Wheelchair user here, 1. Gravel sucks 2. The ramp is definitely to steep especially at the top Why does the station have a gate in the first place?

@hesky10

3 жыл бұрын

I asked myself that as soon as I saw it in the video, it's the style of gate you see on public rights of ways

@nigelkthomas9501

3 жыл бұрын

@@hesky10 That gate will probably be there to stop animals like sheep wandering on to the railway. Very serious safety issue is animals on the line.

It's depressingly repetitive how half-assed accessibility provisions often are, especially when they're retrofits. Here in the US, and I'm sure it's a similar situation over there, we have a set of very specific rules about how these things are supposed to be done, and it feels like at _least_ half the time, the people doing retrofits to older facilities didn't consult them. "It needs a ramp. OK, here's a ramp. Job done!"

I'm watching these least used stations videos back to back. Hours of enjoyment. Sarah is a star.

I hope national rail see this to truly learn what accessible is and isn’t as this is clearly inaccessible. Great vid Geoff and H Sarah!!

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I hope they do too.

Geoff: has access to a tape measure Also Geoff: still voluntarily chooses to measure the platform length in the obscure units of Sarah wheelchair revolutions

All The Accessible Stations 2019

Less than 1 hour after the video was uploaded, the Wiki article has already been edited! You're an influential figure, Geoff...

Once upon a time, more than 30 years ago, I used to live in Shropshire. It is a marvellous county.

Looked away when the video was loading and glanced back to see a man fall into water and flail about, and was wondering what drastically dramatic turn Geoff's channel had taken.. ..but no, just an RNLI advert. Maybe next time.

We have similar accessibility problems at Biggleswade Station (Bedfordshire). No ramps and no lifts so there’s very limited accessibility. The get around this by offering free taxis to the nearest accessible station 10 minute drive away (Sandy Station)

Best cameo in a ‘Least used’ video. Loved this! Great stuff Sarah and well done to team ‘least used’ for highlighting this important problem.

I am really pleased you made this video how you did. I have no accessibility problems (yet) but do have a friend who does. Knowing her has made me so much more aware of accessibility issues, and the fact that it is ordinary people who are being affected. It's rather frustrating that the railway company at Broome are probably giving themselves a pat on the back for making the station step-free, without considering whether it and its services are actually accessible. Keep up the good work. You can actually change people's opinions and outlooks.

Love this video and what it highlighted, we are so quick to overlook things that don't effect us. I find that parts of this video was difficult to watch and Arriva/Network Rail ought to be ashamed of themselves. Thank you Sarah for opening peoples eyes to accessibility issues that are swept under the carpet for so many people. ❤

Well I think National Rail Enquiries calling that station wheelchair "accessible" is a serious, serious stretch. I'd say they're in breach of their Equality Act obligations. It's one thing to not claim the station as accessible, but they are claiming it is. The slope is tricky but that gate is the real killer of accessibility.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

It's certainly something that I've discussed with them (and local t.o.c.)

@user-yf4gx9lw6c

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew Long why was there even a gate? I can't really see any use for it.

@roboftherock

6 жыл бұрын

Then there's the other side of the gate - How would Sarah open that gate if she was coming off at Broome. I can't figure out how she could unlatch the gate, then pull it open while manoeuvring backwards up a slope.

@AureliusR

4 жыл бұрын

@@OneKnifeYeHand In these rural areas it is usually to keep livestock/other animals out.

I don’t know why I like these videos but I can’t help watching 10 in a row

3:04 wheelchair revolutions sounds like the name of my new prog-rock band.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Love it! Or a new John Cage.

@roboftherock

6 жыл бұрын

Sarah Ward I wonder if the time signature of such a piece would be 1/1?

I went on the Heart of Wales line last year, about a week behind you when you did it on All The Stations. I had to alight at Broome on the Saturday morning, as there were engineering works between there and Shrewsbury (or however you pronounce it!!!) and so had to do that stretch by bus! At least I got to do most of the Heart of Wales line proper on the train.

Great video Geoff, the least used series is my second favourite of yours, all the stations come first.

