Holy Spirit Confusion and Raised by a Narcissistic Father

What is it like to walk the healing and freedom journey when you have been raised by a narcissistic father, brought up under a legalistic faith and experience confusion when it comes to relating to God and hearing from the Holy Spirit? In today's broadcast, I am responding to a question that was sent that covers these issues and more. I believe all of us can grow together through what is shared here.
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  • @lizamena9124
    @lizamena91242 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I had to run out from a Pentecostal church was in,I was told I could NOT ware pants inside or outside of church not even my scrubs at work, no makeup, no jewrely, I had to get rid of all of them. Then I was told I could not go on vacation, not even with my own family. Also anything we did that was wrong was not to be kept a secret, we had to tell him everything. At times he would preach a condemning sermon if he knew someone in the church committed some grievous sin, a lot of manipulation and control. I finally build enough courage to leave without telling him.. its been 2 years still traumatized and struggle in believing that God really loves me. I now pray for this pastor and his church, that God would have mercy and for God to open their eyes...

  • @rebeccanesbitt8670

    @rebeccanesbitt8670

    2 жыл бұрын

    God delivered you from a cult. The Holy Spirit will continue to gently heal you. Don’t be afraid. The spirit of religion is a nasty mean spirit.

  • @lizamena9124

    @lizamena9124

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rebeccanesbitt8670 Amen 🙏

  • @nicolebrown9971

    @nicolebrown9971

    Жыл бұрын

    I hear you. I know you commented this a year ago, but it really spoke to me. I just got out a similar environment about a year ago that was also Pentecostal. It was very performative and legalistic, but I subconsciously clung to it cuz it was familiar and not cuz it was healthy. I began to find myself being very uncomfortable when I would go to this church because I grew up in many Christian environments that were performance-based and law-based. I’ve struggled with scrupulosity for about 10 years. This church’s particular approach to the Bible made me feel like something was wrong with me and that I was ‘lost’ and it was like they wanted to ‘fix’ me. It was emotionally exhausting, but it was familiar so settled with it as the Truth. God terrified me for much of my life and I haven’t been as close to Him as now. Once I left that church, things started to change. I have since cut contact with those people and it feels incredibly freeing. But I’m still working through it and unlearning all of those law-based beliefs cuz I only stopped going there a couple months ago. It’ll take a while for this nasty, condemning voices to quiet down. It’s still hard for me to believe that God loves me exactly where I’m at. I’m still new to His true character. It makes me feel better to see so many comments of people who struggle with the same things! It makes me feel heard and less alone!

  • @danielawilliams5988
    @danielawilliams59882 жыл бұрын

    It literally took my heavenly father saying enough was enough. My parents were pastors. I had to let go. The Holy Spirit told me it had to be this way, it was like a deconstruction of what I thought love was so I could learn what true love was..😭🙏 Thanks for the vid

  • @GrayMattr

    @GrayMattr

    9 ай бұрын

    Going through it now been one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in 36 years, also the most necessary.

  • @southernbawselady7092
    @southernbawselady70922 жыл бұрын

    This is a God Sent video! Being raised by (JW) Jehovah's Witness parents was so trying!...I had to give it up after 50 years!! Mark, you are definitely being used by God to help us heal spiritually, mentally, emotionally and psychologically!! I needed this video today! Thank you soooo much!! 🙏💜💚

  • @danielawilliams5988

    @danielawilliams5988

    2 жыл бұрын

    May the Lord continue to heal and restore you🌷

  • @fruitandoilministry2397
    @fruitandoilministry23972 жыл бұрын

    I was raised in a JW family with a narcissistic father and a very depressed mother. Its been a very long and hard journey. Thank You Jesus for directing me to Mark.

  • @realityisbest8963

    @realityisbest8963

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same!!

