Check out Ready to Harvest’s video on Mennonites here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dq2Tt9ucY8LIYNY.html

@ScholasticaMaan

Жыл бұрын

✝️

@joshuam8497

Жыл бұрын

Came here from Ready to Harvest!

@davidmfoxe

Жыл бұрын

“And then there were those who thought the chart did not go far enough…”

@Ggdivhjkjl

Жыл бұрын

Please be sure to mention the Seventh Day Baptists in your video on Baptists. If not for their important historical role, then at least for the fact that the Adventist movement received its Sabbatarian doctrine from the SDBs, specifically, from Rachel Oakes-Preston.

@Sam-rf7cb

Жыл бұрын

Great video! One mistake, there is no "Mormon church" it is The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Most people misunderstand that church, but if they should know one thing about the church, it's the church's Name because The name shows that we believe in Jesus Christ, and that we believe we are the same new testament church Jesus set up but restored in modern days.

The fact that you have to do an extensive section on corrections and additions as you interweave more groups into the chart, or better contextualize existing groups demonstrates how complex the history of Christianity is, and it's one of my favourite parts of this project.

@jasonmurray4714

Жыл бұрын

This has been great. Now when someone says “I’m a Christian,” oh really?

@delusionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonmurray4714 It usually depends on how much that person knows about their faith and its history, which a lot of times isn't much if they're not a student of it. I've had conversations go off the rails because I described people as "religious" and they refuse the label, only attributing that to other faiths (Catholics, in particular) despite the fact that these are people who believe in God, the divinity of Christ, and who regularly attend weekly services. Then you have people who use "Christian" as a synonym for "Protestant", as opposed to "Roman Catholic" and are pretty much unaware of distinctions other than that. It's a wild world out there.

@jasonmurray4714

Жыл бұрын

@@delusionnnnn That’s kind of what I was driving at. People don’t really grasp how complicated and deep history actually is, but they talk like they know.

@NotDaJayC

Жыл бұрын

It also demonstrates his intelligence and commitment

@whatthebeepvideos

Жыл бұрын

If they keep up the corrections they will never be done.

As a Hicksite Quaker I'm always happy to see somebody mention us who doesn't think we look like an oatmeal box. Thanks!

@muddyboots7753

9 ай бұрын

Thanks to you guys, we enjoy a healthy meal everyday. Thank you for inventing Oats 😋

@user-xp5id1kh4r

5 ай бұрын

Do you guys really just sit in a circle/square/shape in silence under a church for "Sunday service" and individually read the bible in silence, then get up and leave, maybe fellowship a little bit, and do the sacraments rarely?

@teucer915

5 ай бұрын

@@user-xp5id1kh4r more or less! The silence can be broken if someone feels moved by the Spirit to share something, after which everyone sits contemplating what was said. This typically happens a couple times during any given week's meeting.

If I could make one suggestion, I'd add an "other" section in the "Ten Largest Christian Communions" so we can get an idea for how much of Christianity worldwide is accounted for in the top 10.

@Hooray4Kierkegaard

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestions! I agree with adding 'other', especially

@jackross-pilkington9102

Жыл бұрын

bump

@jdotoz

Жыл бұрын

A majority is accounted for in the top 1.

@aleckazamproductions8139

Жыл бұрын

Bump

@Thelaretus

Жыл бұрын

​@@jdotoz In factory the majority (about 51%) of all Christians are Catholic.

Episode 2: "Wow this chart is already getting so complicated." Episode 3: Martin Luther: "Hold my beer."

@Jen39x

Жыл бұрын

Yup that’s what closed communion does for a faith- seems a bit non Christ like but most are formed only with great heart ache among those who lead the movement

@takeurpills6024

Жыл бұрын

This is episode 4

@tommyr9531

11 ай бұрын

More like hold my thesis 😂

@FATHOLLYWOODB123

9 ай бұрын

Hold my Bible*

@Lauren-vd4qe

4 ай бұрын

that wd be ale

So glad you mentioned Flushing, Queens and the Flushing Remonstrance. The Flushing Quaker meeting is still alive and well, in its original 17th century meeting house in Queens, NYC. As a member of Brooklyn Meeting it is great to have our New York roots acknowledged.

@revinhatol

Жыл бұрын

18:52

@igor2301

Жыл бұрын

Well that’s cool.

