Actually, House Velayeon is a VERY wealthy house. IIRC in Fire and Blood, it’s stated that Coryls 7 voyages brought him more wealth than the Lannisters had at one point.

@Madmij

2 күн бұрын

He definitely just stole all that stuff from rich foreigners though 😂

@alexanderdumas-

2 күн бұрын

His first trip doubled his houses worth, he eve n sailed to Hardholm, in the books Corlys is a beast

@Thareldis

2 күн бұрын

​@@MadmijI'm pretty sure, that he also built some profitable trade routes. The Ironborne in asoiaf aside, most people that were raiding also built vast trade routes.

@thomasburns6289

18 сағат бұрын

@@Madmij Nobody becomes wealthy ethically in Westeros lol

@ms.werkman7134

18 сағат бұрын

😂😂😂​ it always amazes me how people just display their racist sensibilities and are proud of it@@Madmij

Robert Baratheons grandmother was a Targaryen. Robert and Rhaegar were 2nd cousins. Both are descendents of Rhaenyra.

@tellwilson1080

2 күн бұрын

Came here to say this

@johnymey4034

2 күн бұрын

I was trying to pay attention , but I could not follow along whilst distracted by this twitchy af host looking like someone's blowing sand in his eyes non-stop...

@BoomerBaskins

2 күн бұрын

@@johnymey4034that’s really rude and ignorant. Good thing he doesn’t talk out of his eyes…not once did his voice tremble or stutter so I don’t understand why you had so much trouble following. Maybe you’re just dense and it has nothing to do with his tick/twitch.

@Magdalena8008s

2 күн бұрын

​@@johnymey4034dude, go outside and take a breath. Sheesh. Gross.

@originalloverman

2 күн бұрын

Rhaenyra and her Siblings as her son married Aegon’s Daughter Jeahaera.

9:50 Ormund Baratheon (Robert's grandfather) married Rhaelle Targaryen. I believe that was his main claim to Targaryen blood

Lan the clever was NOT around the time of aegon the conqueror.

@waltertheterrible6062

2 күн бұрын

Yeah I caught that too 😂 “game of thrones experts”

Lann the clever wasnt at the field of fire....it was Lorren Lannister. Lann lived during the age of heroes, long before the andals arrived at westeros

Lann The Clever didn’t cede his throne and Casterly Rock to Aegon the Conqueror. He was the one who founded house Lannister by tricking Casterly Rock away from the Casterly family. Difference of like dozens of centuries. Also, even more contrary to this lady’s point, King Loren Lannister, the King of the West at the time Aegon invaded, 100% fought against the Targaryen invaders. It was part of his army that straight up burned in the Field of Fire. He didn’t bend the knee til after he got his ass kicked. If you’re gonna give us everything we need to know, might wanna double check the facts…

@jasoncombs3232

2 күн бұрын

Hard to fact check when the show is vastly different from the books.

@Windrammer

2 күн бұрын

@@jasoncombs3232lol big screencrush fan????

@Thareldis

2 күн бұрын

​@@Windrammer doesn't have to be, when the show is changing details under the supervision of the Author, but the show didn't change those details, so that phrase is just a buch of nothing in this context.

@waltertheterrible6062

2 күн бұрын

Right? Hearing some of these “game of thrones experts” talk about this stuff and get it wrong is crazy 😂

@riktheyellowmonkey

Күн бұрын

@@Windrammer They don't have to be fan boys to recognise the difficulties with these videos. A little leeway goes a long way.

Lann the clever? On the field of fire?!? Some true experts here 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😂

@waltertheterrible6062

2 күн бұрын

Right? I could do a better job at talking about ASOIAF lore and I haven’t even READ THE BOOKS 😂 literally just from KZread videos but even I know that was completely wrong

Great vid, love the special guests

Love love loveeeee this kind of format of video, some other ones are way to long, this is a great history lesson style!

Where the hell are they getting enough sheep to feed dragons on Dragonstone?

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

That's a good question. I wondered the same thing. They're most likely being fed a lot of different livestock. Whatever is readily available at the time.

@traviswilcox3472

2 күн бұрын

@@DiabolikSilhouette Yea, I bet more than a few people end up getting eaten too. Ugh.

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

@@traviswilcox3472 😂 Yeah, I'm sure some people end up being dinner too sometimes.

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

@@TheEdgeRunners Yo, when a dragon orders Five Guys, ya best be showing up w/ literally 5 guys, not some puny human sized burgers! 🤣🍔🍟🐲🔥🐉

@Victor支犭句Prawira

2 күн бұрын

yeah crazy. they had to keep shipping in sheep.