  • @annamachalska762

    @annamachalska762

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same too! ❤️

  • @John-yw7qi
    @John-yw7qi Жыл бұрын

    Hello, I heard and realized that I am a narcissistic father. I am 37 and I have a son who is 10 years old. I accepted Jesus 5 years ago and was caught up in legalism and pressured my son through the fear of God. just like you mentioned in the teaching, i really want to get out of this and get my heart right for my son. I want freedom from narcissism. after I started listening to you, Mark, clarity comes to me... I was busy with the church, serving in the show, and I left my home, I divorced my wife and I understand that I made a lot of mistakes.. through internal trauma in my childhood... I want to change, pray for me and my family relationships.. please brothers and sisters.

  • @andreeaburian1408

    @andreeaburian1408

    Жыл бұрын

    Amen John, Ne authentic as this is the only way to please the Lord, yrsf, Yr loved ones and to b TRULLY happy. God can help you at this is you TRULLY want it and are dedicated to this and to reparation. Love and Blessings

  • @raybrooks9012
    @raybrooks90123 ай бұрын

    God bless MarkdeJesus! I pray that all of you with the help of God or father that you heal your minds and feel his Infinite love and grace!

  • @realityisbest8963
    @realityisbest89632 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I'm in my 20's. I could've written this e-mail. This is almost exactly what I went through as well. Being raised by a true narcissistically abusive father is very hurtful, challenging and confusing. I'm also struggling with releasing my own dad, because connecting with God's love and freedom feels like I'm sinning. I did have the courage to set the boundary with him 2 years ago, but setting boundaries with the abuse still makes me feel like I'm a bad kid. I also don't want to be ridiculed for accepting God's love, but that is part of carrying our cross. I do wonder if I can ever stop spinning about my parents. Dad calls love, "fluff and stuff." Says that debating Bible doctrines is the true spiritual warfare, and that God loves us when we have perfect knowledge of Scripture. It's a counterfeit battle. I'm praying for this dear woman, she is so precious. Thank you Mark for covering this so well and so sensitively.

  • @realityisbest8963

    @realityisbest8963

    2 жыл бұрын

    @O S Thank you! The journey of healing is incredible! Praying for you too, friend.

  • @y.peffle2802
    @y.peffle28022 жыл бұрын

    🖐 Russian pentecostal church goer here ... spot on

  • @alanalynn2023
    @alanalynn20232 жыл бұрын

    I cannot express in Earthly terms how much this teaching did for me. God bless Mark richly in all things

  • @winniecash1654
    @winniecash16542 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark for being here for us. I wish people were around in the 70s to help me through leaving my parents, who were alcoholics, my dad a narc. Every adult I encountered said nothing to help, just platitudes. I guess this stuff wasn't known back then.

  • @mistyflores3176
    @mistyflores31762 жыл бұрын

    Praise God brother for wisdom, I know that wisdom is poured out from a heart that has experienced pain of all kinds. Praise God He used this exact pain to usher you into His Grace not only to heal but to minister to others who are going through it!

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 Жыл бұрын

    Man in a year and a half I'll be 70 and I've been this way for most of my life. As you say God is not going to fix me and I have no clue of communication with the Holy Spirit.

  • @raybrooks9012

    @raybrooks9012

    3 ай бұрын

    Take heart brother! GOD is with you forever

  • @maetan2682
    @maetan26822 жыл бұрын

    Mark!!!! Thank you for this! My dad is a neglectful narc and I am the scapegoat in the family. I left home since February and tried to fight guilt of “dishonoring” dad because I left. I was suicidal so I had to leave. I initially felt like a failure as a Christian to “influence” my dad and “show” Jesus to him. I stopped talking to so many Christians who were against my decision to leave and surrender dad to God. I am still having days of uncontrollable crying for releasing lifetime of pain and also I have trouble receiving from Father God. I feel like He is always against me and just let me exist but watch me struggle and just survive. I am so alone and afraid to grow old alone. I sometimes do not know how to pray and ask from God anymore because I would hear the voices that says “no to entitlement and embrace your lot/suffering.”