@DarklordZagarna

Жыл бұрын

Somewhat ironic then that Flushing's most famous (fictional) denizen is extremely Jewish...

I'm happy you chose to add Korean Presbyterian churches in the chart, mainly because I belong to one of them, but I did think it was worth being mentioned as it consists the largest bodies of prebysterian churches in the world... thank you for mentioning

@Ggdivhjkjl

Жыл бұрын

Kang Pan-sok, the mother of the Great Leader Kim Il-Sung, was also a Korean Presbyterian.

@tenthclassgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@Ggdivhjkjl Ah yes, a "great" leader indeed.

@ranelgallardo7031

Жыл бұрын

It's interesting to know that Korea has a sizeable Christian population.

@daudkim99

Жыл бұрын

@Ranel Gallardo I am interested in that fact too.... Based on what I read, South Korean Christianity (protestantism especially) played role as a major channel for receiving American charity and economic support, bringing them to quite strong position in politics and economic field

@aquilae1670

Жыл бұрын

@@daudkim99 Are there any underground missions to give the Gospel to North Koreans?

I like how he addressed the Big Elephant on the Room. The Quaker Oats 😅

Might I just add, I knew Christianity is a complex beast, but the Protestant branch IS OFF THE CHARTS! Still cant wrap my head around all the branches (must have been a nightmare to research!), especially considering most of these denominations arent more then a couple of centuries old! And are yet so divergent and numerous!! Hoped to learn more about the Baptists, but ill be patient until the next time. Great vid as usual!!

@ingolfringolfrson1577

Жыл бұрын

That’s how we can be sure the Catholic branch is the one true church

@cloudkitt

Жыл бұрын

@@ingolfringolfrson1577 The Eastern Orthodox might have something to say about that 😄

@ingolfringolfrson1577

Жыл бұрын

@@cloudkitt They we’re all Catholic until the Great Schism Catholics/Orthodox can trace their lineage all the way to the feet of Jesus Christ. Protestants it’s just one petulant whine after the other. Anglicans being one of the worst

@Alex-mn1fb

Жыл бұрын

@@ingolfringolfrson1577 Disagree. Popes accumulated too much authority and subverted their own church for temporal power and influence, many times for petty personal reasons. The Catholic unity is the direct result of centuries of oppressive persecution of dissidents coming from the highest possible instance, whether from the Popes themselves, or the Emperors, Kings and Princes they had sway over.

@russrandall4834

Жыл бұрын

Might have to turn this chart landscape to get everyone in

As a British Quaker, it's a would be nice if the chart included a bit more of the Quakers in Britain (especially since that's where it's started!). It would be interesting to explore a bit more about what happened to the Friends in Britain since George Fox and how they evolved separately to Friends in the US. It would also be good to include bits about Friends outside of these two countries, like in Kenya, for instance - it would be a shame to reduce such a diverse group down to just those found in a single country. Besides that, I've really been enjoying this series so far!

@michaeljay6349

Жыл бұрын

And the American chart was extremely simplified.... Now, lets see -- for British Quakers, we have BYM, IYM, and the primitives; other than Ireland and GB being different groups -- very different groups... I guess the chart would have to be based on periods -- and I'm not sure I'd like to guess those dates; I'd leave that to specialists.

@josephcernansky1794

Жыл бұрын

And are you aware why they are called..."Quakers"? A very charismatic group they were

@emilyniedbala

Жыл бұрын

+++ Yes! As someone from Pennsylvania, I was fascinated when I started learning about the differences and divergences of the British Quakers vs those that came to the US (and founded my state, essentially)

@MrSinclairn

Жыл бұрын

@@emilyniedbala Also instrumental in the conquest of the main British West Indian colony of Jamaica(1655),as the admiral of the invasion fleet Sir William Penn was the father/namesake of Pennsylvania's Quaker founder.

@emmafvsmith

Жыл бұрын

I second this! The quakers in Britain are fascinating and often deeply loving people

Fascinating. I wonder if the Shakers should be added, though? I know you have to draw the line somewhere, but they were a pretty big part of colonial America as well.

I'm no expert, but having dealt indirectly with a number of Hutterite colonies in Alberta, I think it's worth noting a few things. Firstly, that, at least from what I've seen, heard, and ready, their theology is not based on a rejection of modern technology in the same way as the Amish; their focus is instead on communal living and sharing resources (though dress, etc. is still very traditional as mentioned). The Hutterite colonies I knew of definitely have cell phones as you mention, as well as computers, Internet access, heavy machinery, cars and trucks, etc. What really distinguishes them is that none of these things are owned by individuals; they're owned by the colony as a whole. Most are mass-scale farms with all the trappings of modern agriculture. I always found them particularly fascinating.

