If you take one thing away from all of this, it should be that "Waterworld" isn't as bad as you remember (or it's way worse than you think...I'm still not sure), and that vanity projects tell us more about the rich and famous than any autobiography ever could. Thanks as always for watching. Sharing, liking, leaving a comment and subscribing is the best way of helping the channel grow. If you're so inclined and would like to get your name in the credits, join our IFO Film Club and get access to our private Discord - check out www.patreon.com/inframeout All our love IFO x

@stellabelikiewicz1523

3 жыл бұрын

I recently rewatched Waterworld, which I loved as a kid but was prepared to discover as an adult was actually terrible, and I was surprised to discover that, while it’s definitely not a “good” movie, it’s also definitely not soulless trash! It’s pretty darn inventive and full of attention to detail in its physical world, and there are glimmers of real attempts to make something interesting... but it never quite gets there. A fascinating one to revisit! And you’re so right: it’s never boring!

This movie was actually quite good.

@cesarzpontu8886

2 жыл бұрын

No it wasn't

@DrMFoster7

Жыл бұрын

@@cesarzpontu8886 I think it was pretty good.

@cesarzpontu8886

Жыл бұрын

@@DrMFoster7 no, not at all

@belstar1128

Жыл бұрын

Yea i think it was decent i have seen much worse.

@cesarzpontu8886

Жыл бұрын

@@belstar1128 this movie is so dull, that i don't know how Warner Bros approved it

I wouldn't classify The Postman as a vanity project. It's a perfectly good idea for a movie for Costner to direct and star in. It'd be a vanity project if he did a movie he had no business starring in, like Bradley Cooper making Maestro.

Postman is a badass movie

I genuinely believe that "The Postman" is a fantastic movie and honestly can't understand why people hated it so much.

@KroegerFan44

3 жыл бұрын

@Light Sage I have seen objectively bad movies, like "Street Fighter," "The Room," "Birdemic," and "Sharknado" and I definitely enjoyed watching them, but "The Postman" simply doesn't fit in that category.

@cesarzpontu8886

2 жыл бұрын

@@KroegerFan44 yes it does

@KroegerFan44

2 жыл бұрын

@@cesarzpontu8886 I can't imagine you've even watched "The Postman" if you're honestly trying to tell me that everything from it's writing and acting to it's directing and cinematography is on par with the likes of "Birdemic" and "Sharknado", because that isn't something that is up for debate here, it's blatantly untrue.

@cesarzpontu8886

2 жыл бұрын

@@KroegerFan44 Bidermic and Sharknado are at least funny. And Sharknado is intentionally bad, while this movie is so dull, that you can show it to someone who has sleeping problems.

@KroegerFan44

2 жыл бұрын

@@cesarzpontu8886 You found it dull. That is an opinion. The quality of the film, however, is an objective fact and you simply cannot, in good faith, claim that it to be on par with films such as "Sharknado".

One of my favorite guilty pleasures.

@johnharrison1573

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@ArtisticlyAlexis

3 жыл бұрын

It's my mom's favorite movie, lol.

'Giving the means for people to talk to one another is pretty neat'. Then we got the internet and anonymity and social media and discovered to many people, have far to much to say.

In the latest edition of The Postman, David Brin added a foreword and he said apparently the movie was "very close to his vision" and praised Kevin Costner, He also mentioned Death Stranding as well.

@demonofelru3214

2 жыл бұрын

Is this on the blu ray?

There are moments of relevance for films like these. I’ve always enjoyed this one and while I realize it’s not for everybody, it has the foundation for what works well for humanity. It’s about hope for a better world, which ties into the theme of a lot of Costner’s films.

Somehow, Costner chose to take this goodwill that he received from his career revival 2 and a half decades later (due to the popularity of Yellowstone) and is going to redo his vanity project phase with a *2-part, 5-hour combined* Western epic for WB called Horizon: An American Saga slated for next year. I'm actually morbidly curious about this one.

Costner is unique for his generation. Few get to make more than one vanity project, he made two.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

Massive respect to anyone who can get away with that twice

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

3 жыл бұрын

Stallone made a trilogy out of a vanity project

@unconditionalprong

Жыл бұрын

Steven Seagal might be the winner since almost everything he is in is a vanity project. On Deadly Ground being the most obvious example. Executive Decision and Machete being pretty being the only ones that aren't.