  • @danielawilliams5988

    @danielawilliams5988

    2 жыл бұрын

    I went through something similar. You are never alone, trust God and as you heal you will discover the true love of a heavenly father. God bless 💓 ... in spite of the pain, it's worth it.

  • @maetan2682

    @maetan2682

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielawilliams5988 Thank you so much! 👐🏼 God bless you!🌈💫

  • @brianmery761

    @brianmery761

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same story I know your pain! You will heal follow your conviction, you are not wrong.

  • @angelastephens9276

    @angelastephens9276

    Жыл бұрын

    I wanna third those comments to hang in there and keep trusting!!! They’re right!!! Praise God He DOES care, see, and deliver!! Your just in the beginning stages! He has SO MUCH of ahis love to show you, and how dare that lying accuser accuse God’s character with yet another lie. God’s timing is perfect for reasons we may never know. Don’t listen to the enemy try to tell you to give up. Like Jesus, set your face like flint towards trusting our Lord that He has GOOD plans for you!

  • @lettinggrace

    @lettinggrace

    Жыл бұрын

    Aw I am so sorry you went through that and felt like that. Please know your life and feelings matter so much. It is important you do what's best for you. Narcissists will just destroy. You deserve utmost love and respect. I am so sorry you had people that didn't validate your struggles. So many people can't understand what it's like to live with a narcissist or family. But if they were in your shoes, know they would probably not be saying what they did. Your feelings and decisions are valid even if others or it feels like no one understands. Your life is precious. The Bible mention narcissists and narcissistic spirits in people: the Pharisees for example Jesus died for them, but he didn't put himself around them, spending time with them, and being friends with them. He knew their attitude toward him and they were also plotting against him. We can see they were dangerous. Likewise, people that are causing you pain repeatedly and show they don't care or feed off it, you have no other choice but to distance yourself. You're not a failure of a Christian. You have to protect yourself. It's so frustrating people don't understand that. I'm sorry you've been crying so much. I'm so sorry you're in pain. You don't deserve to be in so much pain. I'm so sorry. Please be really kind to yourself. You deserve so much love. You're an amazing person no matter what you've heard and you're a gift to this world. You are needed. You are wanted. You are loved. You are significant. You are not alone friend. That voice telling you it is your lot to suffer is not God's. God loves you and wants you out of that environment. You feeling like you had to leave because things were getting bad is God leading you to a life where you're not treated like that but loved the way you deserve to be. I hope you are doing better and know you are loved and cared about and if you feel like you have no one, I love you friend and care about you.

  • @Charris3140
    @Charris31402 жыл бұрын

    This is actually the opposite in my family… my mother is the narcissist. My father spent (still does) his life tip toeing around her so not to rock the boat. My mother did not know how to show love. She parented by abuse and manipulation. And my father never did anything to reprimand or correct her or protect us.

  • @emilynelson3504
    @emilynelson35042 жыл бұрын

    I'm SO thankful for much-needed ministries like yours that combine a spiritual perspective with mental, emotional, and relational health issues. So often I've gotten help in these areas from non-Christian sources (books, therapists, etc) while getting spiritual insights from my church, but haven't found many churches or Christians that combine the two. Not that they don't exist, of course, it's just been rare for me to find in my own life. I do think many churches are starting to get better in this area although it's slow. There's a particularly strong stranglehold when it comes to narcissism in families that claim Christ, because there's even more pressure to "reconcile and forgive"--as though if you don't jump right back into relationship with harmful people that God is displeased with you and will withhold blessings (or you don't understand the gospel).

  • @kathryngracey7993

    @kathryngracey7993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes...unfortunately some clergy can be deceived by the narcissist. My pastors own marriage is imploding.

  • @bucketspree4952

    @bucketspree4952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it can be confusing for people, because forgiveness is necessary no matter what, and reconciliation is relational, so it depends a lot on who is involved for how it happens. People tend to equate the two, and try to say that reconciliation needs to happen in this way, or right away, etc.

