymous

    18 күн бұрын

    @@protocetid Framework is overpriced, what are you talking about?

  • @greyareaRK1
    @greyareaRK1 Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe anyone didn't see this coming the moment they made proclamations about privacy; it was SO unlike them.

  • @pitonpriscal3379

    @pitonpriscal3379

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. It was giving the vibe of "Hold on a minute, something ain't right". Little to no company would like to live without the business of ads. Let's put it as a sus category at first but this came up, expectedly Apple.

  • @blugaledoh2669

    @blugaledoh2669

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertmusil1107 most of us know they are bullshiting, we just don't care.

  • @arandomhumanbeing2464

    @arandomhumanbeing2464

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertmusil1107 but the savings on packaging did prevent a massive amount of waste. Who cares what’s the intention when the effect is real.

  • @davemarinas3259

    @davemarinas3259

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arandomhumanbeing2464 Not going usb-c 3 years ago is bad for the environment

  • @assassinul95
    @assassinul95 Жыл бұрын

    This tells you how greedy these corporations are and how little they care about anything other than money, they already made to the top but they wanted more so let's give users ads

  • @dsnodgrass4843
    @dsnodgrass4843 Жыл бұрын

    It's funny how every other content suffers diminishing returns from oversaturation; but somehow intrusive annoying advertising never does.

  • @memoriesmuseum2824
    @memoriesmuseum2824 Жыл бұрын

    11:22 Bro just said “if you hate advertising” then hit us with an advertisement 😂😂😂😂

  • @theunknown21329
    @theunknown21329 Жыл бұрын

    Love your content. It's not too complicated in any way for anybody to understand but very interesting at the same time. Keep up the good work🙂

  • @hridoyabdullah5133
    @hridoyabdullah5133 Жыл бұрын

    To be honest,It will hurt Apple on the long term cause you see, Apple’s main selling point is it’s “Luxury Status” and one thing I know about luxury is that they don’t show you “10$ All you can eat” ad of your local food chain 💁‍♂️🐸

  • @billjamal4764

    @billjamal4764

    Жыл бұрын

    Apples main selling point in their largest market, the USA, is not luxary. Apple product pricing here is competitive with other brands, and since it was the first good smartphone here, many people just continue buying iPhones, because they work good enough. And they don't really care if there's some ads here or there

  • @Enrico-

    @Enrico-

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't see how owning an iPhone gives you a "premium" ad-free experience. It's the same amount of ads of a normal android phone. They may have less ads and bloatware than chinese brands but It's the old tale of how android stock doesn't matter to the 99%.

  • @Phoenix56801
    @Phoenix56801 Жыл бұрын

    I always laugh when people on Twitter bring up the argument that iphones are better because of privacy.

  • @hullstar242

    @hullstar242

    Жыл бұрын

    Well it is true that iPhones are better when it comes to privacy in that it all stays on your phone. In other ecosystems it goes through multiple channels and can be sold and passed around to different companies. Still shady but it’s definitely better. The thing im anxious about is ads in maps, am I going to have to pay for maps to not get ads???

  • @Phoenix56801

    @Phoenix56801

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hullstar242 Don't believe everything Apple tells you

  • @Colbys92
    @Colbys92 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always man. Thank you for the work

  • @lars9925
    @lars9925 Жыл бұрын

    I don't particularly care about tracking, my main problem is advertising. I hate ads and I am going to quite some length to get rid of them.

  • @user-wd9jd6zc6h

    @user-wd9jd6zc6h

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate ads but I can't turn it off on my iPad 🥲 No matter what path I try

  • @lars9925

    @lars9925

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@FueledbyJohn Well, an ad blocker is giving me peace from ads, and I am kinda satisfied. They may keep watching me but their ads won't reach me.

  • @Kushpatel9047

    @Kushpatel9047

    Жыл бұрын

    It sucks because a consumer can’t go anywhere. It feels like you’re going to get targeted using either operating systems (there are only two unfortunately). The best I can do is not pay for any subscriptions from apple. I already have sideloaded KZread apps to prevent ad exposure, I wonder if there are apps that can disable tracking ID in iOS or android.