@TheOwenMajor

Жыл бұрын

As a Mennonite, who studied Anabaptist history, his guide is a good simplification, but it is *is* a simplification. Generally speaking, however, use of cell phones and computers is supposed to be restricted to business and operations. Granted when the farm boss is in his truck I'm sure he's playing candy crush.

It seems you forgot to add Lebanon in your map of denominations. It should be yellow. According to the International Foundation for Electoral Systems (IFES) Lebanon is 44.36% Christian and 31.76% Catholic (25.52% Maronite; 5.62% Melkite; 0.62% Armenian Catholic plus some few others that are too small to be counted) (Edit) I forgot to mention nowadays there are more Catholics than Protestants in Germany

@danfsteeple

Жыл бұрын

Lebanon has a significant minority of Greek Orthodox as well

@cjaoun23240

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Greek Orthodoxy is the 2nd largest christian group in Lebanon after Maronites.

@AlphaGeekgirl

Жыл бұрын

Why does Wikipedia say something vastly different? Islam ~28.7% Sunni ~28.4% Shi'a ~0.6% Other (Alawite & Ismaili) Christianity ~22% Maronite Catholic ~8% Greek Orthodox ~5% Melkite Catholic ~4% Armenian (Orthodox & Catholic) ~1% Minorities ~1% Evangelical Druzism ~5.2% Druze

@magnusb9783

Жыл бұрын

@@AlphaGeekgirl that’s not vastly different though is it

@cxrlxshnrq

Жыл бұрын

@@AlphaGeekgirl that's another source. As I said there is no official estimates so I think both of them are valid. The reason why I didn't choose your source is because it seems it includes refugees as well. I think it's very unlikely that there are as many Sunni as there as Shias in Lebanon. Sunnis tend to emigrate more and have a lower TFR than Shias.

While I don't consider myself a "religious" person, I am fascinated by this series. Having grown up between an area settled by Anabaptists and an area settled by the Presbyterian and having both in my background, as well as having been around many other churches. It was also a very ecumenical community and remains so today. We have always celebrated together. I also find the connections between the various groups and why the area has developed historically as it has fascinating.

@AndreSamosir

Жыл бұрын

In this more divided world it seems, this is a refreshing news!

@badcornflakes6374

Жыл бұрын

​@@AndreSamosir I think the more we see and know, the more divided it seems.

you could also add the shakers to the chart! from what i understand they were an offshoot of the quakers (occuring in england, then migrating to the American colonies also seeking religious freedom). supposedly Maine is the most significant region for them, but there is a former shaker village here in kentucky! there are only 2 shakers remaining today, mostly because they are entirely celibate, only gaining members through conversion. they also allowed women to hold spiritual leadership roles.

@pinifera6069

Жыл бұрын

I believe the Shaker village in Maine has gained a new member, so they're at 3 since 2020.

@JacekJurewicz

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to say the same, I'm pretty sure the Shakers should have shown up somewhere alongside the Quakers.

@eliplayz22

Жыл бұрын

I've actually been to the Shaker Village twice. First time was to just look around and learn about the Shakers. Second time was a Native American craft fair.

@careaidegirl31

Жыл бұрын

I live in British Columbia and many First Nations are Shakers.

@EebstertheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Shaker Heights, Ohio was also originally founded by Shakers (though they didn't give it that name).

As a family genealogist with Friends ancestors, I found this quite useful. Thank you.

As a direct line descendant of Alexander Mack, I literally squealed when he was mentioned. Thank you so much for making this easy to understand. Interestingly, there is a camp named after Alexander in northern Indiana near a large Amish and Mennonite population.

You should add the Old Lutherans to the lutheran section of your chart. They were founded in 1830 in Prussia (Germany) in protest against the state sponsored union with reformed christians. They still exist in Germany as an own denomination.

One of my neighbours is an agnostic Quaker, he's always really friendly and polite. Super laid back. I would protect him with my life. Interestingly, he only ever says 'morning' or 'evening', it's never 'good morning' or 'good evening'. And always makes an effort to see how I'm doing, which I find really nice.