I've always loved the postman and waterworld. The Arrow release is great. I always watch the 3 hour cut.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

I must say - I do rewatch "Waterworld" from time to time and have a terrific time doing so

@christianlula

4 ай бұрын

Me too.

It was about an idea. The power of communication. He was chosen as a stand-in stud because he had unique quality of being from out of town. Did it have some camp. Sure, you bet. But the idea of a society being resurrected by something as simple as a letter was interesting. I am a pathetic cynic that was moved by the selflessness displayed by kids carrying the mail.

@colonelmustard2652

Жыл бұрын

The letter is symbolic for hope.

There was enough room for Leo and Kate on that plank.

As a fan of David Brin's book, I saw this film in a cinema with some other fans (we got together through the Brin-L maillist). Afterwards we all thought that the movie could have been salvaged by: 1. cutting about 40 minutes of it 2. removing the Tom Petty stuff in toto 3. starting again. To say we were disappointed is understating the case entirely. While The Postman was not one of Brin's best novels (Startide Rising, Glory Season, The Uplift War, Earth are much better novels) it was poorly served by this movie. Still, because he possibly still gets royalty payments from its sale, I have a copy of the blu-ray. Small recompense, I know, but still something tangible.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

I love stories like this about fan communities and their responses to adapted works - thank you so much for sharing.

You reminded me that Waterword exists; It used to play on polish television all the time when I was little, I remember watching it with my sibling and loving it. It's rewatch time.

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

It's glorious trash of the lowest order...and I've probably seen it twenty times

Death Stranding, Fallout: New Vegas, Tom Petty's 'You Got Lucky' and the lovely Olivia Williams are the only reasons why I reference and remember this movie. ✌️😎

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

All of which are great reasons to dip back into the pool of The Postman

Olivia Williams was also in the horrendous Arnie film Sabotage hearing this great actress do a Foghorn Leghorn southern accent was painful.

The Postman (film) was great. Compared to the Planet of the Apes or Mad Max, it was great to see a movie that was relentlessly optimistic and hopeful for such a dystopic/post-calamity setting. Very rarely do you see post-apocalyptic movies that resist the urge to go on a 2.5 hour rant about how humanity is doomed and how misanthropy and cynicism are entirely justified. Im planning on reading the novel soon. The Holnists needed a lot more development though, at least in the film. They were more 2 dimensionally antagonistic than, say, Caesar's Legion in New Vegas. I did like how they kept the focus on society after whatever nuclear attack/bioweapon ravaged the world some years earlier. Seeing society gradually reconstruct (pre epilogue) was one of the best parts of the movie

I must of watched the postman 100s of times in the 90s when I was a kid so I might be biased here. the postman in my opinion was a great movie I always loved the adventure aspect of it and rebuilding of the USA set into motion accidentally by the postman. the main thing you get wrong about the main character is he was supposed to be unlikeable and a bit of a snake till near the end. Also Will Patton who plays the bad guy was one of the best villains of any movie I have ever seen.

That Morrissey quote... ooft. That's what mates are for - to point out when your work has transitioned into complete and utter pish.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

Morrissey is the king of shite patter

Hudson Hawk IS great! I miss the old Bruce Willis, as opposed to Old Bruce Willis...

That starting quote was hilariously horrendous.

Even without reading his book and before the answer i Said to myself "this is something Morrissey would write"😂

A film and world with potential totally wasted. Imagine the Dollars Trilogy in a Mad Max America.

I agree with your opinion, I think it is a flawed movie with many lore inconsistencies but I still like it, I happen to watch it as a kid at a time when I really needed a movie like this in my life and I'm grateful for that Nice video by the way 😊

@ArtisticlyAlexis

3 жыл бұрын

That's sort of how I feel about it. My mom loved this book & movie, so watched it & talked about it a lot when I was a teenager. It still feels like comfort food when I watch it, despite all its flaws. The idea is not _as bad_ as everyone says: communication & the ability to connect is the center of not only civilization, but what it means to be human. It's about the ability to connect & to remember. The concept, which is better laid out in the novel, is a bit cheesy, but it's still good.

This movie was better than waterworld. It was too smart for people to get though.

