I was sat next to you on the train last week on the way back to Manchester. You looked busy editing, so I left you to it. The video you were editing happened to be this one.

Network Rail are lifting the crossing surface and inspecting the rails while the road is closed

Kyle might be one of the most charismatic guests you have had, Geoff. Bring him on more trips, he's very good.

@btuckervideos4705

2 жыл бұрын

Who's Kyle? You mean Karl

Just look at the quality of that litterbin, still standing tall and proud after 40+ years of jolting. ¡ To the Pacers, all of them ! 13:50

If you look out of the window as the train left Burscough Bridge heading towards Wigan, on a clear day (we do get them) you can clearly see the curves of the two chords that join the Ormskirk Preston line. The embankments are still there, and typically are covered in trees. They have been talking of reinstating the link from Burscough Bridge to Burscough Junction so Merseyrail trains could have an alternative route to Southport via Ormskirk. Also Southport to Preston or on to Blackpool, the trains reversing at Burscough Junction. Whether it happens is another thing. The new class 777s for Merseyrail are designed to be future proofed for dual voltage, although they will need pantagraphs and transforms installed. That way should Network Rail electrify either route with 25kv, through electric services from Ormskirk or Southport will be possible.

If the Ormskirk - Preston line is working as well as it usually does, Geoff and Karl are probably still waiting to get to their destination...

Regarding the road closure enquiry, they are lifting the surface units of the level crossing to carry out a technical inspection of the rails beneath. As for what that actually entails, you'd need to speak to Network Rail (I work in the Streetworks Department for the Council and processed the request form)

@andrewjameson5918

4 жыл бұрын

The surface units are generally between the rails and outside of the rails, i.e a metal trough with bitumen in, or concrete panels or even rubber panels These should be removable so as you have stated the track bed below can be inspected. I would assume that the inspection is required to check the condition of the track bed. I am an engineer but do not work on the railways.

Geoff, as Les Dawson used to say " Lancashire is only there to keep the rain off Yorkshire".

@katiejenkinson9521

4 жыл бұрын

David Marsden and ain’t that a fact

Great to see Karl back on the channel! :)

I moved to West Lancashire from Manchester 40 years ago and I'm still regarded as a foreigner by the locals, so calling Karl your local guide is possibly a bit of a stretch!😄

Watching one of your videos is the best thing to do whilst on a train!

Kevin Owens conducting trains in rural Lancashire.

@andrewwhite4640

4 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment this

@ArmbarArcade

4 жыл бұрын

OMG YES

@regmemer9198

4 жыл бұрын

I was desperately hoping it was THE Kevin Owens. I was not disappointed.

Karl is funny. I like him loads. I will visit Manchester one day

Karl's an absolute babe, more of him pls! I thought the swimming was a bit much at first but it had me in stitches when it was interspersed with that footage.

Desolate? Just a bit wet. Seems like a perfectly pleasent rural stop. I wish I could have seen the stations around before beeching got stuck in. Would have made a lovely series

Also you can walk on the Burscough curves and even the Preston-Ormskirk line but not from the road

Hoscar is what the missus calls me when she's angry with me.

That's a newly done Burscough Junction platform too, used to live by there and it took them a year to rebuild! Nice video!

I suppose it would be cheating to just measure one of the platform edge slabs, and then count them?

Cool video Geoff and I always enjoy your videos.

No blowing bag in the rain?! lol. Great to see Karl again, he does make a great and amusing 'sidekick'. (Desolate Scale: Angel Road =10)

Being a Lancastrian, I can assure you Oscar/Hoscar *(other spellings are available) only ranks a mere 3 on the desolation scale which is not influenced in any way by rain or Pacers.

@mattevans4377

4 жыл бұрын

Will the station be better when serviced by class 150 sprinters (When the reshuffle involving the class 195s happens)?

Good to meet you both on the way back from your trip at Preston on that day!

@geofftech2

4 жыл бұрын

ha ha, yes! that's where we'd just come from. hello!

@beneliastrains

4 жыл бұрын

@@geofftech2 I'd be interested in joining you for one of these least used stations trips in the future if you are in need of someone to come along

lol the two off You peeping out of the shelter, its still raining, great film work!

