110% agree with you on the Hex Wasp. My battery lasts 3 weeks. I am going to the Holosun.

The trick to finding the dot with pistol optic is counter to a rifle. With a pistol, you gotta start with good fundamentals. Put the gun in center of your chest and push straight out. The iron sights should be lined up. If you are slightly off you can loose the dot. To avoid shooting stars (dot streaking across the glass) move your head to find the dot and keep the gun straight. Keep practicing the fundamentals and groove in a consistent and repeatable draw and aim. It will feel wrong at first but trust it. Then all of a sudden it will click and you’ll be like wow. It’s right there. Practice drawing and aiming at a light switch or photo on the wall. Once it clicks it will instantly be far easier and a lot faster than trying to aim with iron sights. It’s will basically be as easy as having a laser on except the dot is on the glass. I zero with the dot lolypopping on top of my front sight post. 25 yards i can eat up the 8 and 10” steel gongs.

I put the 407k x2 on my hellcat pro and I'm loving it so far

NC in the house!! Nice having people from my state represent in the gun community. Keep up the good work my guy!

Holosun is always my go to. The shake awake feature is excellent. Great video. Shipping the pro now. Use holosun on my ruger pc charger.

I was looking up Hellcat Pro optics. Saw your shirt and got excited. UNCW 🤘🤘🤘

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

My oldest daughter goes there.

I currently use the Swampfox Sentinel red dot for my Hellcat Pro. So far it's been great.

@bradpowell843

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a good cowitness with that setup?

@ex07m

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradpowell843 Yes. It's lines up just like the Wasp optics Springfield made for the Hellcat.

@TheKalico23

2 жыл бұрын

Swampfox Sentinel was better than I expected on my P365xl,But I will go with the Holosun on My Hellcat pro.

@mattpaarlberg2264

Жыл бұрын

@@ex07m the wasp is a complete co-witnesses whereas both the Swampfox sentinel and 507k let you see the top of your sights. Enough to aim with in a pinch

Just put a 507cX2 on my XR920 and loved it so much I’m looking for something for my hellcat. Heard the wasp isnt all that great and your video was really informative about the alternatives. Thank you and great work!

Thanks for the glowing review. I just slapped one of these bad boys on my primary summer EDC, my Sig P365X. Fit like a glove. I bought it primarily because Aaron Cowan at Sage Dynamics says it’s easily the best micro red dot on the market. This dude knows red dots. I have a new PDP Walther and plan on the 508T for it. Thanks again. 👍

I feel ya brother I did the same thing buying the Hell Cat Pro without the red dot because heard about the same things with the factory red dot. Glad I watched because I'm now trying to figure out what red dot to put on it.

I’m into direct mount. I hate plates. I have a 43x I am get riled milled to 407k. I run 407c on my Glock clones. I’m needing the red dot due to old eyes. I also seem to shoot a thicker gun better. Lol so many issues when you get old it ain’t funny. Good video.

Excellent review, thanks.

Just mounted 507k 2x on the 43x ready to get out and practice with it, good shooting

I’m going to see if this Holosun will fit on my Hellcat RDP, I went to the range on 5/1/22 only to find the Wasp died, pissed me off being that I had replaced the battery in March or so.

@yankchef4067

2 жыл бұрын

I have one, it fits the rdp. There is an adapter plate you can get on Amazon for the holosun. I would advise against permanent modifications to the slide as it will void your warranty. You will only be able to barely see the top of your irons tho, if you remove the rear site u are good to go, just use rear notch on optic

I'm leaning toward the Holosun because batteries can be changed without removing the sight from the slide and potentially losing zero. Did you use the adapter or mill your Hellcat slide? If you used the adapter, do you still get a co-witness with the factory irons? Thanks, great video!

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

I milled the slide

@korazjian5251

Жыл бұрын

No cowitness with the holosun, plate makes it sit up too high but yeah getting it milled would be the ideal setup

@misterbear9211

Жыл бұрын

+Cameron Maser With the C&H Precision adapter plate you can see the tops of the irons on the Hellcat Pro with a 407k/507k kzread.info/dash/bejne/lWZpsNKTotW-adY.html

I have seen wayyyy too many bad reviews about the wasp. I got the 407 for my Hellcat Pro. Only cause I like a bigger dot for ccw

@jordanbohannon5460

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get it?

I have a wasp on my hellcat and I hate it. Battery is dead about every month and I have to take it off to change the battery. I’m looking at a Holosun to replace my wasp.

I would highly recommend the the Cyelee Cat Pro. Mounts directly to the Pro without a plate.

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

Love to see bruthas embracing their 2A rights

@finalcountdown7658

Жыл бұрын

But then vote for politicians who want to take it away like a demographic of complete idiots...

K5 Firearms Training great video my friend.