I used to watch this movie fairly often in the early 2000s, me and my dad would watch this every now and then, the movie isn't nearly as amazing as it's clear they had hoped it would be but it was always enjoyable.

I've been excited about the prospect of a Postman video ever since you started talking about it around the release of Death Stranding, and by god am I only marginally disappointed (I'm 100% joking this was absolutely fantastic as always)

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

You know how "The Postman" could have been better? If the bad guy was called "Hate Costner Man" (because his character is not a fan of the titular character) You know how "Death Stranding" could have been better? If it was a good game

The Postman is a good movie. The television advert campaign marketed it as a mad max road warrior style action flick.

Hold on, is Death Stranding a sequel to The Postman? Also, I think anything Kojima works on is a vanity project too

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with both of these statements...although there is only one character here with an awful, on-the-nose name. "Death Stranding" is just Kojima not knowing what subtext is and refusing to accept constructive criticism for 80 hours

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

3 жыл бұрын

MGS 4 wasn't. He didn't really want to do it iirc

@TheVolginator

3 жыл бұрын

Militaires Sans Frontières he may not of wanted to initially. But boy is it self indulgent

@SchulzEricT

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheVolginator I don't know if it is. I'm not sure why he did it, what he got out of it... I *think* he was trying to indulge a certain type of fan, in a very "you want to smoke cigarettes? Okay, smoke the whole carton then" kind of way. (I think 3: Snake-eater is a perfect game, in the discussion for Greatest Game of All-Time along with Ocarina of Time, Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal... that's really it, IMO. My 2nd tier is stuff like the Mass Effect trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins... not sure if we can still put old classics up there, but I wouldn't object to some like Final Fantasy III, Super Mario 64, what have you. I'm not a fighting game fan or FPS fan, for the most part, so I'm sure I'm being unfair to some of the classics in that genre, like Halo, or... the game Counter-Strike was modded from. Although I think Halo is a worse version of Turok, which might be my favorite all-time FPS. Underrated as fuck. 5: Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain was even more fun to play, I think, than 3 on account of some of the best - maybe the best - gameplay I've ever experienced. And I think the story was pretty good, for what was there... just, you know, incomplete. I mean... "good" by the standards by which I judge MGS games: weird, silly, over-the-top nonsense that is fun because it's silly and it knows it's silly... I do think that how convoluted MGS is perceived to be is overblown though. Just because 1 - 4: Guns of the Patriots shouldn't be considered; 97% of how convoluted and terrible MGS is perceived to be is the fault of GotP, I think... and 2 - because each game was supposed to be stand-alone, he had to retcon a few things for the next game. I'm okay with it. And 1 and 2 largely hold up, although 2 is as great in concept as in execution, which... I can appreciate that it's a genius idea executed masterfully... but Kojima's focus was on that, I think, rather than fully on making a game that was fun to play, so... it's worth playing, but replaying it isn't anywhere near as fun as replaying 3 or 5, for instance. I just refuse to acknowledge 4... which works, because cutting it out of canon doesn't affect any other games, it's tacked on at the end.)

I can't express in words how much I enjoyed this, it's hilarious and also very well thought out. Can you do a comparison for Robin Hood and the Untouchables next, not exactly sure it works but you never know. You know how every year or at least in the past for a long time there would be two of a specific type of movie, or theme or genre or whatever you want to call it. Something to compete with the really good idea but also generate more hype for said thing as a result. It seems to me like he figured that out and decided to try and be in both of said movies. He just didn't realize it doesn't work because of the fact you can only be in one place at a time and after the thing or movie in question actually comes out the idea or popularity of the concept simply goes away. He must have felt otherwise...

I love the postman the woman in this movie is gorgeous

You wouldnt get it, its an America Thing

death stranding before death stranding

O.k. watch the very last kiss at the end of the movie. The lady makes a face of total disgust, it is so intentional, why would they leave this in the final cut????? Am I the only one who has noticed?

Do, Re, Mi, Fa, So, La, Ti ... I have sat through this bloat with a friend of mine like twenty years ago on cable. He liked it. Now I see he has a copy on Blu-ray. I'd rather watch The Brown Bunny twice in one day.

The Postman is one of my favourite movies.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

I can totally respect that - and I admire its ambition.

@danielwilliamson6180

3 жыл бұрын

@@inframeout It's a good futuristic drama.

