This was freaking awesome man, you tried your best to give it a totally fair shake. Nice change of pace, and good on you for being honest but fair. Now, like we all keep asking the wifes, please quit calling yourself fat..😂

@Oblithian

6 ай бұрын

It was a very interesting review.

@CrashPilot1000

6 ай бұрын

Yep, that was a good review, and who knows, maybe they'll come up with something better.

@NandR

6 ай бұрын

Us big boys know what we are and aren't ashamed. Not as much social pressure for men to be small.

@jalhusky

2 ай бұрын

I think all this needs to work is a track instead of a paddle wheel.

You'd think the wheel should be in the middle to get the most grip.... and so that you can go the other way, because when people snowboard, they can switch which way they ride.

@HolgerNestmann

6 ай бұрын

maybe thats a one wheel patent

@NeoIsrafil

6 ай бұрын

It would help a little, but the real problem is your weight is being supported by the board on the snow. The physics of it don't work well with a wheel. I've got a pretty solid way they could go with it, but I'm probably gonna offer it to them more officially so they can't just yoink it.

@greenanubis

6 ай бұрын

Wheel sinks down and spins if the snow is not hard enough. Putting it in the middle wont fix that problem. Let the engineers and wanketeers do their thing.

@skyvenrazgriz8226

6 ай бұрын

Make it a caterpilar

@bitkarek

6 ай бұрын

it would toss a lot of snow on your back leg.

I think your review was fair and honest. The only curiosity I have is how a 120lb Rider might fair on it? If you know any women or teenagers that snowboard in that weight range it would be cool to see if the reduced weight allows the design to work a little better. Thanks!

@rompdude

6 ай бұрын

I imagine it would be a fair bit better. If this is a Chinese manufacture, they are generally quite a lot smaller and lighter.

@krisrobitzsch

6 ай бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking. A woman or teenager around 150-170lbs would probably have an entirely different experience.

@Crazyates11

6 ай бұрын

I actually assumed that a lighter person would not have a good experience. The biggest issue he had was gaining traction, which would be worse for a lighter person. It’s the same reason why a lot of guys who put snow plows on their pickups also load the bed with sand or concrete or anything else heavy they can find - you want that weight for better traction.

@TheTyisawesome

6 ай бұрын

Seeing how it was struggling for traction the reduced weight will probably only worsen the issue

@ngc2392

6 ай бұрын

There are other videos on youtoube with lighter riders going on packed snow. They have the same traction issues

Not world's first! This is actually a quick to market copy of fellow creator Powertraverse's original concept. He is now on Gen.4 and it is orders of magnitude better than this.

@theboxxy24

6 ай бұрын

^Powertraverse on lG, he shares all his development progress there. Seriously inspiring stuff, not just for the opportunistic corporations😂

@jonedone7345

6 ай бұрын

He uses flexible "tank threads" with deep fins that dig into the snow. It seems to have much more power and grip on the snow.

@calvinthedestroyer

6 ай бұрын

yeah, power traverse looks like a much better design

@TheTyisawesome

6 ай бұрын

The Grip is so important! ​@@jonedone7345

@benw7616

6 ай бұрын

I did some looking myself and found a rear mounted track called "eltrack mover" by Ilia Muchkin its a really cool design that looks like it would fit on any snowboard. Quite similar to the power traverse. The design in the video i have also seen replicated a few times over the years to middling success, Mike in the Woods has a wheel design that works from him. Then the final design i have seen is called "Electric Moto Snowboard" the best way i can think to describe it is a jetski and a snowmobile got together to make a snowboard. It looks really fast but not sure how much of the snowboarding feel will be left given the segway like handle and how heavy it it.

This was unexpected but awesome

appreciate the honest review. why i appreciate your channel

Falling on the battery would be my worst expectation. It would be Bane to your Batman...

as someone who's never snowboarded, really dumb suggestion: turn it into a onewheel. get another snowboard (reason 1 this is stupid) cut a hole in the middle and put that motor / wheel unit in the middle, between your feet. center of gravity will improve, friction will improve, etc. this company is still... sketchy to put it lightly, but it might be a fun project.

@cvantrease1231

6 ай бұрын

Or add a skateboard axle to the front it might be fun it the summer.

@RetinaBurner

6 ай бұрын

@@cvantrease1231 - I think it's too long and flexible to be ridden like a skateboard, would need to be stiffened a lot in order to not grind the center all the time. Interesting idea otherwise; but why spend $2500 on something that doesn't do what it's supposed to do?

@Mohenjo_Daro_

6 ай бұрын

Doesn't really matter where the wheel is, it'll dig in and spin. A track on the back or the middle might work better, but a wheel just isn't likely to work

As someone who's well, well above your weight, bro - you're not fat. maybe a little above average. props for doing such a thorough detailing of the problems. Thing might work real well for someone 100 pounds lighter.

Thank you for the fun and excitement. If the back half was a crawler, it would be worth it.

you should try it in the summer on the grass

Wooooorddd Thanks for sharing this!!

