The review is so detailed, Thank you!!

@johnnykeys939

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I appreciate your review and comments about the CP88, and enjoyed listening to your playing on it.

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much ^^

I'm thinking of getting one of these, as a well-needed (and well-deserved tbh) upgrade from my old P-115/PSR-S750 combo. I was looking into the Ck88, which is significantly cheaper, but there are a few things I just don't like about it. So I've stumbled upon this review of the CP88, and I think I'm finally convinced! I haven't made a final decision QUITE YET (as of the writing of this comment), and I'll think on it for another week or so-I just need to make the right decision, but like I said, I think the CP88 is the right choice for me. Great review!!

It's great!

@johnnyielts4107

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ^^

I'm drawn to this particularly due to the heavier, piano-like key action. Have you tried Korg's RH3 action or whatever action is on the Kawai MP models, and how do they compare if so?

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Korg RH-3 action is decent, but it doesnt have that solid acoustic-piano like feel. Also, the MP-11, if thats what you are referring to, has one of the heaviest action on the market but I havent had a chance to try them.

@duketranslucent3rd

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 Thanks!

Hi Johnny. Thank you for sharing your perspective on the CP-88. I am looking for a stage piano I can use for performing and recording classical music, jazz, and neo-classical music. I am choosing among the Roland RD-2000, Korg Grandstage, and the Yamaha CP-88. In terms of sound, MIDI control (VSTs and recording through a DAW), what do you think is best for my use case? Will appreciate your help.

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul. I think the RD-2000 is meant to be for studio more than the stage, and the CP88 is meant for stage performance, so I think the CP88 is your best choice. Sorry but I have no idea about the Korg Grandstage as I haven't tried it. If you are looking for a machine that is easy to use and portable, with great keybed and great sounds, then the CP88 is the clear winner.

@Hulk-Hulk

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 Thanks for your answer. I bought the CP88 and is coming on the way. I hope I enjoy it and never regret it. I bought it because of the piano sounds on KZread videos with the EP's as well..

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hulk-Hulk Hi. Please make sure you upgrade the version of your cp88 to the latest version, coz the 1.50 version provides a really good 'Hamburg grand' piano sample. I am sure you will love it.

@Hulk-Hulk

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 Sorry for the delay. I saw your response late because I have two KZread accounts and I did not check this account until yesterday. Thank you for your advise. Do you know how to upgrade the CP88? I'm new in this area. Maybe you can give me some advice and details how to do the process, if you don't mind, because I'm a rookie in programing keyboards. I will appreciate it 🙏

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hulk-Hulk Hi Leon, you need to have a USB stick (pen drive) to copy the downloaded files from your laptop/computer to your CP88. Please refer to this page: usa.yamaha.com/support/updates/cp88_cp73_os.html It is not difficult to do. I am not so good with technology but I managed to do it with relative ease. So good luck.

Nice playing Johnny. I like the cp88 so also bought one. Is it also the case with your cp88 that with a lot of reverb, noise (hissing noise) occurs in the higher frequency ranges (especially when using the depth knob)? or is it only with my cp88? Is this normal? Thanks for sharing your experience. Keep playing...

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Check your headphones or external speakers. It might be because of the Gain. There is a very small button called Gain at the back of the cp88, you should switch it to minimum, to prevent hissing or distortion. I do not experience what you said when I turned Reverb depth to maximum, but it might be because my Gain is minimum already

@pianostrings7793

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 thank's for your feedback. The small gain button is for Input gain and does not affect the output of the CP88. The hissing noise i mean is not continously like the gain hiss from speakers or amps. Its just aboute 1 second everytime i hit a key (its like a dynamicaly white noise), comparable with sample-noise from bad sampled VST-plugins (VST-instruments).

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

@@pianostrings7793 You should ask the store coz that is not normal ...

Do you use external amplification or just headphones? If so what do you recommend for it?

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

I use both... For external speakers, I am using a pair of Tannoy speakers, costing me roughly 210 usd. For headphones I am using a Beyerdynamic DT-880, which is a professional one.

Have you played the Korg Grandstage? I’m wondering how it compares to the CP88.

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I haven't had the chance to try that one out

Hi all, may i ask are the keybed loud? And how's the action compare to p515? Thanks

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Hi. The Cp88 and P515 have the exact same action. The keybed is quite loud but it is not as loud as the Roland pianos that I used to have. The action is really good, really close to an average Yamaha Grand piano.