Guys, from an Anglophile in the U.S., please keep it up! Love All the vlogs!

It been a long wait for this one, but worth it. I will post the link on a couple of the Shropshire facebook groups.

Great video, it's a fab line that I'm sure TfW would love to ditch because they regularly give up on running trains. An eye-opener for accessibility issues too. Thank you Sarah for taking part and illustrating the point.

Having visited Broome 3 times in the last year (and started a walk video from the station), I totally agree that the gate it pointless and the ramp is too steep. Definite crimes against accessibility.

Very interesting video! Good to see it from another perspective!

thoughtful and important message well told. Sarah, well done and I am sure will catch the attention of authorities to rethink some of their corporate definitions

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thank-you. I hope so.

Thanks for coming to Shropshire! Hopefully the new franchise owners will sort this out.

An interesting and worthwhile addition and it shows the disparages about what is actually accessible and what isn't accessible accessble. And certainly shows Broome isn't accessible owing to the steepness of the ramp from the street to the platform and that gate which Sarah certainly had issues with opening - and as Sarah mentions in her comment - Access is a huge problem. For those who don't know this, the station information pages - except the maps - on the National Rail website are actually the responsibility of the station owing train operator to ensure that the information is correct - not National Rail - as that data then cascade into various feeds which also supply station information data into TOC website sites. Some TOCs are excellent at ensuring their station data is correct whilst others can be a bit lapse - if you spot a potential station information page error let the TOC know!

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. That's useful.

There's a yard of old machinery you can see from the train at Broome, I played with a jazz band on this line from Shrewsbury to Llandrindod Wells about 10 years ago!

Loved this video. Sarah was great, highlighting a serious problem in a good-natured and good-humoured way, hopefully we'll see her again if yous do another station near her. Really upsets me that this isn't something that's easily fixed, I would volunteer to help if I could as I can't stand the thought that other people don't get to experience the same freedoms as me just because they have different needs.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Hi! Thank-you, it was a pleasure to be involved, and I'm glad that it came over well. It would be great to do more. Loved going to Broome, even though it's in "my" county, it was an absolute voyage of discovery: Lovely area.

I'm a Shropshire lad (stuck in Berkshire) and I'd never heard of Broome station! Nearest station to Clun by the looks of it ( a mere six or seven miles west) I love these videos: currently binge-watching all the least used station ones

Brilliant video..well done to all involved

I enjoyed this video. Wow, that's quite a step up from the platform at Hopton.

Iove this... One of my fav episodes ☺️ Sarah is awesome

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thank-you, that's really kind. I love the "Least Used" series, and it was an absolute pleasure to be involved. Lovely area.

Just for clarification, under U.K. law, a wheelchair ramp cannot be steeper than a rise to run ratio of 1 to 12, and there must be a level strech after every 10 meters (32 feet, 9 11/16 inches). This is similar to the United States, which requires the same rise to run ratio and a resting platform every 30 feet (9.144 m).

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, appreciated.

@DavidGlendinning

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tom... I was just going to mention the 1:12 gradient but decided to read the other comments first. :)

The Wikipedia page has been edited. Including the fact that the ramp is difficult to use by a wheelchair passenger.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@TrainNutter

6 жыл бұрын

No problem! :D

I see the wikipedia article has been changed based on this video, good video as usual Geoff.

I'm all for accessible stations from most to least...

@nigelkthomas9501

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Ardwick. It’s close to Manchester Piccadilly and has three significant flights of steps. It’s one of the most “Red ❌” stations there is!

@icascone

3 жыл бұрын

@@nigelkthomas9501 Life is hard enough without a disability let alone having one with few accessible places... :/

@nigelkthomas9501

3 жыл бұрын

@@icascone I take it you’ve been to Ardwick then?

@icascone

3 жыл бұрын

@@nigelkthomas9501 I wish I live in Australia but having a chronic condition for 20 years Ii understand the need to make life easier for all of us! I have been to London though and hope to visit UK more one day!

