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@KenwayJoel

3 күн бұрын

That ground news seems close to a genuinely even split of news sources across the board. I can honestly say for the first time ever, I am actually going to look at a sponsor from a KZread video after this. I've very curious now.

@steveosborne2297

2 күн бұрын

There was no mention of this lime green line carrying on from Hackney and then appearing to take over the central line Leytonstone all the way up to Epping ?!?!!

@laserhawk64

5 сағат бұрын

IMO the best name for that Euston-Kings'-Cross-St-Pancas-Golly-Gee-Whiz station is "Disaster", because for anyone who has to catch a train in anything less than four hours' time, that's _exactly_ what it will be.

As a Project Manager within Construction and Infrastructure with 10 years experience, Crossrail 2 is desperately needed (along with other major infrastructure investment). The U.K's ability to futureproof is awful, as no current government wants to commit to £bns in infrastructure spending for 10-20+ years in the future which has no immediate political pay-off. That's fine in the short term, but when you do get 10-20+ years down the line you suddenly have a very big problem with no easy or quick solutions, and this inevitably results in downward spiral. Look at how successful Crossrail/Elizabeth Line has been since it's opening, almost no-one remembers that it was delayed by 4 years because it's delivering such a significant benefit to the Public! Britian as a nation is crying out for long-term strategic investment in our public assets which actually benefit us in the near and far future.

@TalesOfWar

3 күн бұрын

This is why HS2 being started then slashed in half and then cancelled beyond Phase 1A is such a massive f u to the British public. That was going to be infrastructure for the next 120 years worth of expansion like the West and East Coast Mainlines were in the Victorian era.

@Thesecret101-te1lm

3 күн бұрын

Since you are a planner, let me ask you something: Why does Crossrail 2 suggest building new tunnels for slow/stopping services relatively near to existing quad track railways, rather than building new cheaper tunnels for fast trains freeing up more capacity for slow and semi-fast suburban/regional trains on the existing quad track railways? Sure, the core section should absolutely be built with short distances between stations and be used by suburban trains, But next to places like Clapham Jn it seems like a good idea to swap so that the trains that runs in a new central core tunnel surfaces and uses the existing railway, while the fast trains that terminate at Victoria or Waterloo dives down and runs in tunnel outside Clapham Jn. (Or for that sake swap around which is in tunnel and which is not at Clapham Jn if there are any particular benefits for one or the other). Sure, there would be a need for emergency exits built if there are no or few stations along a long underground tunnel, but that must surely be way cheaper than building stations. Is this just due to it being politically easier to sell the idea of new stations to the general public? IIRC I've read arguments that close by the existing Southwestern quad track main line the population density isn't that high. But that can IMHO be seen as a reason for infill development and whatnot, and the existing state can also be seen as a result of not that great frequency at the suburban stations along the route.

@john1703

3 күн бұрын

And HS2 north of Brum. please. Stopping there is almost pointless. Extra capacity (for freight) is needed on the WCML. As for travel across the Pennines...

@paintedpilgrim

3 күн бұрын

I'd agree the UK is useless at future proofing, but it's more than time elsewhere got a bite of the money pie for transport. Many fully costed plans have been thrown out because of the demand in Londoncentric attitudes in parliament and by big business. Id argue that TfL and the Councils really ought to finance the planning stages themselves. But what is needed is a massive overhaul of the planning and finance of large long term construction project such as Cross Rail or Leeds Trams. Personally I'd support a plan that Central Government sponsors a set amount say 30% of any transit project, then the regional transit bodies sponsors another 40% from fares with councils giving the rest from a small levy on top of council tax much akin to what happened for the Olympics.

@TalesOfWar

3 күн бұрын

@@paintedpilgrim That's kind of how it works in London. London has independence in generating capital expenditure. No other part of England has that legal power and is thus almost entirely dependent on Treasury. London also has a lot of power in what happens compared to other regions. Manchester just got control of the busses again and will take control of regional trains by the end of the decade. It's a start, but Greater Manchester and the other city regions really should have TfL and Greater London style deregualtion for infrastructure projects. Everywhere outside of the M25 relies on Westminster, and they just aren't interested with things that far away. They aren't even interested in things within it most of the time either, they hate funding things and only do it begrudgingly because it'll benefit them in some direct way too. It's also worth pointing out that this government hasn't done a single large project. Crossrail was put into law by the last Labour government, so was HS2. Even the Olympics was done by the last government, they just happpened to have been built (or partly built then canned) by the Tories because they were kind of obligated to.