@jazzsecrets

2 жыл бұрын

Keybed is not loud at all. Action is tiny lighter than p515.

Hi Johnny, you said that you prefer the acton of this piano compared to your previous Roland as the Yamaha is havier, I wonder if it is just a personal preference, as usually an acustic concert piano action is lighter and softer compared to a common upright piano...

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

That is correct. But this is how I feel with my Cp88, the action is really heavy.

@mega-driver

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 thanks to share your feedback

for a pianist, the kawai pm11se and a dexibell sx7 module is a dream.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

It depends though. For me, Kawai needs to improve their designs coz the Mp11se looks so ugly, bulky and cannot even be called "portable". But yes, the key action is really good on that one

great review, thank you. Do you have a swiffer dust remover? it would save your nice CP88 from dirt and dust! It looks better too! Thanks again :)

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I dont cover my CP88 with anything, so I would have to wipe off dust once every 2 days with a big paint brush or a piece of cloth.

@DAVID_PIANISTA_TELFORD_PA

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 HI, I DONT HAVE A COVER, SO, I COULD USE A BIG TOWEL TO COVER THE KEYBOARD. IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK WITH ALL THAT DUST ON THE GREAT KEYBOAD.

Thanks for a very thorough review on the most relevant features of this keyboard. I’m choosing between this and the RD2000 right now.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

Beware, the RD2000 is NOT an easy stage piano to control or to navigate. I struggled a lot with it before. I think it should be for a serious studio only.

@paulocorrea001

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 this is precisely the video I was needing. I am also deciding between this and the RD 2000. I couldn't try this one but I was told the keys were as the the yamaha p515. I tried the p515 and found the keybed of the rd2000 to be better. Thoughts? Thanks!

@johnnykeys939

Жыл бұрын

@@paulocorrea001 Even though P515 and CP88 both have the "Natural Wood keys" but I find the key feel on the CP88 much better, or it feels so much more solid and reliable. I have also tried the RD2000, the key bed is very rock solid and reliable but please understand that the RD2000 is not an easy machine to use, it is mainly for studios. The CP88 is for stage performance so it is much easier to use.

@paulocorrea001

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 thank u!

@johnnykeys939

Жыл бұрын

@@paulocorrea001 The P515 is inferior in sound and key feel to the CP88. And I bet the build quality of the CP88 is also much better because it is a Stage piano. It is supposed to be able to withstand a lot of gigging and road travelling. Let me know if you need to ask anything else.

I’m looking for something like the motif because the keys are soft but they don’t sell those so does anyone know what’s the newest version of the motif? I might go with cp88 but I want softer keys more like synth keys

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind the lesser amount of keys, then the 73-key version, the Yamaha CP73, has a softer keybed, better for synth, but you can still play piano on it.

@kylearce9914

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 nice I do need the 88 keys so I guess I’ll go with the cp88 have you heard of the yc88? If it’s similar it’s 2300$ used . just to save money if they are alike

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylearce9914 The YC88 has the same keybed as the CP88, and it is a bit newer too, but it is geared towards Synthesizers more than piano.

@libertylizard_

2 жыл бұрын

The YC88 is newer but unnecessary outside of a specific niche. The reason is because of the division between how you play organ and piano professionally. For a board of this price, it is a silly investment (other than certain players who understand the compromise/needs) to use a hybrid. The CP is manufactured by the Synthesizer department at Yamaha. The P515, which shares its key action (+ added escapement technology which is unique to it); is done instead by a different team (the one that builds and designs the Clavinova range). If you want a synth action the CP88 is not it. It has a weighted and graded hammer piano set. The smaller board is balanced across the keys but the action isn't great. If you want a very versatile, powerful synth board you could use the ModX as I do. Its action is reasonable - its tech however, straight out of the Montage and very sonically capable. I'd peg the Motif action as superior certainly - but of late, mid tier boards have suffered alot on the keybed front. It will always be a case of what you are paying for. Where Yamaha routinely fall down (all of the above) is organ sounds. Because of that + the keybed compromise, id recommend you use something different for those sounds. Take my advice as you will - but I believe the YC range is a waste of money for most people.

@libertylizard_

2 жыл бұрын

As a side note though; if you would like a good demonstration from a trained Pianist; you can place faith in a fellow student here. The RAM (Royal Academy) is one of our oldest music institutions within British performance arts. I'll link Belle's review for you so you can decide whether or not the CP88 is any good if you haven't seen it. After all its being played by some of the best musicians currently. She has experience playing the CFX as I do, which I view to be the best concert grand in the world. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZx7kpewns7fnc4.html you may find it useful, skip as necessary.