Asking for all stations to be made accessible: be careful of unintended consequences because, despite the legal complexities involved, it may turn out cheaper for the company to close stations like Broome rather than upgrade them. It is already happening with toilets on the Pacers in South Wales - because they can't be made accessible they are to be locked out of use (or disabled, even) - thus all (remaining) toilets on the network will be accessible.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

This is a very interesting point. There certainly IS the possibility of that outcome. Gosh, I didn't know that, about the Pacers. I've never been on one that did have a toilet (as far as I can recall). As an aside, have you seen the "two stage" ramp solution? I was quite struck by it!

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/toilets-many-arriva-trains-wales-14598405 As far as I am aware, all Pacers have toilets, but none of them are "accessible".

@DavidShepheard

4 жыл бұрын

I see your point, but at some stage a stand has to be made. I, like most Londoners, used to really like our old Routemaster buses. They were popular with tourists too. But they prevented disabled people from travelling around London. (This was a London that at the time also had worse wheelchair access on the trains and London Underground, so not being able to get onto Routemasters meant that being in a wheelchair made poor people housebound.) Then we had some activists wheel themselves up to the Routemasters, dive out of their wheelchairs, crawl underneath the buses and handcuff themselves to the driveshafts. Crippling the buses that they could not get onto. They were right and everyone else was wrong. Routemasters were awesome. But getting wheelchair users onto the buses (and trains) of London was more important than keeping quaint buses. The UK can not be made 100 percent accessible in one go, but the time of pretending disabled passengers do not exist is long gone. Closing non-accessible toilets, in order to claim that "there are no non-accessible toilets" is massaging the statistics. And if that happens, the ToCs that do it should be publicly shamed for lying to disabled people and people should call for them to be renationalised and replaced with an organisation that will actually invest in accessibility.

Not only is that ramp far too steep and the question of any need for a gate but it seems the surface is very uneven on the ramp up - did Network Rail ever do anything about it?

ITS shrewsbury, home of the shrew (shroos-bury)

Loved this video.

Salt bin is necessary because of the aforementioned ramp - where there are steep gradients, you need grit to clear them in the winter.

@98CookR

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew Long I suspect the Health and Safety Executive ruling is that the grit has to be available, and the public could therefore use it at their own discretion, or that in inclement weather, the TOC could send someone to do it. In my local area a few particularly steep minor roads have bins that the local homeowners can use.

@cesariojpn

6 жыл бұрын

Andrew Long In a documentary on British rail operators (Keeping Britian On Track? Search for that on YT), usually they'll send out a crew to do the gritting in the middle of the night. Having such grit bins in a located place would seem like a good idea.

I think the railways should hire Sarah.

In a non-disability themed comment. Broome and Hopton are in a lovely lovely part of Shropshire, and I'd highly recommend a visit. There's more than one castle nearby!

What a lovelly guest.

Just edited the Wikipedia page!

@Puckoon2002

6 жыл бұрын

You left out the part about no bins.

@AureliusR

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, you cannot use a KZread video as a source on Wikipedia in almost all cases. It is considered a primary source and/or unreliable.

Thank you for covering accessibity issues hopefully network rail will take notice

@roboftherock

6 жыл бұрын

It's sad to say, but small stations as this one are not the responsibility of NR. They operate the major stations - Euston, Waterloo, Waverley, Glasgow Central, etc. No, these small stations are the responsibility of the franchise operator - and since Arriva have just lost the franchise, that will not be on their 'must do tomorrow' list. Lord only knows how long it will take the new lot to get something done. Probably more like the opening line of the song 'Do Re Mi' from 'The Sound of Music' - 'Let's start at the very beginning…'

there's also great places that turn half of stairs into a super steep ramp and call it wheelchair accesable. no rocket boost provided at the bottom I don't think about accesibility a lot because my legs work fine but somebody in a wheelchair asked me to help her get up a slope somewhere and that really showed me how hard it can be to get up a slope that doesn't feel too bad to walk up

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Oh aren't there. Yes, it often isn't until you're in that situation, that you begin to get it.

Topical video Geoff. It would be a great if you could show things like the driver doing the token.