East Farleigh station on the 'Medway Valley Line' in Kent also has platforms on the 'wrong' side of a level crossing. The station is actually in Barming though, and just to confuse everyone, Barming station is actually in Aylesford. Normality is resumed however, because Aylesford station is actually in Aylesford.

People have correctly identified that the road closure is to enable inspection of the rails in this case.In some cases, level crossings are used as access points for road-rail vehicles for overnight maintenance works, which requires closure of the road.

My local station, Heighington, has staggered platform on the 'wrong' side of the level crossing

Why are your videos so informative yet incredibly strange

@geofftech2

4 жыл бұрын

David Connolly Walsh Because life is short David, and you’ve gotta have a bit of fun along the way ... 😃👍

@David2012342

4 жыл бұрын

@@geofftech2 just to be clear i wasnt trying to be mean, I just find your humour strange sometimes and there's no easy way to explain it. I still generally enjoy watching your content as the information your provide is always interesting

Loving the Rose On the station sign

Being born in Southport and living for the past 23 years in Leeds I have travelled along that line many times. New Lane and Bescar Lane cannot be far behind Hoscar as least used railway stations and have the same stopping pattern as Hoscar and there is equally nothing there. Trains, as I recall, have stopped more frequently there over distant years. The pleasant fertile fields you noted are what local Southport people call the ‘Moss’ and used to be under water and were drained for farming. As a child I used cycle around the little lanes around there and watch the trains. The Moss is very much on the boundary of West Lancashire as it boarders with Merseyside, once you reach Meols Cop and Southport Railway Stations you are in Merseyside. There is still much debate that Southport should return to Lancashire and it was highly controversial move following local government reorganisation in 1973. The Burscough curves remain very much overgrown and there have been discussions over the years of restoring them particularly the north curve which would reinstate Southport with a direct rail service to Preston. Beeching closing the direct Southport to Preston line, together with the Burscough curves. It was also intended the Southport, Wigan, via Daisy Hill to Manchester Victoria line should have closed as well!

That was a good laugh. I looked up the least used station in The Netherlands: 142 per "average" working day for Maastricht Randwyck. This is only NS, other train companies are not included in that list (this does cover the majority of the stations though). This also excludes people just changing trains, counting is done on check-in/check-out with a chipcard. For perspective: the most used station using the same metric is Utrecht Centraal, with 194385 passengers per "average" working day.

The Hoscar, sorry Oscar, level crossing works appear to be an inspection of the rails under the level crossing "surface units". Checking for wear etc, I'd imagine.

I love your videos Geoff, Viki will be jealous you went on a pacer.

Enjoy these videos from the old country. Was a driver in England, now in NZ. Down here your videos contain Air New Zealand (Air All blacks) ads, ready for the up coming World Cup.

It's called 'Oscar in the local vernacular. We drop the H when referring to the hamlett. Drove past the station daily for work for a few years.

When isn't it raining in Lancashire? great to see you finally do this vid, Come to clitheroe and you can do entwistle the request stop!

I normally never react, but back in 2009 I have been in Southport to study a course in Dangerous Goods in Tankcontainers by Roy Boneham. Already back then, Southport was quite desolate, it was the one and only time, that I have visited the UK at all. We flew to Manchester back then.

@s125ish

4 жыл бұрын

gti505 where you from ?

Very good video Geoff

You could have at least headed for Sunny Southport. Then caught the X2 bus to Preston bus station, which is a listed building. I'm an infrequent user of that line, as I live in the Southport area. (Having moved from Epsom) A friend and I plan to do a pub crawl from Southport to Wigan by train. There are at least five pubs either by stations, or a five minute walk away, and that's not including either Wigan or Southport. One is even the old converted station building and a couple are by the nearby Leeds and Liverpool Canal.

Pity you went in the wet as the countryside around Hoscar is great for walking on a sunny day. Not far from the station is a swing bridge on the Leeds-Liverpool canal from where you can follow the canal towards either Burscough (Bridge or Junction) or Parbold. You could even follow its Rufford branch to Rufford

Oscar looks abandoned Geoff. Sorry, Hoscar. That was a bit Wilde of me to say that 😂

Rename your son “Hoscar”, obviously.