Megastation name: British Library

@recklessroges

3 күн бұрын

Oh yes! That's a far better name than the one that I thought of.

@nevreiha

3 күн бұрын

I'm imagining a neoclassical art deco structure, something between milano centrale and Terry gilliam's Brazil

@stephenlee5929

3 күн бұрын

Brilliant name for the Booking Hall 😊

@john1703

3 күн бұрын

Can I start a book on that name being chosen?

@johnmurray8428

3 күн бұрын

That would be the bookies favourite. But a super choice.

One of the few underground railways in London that has nothing to do with either UERL or myself.

@prismaticmarcus

3 күн бұрын

hang on! i know you!

@TheGregcellent

3 күн бұрын

Big Chucky Yerkes the GOAT 🐐

@SportyMabamba

3 күн бұрын

You just need to possess the Crossrail 2 CEO and then you’ll be back in the arena, Mr Yerkes 💪

As a homage to Judge Dredd of 2000 AD, the station should be styled simply as 'Mega Terminus One'

@ajaxengineco

3 күн бұрын

I was gonna say 'Mega Station One' for much the same reason.

*This project really deserves to be re-energised asap.*

@adsadam1

3 күн бұрын

Changing government will be the only thing that gives that a chance, so here's hoping

@zhongcena

3 күн бұрын

@@adsadam1 Changqing..??? Do you mean Chongqing??? But that has nothing to do with this???

@zhongcena

3 күн бұрын

just realised it's "changing" 😭 Wow I am dumb sometimes

@chemistmanuk

3 күн бұрын

Yes, to hell with anything north of Watford, let’s keep all our money for new infrastructure in London. (sarcasm BTW).

@adsadam1

3 күн бұрын

@@chemistmanuk we need both. We need another city in the UK to increase dramatically and have things pushed away from London to there, like Manchester ideally

Surely in true British fashion the mega station should be called “Mornington Crescent”. The only safe way to properly confuse visitors, but of course only when no-one plans to use tobermory’s stratagem.

With Euston, King's Cross & St Pancras combined, you might as well just call it "London Central".

@highpath4776

3 күн бұрын

Except it is in NW Central London , wasnt served by Great Central (but is by Grand Central) and doesnt have the Central Line going through it. It is probably best called North Midtown

@Rohan-iq6zb

3 күн бұрын

Or London Interchange

@synchromystici5m

3 күн бұрын

​@@highpath4776 Midtown???

@thegreenguy5555

2 күн бұрын

​@@highpath4776 A "central station" doesn't have to be in the city centre. It meant it is the main and most important station.

@JamesBrown-zu8iv

2 күн бұрын

How about; "London Camden, Euston, and St.Pancras International Cross Station"(?)

5:11 Oh, this is the London Hauptbahnhof plan I have heard about.

@ospero7681

3 күн бұрын

Since no actual London Central Station is ever going to happen, this might be as close as we're getting to that, so that perfectly good name might as well be used for this (if it ever actually does happen).

@user-lp5wb2rb3v

20 сағат бұрын

@@ospero7681 TCR would be central, if you have a "CR3" Milton keynes to Euston/Baker street to Cannon street which branches to bermondsey or C2Ctakeover

@jmusic2024

17 сағат бұрын

yes! voting for London Hbf

Euston St Pancras should be known as Jago Junction, naturally.

@gryff8400

3 күн бұрын

☝️This 💯👍

Megastation name : Long Walk.

Of course it should go via Balham, which is after all the "Gateway to the South"

@PJWey

3 күн бұрын

Spams off luv!

@ACELog

3 күн бұрын

🤣

@markiangooley

3 күн бұрын

Written by Muir and Norden, best comedy writing duo ever. The original performance had Peter Sellers as the main voice; the record album version was all Sellers I think.

@icenijohn2

3 күн бұрын

@@markiangooley I used to have a Peter Ustinov record with "Balham, Gateway To The South" narrated in his inimitable style.

@JamesBrown-zu8iv

2 күн бұрын

Although 1 Station could spell one chosen between Tooting Broadway and Balham, at the moment. Why not do both between Clapham Junction and Wimbledon, (however Earlsfield own South Western Railway (Metro though)), [e.g.] from Clapham Junction towards Balham, Tooting Broadway, and Wimbledon. I just thought a reason enough timing, unfortunately as the Main Line Fast, where they go somewhere like Fast Wimbledon Tunnel(?).

I live in New Southgate. I’ve held onto hope all this time. This video title is the final dagger in my heart.