My only complaint is Coryls sounds so much more bad ass and respected in the books than what’s portrayed in the show.

I would sleep perpendicular to the sloped sky cells, just saying.

Man I’m not gonna lie, I used to come to this channel specifically for things that I missed when watching these episodes. Yall used to be SO GOOD at avoiding spoilers. But this season it seems like every video yall say something like “keep an eye on this character” or “they will come into play”. I like to be surprised when I watch these shows and not know what’s coming or what to watch out for. But I also like to watch your in depth analysis about the details of the show. Now there are too many hints :(

Great Breakdown! Amazing work!

Very helpful, thank you

Not a big book reader but I enjoyed all the good info from this panel about where we are in the house of dragons so thanks 👏🏼

WOW very knowledgeable & amazing video

I love this show, and all of them tou do. It truly helps me understand these shows and movies even better.

Hats off to the two experts. Their explanations were easy to follow and informative.

Lan the Clever at the Field of Fire? Gotta love "experts" that don't know the material 👍

Lann the clever and the field of fire...what a scholar...😂😂

@waltertheterrible6062

2 күн бұрын

“Game of thrones expert” lol I think she was the diversity hire

Thank you for the explaining the lore!

This was a great explanation. This was a good one.

It's a bit past midnight and this video is uploaded by screencrush. Now I have to watch it before bed 😅

@spuddawg02

2 күн бұрын

What the heck country u live in?? It's 3pm here in the States

@gokublaclivesmatter2766

2 күн бұрын

Must be from ISRAEL😂​@@spuddawg02

@johnymey4034

2 күн бұрын

I was trying to pay attention , but I could not follow along whilst distracted by this twitchy af host looking like someone's blowing sand in his eyes non-stop...

@originalloverman

2 күн бұрын

@@spuddawg02you must be a kid that never traveled if you think the ENTIRE US is one time zone and as well if you think only people from the US watch the show.

@ReviewPatrao

2 күн бұрын

@@spuddawg02I'm from India.

In needs to be said, Screen Crush > anyone else on KZread that covers or “breaks things down” On point, worthwhile videos, and enough uploads to make sense but not too many that it seems like clickbait clout. Thank you Ryan, Doug and the gang.

@basantbc

2 күн бұрын

this and new rockstars are the one i watch on youtube..

@chinortega3

2 күн бұрын

Mostly Doug

@thomasleonardis711

2 күн бұрын

While I normally agree with you it’s clear they don’t actually watch or know anything about the GoT/HotD universe. A lot of this information is just plain incorrect and could have been cleared up with simple fact checking.

@KadenStaab

2 күн бұрын

@@thomasleonardis711 Well, to add to that, GRM just came out and said that the book and tv universes are separate so now nothing matters 😂

@thomasleonardis711

2 күн бұрын

@@KadenStaab well that’s been clear since they got rid of Jayne Poole on season 1 of GoT which much later lead to that whole horrendous selling Sansa to Ramsey plot line. But the show is still based on the books so the book lore can be followed in general just expect zingers here and there to keep things unexpected or different.

This show is a must watch after every episode, thanks for explaining things alot further

@alisterfolson

2 күн бұрын

Brings back the "water-cooler" talk

Fantastic vid. Super helpful. Thank you

How come it feels like you guys are the only channel that gets a screener lol. This is solely based on the speed of uploading your videos with in-depth analysis

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

Meh 🤷🏼‍♂️

When all 3 people are framed next to each other, it goes from lowest quality video and the person being further back, to the most high quality and the person being super close to the camera lol yall all need to frame like the lady in the middle.

Love this show. If I can add a couple suggestions that will improve the show: When the guests say they don't want to reveal spoilers about how sometimes it's the smaller armies who win, the Greyjoys are currently undecided but they may change that soon, etc... those are actually spoilers even if you don't say it explicitly. My suggestion is to try to avoid those types of comments since they don't add value and just spoil the show for us who are trying to avoid that. I specifically don't follow some channels because I'm afraid they will ruin the show for me. My other comment/suggestion is that I think you guys should go through the questions and do a quick rehearsal ahead of time if your production schedule allows for it. Sometimes the two ladies get questions they clearly didn't expect about super specific stats like comparing army sizes of different regions and then they are actually pretty good at improving. But if they had some warning they would be able to answer those questions better. Not everyone has the whole wikipedia memorized and they shouldn't be expected to! Keep it up guys!

Justice for dreamfyre

What about the KingsGuard comparison?? I'm interested in King Aegon's friends and which side Harold Darkland will choose...

