Couple of other interesting characters you’ll find in south west HRE are the count of zollern who is the founder of the Hohenzollern dynasty who later ruled Prussia and the German empire and the count of regensburg is a member of the Hohenstaufen dynasty who were later dukes of Swabia and HRE with Frederick Barbarossa

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, thanks for the input!

@muratonuryilmaz5385

Жыл бұрын

I played as them and founded Prussia in the game. In 1350s I became a powerhouse that can rival any enemy of mine (including emperor ) and created a new faith named Protestantism and game ended 20 years later. But still one count can get super powerfull and Hohenzollerns are one of the best to do that as history shows it.

@pseudoproak

Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna marry the Hohenstaufer into Sicily for a goated Frederick II campaign

@domenicdedo469

Жыл бұрын

Hohenstaufen is the count of ravensburg for anybody wondering

@edschell9411

10 ай бұрын

Oh that's where barbarosa comes from!

little fact about the A.E.I.O.U thing, in Austria its also sometimes used for "Alles Erdreich ist Oesterreich Untertan" meaning smn like "all earthly domain is austrias vassal"

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Allen Ernstes ist Österreich unfähig 🤓 (greetings from a fellow Austrian)

@Ku_So

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits 🤝

@tongobong1

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits If you are Austrian interested in history I wonder do you know that eastern Austrians are Slavs by blood and genes that were Germanized or do you think they are Germanic people?

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

@@tongobong1 we’re definitely a mixed bunch

@tongobong1

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits all nations are mixed but all have some dominant genes. Dominant genes among eastern Austrians are Slavic. Austrians there have from 30% to 40% Slavic genes in comparison to 5% to 20% of Germanic genes. Basically eastern Austrians are Germanized Slavs.

Love these CK3 videos! BTW the way the welf guy is called Guelph is that that is just a corruption of the name. This is the same guelph as the "Guelph and the Gibellenes" dispute between house Welf and house Hohenstaufen. This is what they were called in Italy, hence the new name.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly, not a mistake in the game but we still found it funny :D Thanks for the compliment!

@baronDioxid

Жыл бұрын

Also, their modern descendand's official republican name, at least in Britain and Austria, is Guelph afair

@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis

8 ай бұрын

​@@baronDioxidThis Welf thing CK made is a fucking MESS. I have been trying to play Lombardy and three sons, of THREE different Houses is fucking infuriating and makes no sense.

Two other characters worth exploring are Hereward the Wake, who is a guest of the Duke of Flandèrs in 1066, and Aelfwine Knytling, grandson of Canute the Great who is a guest of the Duke of Toulouse.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Very nice, thanks for the tips!!

The duke of Swabia and Bavaria in the game are very important dukes in Henry IV’s younger years. They take the side of the empress dowager and protected the young Emperor from other nobles.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! We made another video about the dukes und duchesses in CK3s HRE two weeks ago :)

@BiglerSakura

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits the Duke of Swabia in the game: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_of_Rheinfelden was a rival king or anti-king who claimed emperorship and even won a battle against the Emperor but died next day due to severe wounds. He was buried under a bronze graveslab (unique of its kind in Europe) portraying him with royal regalia and with an inscription saying what a good king he would be. A good target for an alternative-history playthrough.

One count I would recommend people to try out is not technically a vassal of HRE but close is the count of Lübeck (it should be called Ljubice/Lubeka in the timeframe of the game but whatever), Budivoj of the Nakonid dynasty. He starts in the interesting position of being an independent Christian ruler squeezed between Pagan Polabian rulers, Denmark and HRE. It makes the start very flexible. You can swear fealty to the Emperor and with the help of German nobility retake the lands of Obotrites and create the Duchy of Mecklenburg and start your rise to power within HRE. Or you can side with Denmark or remain independent or even revert back to paganism. The choices are endless. BTW, this made me realize one thing about the portrayal of HRE in the game. Lack of parallel authority/entities. Pagan Polabian tribes for a time were functioning separately, regardless of Christian feudal German and Slavic rulers. Sometimes even attempting their own international relations which were used by neighboring rulers before the game's start date.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

I remember playing the count of Lübeck once, he really is in a super interesting position. Thank you for your great input and for following our channel!