In a Westerly direction is a great pub called Hen & Chickens 👍 about a mile from there...but theirs 1 closer which I can't think of right now lol..

Wow. A rare sighting of Geoff wearing a head garment...

This video is going to win the Oscar 😉

Dammmm I wish I would of known you were at burscough bridge I live there and watch all of your videos!

I like how in a lot of cases they couldn't be bothered to paint over the turquoise on the roofs of the Pacers.

Great editing on taking the H out!! 😂

Platforms are so long because of the Great North Rail Project (GNRP) bringing longer trains and faster journeys to stations across the North of England

@jollyjohnston1984

4 жыл бұрын

Have they been extended, I'm pretty sure they where always long enough to accomadate a 4 car, which is the max length that will run on the southport line. The platform used to accommodate longer trains in the old BR/regional railways days.

@allenwilliams1306

4 жыл бұрын

@@jollyjohnston1984 ...as we could see!

Nodding Donkey interior shot at the end, priceless. 😆

Used to scuttle through Hoscar twice a day in the early 80’s on my way to and from Burscough Priory High School (as was) by rattly old train from Parbold (my ATS adopted station) . Don’t think I ever saw anyone get on or off even back then! BTW I guess the nearby Wastewater Treatment works wasn’t too ripe that day, or maybe you were upwind 😊

Will you ever do anything associated with merseyrail? Like secrets of the MerseyRail line or the Hamilton square station facts? Just curious bc it would be nice to see my local toc being on your channel

up near my neck of the woods! haha nice video 😊

If you ever start a band, Geoff, you can call it "The Eleventh of Awkward".

Just looked on google maps because my Nan lives in Ormskirk. Didn't realize that junction was genuinely that small like on the diagram!

Perhaps a factor for on the low numbers using the station, could be the very large Hoscar Sewage Works located around half a mile from the station?

Good luck with the campaint to rename Hoscar, Oscar! If you succeed I'll start a campaign to get Henley-on-Thames renamed to Henry-on-Thames!

Had a quick look og G maps and it seems the tracks are lifted on the curve/blue line at Burscough Bridge ....

A double-set of Pacer's . . . . what fresh hell is that?!

hoscar once had a goods yard used by the local farmers as theres a number in the area so that might explain the size of the platforms?

What is Karl’s favorite type of car? An Oscar

are they upgrading the Pacers to 195's on this line ?

You could do All the Wanted Extra Stations going to places where trains run through a sizeable place that needs a station.

@allenwilliams1306

4 жыл бұрын

That is a good idea: also, perhaps, The Missing Stations in suitable places that lost their tracks in the 50s and 60s, or even those places recently developed that should be on the rail network. Or Missing Connexions, looking at the feasibility and potential of new or restored links to the network, like those Burscough chords.

You managed to ressurrect Bob Hoskins to Hoscar? Neat!!

Geoff, I presume you must be getting round to doing Darnall soon (South Yorkshire) and for that matter Dove Holes (Derbyshire) - although no service at present due to the Dam?

Hoscar just won the Oscar!!

Surely it should br 'Oscar.

Hey Geoff pls do a video on HS2...... I’m so unclear at the moment as to whether uk should be going forward with it. Value for money?

Karl might be the silliest and funniest of your companions so far. But I missed the facility exploration. Are there dot matrix indicators, breeze blowing bin bags, bike racks, (os)car park?

When you got off the train, I thought your guide was James Burke!

Walked there from Burscough Bridge via the canal last year. Was on a Day Ranger, so I won't count in the figures. Unless train guards count numbers?

Carl and Dr Ben (Finstock) are the best sidekicks so far.

Good, cheers

I've actually used this one. I was on a walk and gave up around the Ring O'Bells pub in Lathom. Had to wait an hour but back then Hoscar got trains every two hours. I would have thought New Lane or Bescar Lane (just up the line) were quieter actually, they seem much further removed from society.

@sevendaughters

4 жыл бұрын

oh and my mum has always pronounced this 'Oscar' as Hoscar Moss is just down the way, I suspect it is called 'oscar' by locals.

