I so much hope that the show really explores all this philosophical stuff from The Amber Spyglass. I agree with you that the primary characters are clearly Will and Lyra, but the showrunners have proven in the previous seasons that they are interested in the backstory and want to stay very faithful to the books. They could easily have extra scenes with other characters (Mrs Coulter, Asriel, Balthamos & Baruch, Xaphania, Seraphina...) like they already did with Mrs Coulter and Boreal for example, and bring up the backstory through them. I am hopeful that we'll see most of the material from the book on screen. One way or another, it'll surely be amazing and I can't wait!!

I love how the one guy with the worst microphone has the best audio quality. Learn how your equipment works, folks.

This entire show is just about demiurge/yaldabaoth it has gnosticism element in it

"it's very digestive" is a great way to put it lol

This was dope, definitely wanna learn more about the angels. Love these videos

@AsArt

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you! Hope you've been enjoying the rest of the new content as well -- and more is incoming!

Gnostism. Demiurge. Sophia. Archons. Etc.. If any of this show or video interests you the gnostic scripture is where you will find more info

@HortonGourcuff

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this show is gold ogunwe is ogun BTW

Wow you guys just ramble and explained absolutely nothing.... Awesome

If you read the Nag Hammadi Library, Apocryphon of John and the Hypostasis of the Archons, among other books in it. The authority begins to make sense as god (lower case g) known as Yaldabaoth, which was the creator of the material plane. Either out of malice or ignorance it took itself to be the only part of god and therefor the only god. Also known to some gnostic sects as Saklas or Samael, depending if you go off of the Valentinian flavor or the Sethian flavor of gnosticism. Also known to some as the Demiurge. The Magesterium seems to worship the demiurge, while Lyra and Azrael (either unconsciously or consciously) are trying to set things in motion to have the rest of the world be made aware to the existence of the Monad (the Unknowable, Ineffable, True God) . A lot of gnostic parallels in the show. I don't know why they called the Authority Metatron though that doesn't seem to track with the rest of the codexes but maybe because more people are aware of Metatron in popular culture.

The dark angel "metatron" imprisoned the real authority and ruled in place of him pretending to be a regent

@greasher926

Жыл бұрын

Would that make him lucifer?

@jadestar2614

Жыл бұрын

@@greasher926 no if lucifer knew Metatron wasn't God. It would cause a fight and lucifer and his angels get casted out. And Metatron painted a false story to make Lucifer the bad guy. Metatron keeping all from the 1 true God to debunk him. (Concept)

@greasher926

Жыл бұрын

@@jadestar2614 him interesting, so in this book, does the concept of lucifer still exist? And if so will he play a role later on in the season?

@jadestar2614

Жыл бұрын

@@greasher926 it is a speculation it from all the different lore that they pulled their research from. There are also clues in the book of Judas and why Jesus was here it alludes to that concept.

@eds1942

Жыл бұрын

There were two Metatrons. One was the primordial angel that gave Enoch the grand tour. The other was the ascended Enoch who replaced the former. Being that some of the source material was used by the Gnostics, it’s also possible that the Authority is the Demiurge or that he combined the two.

Magisterium is the Vatican metatron is an angel

@olychevalier5012

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Metatron is an archangel who helps God but it's not God. We need to know a little bit about theology to understand better this amazing story.

@guru-3943

Жыл бұрын

Metatron was also a human who ascended to highest archangel

I don’t think the authority is god , I think it’s Michael or Samuel cause he would have said the creator. The first angel isn’t the creator he just forgot he’s place and became corrupted overtime as with everything else

@noahsolomon1550

Жыл бұрын

The idea that the authority is possibly the archangel Michael or samael makes some sense.

@WilliamsPinch

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@supaa8518

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@gubernamdamesse5643

Жыл бұрын

In the books the Authority is God. But God have always lied pretending he was the Creator of all things, when he was actually just the first Angel. Authority is just the name that he receives in Lyra's world.

@thechristsknight7758

Жыл бұрын

I think this is an AU where it was Lucifer that cast out the loyalists, not the other way around. Then Lucificer grounded God and made him into the Dust. EDIT Turns out I was only 50% correct. The Dust IS God, and the Authority i.e. the HDM's version of Lucifer was "condensed" from the Dust. And his reason for wanting to rule the other angels and hence all of creation essentially boils down to "I was the first made, so I should be in charge, eugh!😫"

"The Authority in their world is basically God" No "in their world" about it. HDM is about parallel worlds, but the Authority comes from the world of the Angels, of which there's only one. The Authority is the Abrahamitic God and every major deity worshipped across the multiverse.

Your dodging the urge to compare our god. But it's kind of hard not to see the parallel sometime, then again is it a rouge or a piece of bacteria place to question your omnipotence as a person is unlimited to a piece of bacteria..... potentially, as we are to God maybe somewhat similar. He's the creator of the world and therefore the rules and. Care for the author of good.... Author of evil. . .