... That movie sounds and feels like fallout 4 from the point of view of preston garvey.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

It's like Preston Garvey as the main character in "Death Stranding"

My grandmother thinks that the postman is one of the greatest movies ever made plus she was a male carrier for 40 years so it really resonates with her and all I do is roll my eyes and she thinks I’m crazy because I like movies like Mad Max, the road or games like fallout she doesn’t like the idea of a post nuclear apocalyptic world the reason I like it is that the steaks are a lot higher and it’s more fun and exciting and you resonate with the characters more hoping that they’ll outlast just another day.

Thought I had this one well forgotten but now...that nauseating nostalgic McFeeling is back like the Mac attack

Thank you excellent video..

Waterworld is a super fun and cool movie, and The Postman could've been good if it was half as long...

I've seen all the flops you name checked - especially the titular Postman. And you're correct - Hudson Hawk is unfairly maligned. I very much enjoyed both recent bombs by Gore Verbinski: The Lone Ranger and The Cure For Wellness though the latter is at least an hour too long.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

"A Cure For Wellness" is a visually stunning, incredibly nasty gem of a weirdo horror movie that is burdened with - as you said - about an hours worth of garbage that should never have been filmed

@kyletitterton

3 жыл бұрын

@@inframeout The funny thing to me is that if I turned that script in for coverage I guarantee 9/10 of the services would make that same assessment. I don't understand why more mainstream scripts aren't tightened up this way before shooting.

AngryJoe, mad about something being "only" three hours, here used to be angry that something drags on for 3 hours.

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

Three hours is somehow too long and not enough. It's a darn mystery of time and space

@SchulzEricT

3 жыл бұрын

@@inframeout I mean... if it's good, 3 hours isn't enough. If it's terrible, 3 hours is a lifetime. Especially if it's terrible *and boring*.

I've got a mate whom, wherever someone mentions that Waterworld was a flop (which used to hapoen on a daily basis) likes to point out that over time it actually made its money back and that the Postman was where is truly all went wrong.

@craigsovilla6578

7 ай бұрын

Judging by your vocabulary, this movie wasn't made for you, or likely him either anyway. "Mate".

@olit-j9432

2 ай бұрын

​@craigsovilla6578 British "people" seem to completely miss the point of this movie. It seems they're allergic to patriotism, notions of eternal human hope or generally any other feel good concept. Must be the miserable weather.

Great video as usual. Thanks. By the way Denouement is pronounced Day- new- ma.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

I'll add that the ever growing list of "Now I'm kicking myself because my dumb tongue bungled another word" 🙂

@johnortiz1964

3 жыл бұрын

@@inframeout I'm from a family of teachers....it's in my blood. Love your videos !!!!!!!!

Had me until he cites incidents from 1997 that had nothing to do the U.S.

Could you survive a Postman / Majestic double screening? Could anyone?

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling that "The Majestic" may actually be okay - but I only saw it once in my teens and had a huge soft spot for Darabont and Carrey at the time...dare I destroy my nostalgia?!

Looking forward to the Hudson Hawk video

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

Hudson Hawk SLAPS

And no mention of the mule; for shame 😔.

@inframeout

Жыл бұрын

Fair point, that's a good mule. RIP

I have watched the Postman several times. Once in the theater. I was hoping it would be so bad it was good like Waterworld, but it was just boring. That said, I find it comforting in a strange way.

This movie was a very good movie

the postman name is Gordon Krantz

I remember the first time I watched The Postman, it was 31th of December, and the TV promos promiced that the movie would end along with the year, at 12 exactly... but whatever intern sheluded the film clearly didn't check its runtime, because New Year fireworks came and went and the movie was still on... The Network should just cut it at midnight, the best scenes are in the begining, when Kevin Costner and the villain have a literal competition to see who chews more scenery, and a couple of minutes later when the villain explains his backstory, pretty much predicting the appeal of living in a post-apocalyptic wasteland years before those anoying memes about zombies that where so popular in 2011 ("do you think I had any kind 9f authority before the end? I was a xerox seller!") .... FINALY SOMEONE ELSE WHO SEE THE GREATNESS OF HUTSON HAWK!

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

HUDSON HAWK RULES

Under a Cherry Moon rules.