@archdukerichard7100

3 ай бұрын

Agnostic Quaker? As in, he follows the teachings but does not believe?

@espiritulibre100

18 күн бұрын

@@archdukerichard7100 cuando un hombre cuaquero tiene novio tiende a ser agnostico sera internacionalista ...en reuniones nada cristianas hay mucha gente buscando una iglesia conlibertad y los cuaqueros son muy libres ..

This is my favorite series on KZread right now. Excellent job. Thank you!

Good vid,and the last segment about chocolate-making Quaker families [Cadbury,Fry,Rowntree] could also lead to a future family tree,showing their marriage alliances,as they all still exist as British high society/landed gentry families,along with their family links to the Quaker-led banking sector,via the Gurneys,Lloyds[of Dolobran] and Barclays. 👌👍

Extremely interesting series! As what would be considered a conservative mennonite, hearing the complete history of Christianity has been fascinating!

I’m disappointed you didn’t add the Doukhobors! And Russian Folk-Protestants in general :(! After being basically exiled from the Russian Empire around 9000 moved to western Canada, mostly Saskatchewan and BC, where they still are today. They are super interesting! Even forgoing the bible in-favour of Hymns only, they also had a split around WW1 which formed the Freedomites. They are sometimes called one of the Peace Churches so I expected them here 😢 otherwise this series is truly wonderful by the way, I love it I just wanted to see this group

@MrJMB122

Жыл бұрын

Their not Protestants. They not even influence by them it more like folk Russian Orthodox break away.

The Lollards: I was missing you! Good to see you recognised again.

I just went through Cedar Rapids, Iowa yesterday and saw the world's largest cereal mill - their Quaker Oats plant.

As someone who's always been fascinated by this sort of thing, I'm quite grateful for this whole series!

This is awesome work. But there must be at least 8 episodes. There is branches of oldbelievers, and some denominations originated in Russia( but now they are in , for example, Canada and Brasil)

My Oma and Opa were members of a Brethren Church. I never knew Brethren were a 'peace church,' which is ironic to me because they were good conservative war hawks. Overall I am loving this series!

@guardianofthehill

Жыл бұрын

I find it awesome how some of the descendants of German and Dutch immigrants to America still use the terms "Oma" and "Opa" to refer to their grandparents, because it shows that there is still a noticeabe connection between us modern Germans and the modern Dutch and our very distant relatives in the Americas.

@johnpannebaker5757

Жыл бұрын

@@guardianofthehill Best part of the story is that my Oma and Opa have English ancestry but lived in very German influenced Northern Indiana. My Nan and Pap, who are of German ancestry, lived in an Italian influenced part of Pennsylvania, hence the use of the very Italian terms Nan and Pap!

@margefoyle6796

Жыл бұрын

Were they Plymouth brethren, perchance? My husband comes from a family of closed Plymouth brethren, and they are not exactly peace loving. His father was in WWII.

@josephcernansky1794

Жыл бұрын

yes Brethren do consider themselves as the "peace" church. I knew an older man, an elder in the Brethren Chruch that told the story that one Sunday Bible class the class leader was being the typical milley mouth "Ned Flanders" and this was during the First Gulf War....he asked the class, 'Would Jesus send tanks and planes and bombs to Iraq to kill the enemy soldiers?" My friend spoke up and said..."NO...He'd send a plague and WIPE THEM ALL OUT!!" LOL Of course, the class was little taken back by that...but he added..."Haven't you ever read the Bible? God sent fire and flood and plagues and all sorts of things to wipe out an entire people...man, woman, child and yes, even baby!".......Those peacenik hippies...probably like yourself that vote Demonratic Anti-Christ....have a very hard time with THAT!

@janestaton

Жыл бұрын

@@guardianofthehill That's what I call my grandparents on my moms side. My grandmother is German.

I always love the difference in rhetoric in America vs Europe. In America, the movement of religious denominations from Europe to America is characterized as people escaping persecution while in Europe it’s characterized as religious fanatics leaving to practice their crazy beliefs somewhere else.

@TheOwenMajor

Жыл бұрын

I mean one side's "Rhetoric" was burning heretics at the stake... so theirs that. Europeans have never understood the concept of freedom. Their so-called "enlightenment" was spread by a ruthless conquering dictator...

@byrongreene6234

Жыл бұрын

Two sides of the same coin.

@MsSgent

Жыл бұрын

When Oliver Cromwell is too liberal.