I love Screen Crush! Thank you!

@20:45 you mean like Rhaenyra going from dragonstone to sneaking into kings landing alone

THANKS for this, @ScreenCrush Gang!!!!

Quick errors: It was "Bleeding Kansas" where slave supporters from Missouri and other border states moved in to form militias and fight against abolitionists who had moved in to tilt the popular vote against slavery. Lan the Clever is a legendary figure from the Age of Heroes and perhaps before the Andal invasion. He won Casterly Rock somehow and started the Lannisters. Loren Lannister was the king who escaped the Field of Fire and knelt to the Conqueror Hardhome is a ruined settlement built on a natural port north of the wall. The Last Hearth is the closest stronghold to the wall. It is ruled by the Umbers.

@Windrammer

2 күн бұрын

Screencrush getting sloppy. Can’t even be bothered to read a couple wiki summaries.

Vhagar is specifically called the Biggest dragon at the time. Cannibal is actually small, it's the just the biggest of the wild dragons.

@thomasleonardis711

2 күн бұрын

Cannibal is not small. He’s of a similar size to Vermithor and believed to be nearly as old as Balerion.

@Victor支犭句Prawira

2 күн бұрын

not small, just smaller than V. it’s the fourth biggest dragon ever if i remember correctly

@Alejojojo6

Күн бұрын

@@thomasleonardis711 Cannibal is not as big as Vermithor. In the book thats never said. Its said that Vhagar is the largest, Vermithor the second largest and the Cannibal is the biggest just of THE WILD dragons. So bigger than greyghost and Sheepstealer. His exact date of birth is unknown but some point out to be older than Balerion (which is an obvious exageration) or born during the reign of Jaehaerys so younger than Dreamfyre, Silverwing etc...

@Alejojojo6

Күн бұрын

@@Victor支犭句Prawira Its never said he is the fourth biggest. He is said to be the biggest of the wild dragons. That means smaller than Vhagar and Vermithor and most likely smaller than Dreamfyre and Silverwing. I personally believe he is the fifth or fourth too behind those i mentioned.

@thomasleonardis711

Күн бұрын

@@Alejojojo6 while you are right that it was never stated he’s that large logic and reasoning explains him to be. For starters dragon age is often figured determined by their size. For the smallfolk to consider him as old or older then Balerion he would need to be of a similar size (I do agree this is probably an exaggeration however). He’s a wild dragon and not contained to the Dragon Pit which was known to stunt dragons growth. Secondly, we have the fact that this creature lived on the island of the Targaryens and ate dragons. If your entire political dynasty was based off of your dragons why leave that potential wild threat alive? Presumably because fighting it would have been too costly which means that it was considered large enough for Balerion, Vhagar and Vermithor to be severely hurt in the battle against him. That isn’t a small dragon or he would have been hunted down and captured/killed. Black Dragons do tend to be larger then other dragons although that could be circumstance (Balerion’s age/ Drogon not being locked up). Thirdly, if he was born during the reign of Kong Jaehaerys he’s only a few years (2 decades at most) younger then Vermithor while also living outside and not being stunted by the Dragon Pit which can be used to safely make them about equal in size. Lastly, we have the very fact that no one was even willing to try and claim it and that other dragons fled at its very shadow (Sheepstealer runs away rather then fight it) and dragons aren’t known to run. Martin doesn’t always like to spell things out but instead makes you think about them to come to your own conclusions. But there is more then enough evidence to claim Cannibal was large and probably around the size of Vermithor. So no. It is not outright stated he is as large as Vermithor but you are clearly supposed to picture a large powerful and savage dragon on par with the larger dragons of the dance.

You do need an abacus to keep up with all the characters and regions they live in

So lore and cannon does matter. Isn't it more fun when we all have a common understanding?

Thank you for no spoilers 😊

Lann The Clever lived thousands of years before Aegon's conquest. Are we sure they are experts?

I pray they eventually make a series for roberts rebellion

@karlbyrne589

Күн бұрын

May haps even an episode on the Battle of the Trident

Olenna Tyrell isn‘t even a Tyrell… she‘s a Redwyne by birth! 🤦🏻

The GoT scholar saying northmen are coming down from Hardhome 🤔 she may have meant Last Hearth

@waltertheterrible6062

2 күн бұрын

These GOT experts 😂 also Lan the Clever at the field of fire???

Storms end is the "Australia in Risk" of Westeros

Daryn (screen) crushed it in this video! Go, queen!

The only guy this war I'm really interested to see is Cregan Stark and his Greybeards.