Kojima liked it enough to remake it with Norman Reedus in a 38 hour game. That makes complete sense

I remember for a highschool class we watched both JFK and The Untouchables, and was very annoyed that Kevin Costner seemed to have the exact accent in both films. Can't say I've been a fan of him.

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

He certainly did have that "Stoic man of few words" thing down in the 90s, didn't he?

I'd never made the connection that at the begining 'the Postman' is this jobbing actor... It's like the reccuring Stephen King protagonist, the middle aged writer with a thing for chambray shirts.

I’m trying to think of which actor would be good in the lead.

I’m kinda confused. I mean, you’re correct on the whole ego thing, buts the entire point of the character. He’s one of the films villains of the film for a majority of the runtime. He’s just another selfish asshole manipulating desperate people for his own self service. He slowly grows more guilty, until he gives up his charade altogether. But his actions have unintentionally convinced people to fight for themselves. The heroes of the film are the people, not the Postman. His selfish lies and deception saved the world, and the film goes out of its way, often, to show you how undeserved the praise is. Even by the end, he isn’t the hero. He just commits to doing a simple job of helping people connect. And while they credit his actions for saving them, the point of the movie is that people have it within themselves to save each other, and Kurt each other up. And that selfish action and the pursuit of power lead to destruction and oppression. This is one of my favorite post-apocalyptic films. It’s a shame so many people miss the obvious and just choose to be bored with it.

I question the patriotism of the presenter.

It was just a ridiculous story to start off with. Nobody could make it work.

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

They should have cast Jim Carrey and just had him be a farting postman. At least that would have had a degree of charm

I enjoyed this film but then again I'm a massive simp for post-apocalypse genre fiction so my bar is pretty low

i could barely tell that the movie was even set in a post apocalypse

I tried to watch this movie and was way too distracted by the fact that one of the regular fourth chairs on Whose Line is It Anyway is the guy whose wife bangs Costner in the beginning before he gets killed by Bethlehem.

@inframeout

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god now I can't unsee it!

I am not sure I have seen this movie or not. I might have seen so many clips that my brain thinks I have seen but I am not sure.

I always get so much crap when I watch shitty films with great costume design. Dune is another one.

I love this movie dude, I think it literally is the best

@killaken2000

3 жыл бұрын

No joke. I saw it when I was kid and still enjoy it. I don't know if I'd go as far as saying it's the best but it's definitely not as bad as some people make it out to be.

@belstar1128

Жыл бұрын

Yea its quite good its flaws are minor.

This is one of my favorite movies of all time. True, it can be a little cheesy at times and the run time is too long, but it's core message of hope and rebirth from devastation is beautiful. This movie would actually be an incredible series if done right. Thoughts?

@inframeout

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree that you could make something very special from the parts here and in the source novel

I love this movie

Fabulous take as always! I'd read the book and thought it... okay. When I heard the film was three hours I took a pass. But yes, Hudson Hawk is great fun and I love it unironically. I still want a release that has a commentary track on HH!

Having seen this back in the day I can tell you the one thing I remember was Will Patton. The way he delivers the "You spelled Tyranny wrong." line is actually pretty phenomenal, he was a piece of shit. But he thought his way was best. The Postman had nothing to express his ideology, he let other characters do that for him cause it wouldn't be badass enough if he took it on himself to fix America.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

Will Paton is legitimately good in this film to be fair to him

I love this movie but it does need to be cut a bit.

I liked this daft nonsense.... But then I love Kev.

Very good but just a bit long. Sure that drops its rating a bit. However I like movies I enjoy to go longer. More so books to movies I've read. I wish the movies were 3 hours to tell what a thousand or more page book tells.

This film was absolute, fucking cack 🤣

KC wanted to get his JC/messiah on via George Miller... must I type what's missing? Don't misuse a Stacey Keech! Sadly I have always found KC a giant charisma vacuum, but Waterworld is far better. Breen's backslapping monstrosities are far more fun!

