How an Atomic Clock Really Works, Round 2: Zeeman Alignment

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We adjust our atomic clocks with the Zeeman effect, and dive even deeper into the quantum world. It's complicated.
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  • @ReneKnuvers74rk
    @ReneKnuvers74rk Жыл бұрын

    This really shows the marvel of HP being able to convert physics experiments to a useful product that can be calibrated with standard equipment and by people without a Nobel prize in their pockets. Your explanation is super clear. You were able to explain enough of the details so us noobs can understand what is going on.

  • @hisham1269

    @hisham1269

    Жыл бұрын

    standard equipment ...

  • @markmaker2488
    @markmaker2488 Жыл бұрын

    I never thought that adjusting a clock could be so interesting!

  • @twotone3070

    @twotone3070

    Жыл бұрын

    Hands down the most interesting I've ever en count ered.

  • @WoodsyDotOrg
    @WoodsyDotOrg Жыл бұрын

    Now to put one on the roof and one in the basement.

  • @tristshapez

    @tristshapez

    Жыл бұрын

    Would the relative gravitational force at that scale be significant enough to affect the precision of these clocks?

  • @BarryKort

    @BarryKort

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tristshapez Yes, if you waited long enough to observe the cumulative drift in timekeeping. The challenge here is to keep both units running continuously, on frequency, without any hiccups, so that the elevated unit can systematically gain a small integer number of total cycles over the duration of the exercise. For reference, the article cited below says that a clock elevated one kilometer above its mate will gain 31 microseconds in ten years. Let's scale that down to 100 meters and one year. Then the elevated clock will gain 0.31 microseconds or 310 nanoseconds. (Note that the speed of light is about one foot per nanosecond. Oddly enough, if you were on the ground using binoculars to peer at the clock 100 meters above you, it would take 333 nanoseconds to observe the display so that, on the one-year anniversary, the observer on the ground would declare the two clocks reported the same time from his vantage point.) www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/an-atomic-clock-is-used-to-measure-not-time-but-the-height-of-mountains/2018/02/23/5a845166-11c3-11e8-9570-29c9830535e5_story.html

  • @alexscarbro796

    @alexscarbro796

    Жыл бұрын

    There was an experiment done with optical atomic clocks that could detect the lab bench being jacked up a few inches!

  • @stooartbabay

    @stooartbabay

    Жыл бұрын

    Funny! :)

  • @joeaugustine9629

    @joeaugustine9629

    Жыл бұрын

    You know that’s coming lol

  • @brianbeasley7270
    @brianbeasley7270 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent discussion! I was happy to see the 5334B Frequency counter in the video as I was the Service Engineer for that product and designed the self test and service strategy for it.

  • @CuriousMarc

    @CuriousMarc

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I love that counter, it’s my primary instrument below 1.5 GHz. I have the high stability oven oscillator in it and calibrate it once a year with the Cesium. It stays pretty much on target.

  • @brianbeasley7270

    @brianbeasley7270

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CuriousMarc Hopefully the service manual for that counter is dramatically simpler than the 5061. I went to great pains to have the unit troubleshoot itself from known good kernal out to the edge circuits. Most of the testing (assuming the microprocessor is alive and the power supplies work) is just hooking it's outputs up to it's inputs and running it through it's various switching paths. It doesn't require a lot of external test equipment to test and calibrate it. This also greatly simplified the amount of production test equipment needed on the manufacturing line to test it out. I got a nice internal award for that. This was way back in 1980 IIRC so I'm glad you are getting good use out of it.

  • @TrimeshSZ

    @TrimeshSZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianbeasley7270 Just out of interest, do you know any of the people that worked on the HP53131/2A? I've always wondered what the story behind the genuinely awful standard oscillator in those counters was - I suspect it has to be accountant related, since I can't see the engineers being exactly happy with shipping a product with a borderline unusable internal timebase.

  • @brianbeasley7270

    @brianbeasley7270

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TrimeshSZ Sorry, I didn't know any of them. That was after I left the division. It was most likely a low cost oscillator for the time to lower the price. Sorry it wasn't up to standards!

  • @TrimeshSZ

    @TrimeshSZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianbeasley7270 Well, it just meant you had to use an external ref or get the (excellent) high or ultra-high stability options - it was just that a 5 part in 10^-6 oscillator was not what I expected to find in a 10/12 digit/s HP counter!

  • @mikewifak
    @mikewifak Жыл бұрын

    I knew several of the words used in this video.