@mukrifachri

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Geoff pointed the camera the wrong way XD

@2112jonr

6 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea. Most of us probably never get to use or see a section of line that still uses tokens, unless we go on a steam preservation railway. That would make a good subject for a short video.

Where are the brooms?

@markiangooley

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe the plants grow nearby

awesome video i like the video about the tube maps and what editing software do you use

Terrific Video (!!)

Good video if network rail used this to test all stations for accessibly for all rail users.

Please make a "most used stations" series 😄 would be cool

One of the advantages of living in greater Los Angeles is basically all rail stations of any sort were built (or rebuilt) after the Americans with Disabilities Act was passed in 1990, meaning they are all fully wheelchair accessible, at least in theory. This in not the case in places like New York City or Chicago.

I was at Church Fenton (south of York) last Wednesday and up until then I’d never given any thought as to what class of station it was. Out of four platforms only one has step free access. Platform 1 for trains to Pontefract, Sheffield, Selby and Hull. All the others have long ramps, but the ramps oddly enough have steps every six foot! How daft it that? With regard to Broome I strongly suspect Sarah will be the first wheelchair passenger that station has seen in many years!

Would love to see a series on station accessibility, testing out the reality behind accessibility claims on the website. Could also make a good resource for people at NR, TOCs etc who could stand to understand accessibility needs better, given your experience at Broome. (Suspect it wasn't even considered when procuring that gate!)

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

This would be a super idea. Of course, you'd need to involve people with a wide range of access requirements. I've had a number of similar experiences, in recent weeks, it's surprising how commonplace these problems remain. Oh and that gate... What WERE they thinking.

@richardavsmith

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, for sure - mobility needs aren't the only issues the railway has in terms of accessibility, not by a long shot! I really doubt they were thinking of accessibility at all: I think their main priority was probably 'securing all the boundaries of the railway' with the toughest materials they could get as cheaply as possible! (British railways are so much more fenced off than most on the continent, though that seems to be a more recent development.)

That's stretching the definition of accessibility. That said, GWR's Nailsea and Backwell station in Somerset is a major commuter station for Bristol. Whilst there's a huge car park, there's a steep ramp up to the north bound line which is more inclined than Broome's. But even if you can get up the ramp, if you're thinking of getting off coming back, forget it ! There's no crossing over the lines, bar a footbridge (steps only not a ramp) and if you go down to road level on the side you alight, it's also a set of VERY steep and narrow steps only - which are probably also a difficult for anyone with walking difficulties. Though the surrounding topography is a challenge in terms of engineering a ramp, it's not impossible, and is isolating for anyone local who has to use a wheelchair, especially for a mainline and heavily used station.

That measurement was no short of being "revolutionary"! lol

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you thought so! 😀

Maybe I shouldn’t have said “Hello Sarah” out loud when watching video with earphones in

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Hello! Don't worry: I've done worse things.

Oh no! New video needed. It's now Hopton Heath, next station south from Broome. Massive reduction (38%) in 2019/20

Good video Geoff. Also may be Sarah could do her own KZread channel, of seeing how many stations in Britain are Wheelchair accessible.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Tempting. I've considered "Accessible Tube Challenge", too.

One of the things I'm super impressed by is the "Step-free" accessibility in the Purple [Elizabeth Line] Line stations. (Yeah, yeah, I've brought this up with Simon.)

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

I need to visit this, don't I? I won't get into the Crossrail/Elizabeth Line thing 😉

@ninjagoggles

6 жыл бұрын

(Probably for the best. I asked my boyfriend's friend Simon, "So, do you have opinions about the whole "Crossrail/Elizabeth line naming scheme, or is it just one guy on the internet?" "Oh, you mean my friend Geoff?!" Followed by - I thought impossibly - even more strong opinions than Mr. Marshall! :-D ) So yeah. But! I was impressed by the map of the ... new line... where *every* station is marked as accessible! Maybe you & G & V can test this out once they're all open! All The ... Purple ... Stations!

my friends who used to live in Broome used Broome Station everyday for school - quite a few years ago I'm talking - but it always seemed a really desolate station... plus I hear that Arriva Trains Wales will be taken over by another company in September/October, can't remember the name though

I cycled the Bristol-Bath Railway Path today. Maybe an interesting video in it!