Would it be possible if you did something similar to France or the Byzantines? I love your sparknoted way of talking about these things and it has inspired me to read into a lot of history I would usually ignore.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

At some point we’ll definitely do both of these, yes :)

Your forgot to mention that the successors to Queen Victoria were direct descendants of the Wettin dynasty you mention as well. The Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (also known as Windsor in UK) are in fact Wettin's. Another great house that you find in its infancy at this period is the House of Oldenburg. A family which from 15th century would rule over Denmark, Sweden and Norway (they still are ruling in Denmark and Norway). Their cadets ruling over Russia, Sweden, Greece and recently over UK as Charles is direct agnatic descendant and member of the Oldenburg dynasty.

I love merching history with paradox games and making a "documentary"-like videos about it

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

We also love playing historically relevant

Got to say playing as the zahringers is always interesting. One of the few dynasties you can play in CK EU and VIC.

Have you considered starting a gaming channel where you play CK3 and other historical games? It would be cool to see you play and give insights into what happened IRL.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

We once thought about trying to do lets plays that try and somewhat follow historical developments

@katmannsson

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits yo I think your stuff here is pretty great, and Im always looking for fun 'RP' CK3 runs so I would be down if you did~

@TheImapotato

Жыл бұрын

a couple of channels that try to do a somewhat historical replay I've found are Maniacal Inc. and Ole Cranky Gamer. The former does mostly Irish/Gaelic while the Latter does mostly Frennch, Dutch, English

I've really gotten addicted to your channel. These videos are so good. You present things is a brilliantly concise and easy to digest way, which is a real skill

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

That means a lot, thank you very much for this compliment! Happy to have you follow us :)

Thank you for making such amazing content History in Bits! I hope your channel gains the population it deserves so that you could make a career out of this. You’re awesome!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Really appreciate the kind words

Good content, dear HiBsters. Thank you for the historical context and inspiration for my next rp-playthroughs!

Seeing the growth of the this channel in just a couple of months and amazing. Keep it up!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

We are very thankful for our developing community! Thank you for your support!

Loving your channel so far! I got onboard after your Ireland video, and the quality keeps getting better

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the positive feedback, we really appreciate it

Awesome content and relaxing format. Hope to see more. Very good!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you v much! You will!

Glad I could catch this one so early. Love your ck3 vids!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

What a fantastic channel this is

@historyinbits

9 ай бұрын

Well thank you!

nice that you featured my most beloved starting character, duke dedo.

Nice man love watching your ck3 vids

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support!

Been looking through the comments and I haven’t seen anyone mention this but another interesting character I’ve seen is Count Elimar who belongs to the Oldenburg dynasty, because of the useful charts channel talking about the Oldenburg dynasty ruling many kingdoms at some time in history

There are many interpretations to "A.E.I.O.U" but yes it wasn't the motto back then, but it was their motto before they became rulers of Austria so the Austrian definition is probably not the original meaning of it, but could have at a later date been used as one way of understanding it, in german "Alles Erdenreich ist Österreichs Untertan" in english "All earthern kingdom is austrias subject" but the original meaning is thought to be "amor electis, iniustis ordinor ultor" a exerpt from the sentence he used when being crowned "„En, amor electis, iniustis ordinor ultor; sic Fridericus ego mea iura rego." Saying something along the lines of "Observe, by all of your love I was elected, to punish those that are unjust I Friedrich will exert my right to rule" and A. E. I. O. U is basically "By your love I was elected"

Love this type of video my friend

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

One of my favorite characters and playthrough was with Rupert count of Nassau 1066. He is the eldest known ancestor of the House of Nassau dynasty who later ruled England, Scotland, Ireland, Netherlands, and Luxembourg. The current head of the Dynasty is the Grand Duke of Luxembourg and their cadet branch Orange-Nassau is the ruler of The Netherlands.

I know this is in ck3 but if the 769 start date comes out like in ck2, the King of Asturias is a descendant of Emperor Justinian

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

That's a very cool video idea! I wish we had the option for an 1125 or 1150s start, simply so I can recreate the cooperation and eventuall outfall between Brabarossa and Henry the Lion.