  • @MichaelEhling
    @MichaelEhling Жыл бұрын

    18:00 Actually, that was very clear. Best ever. I found myself wishing you had chosen *not* to skip some of the details e.g. how the C-field disallows certain transitions. Very, very satisfying learning. Thanks.

  • @iNerdier

    @iNerdier

    Жыл бұрын

    I would be very up for a follow up/bonus video about this too yes.

  • @kippie80

    @kippie80

    Жыл бұрын

    I had dropped the relativity course in university due to getting lost and it being an optional course of luxury. I appreciate the review and explanation!

  • @joswhite7923

    @joswhite7923

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree. Excellent explanation.

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe the other transitions destructively interfere under the influence of the C-field’s frequency :)

  • @MichaelEhling

    @MichaelEhling

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaitlyn__L Ahh, thank you. Make sense.

  • @strangeluck
    @strangeluck Жыл бұрын

    I, for one, get excited when the elevator music starts. Great stuff! I look forward to seeing how you use your clocks.

  • @alandoak5146
    @alandoak5146 Жыл бұрын

    My electrical engineering internship was in the Time and Frequency Division at NIST, Phase Noise Measurement group, '93-97, just down the hall from the NIST-7 cesium beam standard. 25 years later, after working in RF communication systems and test equipment, I recently started working at ColdQuanta on quantum computers based on laser cooled neutral Cesium atoms. Your explanation of Zeeman splitting, and demonstration of the tuning, really helped my understanding of clocks and MOTs. I know many of these concepts as absorbed facts I can regurgitate, without much intuition. It also gave some more insight into the march from parts in 1e14, to 5e-15 of NIST-7, to 1or2e-16 of NIST-F2. And, it's one thing to see an Allen Deviation chart of an atomic clock (or a wandering OCXO tone on a SPA), but watching atomic clock drift on an o-scope made it come alive. And fun fact, the gravitational redshift at Earth’s surface corresponds to a fractional frequency gradient of -9.8(2.3)×10-20/mm (at that particular lab in Boulder). With Strontium optical lattice clocks at the 1e-21 level, geopotential uncertainty is the dominate error term. It's fascinating to see all the metrology/sensing that atomic clocks play a huge role: magnetic fields, gravity, inertial navigation, Josephson voltage standards, atomic physics, astronomy, electric fields, mass..... arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2109/2109.12238.pdf

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience Жыл бұрын

    I love those clocks! Great video, and I'm really interested to see your time dialation experiment.

  • @CuriousMarc

    @CuriousMarc

    Жыл бұрын

    Ben, wanna do some Zeeman experiments? I just scored two large mid-century spectrometers. Should be able to resolve the lines (ahem, once restored).

  • @KeritechElectronics

    @KeritechElectronics

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CuriousMarc I'm definitely waiting for that!

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CuriousMarc Mid 17th century? A slightly famous physicist did some ground breaking spectroscopy work that century.

  • @CuriousMarc

    @CuriousMarc

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@johndododoe1411 No, nice instruments from the 1960’s. But good optics don’t get obsolete nearly as fast as electronics. Still very good instruments today.

  • @denisohbrien
    @denisohbrien Жыл бұрын

    When I studied engineering the quality of the lecturer absolutely steered my appreciation and interest in a particular subject, you have that gift, I dont know what you do professionally but if you dont lecture or teach its a waste.

  • @brucenadams1
    @brucenadams1 Жыл бұрын

    I opened this channel and looked at the picture. OMG this guy found a pair of HP Cesium clocks. When I was working with HP, I sold two of them. Both went to Lockheed. After delivery I never saw them again. In those days they were accurate to within one second in 200,000 years. Better accuracy now.

  • @AttemptingAstro
    @AttemptingAstro Жыл бұрын

    Here I am learning about NMR spectroscopy in ochem 2, deciding to take a break with an exciting new CuriousMarc video, and getting most of the lecture theory explained back to me (plus a lot more.) No complaints though. Fascinating video. Thank you all for what you do and for taking the time to document it

  • @craigs5212

    @craigs5212

    Жыл бұрын

    Back in the early 60's NMR was the latest thing never realized how that experimental lab instrument would change chemistry. I had a medical MRI a few years back and got curious how they worked, most fascinating.

  • @TheDoctorhuw
    @TheDoctorhuw Жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic explanation, you make a wonderful teacher Marc, Thank you.

  • @JeffCowan
    @JeffCowan Жыл бұрын

    Waking up and finding 37 minutes of Marc discussing atomic clocks and Zeeman alignment is the best way to start the day.

  • @testing2517

    @testing2517

    Жыл бұрын

    My exact thought this morning as well.