  • @emilynelson3504

    @emilynelson3504

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bucketspree4952 great point.

  • @JulzJewel
    @JulzJewel2 жыл бұрын

    Oh am so grateful for Gods love. This is surely me, raised by a narcissit father. I always struggled to believe that God loves me i was never enough. Till i was surely led by the Holy spirit to walk away. After I realised that the man i married was exactly like him. Now divorced which i honestly want to thank God for. I have taken time to work on my self and heal myself. Because i believe in marriage love and family. And hope to one day give love wholly as a healed person. Sometimes i believe narcissist are less human because of the things they do. I always wondered why my dad was like that to his own children i struggled to comprehend it. But God has been so good. I have so much love within me i have grown, i am now more confident, i relate better with people, all this is after I walked away from a narcissist husband and father. Thank you pastor Mark many peoole are being freed from bondages because of your revelatory teachings. Thank you. And by the way i have watched all the series on Gods love. It helped me alot

  • @mikehartley9352
    @mikehartley93523 ай бұрын

    Thanks Mark you're a Godsend❤

  • @sh6460
    @sh6460 Жыл бұрын

    Oh yes, the scoffing, plenty of that.

  • @williamnarcisse6917
    @williamnarcisse69172 жыл бұрын

    .... my last name is Narcisse , but seriously, I thank God for leading me to this channel

  • @anniec8452
    @anniec84522 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark. I believe the Lord is in control. Even of my KZread feed. Thank you! I have met a brother from another mother! :) You talk so beautifully and with so much love. I needed this! A truly inspired wounded healer...God is good! ❤

  • @pamelawatkins8147
    @pamelawatkins81472 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @cedricbrown8822
    @cedricbrown88222 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video Mark! You have no idea how meaningful and impactful your ministry has been! THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING and for being obedient to The Holy Spirit! You are a LIGHT brother! 🙏🏽👍🏽💯

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 Жыл бұрын

    Mark you're a GOOFBALL!!! Maybe I should be more that way but my ego won't let me. I was raised by a Southern Baptist grandmother about 100 miles east of where you are now.

  • @kathryngracey7993
    @kathryngracey79932 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This truly makes sense and gives me a lot of insight re. my husband's narcissism and how, why he is increasingly verbally, emotionally, spiritually abusive to me.

  • @rebeccanesbitt8670

    @rebeccanesbitt8670

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should probably leave. You may not be safe.

  • @kathryngracey7993

    @kathryngracey7993

    2 жыл бұрын

    So sweet of you to reply. Thank you very much for your prayers. I'll pray for your mom and you too! "The Serenity Prayer" is one of my favourites.

  • @kathryngracey7993

    @kathryngracey7993

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rebeccanesbitt8670 Thank you! I now have a lawyer!

  • @TommasoLucaSanna
    @TommasoLucaSanna2 жыл бұрын

    Amen brother Mark. Good to see you speaking on the topic. Your channel , and all your resources have changed my life and continue to use them in the journey. Much love. Tommaso

  • @cassandrasacred7762
    @cassandrasacred77622 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video.

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 Жыл бұрын

    How do you stay humble? Humility is part of AA and NA, in my skin it hard to stick with it. I have maybe narcissistic tendencies and I'm hoping maybe because I have emotions and I'm not a fan of still.

  • @vernonscott7999
    @vernonscott79992 жыл бұрын

    Mark, any options on the "EMMAUS WALK" or "WALK TO EMMAUS"? It's a 3 day retreat facilitated by The Upper Room - United Methodist Church and other non-denominational churches. It's now in all 50 states. A Spiritual retreat intended as a "moving experience" for a closer relationship to God.

  • @dianedupuis9973
    @dianedupuis9973 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark, wat about a narc.mother, with a son, with no father figure...she hates her son,an wants nothing to do with him.an he struggles tremendously 😢its sad.grandma😢

  • @christinabrenneman7641
    @christinabrenneman76412 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious how this would differ concerning a narcissistic mother.