Also, since i have larger hands and micro pistols are harder to grip/ good recoil management because of the grip size, I put a rubberized Hogue grip sleeve over the grip and it feels 200 percent better.

@markwalters5903

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know Hogue made one to fit the Pro model. Where did you get it?

I’m going with the eps carry for my pro. I got a 507c on my xdm elite osp and love it. But im gonna go enclosed for my edc gun.

The hellcat pro is cut with a footprint that fits the Springfield red dots and a think a few others. Did you have to get the adapter plate from CHMS or whoever to make it for? I read that’s the only way it will fit it to mill down the back footprints so it smooth? If this is the case I’d have for sure mention that in your video as now someone might go buy it and it won’t fit!!!

My hex wasp battery lasts about 3 weeks. The Latest Holosun is set up for MOS footprint so unless you want to lose even more of your co-witness sight picture with an adapter plate…you may as well get a Glock MOS…Not to mention the lack of accessories/holster options.

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

That's next on my wish list. 🤞

I got a holosun scs on my glock 45 so i don't ever have to worry about batteries.

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

Nice! That’s next on my list. Have you had a chance to shoot with it yet? How is the sight picture?

Thanks for the review. My wife just got the Hell at Pro .. this gun shoots awesome...Now we’re looking for a red dot. How did you mount the 407 to the pro ? Thanks

@misterbear9211

Жыл бұрын

+RichardT123456789 You can buy an adapter plate from C&H Precision. Which is the best plate on the market BTW. Or, you can mail your slide into C&H Precision. They will grind down the post that prevent the 407k/507k from fitting. I chose to get mine milled down, which I believe cost around $75 or $85 plus shipping. The cost of the plate is $49.45.

thank you for the video

I had to give a like and a sub strictly because yours was the first video I found on mounting that optic on the Hellcat Pro…which I intend on doing in two weeks when my waiting period is over and its time to pick it up. One question though, how does the 507 fit the slide as far as side to side goes, is there much overhang or is it close to being a flush fit?

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

There is a smidgen of overhang on the sides. Also, you will have to get a mounting plate/footprint unless you grind down the dots on the slide.

Just got a hellcat pro. Looking at a Holosun 507k in FDE red dot. Anyone can recommend and vouch for if this holds up well over a good period of time ?

I have a question With the hollison do you lose your iron sights 🤔 on your Hellcat Pro 🤔 because I'm thinking about putting a red dot on my hellcat

Did you have to buy an adapter plate for the hellcat pro when you purchased the 507?

Great! Music makes wanna get up and party 🎉 all night 🤣🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🥃🇺🇸

Curious if you had any issues finding the dot when first using it? I have shied away from using one for carrying for that very reason. Mine is a 507K. not the X2 whatever that adds. Thanks. Enjoyed your video.

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

It takes practice to find it during presentation. I eventually got use to it. Check out my video on the Canik SC elite. I addressed that issue in the latter part of the video. Glad you enjoyed this video.

@34dawgsgo

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 Watched it thanks. Extra practice and repetition like anything. My fear is drawing on the bad guy in a heated situation and not being able to find the dot. He's not going to wait on you!!!!

The Hex Wasp is a piece of garbage...it came when I bought the Hellcat OSP....mounted it finally after taking it back(1 screw was too short). Anyways, while at competition. The red dot blinked and then eventually juat turned off....yes I've fixed it but its just garbage. The battery rides right underneath on the slide, so all that force when it reciprocates ruins the dot. Also the 1 moa/auto adjust was late and intermittent sometimes...its also extremely tough to see in bright sun....I bought a plate adapter and will be fitting a Holosun 507k or 407k on it.

What holster are you using, thanks for the video!

I JUST bought a hellcat pro 2 days ago. Looking for optic options. Will I have to alter the gun in any way or will it fit straight out of the box? -thanks

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

If you want it to fit flush, you will have to mill the slide.

Sir ? For you I have the wasp and yes battery life is horrible. So the 507 your talking about is it a simple replacement Does it fit or do I need to have it reworked on the mount the 507 Thank you

hello just picked up hellcat pro friday so what do i need to install the 507k on it tks from puerto rico

How did you mount it the nuns are hitting and if you use a plate then can’t cowitness

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

I had a gunsmith mill down the bumps on the slide and mounted it directly. In retrospect, it would have been better to to use a plate. The two bumps help to maintain the zero of the red dot.

'Good info - thanks.

Hey how was the install? Have the 507 for my HK VP9 and love it but when I got the Hellcat Pro the internet alluded to possible slide modification for the 507k to be a direct fit. Ended up getting a Sig Romeo Zero elite and while it’s okay it’s no 507.

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

I took it to a gun smith that mounted it directly. He milled down the two dots on the slide.

@bbmw9029

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 This is something you should have discussed in the video. I like the concept of the Holosun on the Hellcat Pro. But I don't like the idea of having to machine the slide to accept it.