  • @xerzy

    @xerzy

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Kushpatel9047 Here’s my humble proposal for a way out, from easiest to hardest: Firefox with uBlock Origin, privacytools, a Linux distro (best “just works” choices imho are Fedora Kinoite, Fedora Silverblue, KDE Neon and elementary OS, make sure to install stuff from the store that comes out of the box for best results), a free Android (LineageOS by microG is great for all kinds of users!). Always keep backups, and if you need any help, make sure to ask over chat groups, which you may find over e.g. subreddits. If you think this might work for you, good luck and don’t hesitate to ask!

  • @Kushpatel9047

    @Kushpatel9047

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xerzy damn that's a good start. Thanks

  • @raymondjin6812
    @raymondjin6812 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Apple putting ads was kind of inevitable, considering how much platform leverage they have. First they make third party tracking less effective, and then convince third party developers/companies to use their ad network. Having ads in search functions like maps, App Store, and podcasts is fine to me personally, but I draw the line at putting ads in content and everyday apps. Like, I already unsubscribed from apple news because I'm paying for the magazines already, but there's still ads every couple of scrolls. If I start seeing ads in say, weather or reminders, those are easy switches to other competitors.

  • @oo--7714

    @oo--7714

    Жыл бұрын

    They are already on android phones, I don’t see a problem

  • @nedzhmiyusuf6557
    @nedzhmiyusuf6557 Жыл бұрын

    There was a rumor that they are working on a first-party search engine. If this happens, i can image when you search for something the first results might be ads as well, just like Google

  • @nothing9220
    @nothing9220 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysisation as usual....

  • @ChristianMueller
    @ChristianMueller Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your good contenct. Think I'm a part of the silence big part, but want to rais that I'm subscribed to nebula since you mentioned it first and like your researches.

  • @longnightsofsolace4010
    @longnightsofsolace4010 Жыл бұрын

    Geez, they're already willing to throw away an advantage like that already. I already despise Microsoft for having the gall to charge for Windows and still have ads/data collection and it would the same for Apple. For all of Google's BS, they don't pretend and they offer excellent services in exchange for your data. Plus with Android, you have several ways of pushing them out.

  • @protocetid

    @protocetid

    18 күн бұрын

    a consequence of having a smartphone OS duopoly, to make matters worse young people here almost exclusively buy iPhones

  • @prospectnyc
    @prospectnyc Жыл бұрын

    This is meta af. This video is an ad itself for Nebula.

  • @joseph7858
    @joseph7858 Жыл бұрын

    The reason, why I don‘t like to watch you on nebula is that the UX (at least in iOS/iPad) is really bad and I don‘t have the possibility to read and leave comments.

  • @B.Ch3rry
    @B.Ch3rry Жыл бұрын

    I don’t use Apple Maps, News, Arcade, or Fitness+… Hopefully avoiding this apps will limit the advertisements I have to see.

  • @davepubliday6410
    @davepubliday6410 Жыл бұрын

    Turning to ads for revenue shows a complete lack of imagination for what kinds of new things they could build and make money on. This is troubling, and perhaps the beginning of the end for Apple. Apple should remain a hardware company, and leave the evil that ad revenue requires to Facebook, Google, etc.

  • @zinjanthropus322

    @zinjanthropus322

    Жыл бұрын

    They are also trying to copy Tesla at the same time. The organisation has become creatively bankrupt.

  • @hirukashiro5995

    @hirukashiro5995

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's weird long-term wise. I thought many companies have started to try pivoting away slowly from ads revenue since privacy regulations and concerns slowly but surely gain momentum. Like how Meta pivots to AR/VR. It's like Apple has a backward thinking. Going back to ads as an income instead of avoiding it

  • @hirukashiro5995

    @hirukashiro5995

    Жыл бұрын

    If somehow someday Apple starts to become less relevant in the future, maybe many KZread video essays will address this pivot into ads business as one of the major mistake by Apple

  • @bruxi78230

    @bruxi78230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hirukashiro5995 --- Apple has spent 10x what Meta has on R&D for VR, you just haven't seen the product yet. Next year you will.