  • @wa4aos
    @wa4aos Жыл бұрын

    Well, you just blew the old saying: A guy with one watch can tell you the time. A guy with two watches is never quite sure.. BRAVO !!

  • @Wizardess

    @Wizardess

    Жыл бұрын

    At this level even having 3 clocks or (horrors) any odd number of clocks you're still not sure what time it is. You just maybe, statistically, get a better guess. {^_-}

  • @tekvax01
    @tekvax01 Жыл бұрын

    The only thing better than this episode is the fact that I understood exactly what you were doing and explaining! I wish I had some of that test gear, and one of those beautiful clocks! Thank you Marc and Team for another amazing experience! I can't wait for the time dilation clock check!

  • @hinz1
    @hinz1 Жыл бұрын

    The HP 5518A heterodyne laser Interferometer also uses Zeeman effect to split HeNe laser light into 2 opposite polarized beams, with a few MHz difference in frequency, so that the receiver can tell, if the measurement mirror is moving towards or away from receiver. Another instrument with lots of HP magic inside, can measure absolute distances in nm range or flatness of surface plate very accurately.

  • @markkrutzmann6862

    @markkrutzmann6862

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, I definitely have to look that one up! HP engineering sure was great.

  • @lunam7249

    @lunam7249

    Жыл бұрын

    magic is the proper word...or perhaps reverse alien enginering....

  • @juliankandlhofer7553
    @juliankandlhofer7553 Жыл бұрын

    me: forgets about daylight savings time and doesn't even notice for a day or two marc: my cesium clock is 0.0000000001Hz out of spec and we need to calibrate it.

  • @PaulaXism

    @PaulaXism

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that reminder. I thought I was just having strange experiences in the kitchen over the weekend.. but my clock in there needed changing

  • @ifitsrusteditsmine
    @ifitsrusteditsmine Жыл бұрын

    Here I am on the last steps of restoring and adjusting a french turn of the century mantel clock to + - 10 minutes PER DAY and super happy with that, and these guys adjusting to the billionth decimal a cesium clock.

  • @cncshrops

    @cncshrops

    Жыл бұрын

    Turn of 19th century I take it!

  • @georgegonzalez2476

    @georgegonzalez2476

    Жыл бұрын

    I should adjust my best crystal clock, in a HP 5360A frequency counter. The manual suggests adjusting it against WWV. Only about 5 powers of ten worse then this cesium clock.

  • @hoofie2002
    @hoofie2002 Жыл бұрын

    That was an excellent and very good explanation of the C-field and why it is required. Thank you for another outstanding video. I've never understood why this channel sits under 150k subscribers, it's content and quality is outstanding every time.

  • @stargazer7644

    @stargazer7644

    Жыл бұрын

    It is because you have to be of a certain level to understand what's going on. The chin droolers that make up 90% of youtube can't keep up.

  • @ronjohnson9690

    @ronjohnson9690

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stargazer7644 Yes, and I still find it interesting in spite of drooling. Wish others could dream as I do, but you know....

  • @624Dudley
    @624Dudley Жыл бұрын

    I’ll stay tuned (hope I don’t drift too much!) 👍

  • @boris3320
    @boris3320 Жыл бұрын

    This atomic clock is a genuine condensate of Nobel prizes.

  • @mpbgp
    @mpbgp Жыл бұрын

    Every time a video is posted, I am amazed at what is presented. I would have bet money that 2 HP atomic clocks were not operable at this late date. Those tubes are not replaceable anymore.

  • @tristshapez
    @tristshapez Жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to see what experiments you're able to perform with two highly calibrated cesium clocks.

  • @BarryKort

    @BarryKort

    Жыл бұрын

    The main thing to demonstrate is that timekeeping is affected by gravity. If one of the clocks is elevated above the other by a few meters, it should be able to observe that it gradually gains time on the one positioned below it. Even with just one working cesium clock, the GPS reference time can play the role of the baseline clock.

  • @VainoOskariAstala81

    @VainoOskariAstala81

    Жыл бұрын

    Now they just need couple of business jets to fly around the world.

  • @larryscott3982

    @larryscott3982

    Жыл бұрын

    Or just mountain top to Death Valley gravity field.

  • @ReneSchickbauer

    @ReneSchickbauer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VainoOskariAstala81 Scott Manley is currently getting his pilot license. And he is living in the area.

  • @phuzz00

    @phuzz00

    Жыл бұрын

    Keeping one clock at sea level, and the other up a mountain, should produce a measurable difference. Of course, that means finding a way to make one of the clocks portable, but I think HP was thinking of that when they built these things.