@MakeSomeNoiseAgencyPlaylists

3 күн бұрын

I am Gareth Southgate and not a football coach

@SportyMabamba

3 күн бұрын

>Lives in New Southgate I’m sorry, I’m _so_ sorry

@Smart1529

3 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that my friend. In face I have friends who live near there and Wood Green so it sucks to hear that news.

That mega-station could have a working title of St Jude's , said feller being the saint of lost causes. The routes would be very useful to me, around Tooting, Clapham, Balham etc. If it wasn't for the fact that I have moved to Edinburgh

It’s a shame they pulled the plug on this one, even as planned it missed the genuine opportunity to connect other parts of London directly to Stansted Airport without having to fight to Liverpool Street, Tottenham Hale or Stratford. It could also have run 24hr for that purpose and helped to greenify/cheapify those getting to Stansted for the horrific 06:00 Ryanair flights, avoiding the £120+ minicabs to catch your £9.99 flight (+£38 carry-on, +£60 suitcase, +£12 seat reservation, +£13-78 air passenger duty… oh no I’m getting carried away).

@kbtred51

2 күн бұрын

by a 737

2:50 - Wood Green is what Haringey council wanted because it would give them a good reason to spaff millions re-re-developing Shopping City but TFL (I believe) always wanted Turnpike Lane and Ally Pally because those stations serve far, far more residents who would travel for work

@kitfagan2027

3 күн бұрын

Not just that but it would relieve services on the Northern City Line and Moorgate during events at Alexandra Palace. Last time I was getting home from a concert there it was a close call on whether I'd get in to central London before the last train home.

I think the mega-terminal should either be called Dave, or Station McStationface.

@larsmathiesen8999

3 күн бұрын

I agree (offcource Dave is only used when you are to drunk to remember real names ;) )

@apolloc.vermouth5672

3 күн бұрын

Stationopolis? Stationzilla....?

@emjayay

3 күн бұрын

Mega Station McStationface? Terminus McTurminusface? (No, I was too already thinking about those alright?)

I also propose that if Crossrail 2 were ever built, it should be named after our present King and be called Line of Charlie.

@Cowman9791

3 күн бұрын

But at this rate, it would probably have to be the William line (unless it gets the nickname of the Willy line, maybe then reconsideration might be needed) or the George line, given Charles will probably be long dead by the time it finally gets built.

@heli-crewhgs5285

3 күн бұрын

If ever a line is named after the present monarch, it should be called the ‘Charleston Line.’ Yes, I do acknowledge your cocaine-based gag!

@timeywimeyproductions

3 күн бұрын

A Line of Charlie is already something most people take in London anyway

@emjayay

3 күн бұрын

@@timeywimeyproductions I didn't know that was a slang word for blow.

@clintonepps3666

Күн бұрын

It would be nice to name a line after lady diane as she was the peoples queen unlike lizzi the lizard

Euston-St Pancras should obviously be called London Union Station.

@stever4899

3 күн бұрын

Or what does Shibuya mean in English?

@egg_musubi

3 күн бұрын

@@stever4899 It directly translates to "Tan/Bitter Valley," which is sort of anticlimactic. There are many tan/bitter people in London though.

@tarquinmcbeard

2 күн бұрын

Or call it King SPancton

@JamesBrown-zu8iv

2 күн бұрын

However, without Link B as between HS1 + HS2 will use a station share if it isn't enough.

We bought our place in Angel in 2016 and I'm lucky enough to say that I can't really imagine ever moving again until potentially retirement, thankfully a good few decades away, or something unexpected happening with the children - Crossrail 2 was on my radar when we made the purchase. I'd love for it to happen. I've loved watching London change over my lifetime, and Crossrail 1 was a genuinely exciting development. Long gone are my childhood sci-fi dreams of society moving into the stars, and instead stuff like genuinely new game changing infrastructure is one of the few achievable developments I'll get to see and enjoy. Lord knows everything else seems to be sliding the other way.

@Name-iq8te

3 күн бұрын

awwww i would so love to live there, maybe one day

6:57 the reason the northern line extension didn’t get extended to CJ was more because the northern line wouldn’t be able to handle it rather than CJ station itself. The trains would just get crush loaded right at the start, and no one would then be able to use the trains from there at all the intermediate stations

@iankemp1131

2 күн бұрын

Interesting thought. However, I've often wondered why people would want to change on to the Northern Line at CJ. From SWR they could just carry on into Waterloo which is quicker and has more NL trains, and from Southern there are generally good alternative routes available from Victoria. The NL could handle the numbers changing from the Overground.