@teetar1751

3 жыл бұрын

My brain is not formed enough to answer such things. Is our morality of what's right and wrong correct for some reason. Who are we to say anything about anything is way of life we're pretty shitty too look how we treat our animal brethren, and look how we treat each other... I don't think we're we're in any position to be judging what's ultimate evil on ultimate not evil.. I love the series I love anything that makes me think deep.. twist the ideas around.. .. To

@AsArt

3 жыл бұрын

It's certainly a great thing to contemplate; what does it mean to be 'God' (if by that term we mean the judeo-christian interpretation of such a being) in relation to mere mortals? Is morality objective? These are questions that have plagued some of the greatest philosophers and theologians of history. It's great when we get a series such as 'His Dark Materials' that inspires us to probe these philosophical areas!

His dark materials made me religious, I’m a big fan. I appreciate literature that makes you ask questions and I’m thankful to Pullman for opening up that world of ideas and questions for me :)

@kobybarnes3035

3 ай бұрын

Lol what? Its literally about how religion lies and manipulates and the whole message is freeing your spirit from the control of orginized religion

So it’s basically satanic I watched the show it’s pretty good but as a Christian I didn’t like the implications it makes and I would bet who made this story is a Freemason this is right along with their beliefs that Lucifer and the fallen angels in actuality did what he did to bring knowledge to humanity that was being held back from them thus the name Lucifer the light bearer and that it was in fact god keeping his foot on the neck of humanity to hold them back that’s about the jest of it I think that all being said I’m capable of separating my entertainment from my real life so it’s a damn good show but if your a Christian who is triggered easily do not watch this show lol

@bignick47331

Жыл бұрын

@@astraetluna that is true in certain instances especially nominations like Catholicism the Catholic Church is evil and corrupt and full of lies and idol warship however the teachings of Jesus Christ are far different any church that the leaders claim some kind of Devine authority or to speak for God are false and have bad intentions

@lifeinjersey9846

Жыл бұрын

No offense but if you are Christian and this show triggers you then your faith isn't strong you just pretend it to be. If your faith was strong it shouldn't matter what this story says or what others says. As long as you truly believe in your own beliefs 100% then nothing about this show should bother you.

@simonO712

Жыл бұрын

I'd say it's more Gnostic than Satanic, but essentially yes.

@bignick47331

Жыл бұрын

@@simonO712 I agree this is based off the gnostic texts and paradise lost I just meant it’s the belief that Lucifer and the fallen are indeed the good and god and his angels are tyrannical the gnostic belief system is the basis for many religions including satanism

@gorbachevspizzahut2809

Жыл бұрын

Lol you know that this series literally is a critique of religion

You'll get to see God's wrath soon enough for all this blasphemy and more . You can delude yourself based on the words of the fallen angel, but what will you do on Judgment Day?

@Darth_Xionn

7 ай бұрын

God is fictional, bud.

This is atheism for kids...🤷🏾‍♂️

@mt.aurelius6324

Жыл бұрын

Honestamente, his Dark materials não é tão ateísta quanto muitos alegam. Tá certo que o livro tem temas claramente anticatolicos /dogmas e uma crítica direta a religião, mas o universo de Pullman tem o seu próprio conceito místico e teológico com uma ótica mais panteísta que teista. Eu explico, no multiverso de Pullman o PÓ (ou matéria escura, como também é chamado) é uma energia cósmica que sustenta e move toda a vida de todos os universos, é a força celestial que auxiliou o processo de evolução da vida em todo multiverso. É uma energia além do material (que é uma ideia rejeitada pelo ateísmo). Foi o pó que criou o primeiro anjo que se intitulou ser Deus e a autoridade suprema de todos os outros anjos. Para o magistério o pó é visto como o pecado original, porque, quando descobriram que o pó só é atraído para pessoas mais velhas e não para crianças, eles logo associaram ao pecado que não é atraído para crianças. O pó não é uma entidade consciente, mas é a energia que dá vida a tudo, os dogmas e a visão religiosa que se dá ao pó é visto como a causa do mundo de Lyra ser uma distopia teocrática. A trilogia de Pullman é que nem Matrix, ela defende essa ideia de questionar os status quoll, conhecer a verdade além das crenças da nossa zona de conforto, defender o livre arbítrio e, também, experimentar algo novo sem medo de julgamentos. O magistério e o equivalente a igreja católica na época da inquisição, tem medo do que é diferente e proíbe as pessoas de conhecerem o desconhecido e considerarem pecado. A visão religiosa compromete a real beleza do mundo além dos dogmas. O pó é uma energia divina mas sem consciência (ideia panteísta). A religião que atribui sentido além desse tende a impor essa visão cosmo universal para os outros e passa a oprimir quem discorda, e é aí que ela se torna a vilã. A visão do livre é cosmo e o místico separado da religião que leva ao fanatismo se for dominada por fanáticos.