I read David Brin's "The Postman" before the movie appeared. "Gordon Krantz" was a far more interesting character than "Shakespeare," and visited more communities, even one "guided by a super computer." The Romantic-Winter-in-hiding went on and on for far too long, and the Tom Petty sequence was a WTF? moment. The soundtrack was good, though: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pW2mlalvo6WWnZs.html The Battle of the Augments was ditched in favor of a "Rule of Eight" showdown. (David Brin said that was a better solution.) "Ford Lincoln Mercury's" message: "Live and Let Live" knitted the "Restored United States of America" back together, one delivered letter at a time. (An imperfect movie that I watch to remember what should have been.)

this movie adaptation completely shat on the original book there is almost nothing left from it what a fucking waste

I recently discovered your channel and I'm loving your stuff. If I'm understanding your assessment of the bad guys' ideology, I think you're saying that it is unrealistic that this type of group was able to survive or would be a product of the 90s. I can't say agree with that. The 80s and 90s were the start of the militia movement here in the US. A significant portion of these groups have ties to white supremacist organizations. These groups have seen exponential growth in the past few years but they have always been there under the surface. People who track these groups could probably draw a line from the Oklahoma City bombing to the recent events in our capitol. I live around northern Idaho which has been one of the regional hotbeds for this kind of activity. One of the most frightening experiences of my life was getting gassed and shot at with rubber bullets while protesting this summer, and seeing members of these groups infiltrating the crowd and antagonizing the police. They want a civil war and an opportunity to dominate people they view as weak. The scenario presented in The Postman is exactly what they want to happen and are actively working toward as we speak.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your illuminating context and horrifying perspective. I hope you weren't injured during this year's protests - and thank you for making your voice heard

@AI-mg3hy

3 жыл бұрын

@@inframeout as I was running away I could see rubber bullets bouncing off light poles and paper boxes right next to me. I was fortunate to make it to the end of the block and could take cover, just got a good dose of gas. As I was recovering from that I saw a group of guys carrying an injured guy toward me. I started filming and taking pictures, they set him down and started treating him with a medics pack they had with them. That's when I started noticing the symbols on some of their clothes. Then they started noticing me. That was pretty scary too. I decided it was time to leave at point.

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

@@AI-mg3hy Fucking hell that all sounds truly harrowing and I'm super thankful you got out of there safely

You know that this movie is based off a book?

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

I do indeed (I talk about that in the video)

The only good vanity proyect done by an actor are Don Jon and that thing you do. Change my mind

@inframeout

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Hanks is a neutral/bordering on villainous supporting role in TTYD rather than a glorifying central performance, so I'd just consider it an absolutely fantastic film

@lpj2216

4 жыл бұрын

@@inframeout and JGL on Don Jon represents more toxic mascunility and how much porn can be a bad adiction as well.

This was originally an excellent (but forgettable) book by the sci-fi lord David Brin. Only the barest of premises is the same compared to the movie. The movie strays very far from the book, on into movie trope mode. The movie is heavily predictable, where the book goes for a more realistic take that borders on McCarthy's The Road, without going as far as Road went regarding bleakness. This movie predates Waterworld, so really Waterworld is worse, and can be called Postman with water in it, considering both are Costner vanity projects. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.....

Nah this movie was good 👍🏼

I quite like the postman it's quite epic but very slow moving in comparison to waterworld but the real savour is will patton as the baddie

@inframeout

3 жыл бұрын

Will Patron chews on every line he delivers and it's fantastic

Morrisey is facking terrible in all formats. The Post Man was an awesome movie.

The Postman might have worked with a trullu charismatic lead and villains that were intimidating. The movie brings up their white supremacist beliefs but its rarely brought up outside a couple of scenes. Otherwise they're generic postapocalyptic villains. They lack any memorable traits.

I just watched it. It was pretty bloated.

The Postman isn't nearly as bad as you've made it out to be. I think your slant towards anti-nationalism is jading your perspective of the picture.

The film was okay, especially compared to the other post-apocalyptic films. Why do the Mad Max films, especially Fury Road or the Predator series get so rave revues? They actually suck and offer only gratuitious violence. Postman is not top cinema, but it is entertaining. Read the novel on which it is based by David Brin for more background. It's an entertaining film, so quit being the arch critic. Make yourself comfortable, get some munchies and some drinks and relax for a while.

Disagree w your trashing of the Postman. This movie was quite unique & carried one of the central themes of the free world. If one goes around acting like a 3rd world dictator here then sooner or later someone(s) will hand said individual their ass. We 're actually built for that here(see revolutionary war). I loved this movie & watch it every time it crosses my path. That for your review. "Stuff's gettin' better."😊

The Post Man is an Isekai for right wing men.