Thanks so much for amending the Georgian church entry. I love your channel and would love to see some Georgian content. Bagrationi family tree would be amazing

As a Baptist I’m hyped for the next episode

@bondatcom26

Жыл бұрын

Same

Glad to see the Scottish Episcopal Church on the map both because it's independent (and not tiny) but also exactly for the reason you stated: Their connection to the US Episcopal Church, felt weird having them coming from the english church (though obviously they have roots there) given the history.

My great-grandfather broke from the River Brethren. We’re not River Brethren but we still interact with my paternal relatives in Lancaster. The River Brethren name comes from the Susquehanna River in Lancaster

I can't wait when the chart is complete to buy this chart❤

Staying tuned for episode 7. 5th generation A/G girl here! I’m excited to see your attention to detail applied to the varied branches of the Pentecostal beliefs. A fun point if you haven’t considered yet, Church of God in Christ - the Pentecostal denomination Denzel Washington and his family follow - broke from the A/G over racial issues back in the early 20th century.

@keithwolfe1942

Жыл бұрын

The CoGiC is actually 7 to 8 years older than the A/G. The split wasn't unfriendly. There were segregation laws in several US states that made it against the law for certain groups to worship together. There were several early pentecostal preachers that were jailed, not prison, but jailed for baptizing black and white folks together in on baptism tank, pond, river. Note: no one is really white nor totally black. There were other things happening, but covers part of it.

i discovered this channel and series about an hour and a half ago and just binged all of them in a row. fantastic!!! so much amazing research and wonderful history storytelling. thanks to all the team and matt!! i know every decision on the map must be such a painstaking one to make (esp with all the wonderful and thoughtfully made edits), so much thanks!!

@margefoyle6796

Жыл бұрын

Me, too!

This series, should be a Netflix series or PBS. Even CTV and Cbc can certainly play it. People can learn something very interesting!

Wow this is really good. As a Christian this is really helpful for me to see where different beliefs and denominations come from. So this is much appreciated. Also you and Ready to Harvest are the perfect compliment to each other on this subject. He dives into specifics of beliefs, whereas your chart helps me to visualize how they are connected. Well done.

I really do appreciate your attention to detail, as well as your willingness to consistently correct/adjust your chart as you continue to work on it.

Glad to hear you will be covering the Latter Day Saints / Mormons. I'm doing genealogy for my family, and am learning that one branch is heavily Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (That is a mouthful of a denomination name.) RLDS, now knows as the Community of Christ.

This is why the Catholic church was so hardcore about Heresy, precisely to prevent all these confusing sects forming making everything so complicated.

14:01 I think one area that is missing is the congregations of 2 Missionary Churches in North America which formed from the Mennonites who embraced pietism and revivalism. The Missionary Church and the Evangelical Missionary Church of Canada are often forgot about but their 600+ congregations in North America are an important part of the Anabaptist fabric that exists today! Thanks Matt for another great video.

Great series of videos. I've been looking forward to each new part of this series. Well done Matt and team.

Interesting video, considering I live in Pennsylvania with these various groups living around me. My best friend in school was Brethern, while Amish and Mennonites are in various nearby communities. Many places are named Quaker this and that in the area. Nice to see how they all relate to each other.

My mother's family is Mennonite, they settled in the US by way of Ukraine. I didn't know there were different kinds of Mennonite, but it's cool to see here.

@mjbe

Жыл бұрын

My dad's family as well! 👋 , distant neighbor!

This is a fascinating series! Thank you! I'd be interested in learning more about the Quakers in America, and how the American Friends Service Committee fits into the chart.

@michaeljay6349

Жыл бұрын

AFSC doesn't fit into the chart; but for a brief history, AFSC was strongly related to Friends United Meeting, originally. It was formed to manage alternative service for WW1 conscientious objectors, and ended up among other things managing refugee camps, running feeding programs, and helping Europe rebuild after the war. Eventually, it became its own organization without a Friends body controlling it; and currently, there are few Quakers in its organizational structure. Current American Quakerism has 20ish autonomous Yearly Meetings... which are divided on geographical and ideological lines. Each one has its own book of discipline. There are 3 denominational' bodies and most YM's are members of one or two of these; however there are several that are not members of any of them. There are 3 more ideological groups that have yearly meetings: "Conservative," "Beanite," and "Holiness" that don't have any sort of 'denominational office' to connect the YM's in these families... I'm sure with recent splits someone will come up with a new classification name to describe them too. Even going within these wider grouping, there is some variety of local custom... basically :) people do what works for them, each meeting has its own character.