  • @alex-coelho

    @alex-coelho

    Жыл бұрын

    wait for the first ad on your apple virtual reality headset

  • @Kumar731995
    @Kumar731995 Жыл бұрын

    Really informative and eye opening

  • @armadillito
    @armadillito Жыл бұрын

    You’ve nearly persuaded me to get nebula. I’m annoyed but also impressed.

  • @astanoli
    @astanoli Жыл бұрын

    7:50 can someone please explain how do i get behind these folds of settings? Or point to a video or tutorial please?

  • @horiciOwO
    @horiciOwO Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call company that scans all of your photos using your device computing perfomance and battery privacy focused but maybe that's just me

  • @mapl3mage

    @mapl3mage

    Жыл бұрын

    didn't they scrap the plan for scanning after all the backlash?

  • @horiciOwO

    @horiciOwO

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mapl3mage only temporary

  • @bolow
    @bolow Жыл бұрын

    I would sell my iPhone and iPad if ads show anywhere, and install Linux on my MacBook Air.

  • @marekd2733

    @marekd2733

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there actually some good Linux for Macbook and the use of mac is basically "the same"? I don't want to get rid of this fantastic trackpad, audio, etc. There is no competition on Windows, and I'm not that friend with Linux ...

  • @therealdatenshi

    @therealdatenshi

    Жыл бұрын

    there's been ads in the app store for literal years, and nobody's complained up until now. literally nothing is going to change, because it's always been like this and nobody cares now, nobody will care in a year.

  • @marekd2733

    @marekd2733

    Жыл бұрын

    @@therealdatenshi If those ads will be only those in App Store. Also, there are also countries that don't have ads. So I'm actually curious what's gonna change if anything.

  • @SreejithKSGupta

    @SreejithKSGupta

    Жыл бұрын

    Then you might want to change ASAP.. Ads already show in appstore and news.. But something tells me that you would switch anyways...

  • @bolow

    @bolow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SreejithKSGupta I was talking about ads with external link, ads on AppStore are about apps already in the AppStore. Also when ads show up on apps with sensitive data such as Mail or iMessage.

  • @bipinmaharjan4090
    @bipinmaharjan4090 Жыл бұрын

    well paying 1k+ usd to see ads is amazing. 😂😂😂

  • @JanRiberChristensen
    @JanRiberChristensen Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @NoerLuin
    @NoerLuin Жыл бұрын

    Would have loved to see the other ads video you teased. Shame its behind a paywall....

  • @adadianian
    @adadianian Жыл бұрын

    I think when you open the appstore for the first time after setting up an iPhone, there is a opt-in pop-up for apple's own tracking. But that's just 1 pop-up for all apple services/apps. As far as my understanding goes, if you don't opt in, then for example music recommendations in apple music won't work properly.

  • @user-wd9jd6zc6h

    @user-wd9jd6zc6h

    Жыл бұрын

    I disabled all things from Apple but still gets ads

  • @adadianian

    @adadianian

    Жыл бұрын

    Ofc you do. Opting out of targeted ads doesn't remove ads. They're just not targeted to you based on your search history etc.

  • @marekd2733

    @marekd2733

    Жыл бұрын

    @@adadianian Yep, When installing windows there is note "disabling ads tracking will not mean you will see less ads but less relevant to you" which I mean is better than all the internet knowing that my next step is going to buy viagra

  • @thebaker8637

    @thebaker8637

    Жыл бұрын

    Content recommendations are separate. That's done in Settings > App Store > Personalized Recommendations and it's always been there. This is a new feature that is specific to /advertisements/ (i.e. content paid for by third parties to show up on your phone) and can be controlled in Settings > Privacy. Apple could do a much better job of explaining this but the popup has no bearing on recommendations for content and apps.