  • @bayareapianist
    @bayareapianist Жыл бұрын

    I remember when I was a kid in 70s, I saw a TV science program which was about relativity, time and speed of light. They used two atomic clocks like those here. They put one in a NASA airplane and another one on the ground. After the airplane did a couple spins the atomic clocks showed some difference about a few nanoseconds. Then the funny guy placed his twin brother in an spaceship which traveled at the speed of light. After a couple minutes, he came back to Earth and he found his brother pretty old. They said the story wasn't a science fiction at all and it was very amazing for me. Perhaps the best science program I ever saw on TV in those years.

  • @SamuelLiJ
    @SamuelLiJ8 ай бұрын

    Atomic physicist here - great explanation overall! Here's some additional information about selection rules: The 'selection rules' you mentioned are determined by the polarization of the light - the applied magnetic field matters, but only indirectly. If you (arbitrarily) choose any fixed direction in space, you can define your m_F levels to have fixed total angular momentum projection along that direction. If the polarization of the interrogation laser is aligned with this direction, then we call it 'pi-polarized' and it can only drive transitions that do not change m_F. Note that the definition of the m_F levels depends on your choice of quantization axis. The clock would still work perfectly in exactly zero B. At finite residual B, however, population will begin to be transferred between different m_F levels, unless the B-field is perfectly aligned along your preferred axis. The role of the C-field is to reduce the effect that stray fields have on the angle of the total B-field with respect to this axis. (Simple picture: moving the end of a meterstick by 1 cm changes its orientation much less than moving the end of a 30cm ruler by 1 cm.) An alternate view (equivalent in any nonzero B field) is to choose the direction of the B-field as your quantization axis. Then it's the impurity of the laser polarization projection (along the B-field axis) that causes the unwanted transitions to occur. This has the advantage of ensuring that the corresponding m_F levels are so-called 'energy eigenstates' of the full Hamiltonian, including the Zeeman interaction - but at the expense of more complex selection rules. But either way you do the computation, you get the same result - the component of the B field perpendicular to the light polarization must be zero, or you will get unwanted frequency components.

  • @_2N2222
    @_2N2222 Жыл бұрын

    I learned quite a lot. One of the most entertaining classes I ever attended.

  • @DrFrank-xj9bc
    @DrFrank-xj9bc Жыл бұрын

    That's a very nice demonstration and explanation of the Zeeman effect and the magnetic alignment of the HP5061. I've never seen that before in such a detail. Anyhow, I suggest to do frequency comparisons (Cs vs Cs or vs GPS) by time-nuts methods. That is a phase comparison method by means of a high resolution T.I. counter, like your HP5334A. By using John Miles free TimeLab program, which might directly support your counter over GPIB, you can make comfortable stability (Allan Deviation) and uncertainty measurements down into the 10^-13 region, over many hours. That is required to overcome short / medium termed jitter especially of the GPS reference. Easy to accomplish, and maybe making a nice next video.

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself Жыл бұрын

    @1:00 as Alec from Technology Connections would say, "through the magic of buying two of them!"

  • @GrumpyTim
    @GrumpyTim Жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic video, Marc and the guys on top form. I love the amount of work that went into explaining the somewhat complicated (understatement of the year) quantum physics - Marc, you're a hero.

  • @JRubik726
    @JRubik7266 ай бұрын

    These videos are pretty awesome. Love the theoretical description next to the hands on demonstration.

  • @stephenbell9257
    @stephenbell9257 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if a vector voltmeter such as the HP 8508A or 8405A might not be a better instrument for detecting minute phase drifts between clock signals. They offer phase resolution down to 0.1deg, which would be difficult to resolve with the oscilloscope. They might also be less susceptible to drift or jitter in the triggering point as compared to an oscilloscope.

  • @martinhow121
    @martinhow121 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant explanation as ever. Took me right back to Electronic Theory of Matter lectures 48 years ago.

  • @harmlesscreationsofthegree1248
    @harmlesscreationsofthegree1248 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome explanation! I feel smarter for watching, and that often happens when I watch your vids

  • @Hans-gb4mv
    @Hans-gb4mv Жыл бұрын

    I didn't understand a thing, and I still enjoyed it ;)

  • @littlejason99
    @littlejason99 Жыл бұрын

    Marc, you guys should really get in touch with Tom Van Baak for your journey with cesium clocks and precision time keeping. His collection is probably second only to NIST itself.

