A channel very loosely focused on London, trains, history and combinations thereof. Videos about the London Underground, steam trains, the history of London, architecture and other things that take my fancy. Sometimes there are jokes. How are you?
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I found this format intriguing Jago. A hybrid of travel video, survivor and history lesson. Way cool. Thanks.
8:06 Don’t you mean Blackhorse Lane?
4:55 strange audio and visual blip there 🧐
4:55 Strange audio and visual blip there 🧐
Two points: (1) If you want to use that Readly link, disable your ad-blocker first. Mine treats the whole Readly website as one huge advertisement. (2) It would have been very useful to show a map (not a diagram) of the area from Liverpool Street to Addiscombe, and overlay on that map two distinctively coloured lines. One would depict the original route, the other the convoluted journey you had to take. If, as you mentioned, this is intended to be the first in an occasional series, perhaps you could do this in future episodes.
I initially thought the reference to Essex Live at the start was going to be the segue into the Ground News as, despite the bit it was in being dangerously slight.
Would I use the line if it still existed? I have had to travel to Addiscombe about four times during my lifetime, and had that route existed , I would almost certainly have used it. Nowadays I would get the bust from Liverpool Street to London Bridge, and travel from there to Addiscombe via East Croydon. Journey time from London Bridge less than half an hour.
I remember a service in British Rail days that went from Millom to Cambridge
"I sometimes think I'd like to do a video on Deptford Bridge......and I don't know why". 😂
I would consider the former timetabled journey 'Mansion House to Windsor'.
Jago aka the intelligent Geoff.
You're not weird - just differently normal
One of my current objectives is to visit the site of Addiscombe Road, I’ve not quite managed it yet. I’m definitely going to make reference to this video .
Train stations in india with the roundel use the space in the circles to write the name of the station in Hindi and the local language! I also remember some of the stations in and around Sydney's CBD using roundels.
You can here a Very Simular Noise from some Forklift Trucks that also use Thristors
While used mainly by goods/parcels trains, the Liv. Street-Shoreditch link (Bishopsgate Jcn.) was used by holiday/excursion trains from the LNER area to the Southern, trains reversed in Liv. St.
Have enjoyed your videos for some time, reminding of a rail system I formerly worked on. Now living in Perth WA, and would like see something on the line from London Bridge out to Forrest Hill / Sydenham way. Or what’s left of Crystal Palace (low level). Sorry to be long winded, keep your great work.
Few word’s missed, sorry for that.
Outer circle please. As a format should start with the old journey time, current recommended route & time, then the re-creation.
Cool
how about a campaign to reopen the line between Brick Lane and Liverpool Street as a shuttle service
What a sad state Shoreditch station building finds itself in. Shame that another use couldn't have been found for this historic structure.
As I’m from Ladywell it’s great seeing its station in one of your videos.
This month you can travel from Stratford to Fenchurch Street will you be filming that Mr Hazzard ?
Seems like the fastest and easiest route these days would be Elizabeth Line to Farringdon, Thameslink to East Croydon and then a bus and a quick walk to get to Addiscombe Station Park (takes 53-59 minutes depending on when you go). Not that many people actually want to go there. If you want to get to East Croydon (which is where most people actually want to go), it's only 37 minutes. I'm not sure the old route could compete with that. If you need to get from South East London to Croydon you have at least 3 alternative options now, so there would be no point in reinstating the route.
It might be interesting to see which journeys could, in theory, be re-instated and which route has the most removed track.
I tried the Readly link - shame it took us to "1 month free", not as described = not pursued!
Tubes are a specialised urban transit system designed to run in, well, tubes. So trundling through the countryside on one is scenic but not that practical (yes, I do use the central line to epping occasionally). I find it more convenient, comfortable and quicker to use the Stansted express from liv St. But I agree harlow could really use better local links. Getting from epping to Harlow by bus is a bit of a pain. Some kind of light rail sounds attractive but is there enough demand to make it cost-effective?
Watched until the mid video then just clicked off to something else as most now on here to it becomes unwatchable. Sorry.