Enjoying this series... but now I need to see some sort of "history of chocolate" chart.

@bethhentges

Жыл бұрын

For that thank the Maya of Guatemala.

@thinktoomuchb4028

Жыл бұрын

@@bethhentges I think it goes back at least as far as the Olmec. And, probably, the Spanish got it from the Aztecs. But the Maya are surely important in the history. Sounds like the beginning of a really interesting chart, right?

As someone who has strong Quaker leanings, I found this video rather interesting, ta. 🙂 Any plans to cover the Unitarains?

Not sure if this is mentioned yet, but may you consider adding the Personal Ordinariate (aka Anglican Ordinariate)? Made up of Anglicans, Episcopalians, and Methodists that have reentered communion with the Catholic Church. Although they’re incorporated into the Latin Church, they retain much of their Anglican culture, practices, and spirituality whilst accepting Catholic theology and recognising the pope as head of the Church. They also use a modified form of the Roman liturgical rite known as Divine Worship, formerly and still colloquially called Anglican Use.

Hi, Matt, very interesting series you've got here. Great job. I just want to point out two things about two small denominations which may be too small for your chart but I would like to mention them anyway, since they are in my country. So I am Faroese and we have two denominations that you arguably could call unique. Or unique-ish. Anyway, in 2007 the Lutheran Faroese People's Church split from the Danish Lutheran Church and has thus become probably the smallest national church today. It's still pretty similar to the Danish Lutheran Church and while I don't think it'll ever become incompatible with it there are some interesting features to it. For instance, it's common that priests aren't always at a sermon and that it's usually a non-ecclestical deacon that just reads an old sermon as part of the main idea. It's hard to explain in detail but it's something that should be experienced I think. The second is what I thought was going to be today's topic but I see that it isn't. So the Plymouth Brethren and the Open Brethren at that has a daughter denomination in the Faroe Islands. In the late 19th or early 20th century a Scottish missionary came to the Faroes and started spreading the Brethren here. As a result the Brethren (which we call Brøðrasamkoman) is the 2nd largest denomination in the Faroe Islands at around 10-12%. Interestingly, they are also called Baptists but as I can see from this they don't exactly fall under that label. But still interesting. I know these are still small and I don't know if they will appear on your chart but hopefully you are seeing this and will at least find the info interesting. Keep up the good work!

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@gmg9010

Жыл бұрын

The Turtle of Damascus ?

@jujunorman4695

Жыл бұрын

The great atuin?

As a Pennsylvanian from birth, I’ve obviously been aware of our Quaker origins with religious freedom and the abundance of Mennonites and Amish here, but I guess I never really fully made the connection of that being why those Anabaptist groups ended up here… always lover learning something new!

I cant wait for the second coming, then this tree can be slimmed down a bit

Just to make clear the Scottish episcopal Church is still going and is still independent of the church of England.

You should add the Shakers as well, a fun offspring of the Quaker church focused on gender equality in the church

@aliceewing9417

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was waiting for him to mention Shakers

Amazing work so far! I'd suggest you add the Shakers(broke off the quakers) since they are historically significant and down to 2 members and will soon be extinct. I would also suggest you add to your upcoming Baptist Episode the Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB) who broke off the Southern Baptist Convention during and after the Fundamentalist-Modernist debate due to a disagreement with perceived liberal theology in the SBC and the New Independent Fundamental Baptists (NIFB) who broke off of the IFB and were founded by Stephen Anderson in 2017(or Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist church in the mid to late 1950s depending on how you look at it as they share ideology but not all points of theology since Phelps didn't call himself NIFB and is technicality from the primitive Baptist tradition not the SBC and identifies as a Calvinist/Reformed and Anderson isn't Calvinist/Reformed) due to perceived liberalism in the IFB since he and the Westboro Baptist church are also very significant in current events. Perhaps a dotted line from both primitive Baptist and IFB to the NIFB? Thanks and I look forward to the other videos and buying the chart!

@greywolf7577

Жыл бұрын

My grandparents used to live in a neighborhood called "Shaker Heights" because apparently the area used to have Shakers in it.

@DrGero15

Жыл бұрын

@@greywolf7577 Their anti-sex views and the closing of membership means they are doomed. There are only 2 members left. The will live on in history forever though.