Yes! Excellent video Please make more crusader kings 3 videos

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Will do :)

these are just my type of videos i ADORE these

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that, happy to have you following us!

@dalsosegno

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits roleplaying is my favourite part of CK3 and this just hit it right in the (niche) spot

Great video! Could you maybe do another one but based in the 867 start date. That's usually where I play lol.

Here are couple interesting unlanded characters. Rollo of Normandy is a commander in Norway in 867 start. Visconti family is present at milan in 1066 start. Roger of Maine (agnatic ancestor of Baldwin IV) is present at france in 867 start. Fulk IV is count of Torraine in 1066 start(this one is landed). El cid is present in the game as a commander with a claim on kingdom of Valencia. Founder of county or duchy of Portucale is in 867 start, king of asturias actually starts at war for pressing his claim. Im %100 there is so much more than this. I couldnt remember some rn so if you know any other please share. Actually 2 landed characters came to mind, 1- Nassau, founder of house orange-nassau is in the game. And harald tangle hair starts as a count in oslo

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Thank you so much for this valuable input!

Great video

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Very good Video

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

this was a great video I reallly liked and please can you do a similar one for the byzanties please?

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

We thought about doing this already!

@giorgosthoma849

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits thats great good to know

When I get a new PC I will play as some of these characters because it sounds so fun to either make or break history!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! :D

I like these videos so much I like them before I watch them lol

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Our favourite type of follower 😁

Thank you

Interesting that you didn’t speak about the Fredrick von Hohenzollern ho is a count in Hohenzollern in 1066 in the game still a really good video

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Maybe in another follow-up :)

@caniblmolstr4503

Жыл бұрын

Not a count but a knight

@greekandbulgariangamertv8633

Жыл бұрын

@@caniblmolstr4503 no he is a count

@camiblack1

Жыл бұрын

​@@historyinbits definitely need one, you also have the Billungs and a few surprises that people might not recognize as important (like the Welfs) like the Billungs, Ascanians, and a handful of others for example the Chatenois/Lorraine house over in Upper Lorraine (who would become the actual Habsburgs in Austria after the war of Austrian Sucession), or the Savoyards (future kings of Italy), or the Anscarids (Who brought you the Trastamaras, like the Lorrainians, they go by a "easter egg" name de Ivrea) there's quite a few other lesser known ones, because they're either overshadowed by the house everybody knows (Chatenois, Anscarids) or didn't last as long as some of the bigger houses (Billungs, and Ascanians)

@GeldtheGelded

Жыл бұрын

the hohenzollern dynasty wasn't really that important at the time, only in the late middle ages when they got ahold of the mark of brandenburg

just got this vid recommended i like the video stile and your voice is good for this kind of videos :) Quick question where are you from? I saw the german notification in the vid that the recording started but you dont sound german

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Very attentive, thank you for your support! We’re an Austro-British team :)

I thought for sure you would mention Renart in the duchy of Lausitz. You came very close. House Renart who starts off ruling Spreewald is the featured count in the Crusder Kings 3 cinematic.

There is also the count of Oldenburg, who would later go on to create House Oldenburg which house Glücksburg is a cadet branch of

Do the Carolingian Empire (867) next.

Magnus of Billung, heir to the duke of Saxony, is probably my favorite. He's the maternal grandson of Holy Olav of Norway and Norway being an elective Monarchy... Well it makes for an interesting game. Historically he was the last of the Billungs but his daughter by a princess of Hungary carried an impressive genealogical heritage that would later connect Holy Olaf with the later kings of Norway via Erik IV of Denmarks wife Juta of Saxony of the house of Askanien. Their descendants would eventually become the house of Oldenburg, holding the crowns of Denmark, Russia, Sweden, Greece, and now technically, Britain and the commonwealth monarchies.