You're not ""weird""I love your train videos. ❤
Yes ! but the ( linear street art ? ) is MUCH superior to that at Montpelier station in Bristol .... for a really weird lost train journey , try Crosslink ( Basingstoke to Norwich ) , why would you ? , probably quicker to walk ( ? ) ... DAVE™🛑
The tracks are still down at Spenser Road Halt, including the footbridge. The bridge is still maintained by Network Rail strangely.
I remember as a small boy living in Deptford in the 70s seeing the East London line trains serving New Cross and New Cross Gate - I couldn't work out how they managed to escape the tunnels.
8:05, don't you mean Blackhorse Lane?
I only used Heathrow Connect once (we flew back into Gatwick on the way home) but from my memory it was a perfectly good service, significantly faster than the Piccadilly line (even coming from halfway down the H&C) but significantly cheaper than Heathrow Express, which made it an obvious choice for us. I think the one I was on stopped at all the current Elizabeth Line stations, but I may have misremembered. For those traveling between the centre and Heathrow it filled exactly the same niche as the Elizabeth Line does now, just with a bit more planning and potentially an extra change. 25-30 minutes seems about right.
It's curious to see how railway companies tried to name stations after places that weren't really very close. Some got round it by suffixing "Road" (especially GWR). Sometimes a new settlement grew up barger than the namesake, such as Knebworth or Woking. In both cases the settlement was called "Knebworth / Woking Station". I have an old road map that still declares in capitals WOKING STATION!
Another problem is that they Heathrow Express does not serve terminal 4, and the Elizabeth line arrives in Paddington at the same time. The Heathrow Express is only faster for a few minutes every half hour if you take the Piccadilly line to terminals 2 and 3, they make a quick change of station.
LeviNZ presents his compliments and appreciates the clarity of the video...one can almost smell the rainy ground. Deptford was whence my very working class forebears sailed around mid November 1858 on the "Strathallan", the whole voyage taking around 90 days with the ship dropping anchor off the new settlement of Timaru in late Feb 1859.
As an Old Croydonian who grew up around Addiscombe and Elmers End I find these fascinating.
Sometimes what survives and what doesn't is a quirk of fate. You can't get a direct train from Liverpool St to Addiscombe BUT you can get a direct train from Shoreditch High St to West Croydon on the Overground.
Hello Jago, this new series is just a continuation of a previous video of yours kzread.info/dash/bejne/nmmjsJJxm9muY5M.html
Talk about making life difficult for yourself! Interesting though, thank you.
I used to get a train from Tottenham to Southend which went through Black Horse Road back I the late 50s to early 60s
When I lived in Lee I once caught a train from Bromley to Stafford direct. I think it started at Folkestone or Dover.
Boring? No Jago, it sounds quite the opposite.
All in my area - Rotherhithe... great video.
I always look out for the old diamond roundel at Moorgate Station when passing through, sad, I know.
“Because I’m weird like that.” Yes. Yes, your are. That’s what’s cool about you. 😊 Cheers!
In 1979, I worked for a while, on a building site in Brick Lane and, living at East Ham, used to travel to and from work on the Underground changing at Whitechapel and using the East London line to Shoreditch which at the time was only open Monday to Friday rush hours; perfect for me. Sad to see the station building looking as it does now. In 1989, now living in Canning Town, I bought a guitar in Croydon and to get home, walked to Addiscombe; still a rather charming little terminus station in the 'burbs. Changing at NCG, I travelled from there to Whitechapel, so I too have done almost the entire route incrementally.
Wasn't Shoreditch also open Sunday mornings for the market? (Petticoat lane?)
@@cigmorfil4101 Could well be. I only remember it as being some kind of restricted service for sure; other details I've forgotten over the years as it was a very long time ago.
Some interesting Tube services that existed into this century are Upminster to Hammersmith (H&C), Acton Town to Barking via Edgware Road, Ealing Broadway to Edgware Road via Aldgate, Kensington Olympia to Baker Street via Aldgate, Barking to Edgware Road via Victoria and Plaistow to Harrow-on-the-Hill.
Have you already covered the middle circle? I remember standing at Latimer Road where you can still see the turn-off. I also remember when they first re-opened the West London Line, which but for that would be another good candidate for this video