  • @AlexMacGregor
    @AlexMacGregor Жыл бұрын

    Insightful. Apple doing Ads is like Amazon doing hardware i.e it's not going to be straight-forward by no means.

  • @thommyduerr
    @thommyduerr Жыл бұрын

    stark, dass Du anscheinend den #Marktgeflüster - Podcast von Holger und Thomas hörst! :)

  • @Chubbywubbysandwich
    @Chubbywubbysandwich Жыл бұрын

    Ads is probably one of the most annoying ideas humanity has come up with.

  • @njbrx

    @njbrx

    Жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily, in some aspects, they’re fairly practical. For example, content creators on KZread making their money through ads instead of us having to pay for the videos. I am not talking about ads at the beginning of the video or the ones that pop up in the middle, rather the ones that are a part of the videos themselves

  • @Urbancombat423

    @Urbancombat423

    Жыл бұрын

    ads being done wrong is the mistake

  • @Chubbywubbysandwich

    @Chubbywubbysandwich

    Жыл бұрын

    @@njbrx yea you're right. The ones that are a part of the video can be skipped through so that it's ultimately a choice to watch or not. But the ones that are forced upon you in the beginning are just straight up torture. They personally do not work on me AT ALL. But since companies are spending that money on ads, there are probably some stupid people who actually get influenced by the ads...

  • @letsg0b0wling1
    @letsg0b0wling1 Жыл бұрын

    Deff a good video but I do want to point out an inconsistency. When you set up an iPhone for the first time, the first time you go into the App Store a pop up will ask you about opt in/out of apple advertising. If anyone wants to know what to do if they missed that initial pop up you can opt out by going to settings -> privacy and security-> apple advertising and you can opt out

  • @zukacs
    @zukacs Жыл бұрын

    for some reason one of my fav tech channels who goes deep into stuff

  • @Freak80MC
    @Freak80MC Жыл бұрын

    I don't use Apple and never will, but I gotta say this: Fuck ads. They are just visual and mental pollution and I will never buy a product from an ad so wherever I can, I turn them off.

  • @Vincent_Koech
    @Vincent_Koech Жыл бұрын

    Apple is a company that wants to make more money. I’m surprised people are furious. Never love a company.

  • @RadiantTwilight
    @RadiantTwilight Жыл бұрын

    If they really plan to bombard me with ads... I sure as hell will not be persuaded again to pay a premium for the hardware... they have to decrease prices quite a bit for me to be able to accept that.

  • @carrioncrow8191
    @carrioncrow8191 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve really enjoyed the lack of ads in this ecosystem. I am worried about how far they will take this

  • @raymondjin6812

    @raymondjin6812

    Жыл бұрын

    @potsmoker54 Well, that's because they're not displayed arbitrarily. Anything with a search function (eg. google search, bing, windows search, google maps search etc) will serve advertised results because Google/Microsoft can gather data and serve you ads (aka revenue) at the same time. If they slap ads in say, their weather or reminder app, people are just going to get annoyed and look for third party apps to replace it. Even Samsung got backlash after putting ads in their weather and health apps, and had to remove them because people are not staring at a weather app all day and likely was more expensive to maintain than they were making from it.

  • @mapl3mage

    @mapl3mage

    Жыл бұрын

    @potsmoker54 my mom installed an app that lets you track how many steps you have walked throughout the day. this app pushed ads into the homescreen, so every time you check the home, you see a large ad, taking 80-90% of the homescreen space. android stock apps don't give ads - not anymore anyway, but if you install an app, that app can give you ads. (also yes, i had to remove the app to get rid of the constant advertisement)

  • @Atul_Thakur97

    @Atul_Thakur97

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mapl3mage apple third party apps also gives adv. not full screen screen but there adv

  • @mapl3mage

    @mapl3mage

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Atul_Thakur97 you did not understand my comment. of course, within an app you may see advertisements. what i said is, apps from the Apple app store can't add advertisements to the homescreen on a (unjailbroken) iphone, like android apps do on the android phones.