  • @MarcoTedaldi
    @MarcoTedaldi Жыл бұрын

    On the day of the transition from DST to normal time. What perfect timing! 😁

  • @stargazer7644

    @stargazer7644

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate to tell you, but you're a week early.

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation. I was actually able to follow you, and I'm not the brightest bulb in the electromagnetic spectrum.

  • @luke144
    @luke144 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool!!! Avoid brain twisting explanation you ask, NEVER! Thank you so much for sharing all this with us! I grew up around engineers, listening to your explanations give me a warm feeling of being home again. Fascinating stuff. By far my favorite episode on this channel. What could be more mysterious then time? Liquid gold!

  • @luke144

    @luke144

    Жыл бұрын

    As a stained glass artist I highly approve of that window!!

  • @michaelhaardt5988
    @michaelhaardt5988 Жыл бұрын

    Should you ever wonder again whether to include 18 minutes of theory, by all means, do include it. This was one of your best episodes ever.

  • @y2kkmac
    @y2kkmac Жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for the seemingly inevitable episode about the Ramsey effect!

  • @rallymax2
    @rallymax2 Жыл бұрын

    I wish you had been my quantum mechanics teacher during my physics degree. You’re speaking directly to me when you express the theory intertwined with the experimentation and engineering utilization of the phenomenon. What an 18min!

  • @amarissimus29
    @amarissimus29 Жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how many 'explanations' for the clock are 'it measures hyperfine transitions of cesium.' And are as long if not longer than this video. It's like telling you how a car works: 'it makes gasoline explode.' Excellent work. You've done a great job especially on elements that are hard to grasp in text. I don't think people really appreciate the scale of these measurements. The leap from theory to a practical machine is almost unreal.

  • @rowanjones3476
    @rowanjones3476 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. I wish you’d been a lecturer whilst I was at university. You’re a natural! Very clear, and your enthusiasm for the topic is infectious. This is a wonderful example of engineering as the application of science to a problem. Kudos to the HP engineers.

  • @Scrizati
    @Scrizati Жыл бұрын

    I think I understood more about this topic than the rest of my education in this one video. Very well done on the explanation and the restoration

  • @gsuberland
    @gsuberland Жыл бұрын

    I watched this video shortly after waking up and I still managed to follow your explanation of the hyperfine energy levels and Zeeman lines. Excellent job at communicating it clearly! You've now inspired me to dig into the literature on magnetic quantum numbers and selection rules, since that's a level of detail that I've only ever heard of in passing before. It's good to have a practical application to tie the knowledge back to.

  • @kwgm8578
    @kwgm8578 Жыл бұрын

    If Dr. Barney M. Oliver were still around, he would love to see your workshop. So would I, if I still lived in the Bay Area! Barney would be able to tell you exactly what to do to calibrate the clock, and why -- even if he had nothing to do with the clock product. He had the kind of curious mind that never let anything go by without understanding it, in a way, similar to you, Marc! Barney Oliver was a fascinating man, and a kind mentor to this young engineer, once upon a time, many years ago.

  • @CuriousMarc

    @CuriousMarc

    Жыл бұрын

    Barney Oliver was an amazing genius!

  • @DanielGBenesScienceShows
    @DanielGBenesScienceShows Жыл бұрын

    This video gave me a series of those headaches with pictures. You know, “an education!” That was awesome to see!

  • @skfalpink123
    @skfalpink123 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Segal's Law ( "a man with a watch knows the time. A man with two does not" ) still applies when both the timepieces are Atomic?

  • @craigs5212

    @craigs5212

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha, that is why I got my second Rb oscillator. I could see a difference between my first Rb and the GPS disciplined oscillator but I didn't know which. With two Rb oscillators I could see the GPS was the issue. It needed a better antenna, small dropout on the GPS would slightly skew the PLL slightly.

  • @nmccw3245

    @nmccw3245

    Жыл бұрын

    Only until your accuracy reaches 5.39×10−44 s. 😜👍🏻

  • @ydonl

    @ydonl

    Жыл бұрын

    "... A man with two and an HP oscilloscope does not".

  • @classicaudioadventures
    @classicaudioadventures Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to you lecture about this kind of stuff all day!

  • @fredinit
    @fredinit Жыл бұрын

    When Marc starts the elevator music, time to grab the popcorn and pay attention! IMHO, the best part of the videos. Now to see what @MarcoReps has cooked up.

  • @brauchmernet

    @brauchmernet

    Жыл бұрын

    23bit Encoder 😮

  • @CuriousMarc

    @CuriousMarc

    Жыл бұрын

    Marco Reps rocks!