Man, I need to buy the books cause ya'll know details all the way down to the character' personality 😅

Hardhome? Didn’t know the starks at this point kept in contact with all the people from beyond the wall. Also didn’t know lann the clever lived past the age of hero’s into the time of aegons conquest

So the king died only a few weeks ago but the hightowers and their Army have been marching for at least 3 months?

I think that the Tyrell’s were neutral during the civil war.

@akouri6967

2 күн бұрын

I thought that was the Blackfyre rebellion, but I may be wrong. It's been a while since I read Dunk and Egg

I would imagine the Lannisters fear of Dany on the Throne would stem from the brutal crimes committed by then during Roberts Rebellion. Jamie killing Aerys, Tywin sacking Kings Landing, Ser Gregor and Armory Lorch raping Elia and butchering her children. While Robert and Ned might have had genuine reasons to rebel due to the Mad Kings cruelty, Tywin committed his atrocities just to curry favour with the winning side. As for Cersei on the Throne, firstly she had no claim to it other than being a Regent for Joffrey and Tommen. Tywin distrusted her not because she was a women, but because she was an ineffectual ruler, which is evidenced in the later books when she arms the faith militant and a hundred other blunders.

Not the size of the army but how you maneuver it 😅

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

That's what she said.

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

(She lied.)

Not sure why there is a hesitation with spoilers. Could be wrong, but hasn't the ending already been revealed in Game of Thrones?

@diegopinales86

2 күн бұрын

Yeah Joffrey spoiled the ending

@AxelordSMIJES

2 күн бұрын

I'm guessing for "casual viewers" who may not have watched GoT. Or, rather may not have watched it a zillion times, like I have. And, yes, even the later seasons. I sill never forgive D&D for fucking the last 3 up so severely. Couple of see you next Tuesdays.

@pretty_flaco

2 күн бұрын

@@diegopinales86🗿

@BoomerBaskins

2 күн бұрын

There’s a huge percentage of viewers that have never read the books. Also, this series doesn’t follow the books EXACTLY and there are scenes and events that happen that nobody can predict.

@JamesDBuzzard

2 күн бұрын

Some people didn’t really pay attention to the little side stories in the GOT tv show so they might be missing a lot of the key little moments or forgotten them entirely. I never read and mostly binged GOT so I only know them or was reminded about them in KZread recaps and explainer type videos 😅 but I don’t mind spoilers from the book or stuff that happens in the show that they explain further it’s still fun to see how everything plays out week by week

I would say that if you put Westeros into US terms, the North is more like Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas, lots of land, but very few big cities, very few big settlements of people.

Could REALLY do without the gatekeeping toxicity when you tell us ad infinitum which GoT seasons (or which Star Wars films) we’re supposed to hate. Just analyze the show and assume we’re here because we are interested in the show.

That armor of valerian steel will be a double edge sword in the flames at rooks rest

There is a lot of inaccuracy in your discussions people. Please read the books. I had to face palm several times listening to this. 💀

Thanks for making this episode. And having Brianna on 😍

Did she say that hardhome was part of the north when talking about how long it would take to send ravens everywhere?

Brianna is dope

"I can do the blacks" Ryan to himself: Oh thank god...

What about the blockade by the by Velaryons? How is that affecting the Greens ie trade and resource?

27:09 what do you mean no spoilers they already named Dalton Greyjoy as the next possible Master of Ships

I really enjoyed the panel but it felt rushed and you cut them off. I would like them to go more into details about the dragon riders and how they bonded/matched with a dragon. Thanks!

Petition for more Daryn content asap!!

I’m curious about Rheana and her egg. She told Aemond Vaghar was hers to claim but she already had an egg in crypt. Just that it didn’t hatch. For Halaena she bonded with Dreamfyre. An adult dragon born way before her. Strange how a very dreamy girl just claim a Dragon that scared Aemond when he was a kid, curious over if Halaena had a dragon egg in her crypt or not or was it only one egg and it was sunfyre so aegon took the claim coz they were twins (are they twins?). Also why didn’t Aemond had a dragon egg in his crypt when he was a baby? And was sunfyre from the dragon egg in aegon crypt when he was a baby? Seems too fast to grow and seems the same size as Syrax whos much older. can anyone explain to me pls?

I like this channel. But between you and Emergency Awesome, ai dont know who makes up more stuff out of speculation.

