I did this a few days ago with the old first edition Foundations. I did the Thinner and some Medium in the old pot, mixed it with a metal-ball and cut the lid of the pod - so I could just fill it from the pot into the bottle without any funnel.

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, the more they are thinned, the easier they transfer, but it seems you have hands less shaky than myself.

More great info & as always a great explanation (verbal and visual) Thank you

@VinceVenturella

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, happy to help as always. :)

Great video, my man! Do you keep the paint pots for anything else? ~Wolf-brother Methos

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

I keep them, I have more than I would ever need for any reason, but they are handy for stuff like WS Realistic Water that I pre-mix with colors and use on bases for an army to keep a consistent water color throughout.

Do you find that in order to transfer the paint from the pots to a dropper bottle using a thinner medium that you don't really need to thin the paints when using them on a wet palette? I transfered a bunch of my paint and I feel like if I even add a tiny bit of water they are almost too thin to get good coverage any more.

@VinceVenturella

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, once you've got some medium/thinner in there, it really doesn't need to be thinned much more on the wet palette.

A few late comments: I find it easier to pour the paint down a rod (plastic rod or straightened paper clip works well). The surface tension keeps the paint in contact with the rod and you only lose as much paint as sticks to the rod. US Plastics sells 15cc LDPE Boston Round bottles with caps and dropper tips for a very reasonable price. They're essentially identical to the bottles used by Reaper or Vallejo. Metallic lead is not a significant toxicity problem. (Lead salts used as pigments are the primary problem, as they're soluble, which metallic lead is not.) Pigments used in hobby paints _can_ be a problem, though, so don't lick your brushes, kids. (Older Vallejo reds and yellows are mostly cadmium paints, for instance.) ETA: If you thin with acrylic medium (Liquitex or Golden work very well), you won't get the paint breakdown problems you can get if you thin with water. If you need a thinner medium than those, you can mix some water in and the extra medium will still keep the paint from breaking down as quickly.

Hey Vince, I see you use Glaze Medium, I know the make Airbrush Thinner too. Do you use both when airbrushing?

@VinceVenturella

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I use Vallejo Airbrush thinner as my go to, it works well with every type of paint I have used.

Using the thinner medium makes sense. In previous videos you cautioned against adding water to GW paints because it breaks them down to much. I was worried about using too much water. If I have used water to remove the remaining paint in the bottle, shook and poured, but the paint was still too thick, I added some more thinner and more water. I am guessing if I use too much water it will be obvious? I tried this transferring method on some colors I don't use that much. Seems like it worked okay. The edge paint I transferred required around 8-10 drops of thinner when I was finished.

@VinceVenturella

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, in general, you want to be careful, water is the solvent in Acrylic paint and medium is the body. The more solvent you use, the more you can break down the paint. Medium keeps it working, but thinner.

While you mentioned adding agitators I always add them to all my paint bottles....turning them into rattle bottles. There is nothing like the satisfying sound of freely moving agitators to reassure one that paint is properly mixed. I recommend a couple bb's or better yet lead round split shot fishing weights (Wal-Mart) in every bottle. Sluggish agitators indicates a paint bottle in need of attention! Rattle on brother!

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

Yep, I always add agitators, it's funny you mention the lead shot, I do the same thing, though I have stopped recently out of a fear that I sometimes like my paintbrush and I am afraid I am giving myself lead poisoning. I am not and that is a stupid fear, but now it's in my head. If I have a very sluggish paint (like Scale 75, which I love, but NEEDS a good agitator to live up to it's potential), I have taken to cutting up old garbage metal miniatures that I will never use and using those pieces as agitators. It's the best use for old metal models ;)

Cheap syringes are also useful for transferring the bulk of the paint into a dropper bottle.

@VinceVenturella

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I should record this a 3rd time and mention those. :)

@markmccarron7645

2 жыл бұрын

@@VinceVenturella HC 616 - Transferring GW paints revisited. They would probably switch to dropper bottles shortly after recording :)

Hi Vince, why did you not use the thinner on the GW pot? I understand that you used the water and thinner to "clean" the pot, but if you pre thinned the paint the transfer would be a bit more easy...