@jasonhaven7170

19 сағат бұрын

@@iankemp1131 People prefer the Tube

@iankemp1131

15 сағат бұрын

@@jasonhaven7170 For some journeys, not for others. For example, most people coming from the southern suburbs and further afield go into Victoria rather than change onto the Northern line at Balham. Similar things would apply to people on suburban or long distance train into Waterloo - it's quicker and more pleasant to carry on into the terminus rather than getting off at Clapham Junction and taking the tube from there (if one existed). There are exceptions; Finsbury Park is a more convenient interchange between tube and National Rail than the Kings Cross labyrinth.

With the number of interchanges available at King's Pancras Saint Euston they'd have to start announcing it before they've even departed angel. I appreciate the many disclaimers about routes being underserved ***in a london context***, i will indeed not start (today)

@jackiespeel6343

3 күн бұрын

I remember once going on a train to Colchester: the driver announced on the approach 'If you wish to go to [a] change at Colchester... [repeat several times for locations b, c, d...]' Driver realises what he is saying and then continues 'In fact, if you wish to go anywhere other than Colchester Town Station, change at Colchester.'

@Alto53

2 күн бұрын

Assuming Euston is integrated with Euston Square and that the Northern line is split at this point: This is a Crossrail 2 service for Shepperton, next station... Euston St. Pancras. Change here for the Victoria, Northern and Southern lines and the London Overground from Euston; the Circle, Hammersmith and City, Metropolitan and Piccadily lines from King's Cross St. Pancras; as well as for Thameslink from St. Pancras and national and international rail services. This station has step-free access.

I think the best name for the new megatermius formed by adding Euston to the King's Cross - St Pancras complex would have to be LABYRINTH FROM HELL. It would be worse than Bank - Monument: people would go in and never manage to get out again, and their dessicated bodies would be found years later by archaeologists.

The Euston/St Pancras megastation should, of course, be named simply ‘London Hauptbahnhof’

@stewartclark2137

3 күн бұрын

It cannot be an Hauptbahof as it translates to 'Highlineyard'. I think that a better name for the OvergrounD would be 'S bahn' though

@lazrseagull54

3 күн бұрын

​@@stewartclark2137 I agree entirely! The overground, Elizabeth line and all suburban railways in the London area are the S Bahn London and the tube and DLR are the U Bahn London.

@mosaloquendo

3 күн бұрын

Just go with Central Station

@yoironfistbro8128

3 күн бұрын

That's an odd way of spelling "London Centraal"

@biscuit715

3 күн бұрын

Surely then it should be Londoon​@@yoironfistbro8128

I propose the megastation should be called 'That London'.

It unites multiple differnt lines and stations and connects them all to the rest of the continent? European Union Station 🤩

@neilyoungman9814

3 сағат бұрын

Euston for short?

Call Euston-King's X-St Pancras just simply "London Somers Town" in honour of the only part of London surrounded by the 3.

Crossrail (Taylor’s Version) 😛

Call it North City Grand Interchange. I don't see CR2 ever starting in Harlow at its north end. It was always going to be Broxbourne, as there is an unused 6 lane yard there, with space to add as many new lanes in the yard that they need for stabling and maintenance. The station would need a big rebuild, but there is space for that as well.

Purple Trains Beneath the Streets of Chelsea sounds like a good acid trip, or at least an intriguing book title. :)

Call the new station ‘London Central’

@sglenny001

3 күн бұрын

Clean and efficient

@AndreiTupolev

3 күн бұрын

That's a bus company

@andyroth619

3 күн бұрын

LondONE

@polythenewrappedme6102

3 күн бұрын

@oc3phish07. London Central was my thoughts exactly. Well done.

@Chevy-jordan

3 күн бұрын

That’s not in central London. How about ‘Grand London’ Station

I’ve always been invested in the chaos around Crossrail

@TheEnglishRedneck45

2 күн бұрын

As taxpayers, haven't we all been? 😂

Crossrail 2 or "we really really want it and need it but will probably not live to see it." As for the Mega-station I would say either St Pancras Interchange or London Grafton, both nods to the heritage of the area

@highpath4776

3 күн бұрын

But the Grafton Arms are in Victoria

@SmudgeThomas

3 күн бұрын

​@highpath4776 The Earl of Euston is the Duke of Grafton's son or other heir. So one up from Euston in rank and importance should logically be Grafton.

It should be called British Libary

@dougbamford

3 күн бұрын

I like this - very educational!

If Crossrail 2 was given the go ahead after next week then it would be finished in about 2050!