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын

    It's CuriousMarc lecturing on physical chemistry and quantum physics, and it's so cool! You laid out the spectral lines better than any professor at my university when I studied chemistry. Makes me wish I watched this video in 2007 or so. Zeeman's lab gear and experiments (and that stained glass too)? Definitely great and brilliant in its simplicity! Coming up with it was the hard part, doing actual experiments is straightforward, with no multi-million-yankee-bucks worth of equipment. Makes me wonder if there's still some science to be done that doesn't require very advanced and expensive technology. That HP scope is nice, but fades in comparison with Usagi's HP 150A :) So, any video on NMR, EPR or (unrelated, but close) mass spectrometry? That would be great. I was taught the theory of operation and how to interpret the spectra (and determine the structures), but never worked on a NMR or mass spectrometer myself. Nice watch too.

  • @ofdlttwo
    @ofdlttwo Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand anything you guys are talking about but love being subscribed watching your passion.

  • @lutzweb
    @lutzweb Жыл бұрын

    best physic video of my life u are great as hp designer of those clocks

  • @sshep86
    @sshep86 Жыл бұрын

    All I can tell from this video. Is that Hollywood really nailed the characterisation of a 21st century scientist.

  • @josephwilliamcosta
    @josephwilliamcosta Жыл бұрын

    excellent video MARC and TEAM!

  • @collincharvat1082
    @collincharvat1082 Жыл бұрын

    Please make a detailed no hold back video about this. This is just so captivating.

  • @CraftMine1000
    @CraftMine1000 Жыл бұрын

    As I'm watching this I realise that the c field is like the heater in a oven crystal clock, kinda, The magnetic shielding is like the insulation on a oven crystal clock as well, Block out/insulate as much as possible, and then provide your own standard/reference above what still leaks in (out in the case of oven clocks but still, I think this analogy is almost perfect)

  • @paulmicks7097
    @paulmicks70973 ай бұрын

    Thank you , this was excellent theoretics and lab work.

  • @fredflickinger643
    @fredflickinger643 Жыл бұрын

    Patience:) Good alignment and calibration!

  • @jaut-76
    @jaut-76 Жыл бұрын

    Just the kind of video I need at 7am after I’ve just woken up

  • @tristshapez

    @tristshapez

    Жыл бұрын

    Wake up juice!

  • @cyberpunkrocker

    @cyberpunkrocker

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jaut-76 Lol, me too, and even before the morning coffee!

  • @Eo_Tunun
    @Eo_Tunun Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating stuff! ^^) That is mind-blowing, having such equipment at hand in your basement!

  • @dougtaylor7724
    @dougtaylor7724 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating material and well explained. HP machine designers were in a class of their own. And most still operate as designed. I have several test machines from the 70’s and 80’s that still work as intended.

  • @boelwerkr
    @boelwerkr Жыл бұрын

    Remember to redo the procedure every time something changes in or around the lab. Like a truck parking in the driveway. 🙂

  • @ntsecrets
    @ntsecrets Жыл бұрын

    Wow, my grandfather co-invented the color spectrophotometer in the 1920s at MIT - I had no idea it was used to tell time too!

  • @dammonbutler6951
    @dammonbutler6951 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely amazing video as always Marc! You are so lucky to have access to not one but two of those clocks! I managed to get hold of an old rubidium reference module from an aircraft but haven't done anything with it to make it into a useful reference yet. Even when I do it'll be way less accurate than those big boys hehe

  • @craigs5212

    @craigs5212

    Жыл бұрын

    Not by much, just set it up as a PLL with a GPS as the long term reference and Bob's your uncle

  • @dammonbutler6951

    @dammonbutler6951

    Жыл бұрын

    @@craigs5212 I shall look into that 😁 at present I bypassed the fried power supply and verified the internal stuff was still working, but then put it on the shelf with various other projects I've not finished yet 🤣

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын

    I knew a lot of this from studying physics, but I still watched all of it because I found the explanation from an instrument/technician’s perspective to be an interesting change from the atom’s-perspective way I was taught it. All the same components of course, just a different reference frame.

  • @CaptainKirk01
    @CaptainKirk01 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing Sir! Thank You!

  • @projectartichoke
    @projectartichoke Жыл бұрын

    It would be super cool to see you repeat the Hafele and Keating time dilation experiment. Also expensive I would imagine! You need a pretty long flight to get results in the nanoseconds. It would be fascinating to try to predict the results of the experiment beforehand and see how it plays out in reality.