@Dakkadez

8 жыл бұрын

I'm in the middle of this same project myself (about 300 GW bottles to do...yikes!) and I've been adding Liquitex Flow-Aid to the GW pot. Then I just give it a shake, and Bob's your uncle. You can order 15ml size bottles off of eBay or Amazon, I just ordered 300 of them (yikes!) for about $48 shipped. I also bought a bunch of hobbyzone.pl paint racks to put them in :)

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

I actually did before off camera, I should have mentioned that, but I did it the day before and forgot. That was actually the flow after some thinner. A very good point though, it's best to thin it first. That edge paint was very thick out of the pot, so it required more work than normal. You may not have to go as far with a layer or similar paint. YMMV. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@bruttibler100

8 жыл бұрын

I did this with 150ish paints awhile back in about a day. Great way to test your sanity! I didn't even think of a funnel(my god), so it was extra fun. It seems like the paints are super thin just from the process, but that might be just be my perception of it after I lost my mind drip drip dripping the paints into a sea of little bottles

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

Well, the layers are far thinner than that particular edge paint, but yes, the funnel is a real life saver, especially when you are as clumsy as myself. ;)

Do you transfer GW shades to dropper bottles as well, or do you use a pipette?

@VinceVenturella

5 жыл бұрын

I leave them in the pots, never found it as annoying.

Also, are there any negative side effects by using the thinner and leaving it sit in GW paint for months? If you thin it, do you have to use it right away so the paint is not ruined?

@VinceVenturella

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen any negative side effects. Most paints have thinner medium in them already, so as usual, you will need to shake.

@KerfluffinMcWooly

5 жыл бұрын

So that is why you wait until the end to use it, correct? If I have already used the water and realized that there is still more paint in there (hard to see inside the pots), and the paint is still too thick to come out, just use the thinner until I get the right consistency? And thanks again. I was looking forward to signing up for one of your classes at Adepticon but they sold out fast. Very glad to have your videos and help. I

ok ... now i understand you made this video again :) ... live and learn ;-)

@VinceVenturella

3 жыл бұрын

Yep.

Very helpful. Lugganath is apparently named after an Eldar Craftworld :)

@VinceVenturella

7 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, another strange 40k word I can't pronounce ;)

Nice share mate, I honestly just can't be bothered to transfer my paints lol

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

It is annoying, but it's just worth it in the end, pots are the devil ;)

Im interested to transfer my pots to bottles, but in the meantime I've just been clipping the pot hinges, and tap the fin inside the pot onto my wet pallette to get as much paint as I want. Let it drain into the pot a little first otherwise you'll get a lot dripping onto your wet pallette...

@VinceVenturella

3 жыл бұрын

That's a nice trick, I actually have a new video on transferring paint coming soon that is a little more concise and cleaner. :)

A timely video vince :) those Bolter shell bottles are so troublesome..even more so if your an airbrush user

@VinceVenturella

7 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, there are some good colors, especially in the edge range, but I have to get them out of those pots immediately ;)

@RedeyeX23

7 жыл бұрын

+Vince Venturella are you thinning them enough for transfer or for airbrush as well ? I'm thinking of using game air Vallejo , are they as good as model colour ?

@VinceVenturella

7 жыл бұрын

So I think them down, but not quite to airbrush level. I use a little thinner when going into the airbrush, so I let that take it the rest of the way, but keep it a little thicker for brush use. As to the Game Air, yes, they were my paints of choice for a long, long time and I still use them frequently, just intermixed with Scale75 and Warcolours (All three are fantastic, just for slightly different purposes). I used Game Air for both Airbrush and Brush and never had any issues.

@RedeyeX23

7 жыл бұрын

+Vince Venturella many thanks

May be too late for this but next time you do this why not try using a stir straw or small straw kept on the out side of the funnel and only so long that it will not be covered by the filling squeeze bottle..... so the air has a way to escape.

@VinceVenturella

5 жыл бұрын

No, it's absolutely right, I should have used a pour guide for sure.

Great video but there isn't a GW color that I need quite that bad. You're buying an expensive paint then losing part of it to move it out of their dumb and wasteful pot into a proper bottle. Your mixing technique is good though, you're probably getting a decent final mix without breaking the pigment suspension.