@user-sd3ik9rt6d

3 күн бұрын

I for one don't plan on being alive that long and why should I build something that my children could use. /Sarcasm

@kevinobyrne5

3 күн бұрын

A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit

@Beatlefan67

2 күн бұрын

@@kevinobyrne5 Ooh; that's a nice one.

Im not a london local but from what i understand this would be amazing

Suggested name for Euston St Pancras Megaterminus - The Long March Travelator Replacement Service. You're welcome.

I chuckled at the two subtitles "By London standards, don't start". Although it is only two miles away, I last travelled by train from my local station in 1980, so it is good to know that at least some metropolitan types realise the irony of building or not building Crossrail 2 for us oiks here in the Midlands.

“Euston St Pancras” is currently called Euston Road…. Via The Rocket pub usually!

@SportyMabamba

3 күн бұрын

And the Doric Arch, &c., &c.

@loftlegacy

3 күн бұрын

@@SportyMabamba find it’s a bit warm in there and prefer The Rocket.

@SportyMabamba

3 күн бұрын

@@loftlegacy yeah I don’t rate it particularly highly but need it for 100% completion of a Euston Mile 🤣

@loftlegacy

3 күн бұрын

@@SportyMabamba better than paying £7.80 for a pint in Euston station!

London is missing a central station, and the city rail network is mainly connected by the Elizabeth line and Thameslink. I really like the idea of a big station connecting multiple mainlines in London to one hub. I would like it to be called "London Central".

the new mega-terminal should be London-mian similar to how many train stations in the European continent is called something like Berlin hauptbahnhof

@lazrseagull54

3 күн бұрын

In Newcastle, Glasgow and Cardiff the main train station is called "Central station" and in Birmingham, it's called "Grand Central station" like the one in New York but I do think it would be nice if the main station in each city could be called Central station as standard.

@tld8102

3 күн бұрын

@@lazrseagull54 or... for the shits and giggle. We litterally call it londen haupbahnhof.

Looks like this line is still very much needed despite being called off. Thanks for creating this portrait of it, what it could be, and what it might be if Londoners did not have to wait until they get another Queen to name it after before the line will be built.

Ah the longed for Weymouth to Harlow Town link would also fit this line. ☺️

Great one Jago. In my opinion as much as it's needed and even if it was approved by parliament, it would take a very long time im looking at you HS2

I live in Enfield, and so frequent the Greater Anglia lines that run into Liverpool St. and Stratford a lot. It's worth mentioning that when Angel was closed down and Meridian Water was built to replace it - Meridian Water was built to Crossrail Specifications, ready for when the rest of Crossrail 2 was built. The same applies for Tottenham Hale and Northumberland Park when they were recently upgraded, they are all ready for Crossrail 2, which would reduce the time taken to build the line if and when it happens. My vote for the Mega Station at Euston/Kings Cross/St. Pancras is "Mega Station" - I wonder if they'd be brave enough to use it!

I need a "*by Paris standards, don't start." anytime I discuss the Paris metro too lol

I think it should be called the Albert Line. I'm speculating that this will be the name of Prince George's first son, who it'll be posthumously named after.

@Cowman9791

3 күн бұрын

I suppose though that depends on whether they are first in line. If they are first in line, George might want to go with a more regal sounding name, such as to maintain some continuity with past monarchs, and I'm not sure whether he would want a first. By all means though, if George has a daughter first and that son is the spare, it doesn't really matter.

@brick6347

3 күн бұрын

​@@Cowman9791maybe. Though we've _sort of_ had an Albert. Edward VIII was christened Albert Edward, so not unprecedented.

@brick6347

3 күн бұрын

VII. Oops

@jackiespeel6343

3 күн бұрын

@@Cowman9791 Perhaps Charles IV (Henry and Edward are 'already many' with George (and James in Scotland) close behind; all three Richards died untimely; Stephen and John were Bad Kings (a la 1066 and all that).

@telhudson863

3 күн бұрын

King George VI was an Albert before choosing George as his regnal name.

Brilliant video sir!

Interesting to hear it’s not happening. London Boroughs are still charging a Community Infrastructure Levy on new developments, specifically to fund Crossrail2.

London Grand Central. And I say that as a serious rather than a facetious suggestion, as a nod to the American DNA of the Tube.

@roboftherock

3 күн бұрын

Ah, but this isn't a Tube line. Its DNA isn't that of Yerkes et al, at all

@lazrseagull54

3 күн бұрын

Birmingham did that.