  • @user-pd5ot4zd4b
    @user-pd5ot4zd4b Жыл бұрын

    Wow! This was just fantastic, I finally feel like I understand what the SI unit for 1 second actually means. A concrete example with HP cukcoo clocks and everything :D

  • @gertebert
    @gertebert Жыл бұрын

    Ow wow, the original notes from professor Zeeman. Zeeman means Sailor by the way :) I'm Dutch, I can read those notes!

  • @SQ5DBF
    @SQ5DBF4 ай бұрын

    Excellent experiment.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA Жыл бұрын

    Now you have 2 clocks you are uncertain again. You now need to get another 3, so you have a cluster of 5, so that you can use the average to get the error from the outliers, and use that average to both get the right time, and also verify all 5 are operating correctly.

  • @BarryKort

    @BarryKort

    Жыл бұрын

    While they are able to block the earth's magnetic field and carefully degauss the enclosure, there is no way to shield the apparatus from the Earth's gravity. It is now well-demonstrated that atomic clocks tick at a faster rate when elevated, just as Einstein predicts in the Theory of General Relativity. Alas, there is no place in the solar system where the gravitational field strength is precisely zero (except perhaps somewhere close to the center of the sun).

  • @cncshrops

    @cncshrops

    Жыл бұрын

    Ebay?

  • @DEtchells
    @DEtchells Жыл бұрын

    Fantastically clear explanation of both the underlying physics and the calibration process. I feel like I actually understand how cesium clocks work now!It’s beautiful the way you can use very pedestrian lab equipment to calibrate an instrument to deliver time accuracy on the order of 10^-13. What an absolutely brilliant device! Next up: Cesium fountain clock? 😉 BTW: What’s the lifetime of the cesium tube? Does the cesium somehow recirculate, or does it eventually get used up and the tube needs to be replaced?

  • @MLX1401
    @MLX1401 Жыл бұрын

    This video gave me enough confidence to finally try adjusting the kitchen scale clock back to "normal" aka winter time

  • @varioustoxins
    @varioustoxins Жыл бұрын

    Also just wow so cool and nice explanations

  • @ivanscottw
    @ivanscottw Жыл бұрын

    I certainly didn't skip ahead ! I find it fascinating ! Getting some sort of glimpse of what is the fine structure (difference of energy levels dependin on spin) and the hyperfine structure (when applied inside a magnetic field) - and how this applies to define a constant for time (or rather the measurement of time within a reference frame) - and then how it this all applies to the real world.. and so how it really works and how it is calibrated and how it can be done.. (I didn"t understand 10% of it, but it's fascinating nonetheless)

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom Жыл бұрын

    That was very well explained, I was actually able to follow it !

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse Жыл бұрын

    Nice, I got it, well bits of it but more than when I started !...cheers.

  • @benjaminhanke79
    @benjaminhanke79 Жыл бұрын

    I hope the next episode involves rocket science.

  • @PaulaXism
    @PaulaXism Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. I was thinking about an experiment which would be possible in the basement without too much expense. How about verifying the speed of light in different mediums?

  • @user-hj5nr3wy5w
    @user-hj5nr3wy5w Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, awesome episode guys. I vote for more tests. 😊

  • @zosid6
    @zosid6 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video. I'm curious do you have to "calibrate" the clock every time you power them up ?

  • @SubTroppo

    @SubTroppo

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious too. Back when I worked on offshore seismic oil exploration surveys nothing was switched off in the "instrument room". Every time the long hydrophone cable was put back on its reel for whatever reason, some connections within the cable could/would be parted. Then the cable would be reeled back in to so that the fault could be found and repaired. Back and forth; in, out, shake it all about!

  • @craigs5212
    @craigs5212 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, thanks for the nice video. I have a couple of Symmetricom Rb oscillators I play with every now and then. To compare them I built a 10X frequency multiplier do the scope pattern at 100Mhz instead of 10Mhz, of course the noise increases but the error difference is much more pronounced. In the late 60's our USAF lab had a rack mounted instrument called a frequency error expander (could have been from HP) that did the same thing. Not sure how it worked pll, mixers, comb generator etc.