Lan the Clever wasn’t at the Field of Fire

OK, so Queen R has most of the north. It would be honestly in her best interest to bargain with the Iron born! They are the second fierce fleet of ships at this time and absolutely wildcard and a gamble but would be a good idea. Also yeah obviously the iron born are the parallels to the Vikings

VAGAR is the oldest and specifically is from the old world

Lann the clever founded house lannister. Loren lannister was the commander king in the field of fire. PS. Brianna is bae ❤

I’m team French Revolution this shit

Can you get into The Maester Conspiracy? That the Maesters wanted the Dragons gone to make magic disappear

Shouldn’t all armies from the North collect at White Harbor & sail south?

That's incorrect about Robert Baratheon. He happened to be related to them but he won the throne by conquest, he made sure people knew this.

@suciojay1604

2 күн бұрын

Not just by conquest. His claim was recognized due to the Targaryen lineage he shared with Aerys II. His grandmother was on of Aegon V’s daughters, Rhaelle.

@ramb0lxmb

2 күн бұрын

The point is that the Targaryen's convinced everyone that their blood was superior and that's why they could control dragons. So Robert needed a link to prove he was "fit" to sit the throne. The same way Caesar said he was descended from Aeneas and ultimately Venus. The same way the Bible makes a big deal out of Jesus' lineage from David and Abraham. We could do this all day.

Rhaenyras mother was also an Arryn!

7:28 and why Lannistors not supporting Denaeres counts as sexism. They were fighting against invasion, after all jammie didn't get called kingslayer just for anything

Can we please not forget that Bella her dragon is born in pintos and she means it morning also look at the description it’s amazing

I can’t stand how the girl in the middle pronounces the dragons names😤 TEE-Raxes?! It’s TYRAXES😭

Ok, so, I honestly really wish they'd just decided to extend the storyline in season 1 w/ the younger versions of the characters through the entirety of the season. It was a hella awesome storyline & definitely deserved way more time spent fleshing the characters out in their most formative years.. Then they could've easily started season 2 w/ the big time jump to the older versions, instead of the confusingly jarring way of doing it mid-season. Also, 8 episodes is very lame. The producers should've, @ the very least, matched the 1st season w/ 10 episodes. C'mon HOTD! Jeeez! 😏

So many loops in these family trees.

Imagine if we were experts of history, politics and geography of our world as we are for Westeros'

Lann the clever was never a King of the Rock.

What about braavos?

Did she seriously say ravens to Hardhomme? No wildlings fighting for “southerners” yet I’m afraid.

@ScreenCrush

2 күн бұрын

She meant harrenhall

@darynrobinson8926

2 күн бұрын

I misspoke on a couple things in this vid that I am now facepalming about 🤦🏾‍♀️ We recorded early in the morning and I am a mere mortal but thanks for catching that 😊

@suciojay1604

2 күн бұрын

@@darynrobinson8926 no worries. I thought it was funny. Wildlings should’ve been incorporated a long time ago anyway.

Bro Daryn is so pretty and so smart! Fantastic segment, I'd love to see more of both panelists.

So is Vaghar the largest dragon? Or is it Vermithor or Cannibal?

@Dmbm789

2 күн бұрын

Vaghar is the oldest and largest at the start of house of the dragon

@Alejojojo6

2 күн бұрын

Vhagar, Vermithor is second biggest.

Rhaenyra going to kings landing was just silly.

@nav9867

2 күн бұрын

She had to get closure, and she got it it’s officially war time

Were they saying the cannibal was bigger than vhagar? And how do the blacks have no financial backing when their greatest allies are the richest house in the realm (house velaryon) kinda felt they were talking out of their ass at some points.

"Experts"

I know all the dragon names! They are easier then the kids names

He sure blinks a lot

Corlys is the richest man in westeros during this period, thanks to all his navy adventures

Aren't the Velaryons also very rich?

The one in the middles a baddie

Harranhall is at a strategic location for garrisoning troops for quick deployment to control the Riverlands & set up blockades. The Tyrells control the area where most of the food production happens which is kind of essential. Both places are important for diff reasons logistically. Medieval society is very striated. Every High Lord of a region has vassals (houses)who in turn have lords with vassals & they don't always get along as demonstrated in the opening scenes of ep 3. There is always the danger of a coup within one of the 7 kingdoms during a war for the crown. People will also defect to the winning side as things change despite their original allegience. It's a political & logistical nightmare. Very few medieval kings ruled for long, extended periods of time & for most of their reign they were at war with someone. 😮

Hello 👋

@DiabolikSilhouette

2 күн бұрын

Bye! 👋🏼

This 3 person style of video wasn't the best one for this subject, I got kinda boring, should've done with only one person explaining everything

These 2 girls don’t know what they think they do.