@paulhaynes8045

3 күн бұрын

Why 'London'? Just 'Grand Central' should do. If people don't know which city they're in, they probably shouldn't be looking to take a train...

@bluemountain4181

3 күн бұрын

@@paulhaynes8045 Because people will be getting the train from outside London so they need to know what city it's going to. Same reason that in airports signs say London Heathrow rather than just Heathrow

@emjayay

3 күн бұрын

@@bluemountain4181 Well, it's just barely in London.

A brilliant exposition of the current state of Crossrail 2. We can only hope.

Just that link from Leytonstone to Homerton in the early plan has been a dream of mine since moving that way. I look forward to a dedicated video

By the time Crossrail II happens it will probably be called the Charlotte line. As for the name for E.St.P.K.X. ? East Park Junction in North West One? "Clear as mud junction" lol. I think of E.St.P&KX as being in north London (NW1) but for most people it is quite central.

Well, thank you Jago - you published this on my birthday and the proposed line starts at Broxbourne, where I grew up. How apropos.

I once had the best tasting cup of tea of my life at Somerset Park. New stand looks good... all the better for keeping the terracing.

For the "Mega Terminus" the obvious would be "London International". Its a bit dull though. (I quite like the "Hauptbahnhof" sugestion above) Nice shot from Seaford beach towards Newhaven port and the Seaford Head. Nostalgia for me.

@DeeZedEx

3 күн бұрын

London central station

@pklongutoobe

3 күн бұрын

I already have a ticket to London International for a couple of weeks time

@Rohan-iq6zb

3 күн бұрын

London Interchange could work

@pklongutoobe

3 күн бұрын

@@Rohan-iq6zb you can't make London sound like Bradford :P

My suggestion for the megajunction station's name is King Alfred the Great Station, since he seems to be the only British king to be called 'the Great,' as well as being a good aspirational name to the designers to live up to, or the passengers to be disappointed by.

And yet still no tfl services to the Southeast. Lol

@JamesBrown-zu8iv

2 күн бұрын

We could name new lines with share links with. As far as HSUK Map planning was; 'Westlink' is a name from Thameslink 3 from between Euston St.Pancras and London Bridge via Tottenham Court Road, CharingCross, and Waterloo. Maybe any name for what's new from Crossrail 3 (4, or 5 beyond something...) by where we know(?), like between New Cross (Southeastern) / New Cross Gate (Southern) and wherever in Barking (C2C) or from TCR/Euston St.Pancras into London Marylebone Stn to rejoice (Chilterns Railway).

another amazing video from the greatest guy on earth

The people of South West London and Surrey really must push for the Tooting Broadway option for Crossrail 2 to be brought back. St George's Hospital is the major Accident & Emergency hospital for the entire region. Having Crossrail 2 go to Tooting Broadway will literally be the difference between people being able to say goodbye to relatives that have serious accidents...and not being able to make it to the hospital on time. There should even be a second entrance build close to the hospital itself.

My vote for the mega-station name would be just call it "London" as it would be THE definitive London station, where you come in from most of the country and abroad, connects to most of the tube, and would be just painful and confusing enough as well.

@leisti

3 күн бұрын

Not a bad idea, actually.

@Croz89

3 күн бұрын

The Tokyo option.

Megastation name: Brill Place, which is just nearby, then they would have to make it brill.

Most informative, Jago! Eustpkingx Central doesn't exactly roll off the tongue I guess... Can't argue with a Swift newsfeed blockage... Cherrio!

Wait until we get to see Crossrail 3. Now that is a project. 😮

Alexandra Palace was called Wood Green originally, and is reached from the main centre of Wood Green using "Station Road"

First London railway terminus was 1836, "London Terminus" will do just fine for a name.

@emjayay

3 күн бұрын

London Megaterminus.

@marcusvictor1559

Күн бұрын

@@emjayay London Termini

Wow I came across the repurposed Michelin place at 6:20 just walking to the V&A. Obviously the perfect entrance station for underground trains.

Megastation name: Holy Trinity. After the Grade 1 listed church on Euston Road opposite.

5:04 The link to Crossrail 2/ChelHack Line is already here at Angel the landing and curve corridor between the loooong escalator and the short one is where the foot tunnels would run

Good one jago 👍

My Megastation name suggestions;- Macaroni Junction. Junction Station International Underground Terminus (descriptive). Confabulation Station (or WTF Junction). London International Museum of Tunneling, Architecture, and Maze Design. Quatermass Station (aka The Pit). The Warren (obvious). The Mapmakers Nightmare (that many lines through that small a space? Yeesh). The Ratsnest ('cause that's what it'll look like). The Magic Rail-go-round (you're never quite certain where you'll end up). "Bob". Ye Olde Tourist Confuzzulator (tourists go in, but they never leave). Grand Central Station (just to annoy the Yanks - Grand Union Station would do the job just as well).