  • @mapl3mage

    @mapl3mage

    Жыл бұрын

    @potsmoker54 well, where do you think most people get their apps on their android? i'm not saying that every android app will put ads on the home screen, only that some will, and that in itself is problematic. Google could put restrictions so that app developers can't shove ads into the homescreen, but it's Google.

  • @methanesulfonic
    @methanesulfonic Жыл бұрын

    Pay premium product, get premium ads:)

  • @VladRo100
    @VladRo100 Жыл бұрын

    I think ur videos are really underrated

  • @vihangparikh8584
    @vihangparikh8584 Жыл бұрын

    From my experience, Apple hasn't pushed an ad in my daily use so far. Initially, I used to see a lot of ad which felt too personal and invading privacy in gmail/youtube/facebook etc.before the last year Privacy update. I will wait for Apple to push its limits before it becomes annoying which I hope would not happen.

  • @abhishekdev258
    @abhishekdev258 Жыл бұрын

    Wow..this is Quality

  • @das5842
    @das5842 Жыл бұрын

    It will be interesting to see how Apple manages to maintain privacy of its users while at the same time turning ads into a revenue stream, and I wonder how they will achieve it without compromising on its users privacy.

  • @nikkehtine

    @nikkehtine

    Жыл бұрын

    It's easy - Apple doesn't care about privacy. They still track users, only less so than Google, because they only track users of their own devices as opposed to basically everyone on the internet. This very little "privacy protection" they do is blown out of proportion in their marketing materials.

  • @idcrafter-cgi
    @idcrafter-cgi Жыл бұрын

    googles claim about not collecting health data but Google play services has permissions for body sensors which you can't turn off withouth De-Googling the phone and put something like MicroG onto it

  • @xx_peace_xx5300
    @xx_peace_xx5300 Жыл бұрын

    I really missed the story behind series

  • @Kroke_Monster
    @Kroke_Monster Жыл бұрын

    for the sake of my existence, I love Nebula especially your exclusive show, did not see that one coming from a tech channel its amazing. But please tell me a playlist feature is coming sooner or later or a queue feature, so I can use it like KZread and queue a bunch of videos im interested in, sit back and watch instead of having to have 11 tabs open and open and start each bloody video. I mean as least the watch later lets me group them now thankfully but thats half the journey, a watched feature would be neat as well..... please reassure me these things are coming being subbed to Nebula for a year now and I don't use it since its far too inconvenient but would over KZread just for these small quality of life changes.

  • @_Digitalguy

    @_Digitalguy

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't particularly like playlists but I would love comments on nebula, I have said it for years

  • @TechAltar

    @TechAltar

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey! I think a watch later list is on our agenda, but I don't know when it will be coming yet

  • @michaelnurse9089
    @michaelnurse9089 Жыл бұрын

    So this video is an ad for the actual video on Nebula.

  • @moulikshrivastava8157
    @moulikshrivastava8157 Жыл бұрын

    6:53 is basically the of creating CDOs/MBSes as done in 2008, but with privacy rather than mortgages

  • @bruxi78230

    @bruxi78230

    Жыл бұрын

    Not even close. The problem with CDOs were banks had a massive amount of leverage like 35 to 1 in a very illiquid CDO market. Once poorly qualified buyers stopped paying their mortgages, the banks failed and the government was forced to bail them out. Apple is the least levered company in the world with massive positive cash flows. No bail out will ever be needed.

  • @X11CHASE

    @X11CHASE

    Жыл бұрын

    Terrible analogy. Good try though (not really).

  • @contournut5726
    @contournut5726 Жыл бұрын

    After the list of all the stuff they know for targeting ads ... I look forward to ads for the last thing I bought online because, of course, if I just bought a thing I want to buy it over and over and over no matter what kind of thing it is! Targeted ads!