As far as the dust you should consider getting a dust cover for it. Either way, it looks like a nice keyboard.

Hi mates! A friend sells the cp88 for half the price! I am thinking if I may go wrong buying this instead of buying the modx 8... Please... Help me! I need mostly pianos, EPs, Clavinets, Strings, Pads, Guitars... Thank you! 🙏

Beautiful melody Johnny! I am thinking of getting this keyboard. Is there sheet music for this song somewhere?

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

This is a dream piano to have, but you must have headphones since it is a stage piano

@privateemail8605

3 жыл бұрын

Hey can you give me the name of the song at 15:45? Can I get sheet music some where?

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

@@privateemail8605 That song is 'Sing' by The Carpenters. My own version and there is no music sheet. However, you can donate to me to support so I can create a tutorial video if you want. Please contact me via the information on the video description below.

New fam here... From Muscat Oman

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Oscar well what?

Hi Johnny, excellent review as usual, and congratulations for the excellent keybed. Please tell me, did you try the P515, can you talk about the NWX against the NW-GH?. You said than Roland PHA-50 is stiff for you, but many people complaint tht the Yamaha wooden keys like NWX and NW-GH are very heavy with an insanely initial touchweight about 90 grs., and many people prefers PHA-50 due it is lighter than Yamaha, which is faster between PHA50 and NW-GH?. Finally, what do you think about PHA4 in new FP30X against this Yamaha CP88 key action?, which is faster, more confortable and more reliable?. Thanks!.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried the P515 so I cant tell. I felt that PHA-50 is just a bit rigid, too hard for the touch, maybe faster bounching back but it doesn't feel as nice and natural like the key action on my CP88. My keybed feels as heavy as a Yamaha grand piano mid-range, and it behaves exactly like it should, too. But you know, maybe I have been playing piano for too long and I need heavier keys, but you might feel that lighter keys are better for you. About the Roland FP-30X, they haven't imported it to Vietnam so I haven't had the chance to try it yet.

@ferdearmas8732

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 Thanks for reply!, and your CP88 keybed against Roland FP10?. Which key action is faster, more realisitic ad confortable?.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

@@ferdearmas8732 I believe that I had answered that question to you before, on my previous piano channel Huan Tran. The Roland FP-30 and FP-30X have exactly the same key action, and it is lighter, more flimsy, like a low-end acoustic piano key action, absolutely not comparable to a much more pricey model of Yamaha CP-88, which has a similar action to a Mid-range Grand piano of Yamaha. Of course you wouldn't find that answer acceptable... The action on Roland FP-30 and FP-30X should be more comfortable to play on for a long time since it consumes less of your energy, due to being lighter. I also do not see the difference in how fast or how slow, they are similar in that sense.

@ferdearmas8732

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 Thanks friend!, and which key action did you prefer between Roland PHA-4 Concert (RD800), and the Yamaha NW-GH present in your new CP88, and why?.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

@@ferdearmas8732 I like them both, lol. However, keep in mind that PHA-4 Concert feels more like an Upright acoustic piano from Yamaha, while the Natural Wood action of my CP-88 feels like a grand piano action from a mid-range Yamaha grand piano. They behaves a bit differrently though.

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@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

Nếu em thiên về Piano thì nên mua Cp88 nha, phím của nó rất sướng và nặng kinh luôn á, giống Yamaha U3. Còn nếu em thuần Synthesizer/Organ thì nên mua Cp73, phím Cp73 nghe nói nhẹ hơn nhưng linh hoạt và phù hợp với các bạn chơi synth hơn

@khunglongconduy

3 жыл бұрын

dạ em cảm ơn anh ☺️ mà cho em hỏi là anh có biết ở miền Nam Việt Nam có showroom nào cho test thử cây này không ạ??

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

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@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

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Recently purchased and sent my CP88 back. There was very noticeable keybed noise on every note while playing all piano samplings (even though the piano sounds were excellent). And the Ab above the octave plinked in stead of resonating. Musicians Friend took it back right away but, all in all a bad experience. Yamaha's has developed a slap together factory mentality and to save money really low balled the Keybed. Cheap aluminum frame as well. There are many great features on it but the above mentioned issue's were a deal breaker.