Gotta love the honest review, kudos! Thanks for the info, seems like a sick product, too bad it didn't work as intended

Just started watching, but my intial thoughts are that the small diameter of the wheel wouldn't provide enough contact with the snow to achieve proper traction. There is a reason snow mobiles and snowcats use a track system.

The returns conditions are not clearly stated on their website. The return policies hidden away do not talk about this product. So how should one know this ahead of purchase? The statement in the manual wouldn‘t work in all jurisdictions But did you know you can adjust the wheel for different snow conditions?

So it's an urban electric winter skateboard. This thing would rock around my neighborhood here in Detroit.

Use the motor for a fan ... The Snow Blower™

Bro You're funny. Self deprecation warms the heart of others!

Awesome video man! Thank you for the complete honesty! I wonder if it would work better in sand haha

3kW is a respectable amount of power. Should be fun. Edit: Too bad about the traction :/ Seems like it's built for kids. Edit #2: Man than part about the "hard pack only" being in small print and no returns is definitely going to get them in legal trouble.

@Oblithian

6 ай бұрын

I would fit the weight limit but even myself would be pushing it.

Agreed, the wheel needs to be in the center.

I would love to try the electric snowboard, been snowboarding for over 30 years now. that looks fun but I dont see it taking the beating I would give my boards, jumping, landing. kinda takes the ambidextrous ability of a regular board out of the equation and cant ride switch. and not riding in powder kills the snowboard fun. that's the best part, carving powder !! Only good thing i see about this board is going between lifts and getting a regular board to go downhill lol

I bet this thing would rock on grass in the summer lol. You should get a friend of yours that is like 130lbs to 150lbs and see if it's way better.

It seems to make more sense to me to have the wheel in the middle, like those one wheel skateboards but with a much lower deck. Cool idea for a thing but not 2500$ cool... at least how it seems to work as it is. Might be a cool gift for someone well within that weight limit. I bet a 100 lb kid could rip around on it, even on a bit softer snow.

@madb132

6 ай бұрын

No! a lighter person would also have less grip. The wheel is the problem. on softer snow the wheel would just rooster tail it and go no where.

@facksmasheen

6 ай бұрын

@@madb132 makes sense, tracks do exist for a reason.

Superb review. I expect nothing less from you, but thanks for being completely objective about this product.

The motor and tire should be in the middle to maximize the weight riding it. Hell of a lot less likely to spin out.

It’s a snow shaver, ideal for making fluffy snow cones but not propelling a person on a board on a flat road or uphill with powder snow.

I think the first electric snowboard I saw was basically 3D printer heated beds imbedded in the fiberglass layers so it would melt the snow beneath it better, it added an okay amount of speed

Nice remote.. Rick wants his portal gun back

If you have any groomed xcountry trails I’m sure it would kick ass

I've had this idea for many years, but I always thought the belt needed to be longer to not be a failure

instead of a whel they should use a track offering lots more grip. not sure why it had to be a wheel where we all know wheels do barely anything in snow no matter how good the tread is. track is king and should have been used

@fuzzy-supernova

6 ай бұрын

this! came here for this comment and here you are, undeserved too low in the comment section.

The amount of constructive feedback is amazing, no thrashing, only suggesting things that would make it feasable. waiting for v2 to encorperate many of the things suggested, and maybe a more justified price

They may work up north where they have permafrost and snowy tundra?

could be the guts of a future project

I wonder if it has different power modes.

I too thought the wheel in the center would help manuverability and traction, but it may make your stance wider and uncomfortable. Maybe make it front wheel drive as a puller or a wheel and motor each end.

Think it only makes sense at a ski resort where the snow quality is just packed ice like after they groom or right around the lifts.

did you try adjusting the pretension on those shocks? perhaps giving it more force on the wheel can help it dig more into the snow, and in the event that it spins, allows it to get to the pavement underneath faster?

Is it water proof? Could it be used on beach (the hard part where water hardens ground)? You should have some teens play with it as a contrast. I'm sure there would be tons of volutary teens to try it out and you could film their reactions. Only thing i'm thinking it could be good for is on skihills, moving from one lift to another without snowmobile (workers having transportation from lift to another or a toy to play with after work)

Maybe they should change the wheel to a track and dual motors turning one wheel at each end of the track. Should increase the traction alot.

First thing i thought about when i saw the video is "What is this thing gonna push against? Are they gonna put a jet engine on it?". Guess they just skipped that part.

If you don't already you should ride a onewheel they are amazing .

You could always add pontoon floats and slap a paddle wheel on the back and make a water toy.

That motor pack would be wicked to put on a snow racer for children.

Now all that's left is to print a better tyre for better grip : D so which design works best ? spoon, v-shape, ... ?

This was a great, fair review but you forgot to do the smoke test!