  • @electricboyo
    @electricboyo Жыл бұрын

    This video series really helps me appreciate 100 years of progress in the science of quantum physics. As a career EE it is also fascinating to learn how a thorough understanding of quantum physics led to the creation of a very precise frequency reference which could be manufactured in the 1960/1970’s era and (with calibration) still meet its specs many years later. I own a few vintage HP instruments myself but nothing in the “atomic clock” category. My collection includes a 412A DC VTVM and a 3456A 6.5 digit DVM which both function very well. I frequently use them. Neither required extensive restoration. I found my 412A many years ago in a junkyard/recycling center with its mains power cord and probe leads cut off. It was free for the taking. I picked it up mainly because it looked cool in a very retro way. I never expected it to be functional. But out of curiosity 2 years ago I decided to see if I could get it to work. I was rather surprised to find no faults or issues beyond needing to replace the missing cables and probes. All of its capacitors and vacuum tubes tested good. The optical chopper still worked. I love it’s 100 meg input resistance for DC voltage measurement. It also works very well for Ohms measurement. The 3456A was an eBay find which needed only the replacement of some electrolytic capacitors in its power supply. I also have an 8660C frequency generator which partially works but needs to have the bandpass filters in the 0-100 MHz plug-in rebuilt. Keep up the great videos please!

  • @inoid724
    @inoid724 Жыл бұрын

    whow superduper hammer thank you so much for your reserch and giving us this knowledge about the fundamentals of discovering the secrets of atoms

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz Жыл бұрын

    A co-worker related an anecdote about when he worked in a standards/calibration center of some kind. First of all, they were so accurate that measurements were noted with the operator in a specific position and even his arms positioned on the armrests exactly! Anyway, some lazy technician didn't want to lug a clock from another room on a different floor, and just ran a co-ax cable from it instead. The difference in altitude showed up easily, as compared with two clocks next to each other. This must have taken place in the 90's, so the equipment would be two decades newer in design. But I think that translates into easier to use, more onboard computer processing rather than raw analog operation; rather than tons more accuracy since this old one is already near the limits of what's possible with that design. So, I think you should be able to show the GR effects by having the two clocks placed a few tens of meters in elevation, with a long cable to connect them both to the 'scope. You just need a multi-story building, not a plane.

  • @marvintpandroid2213
    @marvintpandroid2213 Жыл бұрын

    That is going to need one hell of a watch strap 🤖

  • @daylechipps7124
    @daylechipps7124 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @alanbain1651
    @alanbain1651 Жыл бұрын

    When comparing the beam current after C-field adjustment hasn't the "beam I-meter" pot been adjusted to keep the maximum on scale when adjusting the amplitude of the audio oscillator, so couldn't that explain the beam current reduction post-adjustment? Not having a 5061 to hand I seem to remember that one just adjusts this so the beam current reads 20 in operation.

  • @MarcelHuguenin
    @MarcelHuguenin Жыл бұрын

    I hope the 'maybe' at the end was not a threat ;-). Thank you Professor Marc for this wonderful Monday morning lecture. Although all of the quantum stuff goes way above my hat I could grasp the overal gist of your explanation. I also never could have surmised two of my fellow countrymen (whose names I once found in a Dutch science museum) would be mentioned in your famous lecture. Wonderful video and looking forward to your 'dual Cesium clock experiment' :o)

  • @thrillscience
    @thrillscience Жыл бұрын

    Great video! And now I know how to really pronounce "Lissajous."

  • @animeshjain8932
    @animeshjain8932 Жыл бұрын

    I am terrified by just how casually the clock is kept on the table and handled I won't even dare to touch that thing with specialized equipment

  • @ToTheGAMES

    @ToTheGAMES

    Жыл бұрын

    And thats why you are not CuriousMarc. ;)

  • @mikegLXIVMM
    @mikegLXIVMM Жыл бұрын

    “A-ha! I thought it was one of the prime numbers of the Zeeman series. I haven’t changed!” - Flash Gordon

  • @SubTroppo
    @SubTroppo Жыл бұрын

    I wonder what the current equivalent is and how it is calibrated.

  • @hinz1
    @hinz1 Жыл бұрын

    BTW, is there access to the 9.1GHz from the caesium tube directly? Should be easier to see sub-ns differences there, with like a 2 channel sampling scope.

  • @lunam7249

    @lunam7249

    Жыл бұрын

    maybe you will see the 9.1 GHZ....but not down to the 9.1 xx xxx xxx Hz

  • @francisvaughan7460
    @francisvaughan7460 Жыл бұрын

    A crowd funded trip would seem to be imminent. I'd contribute. Perhaps a would tour with public talks as you go. Come past here and I'll buy you a beer.

  • @tomkatt2321
    @tomkatt2321 Жыл бұрын

    PS - now you have the perfect time reference for some nice old analog slave clocks on the wall ;-)

  • @cbmsysmobile
    @cbmsysmobile Жыл бұрын

    I'd love it if you went back to some more teletype stuff - I could understand that!

  • @linushyky476
    @linushyky476 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent toutes ma jeunesse 😉

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