Why is the E in Passengers italic?

12:49 welcome to my world.

Robber @Geoff Marshall your guide Karl looks alot like Bruce Reynolds the great train Robber would love to see you do a video of where that took place

Geoff on the district line going towards Upminster at West Kensington there’s a piece of track going left into a tunnel and it’s all grassed over. Any ideas of where that goes?

@norbitonflyer5625

4 жыл бұрын

It goes into Lillie Bridge depot, which is where most of the maintenance trains live. The depot itself can be seen from the Overground between West Brompton and Olympia

Should have walked to the ship inn - approx 20 mins - great beer and food!

Yay Hoscar, my local station

but can we get a least used station in cheshire?

You might want to have a look into Reddish South Railway station in Manchester. I think it has two trains a week

It's sunny in Ormskirk

I've actually seen someone get on here! Must be one of the two...

That's a nice station house. It must have had far more importance in the past.

u bounced in and out my home county because i live in sefton but closer to lancashire than sefton park

Long platform because of former adjacent goods yard used by the local farmers to transport produce to nearby towns and cities. Ormsirk is the heart of potato production in the northwest of England.

Legal mesmo gostei do trem

I went on those northern trains in Lancaster today but i went to Manchester😭 so i couldnt see you...

Hii Geoff I was wondering if you might do a video on the old national rail section of Queen’s Park tube station if your on the north bound platform and face away from the other platforms you can see it behind a green fence but if you look on a national rail and tube map the lines don’t go anywhere near it but trains run through it anyways! this is the only one I could find because at Kensal Green and Willesden Junction there is no evidence of a platform ever being there! I was hoping you could solve the mystery or maybe just take a look? Anyways thanks and loved the video

@norbitonflyer5625

4 жыл бұрын

There used to be main line platforms at Willesden Junction until 1962, when they removed in order to ease the curves for the new and faster electric trains. The main line platforms at Queens Park can be used if Euston station has to be closed for any reason. Kensal Green never had main line platforms - the station was opened in 1916 when the new tracks now used by the Overground and Bakerloo were built.

Hoscar is only down the line from where I live which is in Southport.

You can see the track beds of the 2 Burscough Curves from the train just after leaving Burscough Junction Station by looking west. There have been many proposals to reinstate the curves and all have been ignored by the by those who could make it happen. Just search the web for Burscough curves reinstatement to get the full sorry tale. One of the latest proposals is to build a station where the 2 lines cross with hopefully, a large car park and link the 2 stations by lifts to allow an interchange. moderngov.merseytravel.uk.net/documents/s21687/Enc.%202%20for%20Updated%20Long%20term%20Rail%20Strategy.pdf section 8

Could you not send the drone up to see what’s on the bridge or is that too close to people & buildings?

I'm sure the research has been done, but I always assumed Salwick would be the least used station in Lancashire. It's just an island platform in the middle of nowhere. I can't even remember being on a train that stopped there. Of course, I live in Australia but I've lived in Blackpool as well so I know that line well.

@norbitonflyer5625

4 жыл бұрын

Close, but Hoscar edges it with 1,432. Salwick had 1,518

@folksinger2100

4 жыл бұрын

@@norbitonflyer5625 Salwick supports the Westinghouse Electric UK Limited site

I do hope the old Preston/Southport line is reopnened via the Ormskirk route.

Hoscar is pronounced 'Oscar by the locals anyway.... :)

Would love to see the least used station in the West Midlands!

This video looks like a typical summer day's weather in England. Here in the Pacific Northwest of the United States of America it is a sunny 31 degrees.

@norbitonflyer5625

4 жыл бұрын

I thought you still used Farhenheit over there - that's cold!

@briangarrow448

4 жыл бұрын

@@norbitonflyer5625I thought since this is a British railfan channel, I should give the temp in a familiar scale.

@Geoff can you confirm where Breich is now. In 2017 it had less uses then British Redcar steel - 48 entries and exits in a year.

@norbitonflyer5625

4 жыл бұрын

102 in 2017/18, compared with BS Redcar 40 (previous year 48 and 50)

Love it :-D