  • @delakoni
    @delakoni Жыл бұрын

    been getting so many more ads now on free games and apps, its mostly adversing other games or apps from the app store. As soon as i start getting these ads frequently i delete the app. Happy to just buy an app but too many apps are all going subscriptions and i hate it !!!

  • @vctgeek
    @vctgeek Жыл бұрын

    0:17 I thought there was a crashed button on my Mac 🤣🤣

  • @llpolluxll
    @llpolluxll Жыл бұрын

    If I'm paying for a product, I better not see a single ad.

  • @aarononeal9830
    @aarononeal9830 Жыл бұрын

    Please talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees

  • @lemster101
    @lemster101 Жыл бұрын

    I always feel that Google and Facebook are at least open about the fact that they advertise, but Apple does exactly the same thing, but they're just sneaky about it. The fact that they are so sneaky about all of it actually makes me trust them less than Google.

  • @reamsel

    @reamsel

    Жыл бұрын

    at least google gives us something usefull back. example: live traffic data on google maps and you can see how bussy a place is before you leave. apple gives us just ads.

  • @mapl3mage
    @mapl3mage Жыл бұрын

    one problem with android is that, as soon as you install an app from google play, the app can start sending ads into the home screen, so that every time to check your phone, there is a large ad on the android home screen - even if you are on the latest android OS. I'm speaking from experience. I had to remove an app that pushed ads into the homescreen on a Galaxy s20 phone, which is annoying and wastes battery life. Something like this is unheard of on a (non-jailbroken) iPhone. If you install an app from the Apple app store, the app is limited by what it can do, and it certainly can't start shoving ads down your throat in the home screen.

  • @uncertaintyunravelled8273
    @uncertaintyunravelled8273 Жыл бұрын

    As an investor in Apple this is amazing. As a user - it's clear I should be ridiculously skeptical of anything.

  • @Jose04537
    @Jose04537 Жыл бұрын

    And there it goes "privacy first" branding. First you criticize, then you mock and then you do the exactly the thing (like Google).

  • @alicethegrinsecatz6011
    @alicethegrinsecatz60119 ай бұрын

    5:52 Did you use the colour scheme of the European party Volt by purpose or by coincidence?

  • @syedmuhammadsameer8299
    @syedmuhammadsameer82996 ай бұрын

    Now I understand the reason for iMessage being locked up so much. It's not just about a walled garden, instead it's about data too

  • @koraptd6085
    @koraptd6085 Жыл бұрын

    8:35 Windows Pop-up sound notif?

  • @johnsuckher3037
    @johnsuckher3037 Жыл бұрын

    what's the tldr of why facebook and google says those apple changes are ok long term?

  • @lamchunting856
    @lamchunting856 Жыл бұрын

    It still can't show me the games I want to play

  • @mbra8228
    @mbra8228 Жыл бұрын

    Very well presented , thx!

  • @nikhileshmaiya8900
    @nikhileshmaiya8900 Жыл бұрын

    Xiaomi was ahead of the curve 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @KarmoAbram
    @KarmoAbram Жыл бұрын

    In Estonia, ads from apple are not supported, so no ads from apple for me. :D

  • @siamak81
    @siamak81 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think they would use os level data like app installs, ambient location etc. for Ad personalization. That would result in huge anti-trust lawsuits.

  • @realsushrey

    @realsushrey

    Жыл бұрын

    Google uses app installs and location data. However, in recent years, Google's location data access seems to be gated behind a permissions popup. Google has faced no anti-trust so far.

  • @HShango
    @HShango Жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness for adblockers, mod apks and sponsor block extensions & apps

  • @BMohantyone
    @BMohantyone Жыл бұрын

    I think Google will still win on Ad business and that is by scale. And I think Apple's ad strategy will face backlash.