@davidhudson2527

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbmw9029 No need for slide modifications. C&H Precision Weapons sells a mounting plate for the Hellcat with the RMSc footprint that is made to fit the Holosun 507K/407K. Included with the plate is Vibra-Tite and 2 perfect sized mounting screws. The stock iron sights of the Hellcat will co-witness with the 507K/407K even after using the mounting plate. 👍🏿

@bbmw9029

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhudson2527 Okay, that last tidbit is interesting. I knew about the plate, assumed the plate would raise the optic high enough to block the irons. I'd want to keep the cowitness.

@00xanawolf00

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhudson2527 thanks for this comment, it’s exactly what I was looking for! Now I just need to find out if the added optic will impede or hinder a clean draw from an Alabama Holster Company pocket holster made specifically for the Hellcat Pro and Holosun 507K X2... The holster covers the optic completely, so no issues there, but I’m trying to find out if you can draw from the pocket without the added height of the optic snagging or impeding your draw. Lol, this is crazy, but would you mind making your HC Pro safe and clear and then putting it in your front pocket, and then see if you can draw it without the optic hanging up? I’d be grateful!

I purchased a light tuck holster on the way. Will it still work if I get this o. My hellcat pro?

Do you have a video of installing the red dot? Were there any extra modifications done?

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

kzread.infoe2YIFOG38KU?feature=share

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

I had the slide milled.

Did you have to get an adapter plate for the 507, or does it fit the pro good, thankyou

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

I milled the slide. Or rather, I had a gunsmith do it.

@scottgaskin8574

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 ok ,gotcha thankyou

Here's my question. Coukd the holosun git on a springfield xds mod 2 osp with CT red dot. I hate the ct.

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

You may need to find a plate for it, but yeah it probably will. His is some info. www.reddit.com/r/SpringfieldArmory/comments/rcwiwy/sa_xds_osp_with_holosun_507k_mounted/.

@billtaylor1656

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 thank you

@billtaylor1656

2 жыл бұрын

Update to my question. The holosun 507k does fit on my xds. Mod 2.

Did you use a plate to mount or did you file down the posts? If you used the plate can you still see your irons??

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

I milled down the post so I could witness. In retrospect, I should have used the plate, as I found myself having to re-zero the optic quite a bit.

Here’s a question for you that could possibly stir a debate….does the HOLOSUN turn on on its own or is it motion activated ???

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

Motion activated (shake awake feature). It has 4 modes. 10 minutes, 1 hour or 12 hours to sleep mode, or sleep mode completely off

@SHOOTERS_G.n.B

2 жыл бұрын

Ok so I’m gonna say this I was against red dots on EDC till I got one that wakes with motion. If your carrying I assume you turn it on before you leave for the day and let it run because in self defense situation there’s no time to turn on a red dot in fact there’s barely time to sight in and squeeze adrenaline, anxiety so forth. The HOLOSUN seems like the best option as it’s battery life is awesome and it has the mode your talking about. I run the 509T on 2 of my range guns. I have the sight mark mini on my Hellcat pro it runs constantly and I have the Romeo on my Canik sc it runs constantly love them both.

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, before I leave the house I cut it on(in addition to loading a round in the chamber). I actually want to try the sig Romeo next.

@SHOOTERS_G.n.B

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 pretty solid and priced nice. One of the best things about the HOLOSUN lineup is the side tray for the battery…I’m pretty sure u know most of these optics have battery trays on bottom which means uninstall and install re-zero…HOLOSUN is the truth!!!!

How’d you get it to fit? The lugs I received are too long

Great review. Personally, I want to be in control of my red dot. Not the other way around. I personally don’t like the always on or even the shake awake option. I know it might work for some, but certainly not for most. I’m actually looking for a cheaper option for my Helly. I also own a Glock 19 MOS and currently got a Academy Redfield red dot on it. It’s got a simple red dot but with 5 brightness settings. And I can turn it on or off as I please. Essentially my backup sight option. There is a micro red dot option I can use for my Helly P, also a Redfield, RMSc footprint, but it’s shake awake. So still looking for a better option. Was thinking a Crimson Trace maybe.

@darknessmoto9912

Жыл бұрын

You are 100% in control of all of the features with a Holosun. Don’t like the shake awake? Turn it off. Don’t like auto brightness? Turn it off and make it adjustable by buttons only. You can lock the buttons if you’d like. I definitely recommend Holosun, I own 4 different models, never had a problem and they’re all configured the way I like with me 100% in control.

@SitNSpinRecords

Жыл бұрын

Why do you want to have to take the time to turn on the optic before you can use it? Chances are, if you ever need it, you may not have time to turn on a optic. You may as well carry with a empty chamber too. I can see wanting manual on off for a range gun, but for ccw, shake awake rules. It also has a solar failsafe that charges the battery off the solar panels. 50,000hour battery life is pretty nice.