@linzenmeyer

6 жыл бұрын

Actually not that expensive. I pay 3.25 per 10ml pot and thin this to about 12 to 15ml then transfer to dropper bottles. The end result? The paints last 250x's longer and are pre-thinned thereby reducing my painting time by about 30%. You end up wasting WAY less transferring them to droppers than letting it sit in the pot and crust up in the cap.

@nicolesteele6000

6 жыл бұрын

True. Howver, I bought gw paints as a beginner. I probably won't buy any more for multiple reasons but this is good to have for people who were attracted by the branding.

@Winterydee

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicolesteele6000 - The largest problem with the GW pots is that they don't seal very well and dry out much faster than the paints in dropper bottles. So of you're not using those GW paints fast enough, it's just far more cost effective to transfer them to dropper bottles. Plus you have a far easier time and greater control of the amount of paint you are dispensing with dropper bottles as well.

@nicolesteele6000

4 жыл бұрын

@@Winterydee since i posted that I've been painting much longer and agree with what you wrote! I must have had stockholm syndrome. I wouldnt recommend them at all.

Warcolours sell empty dropper bottles from their website if anyone needs empty bottles.

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

An excellent point, and their dropper bottle are absolutely the best around.

Sure seems like a lot of wasted paint...isn't that paint mega $$$? Why not just thin in the original pot as you call it? Then transfer the thinner stuff if you need too. Thanks for sharing...

@VinceVenturella

7 жыл бұрын

You can do both. I just find it's easy to get a little too runny and then you have a mess on your hands, so I go for this way. In the end, I hate all pot paints, so I only go with GW paints (outside of Shades and Technical) for very specific colors.

@linzenmeyer

6 жыл бұрын

Actually not that expensive. I pay 3.25 per 10ml pot and thin this to about 12 to 15ml then transfer to dropper bottles. The end result? The paints last 250x's longer and are pre-thinned thereby reducing my painting time by about 30%. You end up wasting WAY less transferring them to droppers than letting it sit in the pot and crust up in the cap.

You would have been much better off using something hydrophobic for your funnel. you could reuse it after too :P

@VinceVenturella

7 жыл бұрын

True, but that would have required me to get up from my seat and who wants that ;)

@danielchalmers9815

7 жыл бұрын

That is also true, if there is one true beauty about humanity it's that our laziness makes for wonders of necessity.

What a mess, i see your technique has improved since the ol days. 😏

@VinceVenturella

2 жыл бұрын

Slightly yes. :)

But, I agree. You used a pretty wasteful means of transferring.

@VinceVenturella

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are some better smoother ways of transfer, I have just found this the quickest and easiest and with most colors, they last for years and years, but you are correct, you could be much cleaner.

I would die of anxiety doing this.

@VinceVenturella

4 жыл бұрын

You can also use a big pipette if you want to make your life easier and less stressful. :)

@Iron_Father88

4 жыл бұрын

@@VinceVenturella nice! Thanks for all the great FREE vids you pump out!

Just seems a way to waste a load of paint that's already expensive, think I'll just stick to the pots and deal with it.

@VinceVenturella

5 жыл бұрын

Fair enough, for me, the droppers are just worth it, but to each their own of course.

@druidobianco9734

4 жыл бұрын

Vince Venturella do you think it’d be worth it if you didn’t had and airbrush?

I think that's not a good way to do it. So much paint got wasted and thats sad.

@VinceVenturella

3 жыл бұрын

It's not, I am actually doing a new video on this very soon.

I'm always SUPER sexy, the GW Label comes right off almost like a static sticker and will stick to bottles (as long as they don't have labels on them already). Oh snap, my wife is calling me now for husbandly duties. It works, nahmean?

@VinceVenturella

8 жыл бұрын

They really do pop right of, and it just makes it so easy to identify later, and you have to be super-sexy, it's the only way to be ;)

Hahahaha this video is for "How not to transfer your paints that way" Half of the 12ml wasted in funnel,hands,and outside of bottle. If you thin the paint before the 1st transfer and use a smaller funnel you wont waste the paint around.

How did you record this, look back at it and think "yep, people need to see this"? There are no redeeming qualities to this video dude. To call this a tutorial is shameful and will get new painters confused and frustrated.

@VinceVenturella

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I disliked this one enough that I recorded a better version - kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4eHlqWShpXYl5c.html