  • @emilynelson3504
    @emilynelson35042 жыл бұрын

    What do you think about a father who has been abusive and doesn't admit the abuse or really change, but does seem to humble himself enough to apologize for "being harsh" or "hurting your feelings?" I do get apologies from him at times, but there's never an acknowledgment of the severity--it's sugar-coated--and it's mixed with some blame, denial, and not REALLY changing. I struggle with this because the occasional apologies sort of lure me back in and then make me feel guilty for still not wanting reconciliation, even though everything in me is saying it isn't safe and he hasn't truly changed. It's like he's sorry on a certain level but not the one that's needed. Then I wonder if maybe I'm the one who just isn't able to forgive and let go enough.

  • @emilynelson3504

    @emilynelson3504

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@natalyatucker3158 thanks Natalya, I'm in my mid 30s but I appreciate your care, and I'm sorry for your experience. I'm sure your responses were very normal for your age and what was happening and were not overly sensitive at all. With my dad I've just come to the point that despite a few anemic apologies and expressing he wants a good relationship with me, he hasn't gained insight or a true heart change and is just bad for me. On the surface it's looked like he wants reconciliation but my gut tells me he hasn't changed. It's hard admitting that. The struggle right now is the religious guilt that tells me I don't have the right to let him go but should keep trying to reconcile. It's taking a level of discernment I'm not sure I have.

  • @winniecash1654

    @winniecash1654

    2 жыл бұрын

    His apology may be a way to manipulate you, as he just wants to placate. It might also be just words as narcs don't feel responsible for their actions. Could be he realizes what he is, and he knows he should apologize and is going through the motions. You may be interested in Sam Vaknin on yt. In one of his videos he admits he's a narc. It's truly one if the most heart wrenching admissions I've heard. I cried as he related his narcissism. My words don't do it justice. If you want insight into your dad's narcissism, you'd benefit from the video. He put it out around 6-9 months ago, if my memory serves me.

  • @emilynelson3504

    @emilynelson3504

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks everyone who reached out with kindness and solidarity. I'm praying for all of our healing journeys.

  • @kimberleycable

    @kimberleycable

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s exactly how I feel with my own dad. I had to leave the home to heal because the abuse still happened over and over again and he didn’t change. He goes into a honeymoon stage after he blows up, and my mom thinks he’s changing, but to me, I know he will blow up again and become abusive. No wonder I feel so much confusion about my childhood. My mom justifies my dad’s behavior (blames it on his narc parents) instead of holding him accountable to his actions.

  • @winniecash1654

    @winniecash1654

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kimberleycable I'm so sorry. It's so hard on us.

  • @CharlieBass5
    @CharlieBass5 Жыл бұрын

    What does it mean to "walk with God"?

  • @radvibes
    @radvibes7 ай бұрын

    Mark. Just curious...Does your dad listen to this broadcast?

  • @lucaschristianson1985
    @lucaschristianson19852 жыл бұрын

    Can we please talk?

  • @swagu3483

    @swagu3483

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk if you guys ever talked, but what's going on man?

  • @ACTS1ZION
    @ACTS1ZION Жыл бұрын

    A CONFUSED enemy lies ABOUT US ALL!! BE A CHILD OF GOD!!!!! FATHER JESUS CHRIST SAITH ALL SOULS REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED EVERYONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS AND YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST! ACTS 2 38 OF THE APOSTLES! NO SINNER'S PRAYER COMPLETES SALVATION - Z E R O!!!!! GENESIS 1:28 JOHN 8:24 2ND CORINTHIANS 5:19 AND MORE!!!! FATHER JESUS CHRIST ALONE IS GOD ALL BY HIMSELF THEREFORE ASK HIM ALONE PRAYERFULLY!!!!!