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting... Maybe you have got a defective unit... because even though the keybed is loud, I didnt notice any issue with the keys resonating or so

@davidmiller3652

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 Yes, the keybed is unecessarilly loud and the notes above plinking and not resonating were also deal breakers. Other purchasers have had the same issue's. Its not just the one I purchased. Sadly, Yamaha did not offer solutions and that is also a giant concern.

@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole

9 ай бұрын

But then what synth piano do you recommend instead of this $2,000+ keyboard?

Great review ! How would you compare this to the Kawai MP7se?

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

I havent been able to try Kawai MP7se, but in my experience, they would try to mimic the tough, heavy and hard Kawai keys so it would be more like a work out session more than an enjoyment, haha.

@libertylizard_

2 жыл бұрын

The MP7 is a vastly better stage instrument for band work than its sister the mp11se - however, this puts it into battle with many other manufacturers. Which isn't to say it wouldn't come out on top; rather that there are so many professional brands in this area that there is a high chance something else might be more suitable as well. The RH3 action fitted to the 7 I don't personally like. It's not bad; but it isn't as good as the GH3 action fitted to the 88, which is an advance over the former CP4 which it essentially replaces. If you are looking for a truly superb Piano feel you may be disappointed with the Mp7. The Rh3 is not in the same league as the NW-GH3 of the Yamaha or the GFI of the Kawai mp11. The Mp11se, has the kawai flagship grand feel action. This is the best; in terms of recreating an acoustic grand piano. The sounds are excellent, if you enjoy the Shigeru brand; however their sampling falls short of recreating the beauty and warmth of the real thing and can be a little dark (preference here). It is also extremely heavy (not the market the 88 is aimed at in many ways) as Johnny suggests. The MP11se is best used as a studio/practise replacement for an actual grand piano. Its strength is its key action, and this means you'll find many happy teachers and non-gigging pianists with this at home/studio. Yamaha does better 'overall'. Sound wise it competes well, even with Nord (popular in stage settings/current trend bands). Where it excels though is the keybed/total package (sum of its total parts) WITH the great Yamaha samples. I don't feel you will be disappointed. The portability combined with everything else makes it closer to the Mp11 than anything else whilst being a true STAGE gigging board. I like to move around with my practice instruments as well as play with others (vocals/band). In this field CP88 > Mp11. The brighter Yamaha sounds being ideal for the music Johnny suggests he enjoys (rock lean).

That was XLR Output and of cause the piano has an USB port 😉

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

It is a stage piano so of course it must have all the ports available on this planet, lol

I wish i have a CP88........ I only have Casio LK280 and it's sounds like toddler's toy...Not even using it.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

Just go slowly into a digital piano, old one is okay, like a Yamaha P140, or P155. Then you can can sell them after a few years and get a better one... I myself used to own and sell many too

Update your keyboard man. Your missing all kinds of pianos and other sounds

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't think about that, but I shall try. Thank you man

@christophhausner8870

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 I actually find the Piano sounds that they added with later firmware versions much better than what the instrument initially came with. C7, CF3 and especially the Nashville C3 are excellent. Also the Rd73 Studio is a great addition to the E.Piano section.

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

@@christophhausner8870 Yes, that is correct. I have upgraded and are even more content with my piano now. The CF3 is nothing new, it is exactly what Yamaha has been using in their cheaper models in the last 15 years, especially Live CF3.

@robertmichalscheck3072

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnykeys939 you should maybe demo these new pianos so we can hear them?

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertmichalscheck3072 Yes, I did a new video showing them, you should check it out. It is a livestream and I tried to record via OBS.

Reverb depth maximum and tone button to max as well is complete nonsense. Who is supposed to be able to judge anything in this gaudy mess of sound?

Your presentation is poor. The connections that you called MIDI are NOT MIDI....They are XLR outputs to connect to a professional PA system without having to use a direct box. There is usb ports on the connection panel. And, as for the reverb amount you are using, it is way too heavy....you are killing the sound of the piano.

Horrible sound with the reverb. Inexcusable, Yamaha.

@johnnykeys939

2 жыл бұрын

It was because I set it that way. The factory default piano sounds are much more thinner.

@RyanMonty

3 ай бұрын

It's inexcusable by Yamaha to give people the OPTION to add a ton of reverb? lmao

Woooooood keys ? With great respect, you need to re-think your reviews in future. There was way too much "waffle," and it just seemed poorly prepared .........

@johnnykeys939

3 жыл бұрын

Why? The keys are indeed Natural Wood key actions. And everyone is entitled to their opinions, regardless of what others think. Thank you