I think it’s really good that she was happy to help you out, but you should maybe contact network rail and explain the accessibility issues at this station, looping in northern. You can contact them both directly from Twitter, send them both a DM explaining the issues, along with some contact details. I’m sure they’d be able to investigate and make improvements based on the feedback they receive.

When you have done this series of least used stations, can you do the busiest stations in each county? Please

When are you doing Upton? That's our nearest station!

The way Geoff pronounces Cynghordy at the beginning of this video is distressing :P But on a serious note, the accessibility to that platform needs to improve. On the Arriva Trains Wales Network Map, it does say that Broome has "Partial access for wheelchair users" but from this video, it's quite evident that accessing the platform with a wheelchair isn't entirely easy

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Arriva were a little more honest, at least. Yes, it's a "wheelchair user, plus companion", job.

Hi Geoff when are you doing falls of chruachan the least used station in argyll and Bute which you went to on all the stations on the oban line

Hopton Heath #1 fav station also local to me!

What a loud train! (on the inside) Hi Sarah I'm legally blind and I think I would have found that gate to be a challenge as well, the first time anyway (the tiny timetable text can be overcome by using the camera on your phone)

I'm guessing that the original intent of the Wikipedia article was talking about the Harrington Hump since it mentioned boarding and alighting. It's really not the best worded piece, but if the author was listing things *on the platform*, that massive steep ramp and gate wouldn't count. From a certain point of view. I'm going to go against my normal form and think that there was no malicious or stupid intent. Hopefully accessibility within transport will improve, but with the challenges of different stock on the same platform and the different sizes, the gap issue will be hard to solve. New builds for single stock like Crossabeth can be easily designed to have the platform-train interface step-free. With rural low-volume stations the barrier is how much money Network Rail or the responsible TOC wants to throw at the problem. Broome could be improved by altering the gate to one that is easier to open, or removing the gate/locking it open. The latter option is a minimal cost and removes a quite literal barrier to entry. Also, as said by Peter, Deepdene sucks.

How did you get your camera on the top corner of the shelter/waiting room? (7:55)

I've looked into the ramp gradient. Arriva Trains Wales list it as steeper than 1:20, definitely not the specified 1:12

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this: In typical me fashion (hazy understand of figures), I got my numbers the wrong way round. 🙁 My thought process being this: It doesn't look like either of those. I might "just" have got away with it, if it had been a shorter run, but certainly not every day/time of day. Now I want to go back and measure.

Come to do the least used station in merseyside which is Upton station on the arriva trains wales borderlands line from wrexham to Bidston nice little station :)

I'm an active wheelchair user, is shocking the gradient on incline. The gate (Why??). The surface of slope very poor. Think any independent wheelchair user would struggle. Is obvious that Network Rail have no vision when it comes to inclusion. Sarah is an independent & active wheelchair user who struggled - Network Rail need to up their game!

0:58 the kid on the left made me die 😂😂

There's good light in Broome.

Are all new stations built and renovated made wheelchair accessible? Would the inability to provide accessibility prevent the reopening or opening of new stations on less used services?

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

That's interesting. I would say that all new stations would have to be accessible, in accordance with legislation. For some places, the cost implication could possibly be considered too high, although it really shouldn't be that way, and being creative, could solve a lot of issues.

It looks like the public telephone's remains are right behind you at 7:51

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I thought so, based on the Wikipedia photo.