What holster you got for it ?

Im running the sig romeo zero elite on my hellcat pro I love this setup because it powers on off and has 3 different reticle choices as well. The romeo zero elite is a big upgrade from the regular romeo zero so im loving my new setup

@thejet105

2 жыл бұрын

Does it need an adapter plate or is it good to go?

@jeffb2700

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejet105 good to go even comes with the correct screws which the standard romeo zero didnt come with

@ecampana559

2 жыл бұрын

Been thinking bout adding the same one. But haven’t seen no one else’s post the zero elite yet.

@jeffb2700

2 жыл бұрын

@J. Reid I didnt use the shroud but im assuming it will not co witness because it just barely co witnesses without it

That mounts direct to slide ya?

Looking at the hellcat Rdp. How does the holosun cowitness with the hard sights?

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

If you want to co-witness the iron sights you will have to mill the slide. I would recommend just using an optic plate. It will hold its zero better.

Which mounting plate did you use for the 507k in the hellcat pro?

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t use a mounting plate, I milled down the slide instead.

Just Curious, what holster you use?

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

I use a crucial concealment holster IWB. It works well with or without the optic.

What adaptor plate did you get to run that red dot?

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

No plate. I had the slide milled.

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

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Brother, thank you for this video! I learned more in this short video than I’ve learned after spending hours watching all the “pro” channels. Like you, I love the Hellcat Pro. Like you, it’s my EDC. Like you, I’ve read those same reviews you mentioned regarding the Hex Wasp and all the problems folks are having. And finally, like you, I’ve heard good things about that Holosun model. I’ve learned that there is a mounting plate that allows easy install of the Holosun on the HC Pro with no cutting or grinding required. Now, I just have two remaining questions before I pull the trigger in this optic and plate purchase: 1. Can you still use both the rear and front iron sight should the optic fail in a life or death situation? I know you can co-witness with the Hex Wasp, but I’m not absolutely sure you can with this Holosun model. 2. Will that optic impede draw from a pocket holster? Believe it or not, I pocket carry 90% of the time due to a back injury and also due to my job. I’ve pocket carried my Shield with extended mag baseplates for 10 years, and now I am carrying my HC Pro in a new Alabama Pocket Holster and can draw with ease while still keeping my weapon concealed. I’m wondering if that added height of the Holosun will make drawing from the pocket too slow for practical use. I even spoke with the gentleman who makes the Alabama Pocket Holsters and he said that his holster models for micro red dots on pistols completely cover the optic. I’m wondering if that optic will snag after I draw it from its holster (still in my pocket) as I draw. Regardless, liked, subscribed, and thank you.

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Yes, without using the mounting plate, I can still see both my rear and front sights through the optic. As for pocket, meh 🫤. I imagine that pocket carry(with or without the optic) would be a bit of a challenge for me.

@Potential_Spam

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the mounting plate raises it a bit so its not a true co witness. Think I'll still pull the trigger on the 507k and take the setup to my gunsmith for fitment

Was a direct install or did you need an adapter plate ?

@mwalimubusara1395

Жыл бұрын

It was a direct install. I had a gunsmith mill the slide.

Wit plate or not plate???

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

No plate. The gunsmith milled the slide to have it flush fit.

💪🏿👊🏿

Man that thing kicks like a mule

These work in movies and video games

Do you need a plate?

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, If you don’t grind down the two bumps on the slide. I had a gunsmith do that for me.

@KhromeXx

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 you got a link to the plate?

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

@@KhromeXx www.amazon.com/DPP-Titanium-Adapter-Hellcat-Holosun/dp/B09G9RQNDF

@KhromeXx

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 Thankyou very much

@SHOOTERS_G.n.B

2 жыл бұрын

The optics direct bolt on the Hellcat

What optic plate did you use on the Hellcat pro?

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

None. I milled down the slide to have it fit flush.

@truthtalker7774

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 I thought it alright came optics ready? You had to get it milled to fit this red dot? Wouldn’t it have been more cost effective to just get the non ops version in the first place then? Did you not use a plate so that you can co-witness with the factory sights? Thanks

@mwalimubusara1395

2 жыл бұрын

@@truthtalker7774 I didn’t have to the entire slide. It comes with a removable face plate. There are two small dots under the removable face plate they go underneath the hex wasp. I had the two dots milk down, so I can make the holosun fit flush and cowitness with the iron sights

@truthtalker7774

2 жыл бұрын

@@mwalimubusara1395 I figured that out a few more comments down lol. Thanks for responding though! I have the osp xdm elite but haven’t bothered to put a red dot on it. Going to put one on a hellcat though. So I’m doing some research. Thanks again take care