The obvious name for the new super station would seem to be Hubby McHubface. Well, someone had to suggest it so we could then get on with our lives.

A few years ago (not that long though) I attended a presentation for Heritage Railway Awards hosted by John Hendy (now Baron Hendy) He was most eloquent and informed (obviously) and was a joy to listen to. Crossrail was pending (well, sort of, it was just pre-covid) and he told of how once the dust had settled around C1, after just a few weeks, plans would be started for C2! Whether or not that was W-E again or N-S I'm not sure now. Could there have been another planned W-E?

This has to happen 😔 also Jago! I know this would be a real faff but are you ever planning to do a video on the old Liverpool Overhead Railway? Elevated lines are so cool, it's such a shame it's gone

Hope to see a Jago Hazzard video on the opening of Crossrail2! Re station: maybe Grand Central - both as it links several grand old stations & is the HS2 terminus (the successor to the Grand Central Line)

The prospect of Clapham Junction becoming a sort of Shibuya I actually quite like! As for Eus-Panc-Cross - my only (boring) idea is ‘London Central’. A great city should have lots of rail terminals. They should all have enchanting names and unique identities, even if it should also be easy to seamlessly navigate between them.

On the topic of rail lines and development round Clapham Junction, have you ever thought of making a video on the redevelopment of Vauxhall, Nine Elms and the Cold Storage? Such a fascinating area of London.

Thanks for the views of Seaford Bay during you commercial

I'd think that if we were combining King's Cross, St Pancras, and Euston into a single megastation, we should really be having a discussion about calling that something like London Central or London Union. Such a station would be by far the busiest station in the country, beating out Liverpool Street by nearly 10 million annual boardings and alightings in 2023. And with that many connections I think if any station had a claim to be THE London station, it'd be that one, being able to catch trains going basically everywhere as you said.

This is a great video! (*by KZread standards, don't start)

The Swifties will be coming for Jago!

@TalesOfWar

3 күн бұрын

I'd love to see that Venn diagram of Swifties in to Jago based shenanigans.

What should we call this new mega-station interchange? My vote would be *Somers Town* because that's the name of the area it will be in. Doesn't matter that it makes no reference to any of the stations it links to, doesn't matter that it's susceptible to various different misspellings, doesn't matter that no-one has heard of it, let's do it for a laugh 😜

I'd have thought something like "North London International," or "London International Exchange," would be a good name for the Euston/St Pancras/KX station as it needs to mean something to people from outside of London, as well as those that are more familiar with it. A rebuilt Clapham Junction might also be renamed "South London Exchange," or, more facetiously, "Chelsea Parkway..." 😁🤣🤣🤣😆

2:15 - An interesting point is that the new Meridian Water station was built with passive provision for Crossrail 2 - space for tracks and the platforms were reserved and the pedestrian bridge is wide enough to accomodate this as well. 6:30 - The only reason holding the Northern Line back from Clapham Junction is the lack of Crossrail 2. Crossrail 2 would alleviate some of the pressure on the Northern Line, otherwise the trains would be packed at Clapham junction and unable to take on passengers at Nine Elms and Battersea Power. The alignment underneath Battersea Park is reserved and should Crossrail 2 get the go ahead, Northern Line Extension 2: Electric Boogaloo should get the go ahead.

I suggest London Exchange

I'm quite surprised the North Sheen-Mortlake-Barnes-Putney-Wandsworth Town section is not gonna be included in Crossrail 2 if it gets built

A pity the line from Northumberland Pk via Wood Green to Alexandre Palace (Palace Gates) was ever decommisioned.