@EebstertheGreat

Жыл бұрын

@@greywolf7577 Shakers established a small village there, and a few years after they abandoned the area, railroad tycoons M.J. and O.P. Van Sweringen built Shaker Village on the same land, which later became Shaker Heights when it achieved city status.

@cswrye

Жыл бұрын

I didn't get a good look at the Baptist section of the chart, but I definitely agree that the Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB) should be included. I think that people underestimate just how much influence they have in the rural South, and by extension, on American politics. Bob Jones University is an IFB university (officially it's non-denominational, but everyone knows it's really IFB) that was the topic of a major U.S. Supreme Court civil rights case. Losing that case is what prompted Jerry Falwell, Sr. to form the Moral Majority, which influenced the Republican Party to become associated with evangelical Christianity, something that continues to this day.

@DrGero15

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@@cswrye Yes they should be on there since the lowest estimate of their numbers is almost 9 million. and I think the NIFB should be as well since they have also had a large influence and are different than the IFB.

great video matt, please keep up your amazing work!!!

I'm so excited for the poster to drop Matt, the work you're putting in is so impressive!!

I'm very early in the video but I just wanted to express how hyped I am for the inclusion of Lollards in the chart! Learned of their existence from Crusader Kings 2 and did some research and found myself very quickly ranking them as basically my favourite "flavour" of Christianity.

This was such an interesting video in an already interesting series! Thank you! Great work!

Another great video! Loving the series!

Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

Love this series!!!

Been waiting for this, a great series!

Absolutely love the videos amazing work! Loving the religious studies content!

Great! Would love to see the Avignon schism and more Gnostic and ante-Nicene detail represented :)

I love this kind of series. Thank you for spending the time to research it! It would be amazing if you could do a similar video for other religions. I’d love to see a video series on Jewish denominations/movements

as always, excellent presentation. Looking forward for the next to follow and subsequently buying several copies of the physical charts.

i like how you are still adding stuff to the older sections. :)

I recommend adding the date the groups went extinct to the chart!

Even though there are literally only 2 left, it’s a shame you didn’t mention the Shakers (“shaking quakers”)

I have been watching this series of videos on Christian denominations just recently, and I find it thoroughly engrossing! Thank you for making these videos and this chart. I look forward to more!

I was excited for this episode because some of my ancestors were Mennonites who came over to the US with William Penn.

Bravo. Enjoy seeing how the chronological math visually displays history in your videos. Hopefully, scholars will One day accept your work as being requisite in the same manner as The Peoples History of the United States. Would really like to see you take on a Timeline of Caesar’s Messiah.

When discussing the Quakers, I was hoping you would bring up the Shakers. I know they are a small group, but they were an important part of the history of my area. These days, Shakers are nearly extinct, but they were more numerous in the past.

Truly fantastic work. Kudos/Props to you and your team. Looking forward to more...keep it coming.

Thanks Matt 🙏❤

You should add the shakers officially the United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing. They broke off from Quakers and actually even prevented anyone else from joining them meaning theres only 2 left in the present day

@Ggdivhjkjl

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Agreed the Shakers should be added. Any group that forbids both marriage and new converts has a way of dying out pretty fast. The Shakers have some interesting dances though.

The podcast Dan Carlin's Hardcore History did cover a group of Anabaptists who took over the German town of Munster in the 1530s. They locked the town down and were planning on the imminent return of Christ. The town wound up starving and they were forced out by enemy soldiers sneaking in overnight. The leaders faced brutal execution and the cages their corpses were displayed in are still there as a warning to others.

Hi mat I’m very excited I’m commenting even before watching, I wanted to comment about the mistakes u already fixed in the first episode after reading the comments, but I didnt because I didnt expect you would fix them… good job man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I am in awe of your work.......

@usefulcharts Minor and somewhat pedantic correction; The Seventh-day Adventist Church uses a hyphen and doesn't capitalize "day." I'm a communication professional who used to work for the church headquarters and we were very particular about the naming convention. :)

@UsefulCharts

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Thanks! I'll fix it.

@Ggdivhjkjl

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@@UsefulCharts Please note that the Seventh Day Baptists, on the other hand, do use a capital "D" without a hyphen. I look forward to seeing them included in your episode on Baptists :)

Slightly disappointed you didn't add the Anglican Ordinariate to the chart in this episode. I don't know if you saw my comment on the last video, but to remind you, Pope Benedict XVI established it on November 4, 2009 with Anglicanorum Coetibus as a way for Anglican parishes to convert to Catholicism while retaining their liturgical traditions. I assume you had so much to add that this flew under the radar.