You might be able to get away with a duel wheel system also suggest you get rid of the battery and motor and replace it with a gopad engine

So the only way to brake is via regen or falling over?

id like to see if there is any difference with this on actual snow(-25°C) and not "slush", maybe it would work better where i live

A tread like a snowmobile is how I would approach this idea. Not enough contact with a round wheel

Have you tried tightening the springs? They are adjustable and they seem kinda loose right now. Turn the golden ring and it will push the wheel harder down

It's neat, but at $2500 we're into used Snowmobile / Snowbike territory, and I'm absolutely getting that over this.

I would have expected this to only work on a late season hard pack snow.

Okay, I've never used a snow board, but something that kinda seems obvious to me is that the motor is in the wrong place. It needs to be in the middle, not the tail. I'm sure it could be moved on a new deck, and this might be more useful as a kit, but I'm pretty sure a certain electric skateboard company would have kittens if they tried to do that for production models.

I'm curious if it would be any better I if the shocks were harder,

I'd redesign it and make it like a tank tread the full length of the board. Though, I bet it'd work great for a kid.

Haha, you can try to put the skateboard wheels on it and try it in the summer 🙂

Would it work on ice? Like a frozen lake or something?

do you have a lightweight friend to try this out?

How about having the motor in the front?

The truth is there is too many people out there with SOOOOO much money, they see this and go...yea i'll get that.

THUMBS UP FOR BEING HONEST 😊

I'd say that it would have been better if they could have put the wheel in the center under the rider, as the steering would be better, and the rider's weight could be taken advantage of to help traction and make the snowboard perform better. But, a giant hole in the middle of a snowboard is a little hard to work around in terms of strength and flexibility of the board. Also, I agree that a track would be a massive improvement, but the issue of the motor placement would remain if they keep it in the tail, and it would still have the problem with steering and control. Cool idea, but even if I did snowboard, which I don't. I'm looking at this from an engineering and stability point of view. I wouldn't buy this as it stands now. Very interesting video, and a more than fair assessment of the board. Nicely done, Major ;)

@madb132

6 ай бұрын

A "wheel" put anywhere on that board will not work on snow! Snow mobiles have tracks for a reason!

Snowboard showdown S1 where you print new wheels

If you want to test it on mount saint Helens just let me know ;P

Maybe mount an offroad longboard truck on the front and make it a fun summer toy

Out of these which one should I get ? • Elegoo Neptune 4 plus • Creality K1 • Ender 5 S1 • Anycubic Kobra Plus • Bambu A1 Or any other printer thats in the £300 price range

I honestly wonder if you would love a Onewheel, some people say they're the closest thing you can get to a year round snowboard. Personally I love them but defo not for everyone

Looks like something that would work great on a groomed trail, like to see it on a fresh trail ride.

A centralized wheel or cat track setup would be better

It needs to have a tread like a snowmobile like you said.

That is a really cool thing. Would be cooler with dual motors 😋

i bet u got the snowboarding bug in ya now haha. gotta head north to the UP and hit da trails.

I'd love to cross country snowboard with something like this, but its gotta work at lower speeds and loose snow for the trails in my area.

Maybe you could bolt skateboard wheels to the bottom & use it on pavement? Or just use the parts to build a go cart.

I feel like you need more snow for it to work properly

@Oblithian

6 ай бұрын

Colder temps probably.

Maybe it would work well on snowmobile trails, that could be fun.

Ad: electric snowboard. Reality: tiny powerful snow digger.

This seems to me to completely defeat the idea of snowboarding, but it's cool and it also does open a new way of riding I guess so that's also cool

That is why I like getting things over built. A max capacity of 200lb is way to low. I am 200lb and I would never want to ride something that said 200lb as the max. You should try riding an EUC. The new ones are amazing.

Have you tried it FWD?

I feel like with the amount of rc controllers and motors being made you could hop this up with a stronger setup. If you have the time and money, oh man its $2500 to start, it is nicely made.

I had this idea decades ago, before electrics were up for this task.... I'd bet a two wheel (front / back) drive would let it ride better and give better balance at the cost of weight. But you would have much better traction.

if they don't go with a track at least go with a hybrid paddle and deep tread tire to improve performance in packed snow.

When are you going to do cheetah fan on drone?

Put it on a surfboard and make the paddle wheel bigger 😄

I am surprised they didn't go with the central wheel design.

I'm just under 70kg, so that should push me along I guess :D Sadly, where is the snow?

that did not look like a 3Kw motor, more like 1/3rd

Needs a caterpilar, like any other snow based vehicle

since you're doing a product review... is there no tether on that remote control? seems a silly oversite.

@RcLifeOn must have built something like that

I have this weird feeling that this is not for fun, but for commuting in snowy areas, similar to a one wheel in the summer, like a personal/micro mobility thing? Although this is from a person that has never lived in a snowy area.

Stud the tire with some Icedigger screws and get a more powerful battery. 😂❤

What was your AFSC?

@MajorHardware

6 ай бұрын

2A5X4 I believe

Time to rip out the stock esc and put in a Vesc esc and increase the power!!

This seems like it would be a great gift for a kid or teenager who would get much better results.

Bummer that it isn't more powerful.

yeah wheels definitely aren't good in snow. they need a track just like you said