I wish the CR project was bigger. Phase 1: Easiest first change would be having 4 PARALLEL TRACKS in the core section from Whitechapel to Paddington GWML would be upgraded to 6/8 tracks with the acton mainline closed and OOC on the northern tracks (ie OOC is a through station with say 24 platforms, 4-6 dedicated to GWML/ CR) Now, 4 tracks two platforms (one for each direction) from Ealing Broadway to Maidenhead. Same thing on the opposite end Stratford to Chelmsford (yes extend it atleast that far, and definitely extend to Gravesend minimum) West to East: Fast ie Reading and OOC only (all stations to Chelmsford) East to West : Fast ie Chelmsford and Stratford only (all stations to Reading ) semifast: Reading > Maidenhead > Slough > OOC > (all stations) > Stratford > Romford> Shenfield > Chelmsford Phase 2: The branch from Gravesend to Heathrow, call at all stations, and have fast/ semifast services also "heathrow express" becomes "Heathrow Connect " which does the following: Windsor royal station (loop from slough to HT5 then back to windsor) Connection to Staines, Chertsey and Virginia water > continues to Reading (either via slough or via wokingham)/ Southampton/ all stations to Ashford International (via Guildford). Phase 3: CR2 from Wimbledon, Clapham Junction Victoria and TCR then city Thameslink and continue Fleet line and C2C takeover Stratford to Stanstead/ Hertford east Also Milton keynes to OOC Stratford/ OOC to Gatwick calling ONLY at Lewisham/ Clapham and Croydon Phase 4: South of the Thames Combine Southern, Southeastern into Thameslink Overground takes over all stations in london borough Stations that are 5-10 miles from the M25 will have fast/ semi fast services to London bridge/ Victoria (continuing to Cannon street / Charing cross) Phase 5: "CR3" HS2 ooc> Euston> TCR>EC> BLE You literally end up with no need for a "crossrail 2" untill 2040s probably, and massive capacity increases to all of London commuters (probably cheaper than CR1+CR2)

My suggestion for the proposed mega-terminal is 'Pandemonium', in that it would be both the capital of Hell and a place of wild disorder and uproar.

6:42 my understanding of the Northern proposal was that the line, at present, does not have the capacity to absorb new passengers into Zone 1.

this might just be my selfishness wanting a more convenient station for where I live, but I think adding a stop at Stoke Newington would be useful, as it would still maintain a very large stop spacing (2km from stoke newington to dalston and stoke newington to seven sisters - as opposed to the extremely large gap of 4km between dalston and seven sisters currently proposed), while also greatly improving transport links in hackney, which still has relatively poor rail links by inner london standards, adding 2 new stations rather than just the one at dalston (unless they do also build the branch to hackney central and onwards)

Berlin's best hub is Berlin Hauptbahnhof, so I think the mega terminus should be called London Central or just London.

@IndigoJo

3 күн бұрын

German cities have "Hauptbahnhof" stations because they're all medium-sized cities; Berlin has 3.6 million, and no other city there has more than 1.5m. London has 10m. This station does serve the north and would have suburban trains elsewhere, but mainline services to the south and west are still elsewhere.

@MarioFanGamer659

2 күн бұрын

@@IndigoJo The funny thing is that the Hauptbahnhof is a relatively new station and Berlin used to rely on various termini spread across the city. Before that, Ostbahnhof was the most important station (and still is today, since with its many platforms and through tracks, east-west trains can easily terminate there) and even then, its advantage was that it lied on the Stadtbahn. Ever since the Tierparktunnel was built (which allowed for North-South mainline service), its significance got diminished given that there is a now better station for intercity trains. Moreover, Berlin is big enough to support four more intercity stations (i.e. aside from Ostbahnhof, there also is Spandau, Gesundbrunnen and Südkreuz), roughly matching the many termini of Paris and London except they support through service.

I wouldn't mind it running to Epsom Downs, Southern have been a complete shambles recently.

Euston St Pancras. Easily the most high value target in an aerial bombing campaign. Well, that and Clapham Junction. Not sure Pevsner and Betjeman would go for this having seen how it played out earlier.

@EchoingHell

3 күн бұрын

"Easily the most high value target in an aerial bombing campaign." Name: Luftwaffe's Dream?

@grahamstubbs4962

3 күн бұрын

@@EchoingHell High five! 🙂

Im from the south west. This should get done. The other thing should be the full double track of Exeter to Salisbury

My suggestion for the new station between Euston & St Pancras would be "Northern and Continental" because that's where the main line trains it connects to go. It's not actually central (it's right on the edge of central London and is some distance from any attraction associated with central London) and it's not a Hauptbahnhof, a name applied to stations in German cities which mostly have no more than 1.5 million in population, rather than 10m as in London. Trains to the south and west (other than some suburban trains) do not call here.

London Main Station. Edit: my first thought was London Central Station but I don't know how 'Central' that station actually is. In German and Dutch we have 'hauptbahnhof' en 'hoofdstation' where it doesn't matter if it's actually central, it's still the most important station in a given city.

Grand Central would actually work for such a mega station!

I used to get the train in the morning from Angel Road, I guess since I moved to Cornwall they decided to get rid of it

3:39 - The fish probably all looking like Michael Gove!