It does say on the National Rail Enquires website that the incline in greater than 1 in 20 and has a a gate with a top latch, goes on to say which stations nearby are fully accessible. Wether every station should have the investment to make then truly wheelchair accessible is a moot point, especially one that is so little used. Sarah is fortunate in that she can drive to an accessible station, perhaps if anyone else has to use this station then it might be more cost effective to be taken by taxi to nearest fully accessible station. This is just an observation so please be kind if you reply.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

Just had a look at this. Don't worry: absolutely fine to comment. I definitely don't have all the answers (merely a humble traveller). Yes, for me personally, I can use another station (when I'm well enough to drive), which isn't all the time, and yes: if it was affordable, a taxi could be an option. (There don't seem to be any buses) Someone else has commented that the expense of adapting certain stations may lead to closures. I've seen all sorts of things, good and bad, in the last few weeks, and I've come across some interesting solutions. It would be fantastic to have access at all stations, such wide ranging benefits: A case of "if you build it, they will use it". Always interested in ongoing debate. Thanks for commenting.

I've been rattling my brains as to why there needs to be a gate there at all - to keep the sheep/cattle out? Anyway, it needs resiting, or there needs to be a level section of the (currently too steep) incline so that the latch can be operated.

Accessibility is also a problem as you get older too many stairs or steep ramps can be a nightmare for the elderly

Wow that gate alone makes it impossible to access the platform or the street for a disabled person. 1. That grade will just result in someone landing on their face trying to go down it. 2. That gate will be impossible to open towards the person in a wheelchair if they're going downhill towards it (not withstanding the difficulties shown opening it going uphill) 3. The surface... Oh my goodness. NR/ATW sort it out!!!

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

It's terrible, isn't it? I thought I'd seen some things, but....

i know this is a channel about trains but i ship you two

Have the issues been addressed since this video was posted?

What music do you use

re Hpt unusual to see paving slabs like that on a platform

Maybe a new series? "All the Stations - Disabled Access all Areas?"

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

It's tempting.

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Or a much shorter series "All the Accessible Stations"

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

That was what I had in mind. I've also considered "Accessible Tube Challenge"

Update on the station? have they made necessary changes?

I often wonder when somewhere is claimed to be accessible have they actually had people with accessibility issues test it

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

So true: There are plenty of people who'd willingly be involved.

I feel like it might be more accessible going the other way.

I see someone has now edited the Wikipedia article and referenced this video as a source :-)

does kings sutton have salt bins

66% of people who have watched this have liked it. When's the least used station in Devon?

I assume you'll be contacting the TOC directly to report the lack of accessibility?

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

I've been talking to them about it since. It's just awful.

@WiggyWigmoreUK

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for following up! It's bad enough having stations that aren't accessible, let alone ones that are advertised as being okay. And don't get me started with the 'policy' that leaked out from GTR the other week... they shouldn't schedule their trains so closely if they aren't suitable for those requiring extra assistance. What they'd stated was digusting.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Yes, that was truly dreadful.

You should do least used Gloucestershire

Any thoughts on doing a least used video with a blind/partially sighted person?

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

That would be really interesting, wouldn't it? So important to represent all needs, and consider what might help. Sometimes, places think that putting in a ramp is all that they need to do!

@rjl1v07

6 жыл бұрын

It’s all about tactile paving! Your excellent video highlights how far Network Rail has to go to make UK railway stations truly accessible for all. Especially at unmanned stations!

i won't be the first last, or only person saying this and of course you can't drag Sarah everywhere but accessibility could well be a new consideration when featuring stations. I noticed also that there seemed be cracks and potential hazards on the platform itself.

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

The platform really did look like it could benefit from re-surfacing. One of the "bad" areas being where the phone box and help point had been removed. There have been many occasions lately, where I've wished that I had a 'ride along' person, to film some of the things that I've come across!

@garywoolton1875

6 жыл бұрын

Sarah Ward someone could attach a dash cam to the chair. I am sure you would not look daft wearing it on your head if necessary 😀

@SarahGoesPlaces

6 жыл бұрын

This has been considered. 🙂 I have a (small) Gorilla Pod, which holds my phone/a camera, but really a Go-Pro would be more the thing. I could always borrow a cycle helmet cam...

the HST has been around for over 40 years ...and its been a mainstay for inter city travel for that 40 years ...so why are we not building new HST .s instead of the class 91's and the unexciting 800 hitatchi.s

@norbitonflyer5625

6 жыл бұрын

Class 91s are themselves 30 years old