Really interesting

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very cool bit of history, helps with rp in thr game as well

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that :)

Great video! One question though: how common were the little internal expansion wars that are so crucial in CK3? Would random little counts and barons reallty declare war on eachother over land claims or is that just a gameplay thing? From the little I understand, dynastic feuds were relatively common, but not with the expansionist characrter that they have in game.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Those wars did happen, especially in times of weak imperial authority! Thank you for your input and support! :)

I think the von Leiningen dynasty is also found in 1066. By current standards they're still a quite established noble house with very ancient roots and a place in the very contested claims on the throne of Russia.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Cool input, thank you!

While Queen Victoria was a member of house Welf, Queen Elizabeth II. was a member of house Wettin, also shown in the video.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Love your user name, referring to the only capable interwar Chancellor?

@stresemanniteist

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits Why of course

There exist a member of the Hohenzollern dynasty called Friedrich as a guest in the court of Neuchatel

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Have to check this out!

Next we shall go East to an Empire that may not be holy but definitely Roman and an Empire

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Good points :)

@wolfspack3063

Жыл бұрын

@@historyinbits honestly it is a big shame that the Eastern Roman Empire has not enjoyed more time in detail to show its special place in Europe in the middle ages. An Empire of past times

In the county of Venaison and Nassau you have the houses of Orange and Nassau

Well presented, well narrated, informative. Very good video. One tip/preference: start early making playlists of your videos. A ck3 playlist will likely get binge watched. I've made one for myself but it would raise your views which, early on, is an easy and free boost to your viewership. Keep it up chief!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for this valuable advice, I’ve now created the playlists. Really appreciate the support!

Look into the county of Bouillon. Its current ruler at the 1066 start is related (via marriage?) to Godefroy who will be a leader of the 1st Crusade and the 1st King (Advocate) of Jerusalem and his brother Baldwin who will be the next King of Jerusalem and the 1st Count of the newly founded crusader state Edessa. The both young brothers reside in their father's court, Eustace, Count of Boulogne. Probably it's possible to somehow play it through to actually make them Crusader Kings. If left as-is, they usually end up as unlanded or just petty counts.

I like this look into historically unique and interesting characters that might otherwise get lost in a game this large, you should definitely do more in this vein.

Personally i prefer to try to save houses that historically went extinct and/or lost their land, instead of going rags to riches with the Habsburgs

4:42 We can also a similar logic to claim that King Charles is a successor to the Mongol Empire through the Chagatai line’s connection to the Mughal Emperors of India and Britain claiming that title after deposing the last Mughal Emperor after the Rebellion of 1857.

7:56 wettin dynasty will also in the future come to rule the polish lithuanian commonwealth (the commonwealth held elections where nobles chose the king which they won) but unfortunely due to a rule implemented way before their reign called liberum veto that made it so any noble taking part in parlament could just say they dont allow whatever was discussed and the parlament would be over, made it so that they didnt have much to say, and in the long run made poland a russian protectorate. Wettin dynasty is pretty respected in Poland though, because they tried to save the situation, when the nobles were gone on easter they called the parlament and have written first constitution of europe (and second constitution in the world) which abolished liberum veto and made many more changes. Unfortunely power hungry nobles didnt like losing their powers and formed a confederation and asked russia to intervene, which gave russia pretext to invade and divide poland between them, prussia and austria (not fully, but the partition would spark an uprising, which was defeated and caused the final partition of poland).

What are the songs you used in the background of the video?

Nice vid, could you please add timestamps in future similar videos?

This seems like it might make a good series, provided the game has the content to make that feasible

Although not historicall, Count Otger Renart, of Spreewald in Lausitz, Northern Germany. 1066 start, is the trailer character and his wife Hersent. You can se his dead brother Wilhelm (William) for the first trailer being murdered by another rival count.

Please cover me in the HRE. I was probably scattered across the world as different molecules and atoms so it might be a bit difficult to research.

The Renart and Barenburg houses in 1066 are also pretty cool counts, they are vassals of Lausitz and they are the families portrayed in the CK3 trailers (including the tours and tournaments trailer) and they already have a preset backstory that you can follow, essencially, Otger's younger brother was assassinated by the Barenburgs and that sparked a rivalry for generations between the two families, you can see their story in the trailers

The 1st husband of Matilda of Tuscany: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_the_Hunchback You can actually marry them if start as his father Godfrey the Bearded of Lower Lorrain in HRE.