  • @MeowtronStar
    @MeowtronStar Жыл бұрын

    For Nebula to succeed, they first need to pay attention to regional pricing. KZread charges me less than a dollar each month for KZread premium. No one from a low income country like India will pay more than that for a relatively unknown KZread alternative

  • @realsushrey

    @realsushrey

    Жыл бұрын

    Low income with a weak currency. 22 Indian rupees is worth a US dollar by pay power parity, but exchanges for 75, feelsbadman. I know it is possibly done intentionally because of the currency devaluation arms race between central banks, but still.

  • @marloelefant7500
    @marloelefant7500 Жыл бұрын

    "Apple - the self-titled champion of user choice" Really? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mattBLACKpunk

    @mattBLACKpunk

    Жыл бұрын

    Dw , they're also self titled champions of the environment and data privacy

  • @marloelefant7500

    @marloelefant7500

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattBLACKpunk Please stop, otherwise I'll die of laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mattBLACKpunk

    @mattBLACKpunk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marloelefant7500 wouldn't want that, can't make money off a corpse

  • @protocetid

    @protocetid

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@mattBLACKpunk If it weren't against the law and the basic morality that most of us normal people possess, businessmen would definitely find a way to monetize corpses. There is no low they won't stoop to.

  • @pcislocked
    @pcislocked Жыл бұрын

    end screen

  • @kingmuze8219
    @kingmuze8219 Жыл бұрын

    I was hoping this video would be about Apple redesigning ads to be less intrusive 😭 ughh like I don’t mind ads in general, I just hate the ads that aren’t relevant, looks trashy, poorly designed, or are xxx rated. Then there’s so many ads scattered over a website that it breaks the websites design and user experience.

  • @hoochill
    @hoochill Жыл бұрын

    they will rename ads to suggestions

  • @lopypop
    @lopypop Жыл бұрын

    Nebula is great, but they don't give you an option to opt out of cookies. Can you help give us this option?

  • @vornamenachname9331
    @vornamenachname9331 Жыл бұрын

    ironically i got an Apple Ad before this video started 🤭

  • @bpcgos
    @bpcgos Жыл бұрын

    So much for 'privacy concern' company ...eh... A lot of outlet already fall into that trap, but thanks to techaltar for opening this up...

  • @pkwsbaidoo
    @pkwsbaidoo Жыл бұрын

    You pay 1000 dollars to get ads so that you pay the same company more money everyday 😂😂😂

  • @safaaatheer5662
    @safaaatheer5662 Жыл бұрын

    Ah, the beauty of the modern world. A video criticizes ads run by some tech company only to show another ad at the end of the same video!

  • @rudyka04
    @rudyka04 Жыл бұрын

    The way he says KZread is so Hungarian “youtyube “ 😁😅

  • @thelakeman2538
    @thelakeman2538 Жыл бұрын

    6:45 isn't that literally google's FLoC/Topics api.

  • @masterx1588
    @masterx1588 Жыл бұрын

    Its just choosing between the lesser evil always

  • @tonivoul1971
    @tonivoul1971 Жыл бұрын

    I am happy that apple will do something that will make their fans mad

  • @idcrafter-cgi
    @idcrafter-cgi Жыл бұрын

    only stock oem android not aosp android has this because of the GAPPS and Google services

  • @glitchysoup6322
    @glitchysoup6322 Жыл бұрын

    Ads are pure cancer

  • @glitchysoup6322

    @glitchysoup6322

    Жыл бұрын

    Scam

  • @cjxgraphics
    @cjxgraphics Жыл бұрын

    And to think I switched from Samsung to Apple in large part, because of Samsung's ridiculous amount of ads. Top third of your screen, ad. Mixed in with your music, actual music downloaded to your phone, not streamed, ads. New notification? Nope. Ad. Open one of Samsung's official apps, full page, pop up ad. Crap. (And yes, I know this was a regional thing. Some areas did not see ads at all, but I did, and they were everywhere.)

  • @qwerty6789x
    @qwerty6789x Жыл бұрын

    at this point i want Nokia's basic phone to succeed. they still have it today

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