@gregariagirl

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Maybe he will add it later since it is so recent? If the chart is going in time order, that is. But yes, so much to cover, I'm sure it's hard to get everything.

Thank you for doing these videos, they are very informative.

I can’t wait for every new episode! Who knew Kit Kats were so old🤷🏼‍♂️?

You could also put manicheism, next to mandaeism. It came from gnosticism and was once a big religion that even competed with christianity, today it is still practiced in fujian.

Hi! I absolutely LOVE your content! I can literally binge watch your KZread channel. Your charts and videos are so incredibly informative and unbiased. We need more people like you who are well-educated and present information in an unbiased manner. And frankly, if I could, I would get ALL of your charts, because that’s how much I love your work and devotion. As a linguist, and someone who also loves history, timelines, etc., your material never gets old. So, thank you so much for all you do!!!

Graduate of BBC in Springfield Mo and look forward to hearing what you say about the BBFI. Love the channel!

The Hicksite schism wasn't because of slavery, which had already been condemned by the Friends General meetings in America. It was doctrinal. Elias Hicks taught that the Holy Spirit present in meeting has priority even over Holy Scripture, a very contentious belief.

@michaeljay6349

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It might be fair to say it was partially about engagement with culture. Orthodox Friends met in 1830 (after the Hicks separation) to make a list of Orthodox beliefs and testimonies.... among which was not engaging with the government. Joseph John Gurney was an English abolitionist Friend who visited the Americas to preach -- and Orthodox Friends suffered splits based on his ministry starting in the late 30's. I wasn't aware of a general meeting before 1830... though yes, Every YM all adopted a testimony against slavery before the division related to Hicks.

You should add the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland, which is the state church of Finland, alongside the other Nordic Lutheran churches.

@revinhatol

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And Iceland!

You mentioned William Penn and his proclamation of religious tolerance in his colony. My father's ancestors, a family of Swiss German Mennonites fleeing religious persecution in Europe, came to Pennsylvania to settle in 1701. They founded the village of Brickerville in northern Lancaster County. It is still there to this day, population of about 1300. The Brickers stayed in Lancaster County for about a century, until the young USA's taxation became too burdensome for them to bear. They proceeded to emigrate north into Canada, eventually settling the area now known as Kitchener-Waterloo. There is a Bricker Avenue just south of University Avenue, one of the major streets in north end Waterloo. On a more personal level, here were two brothers among the initial settlers, one of which is my direct patrilineal ancestor. When my family moved from Cambridge, Ontario to Shelburne, Ontario, we discovered another family of Brickers already living there. Even a daughter of approximately my younger brother's age. As luck would have it, that girl is the direct descendant of the other brother all the way back in Pennsylvania.

You are doing a great job! I can’t wait to order my copy late this year hopefully.

I am quite enjoying this series but I am wondering when or if you will cover Unitarians, Nontrinitarians, & Antitrinitarians? Examples of these would be the Socinians from Poland.

@larryplummer1843

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Hi Matt, I want to second Benjamin's suggestion if you think this is possible. I'm not sure you necessarily need to spend a lot of time on the uua, but might be interesting to cover the origins of the universalists and the unitarians

What about the United Church of Canada, the second largest church in Canada and the largest Protestant church in Canada.

Another good one, very informative, Matt.

Fantastic work

This episode plus the prior one on Lutheranism made me wonder where the Church of the Lutheran Brethren fits in this. From their Wikipedia article I can't quite pin down how to classify them.

@peterste8652

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They are pietists who are hard to fit on a chart like this. The people are Norwegian immigrants who came out of the Norwegian church with the thoughts of the pietists discussed in this video, but much later, around the time of tent meetings and revivals.

Thank you Matt! Where do the Shakers fit on your chart?

@davidg9756

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I was going to ask the same thing, should be under the Quakers, they were known as the shaking quakers after all. but really he should add it to the list of now-extinct quaker sects.

As always, neat and tidy, and open to critiques. Thanks Matt for the consistent quality deliveries! I just wish I lived nearby so that I could buy some of your posters I like a lot!

Fantastic videos. Thank you. I love your work.