Could you please make a vidio about denmark in the 1066 start?

@historyinbits

10 ай бұрын

Good idea!

I like to play as a Duke of Austria in 1066. His claims and possible powerful alliances with Bohemia and Hungary makes him an Archduchy of Austria speedrunner.

Friedrich Hohenstaufen (not Barbarossa, but an ancestor) in the Swabian duchy, don't remember what county he possesses tho.

Father ted reference ❤

Will videos like these also be made with Byzantium?

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

We’re planning to do Byzantium as well!

count otger of house renart. he’s the guy in the ck3 promotional trailer

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Aah true!

I believe Frederick Barbarossas father is in or near ravensburg

I liked my game as Duke of Luxembourg. Married him tomatilda, what a power couple it was. Tho I had to imprison and semd to clergy every son we had since she was too sassy to enter a patrilenial marriage w me, but luckly my starting duke came with a daughter heir.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Classic Matilda :D

I really like the Habsburg start for reasons other than the interesting novelty of their name. Their starting position near the southwest border makes every game something different, depending on circumstances and choice - you can play the imperial game, drift into the French orbit, form Switzerland, or even make a play for northern Italy.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Very true! Thank you for your input!

Lore of Historically Interesting Counts in CK3's Holy Roman Empire momentum 100

the house of Hohenzollern

Guelf = Welf, just like Willem = Guilhem, the W- transcription of the germanic name seems to be more prevalent in more germanic speaking region of Frankia, while the Gu- transcription seems to have been favored by scribes writing in Latin. That said Paradox is notoriously bad with early middle-ages European names, copy-pasting whatever records they have on hands leading to name list with 5 times the same name but with slightly different spellings...

I think there is an unlanded member of the Hohenzollerns

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, should we do another follow-up we’ll cover him!

Were the Hohenzollerns around at the time of ck3?

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

They were! We‘ll include them if we do another follow-up :)

De jure is not pronounced as the French de jour. It's either day-joor-ee or dee-yoor-ee.

At the time of Welf I., Welf I., or Welf Welf, was called Welf. Some descendants of the first Welf Welf were also named Welf. Long after the time time of Welf I., the line of Welf Welf was therefore given the name Welfs, making each Welf including Welf I. a Welf Welf. And because more Welfs were named Welf, the first Welf Welf was then called Welf I. But no Welf Welf ever called the Welfs Welfs or called himself Welf Welf, and Welf himself, the first Welf Welf, was only called Welf I. after more Welfs had been named Welf, after him.

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Haha

@SignumInterriti

Жыл бұрын

I hope that clears up any possible confusion.

I know that EDEKA!

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Haha really?

Due to the RNG BS which is always rigged against the player long-term it is near impossible to repeat the historical machinations of the Hapsburgs, not until the devs add more features.

house zollern

Why do you call Habsburgs infamous?

1:06 That's not true, you simply live in an English-speaking country with Eurocentric history taught to you. If you knew Middle-Eastern or South Asian or East Asian etc. languages, you'd know far more history about small medieval political entities in Asia or Africa.

"Holy Roman" is a phrase that only works with the empire itself. You can't say "Holy Roman Dukes or Duchesses". That sounds really wrong. You could say "imperial" or "of the empire" or "German"/"Italian"/"Bohemian".

@historyinbits

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the input!

Well Odacer was just another usurper he didn’t end the empire to claim otherwise is racist Illyrians can be emperors too.

I prefer to play African leaders.

If only ck3 wasnt a trash game...

Fun fact welf I died in the crusade of 1101 which also had ida of austria in it the 1st noblewoman to take part in a crusade

Elimar von oldenburg is another. His unbroken male line can be traced to most of the royal families today.

The wettins not only were important in Germany, but also Poland, since three of our kings were Wettins and when the first polish contitution was written, the Wettins were supposed to inherit it, and when Napoleon created the Duchy of Warsaw, the Wettins became dukes of it.

Um how is the Hapsburgs "infamous"? They didn't do anything worthy of being "infamous".

@090giver090

Жыл бұрын

Is going full Alabama with their own family tree infamous enough? 😆

Could you do something with my people albanians and skenderbeg ?