I agree 1000%! 2ch no correction. Just set up your speakers correctly. Everybody chases that center image in 2ch music and TV

Great video! I've got the NAD M33 and LOVE it!

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet!

Great guide !

Very cool product and cool review!

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Ya I’ve been enjoying it

Nice! Is it possible to control internet providers like Netflix in order to have Atmos and DTS to send to AVR? And video to TV. Thanks 👍

I own M10 V2, but I can only calibrate below 500hz with Dirac. It requires 99$ licence for full spectar.

It’s got some gas to it to be so small I love the VU meters

Damn I have had this thing for like a year and didn’t know about blu os cloud. Always wanted to put the vu meters up on every source. Now I know how to! Thanks! I definitely made my dirac curve way more bass heavy and also upped the mid bass to make the sound signature warmer to my liking! I love the m10. It just works! With very little glitches. Plus that GAF AND WAF is through the roof! Haha

@squeegebergren3501

3 жыл бұрын

I also put metal feet(meant for turntables) under it for air flow.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea about the feet

The NAD amps that are true killers are the NAD C298 (Two channel 185 W per channel), and NAD 28 (200 W all seven channels). These are the leading edge class D Eigentakt topology. The M10 has a an older Hypex Topology D class amp, which is good, but not great. However, for those who want and all in one streamer player the M10 is quite good. M33 though is even better. Thanks Mike for bringing to light a good entry level audiophile two channel product.

Do you think it pairs well with Klipsch? I have RP-8000f II.

I've got an M33 and DIRAC has made all the difference. I guess the better your room from an acoustical point of view, the less need for room correction. In my case, lots of windows, marble floor (albeit with a nice rug), cabinet with glass sliding doors. With DIRAC bass is fast, taut; midrange doesn't scream at you and everything snaps into place with imaging of my DALI Rubicon speakers. The default DIRAC target curve is indeed thin sounding. i use the Harman target curve (google it) and the NAD Room feel target curve (a bit bass heavy for my liking).

@vlax543

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for harman kardon curve but there are lot of variations. Can u put link for the one u are using. I would like to test it. Thanks i advance

Does Apple music show album picture on m10 display?

Youthman!

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

What's up Ross!

You should review the nad classic series. 268 Power amp I trust your style of reviewing, I'm looking at purchasing one and your input would be welcome.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the recommendation and for the kind words

Looks like you have a few nice playlists. Have you considered sharing them with your patrons?

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

I would be glad to do that. 👍 Thank you for the suggestion.

So this product doesn't support external amplification? What should I be looking for with the functionality of this product but with external amplification for a two channel setup?

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

I completely forgot to show the rear of the unit in the video. It does have preouts if you need more power and want to connect an external amp.

another great review Youthman. very nice unit, but not for me. I don't use streaming services. plus it is over priced in my opinion.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s definitely on the pricey side. Certainly doesn’t fit most budgets.

NAD should offer a model without internal amplification and an analog and digital output

@KeithHeinrich

2 жыл бұрын

They have heaps of models that do this. But then it would be a component, not an all in one.

@KeithHeinrich

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewyoung2102 true, but I suspect integrated products like M10/M33 are the future. Components will be less a focus in time.

Just get a Bluesound Node 2i or Bluesound power node which would be same as this for a lot less. I'm sure it is Roon compatible was well. You would like Roon more than the BlueOS. Roon is expensive but you can do a 14-day trial.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t reviewed any of the Bluesound units yet

@paulmardis1512

3 жыл бұрын

I believe TechnoDad reviewed one and I purchased mine right after that.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Yes Channa has a review on his channel.

@massimilianozeni1848

3 жыл бұрын

The node 2i DAC or preamp is not as good. Then u gotta add a sinergic amplifier. Then you don t have dirac corrextion. I think it doesn t even have Arc (hdmi) etc etc. By the time u got all these with the node you would have spent more probably with worse results acoustically speaking. Of course you can run the node into a nice amp but it has to have its own dac to perform as good as the M10. At that point you have two box. You probably spent more. No dirac etc etc

@jimji2774

3 жыл бұрын

@@massimilianozeni1848 My Bluesound Powernode 2 is 60 watts. M10 is 100 plus higher dac specs I believe. Should sound better and have more features. Costs 2 1/2 times more though.

I see this day coming that most of the receivers/amplifiers will have a touchscreen

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

I love the look but I myself would end up using my Harmony Elite, especially for hime theater.

@michae1a1ee

3 жыл бұрын

No need. I already control my receiver 100% from my touchscreen phone and tablet. Why get up to touch the receiver when control is in your pocket all the time?

@IvanRossS

3 жыл бұрын

Who need touch, in 2050 amp will read your mind, your mood and adjust sound automatically

Do you know if once you link your Spotify account in the BlueOS app, do you have to control it from the BlueOS app or can you control it from Spotify directly? Normally all Spotify enabled devices on the network get discovered by Spotify. I am thinking about a scenario where if other, less tech savvy, people in the house want to use the NAD M10 it would be easier if they could do so directly from the Spotify app. Having every potential user download the BlueOS app seems like a burden.

@massimilianozeni1848

3 жыл бұрын

U can use tidal and Spotify directly. No need to use BluOS

@jimji2774

3 жыл бұрын

BlueOS for controlling the music is not user friendly at least compared to Spotify. Once I had my speakers set up with my Powernode I never open the blueos app and this is one of the reasons I use Spotify even though it is not high Rez. Can't wait for it to upgrade later this year. Other devices are going this route now too but reportedly have had issues. As long as BlueOS doesn't glitch that is all I need it to do.

What projector are you using for your home theater

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

JVC NX7

Hello youthman, did you notice better sound in stereo than what your av7705 with audyssey offers you? By the way why when a review of the nad t778? Cheers

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

I typically listen to music in my living room and movies on the AV7705 and now AV7706 so I’m not sure how they compare side by side. I currently do not have the 778 in for review.

Very sexy display. Niceee!!!

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely!

Only for looks. For audiophiles maybe not. This is just too digital but nice to have for a receiving room. But great review Youthman!!!!

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely more than just looks. But you are correct...most “audiophiles” are likely spinning vinyl

@KeithHeinrich

2 жыл бұрын

What is an audiophile? If the definition is someone who spends time and money to satisfy their golden ear tinkering with and listening to their equipment rather than the music that comes from it, then this won't satisfy them at all. It's pretty much a set and forget solution so endless tinkering is out of the question once installed and Dirac configured. It's a one box solution so there won't be thousands of dollars of audiophile interconnects required. It's tiny so there won't be a massive rack of equipment to annoy the wife and impress the friends with. Mine sits in a cabinet behind a closed door, so its not even on display. But if the goal is just to engage with all the music effortlessly, then this is the way to go for sure. And with decent speakers and Dirac configured, it sounds stupendous. Those who have not experienced first hand and are judging based on size, stats and price are missing out for sure.

Great video. Sorry about computer issues.. interesting video although if I was going to spend that I would get naim unity atom

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of good options on the marked. Just got to find what’s right foe your setup. Thanks for watching

@RobertMartin-hp5we

3 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Do you like either Blue Node or cambridge Audio VX2 streamer?

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

This is my first streamer to review so I do not have anything to compare it to.

@RobertMartin-hp5we

3 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman thanks man enjoy your channel

very cool, but not worth the price to me

There is a lot to like about the M10 and at the price it offers great performance and a lot of well sorted functionality. I'm a fan of streamers, they are a good fit with how I access and listen to music. I've had a few, all Yamaha until now. They have all powered a pair of wall mounted PSB mini's and a PSB subseries 200 in a modest listening space. The speakers sound great but sounded even better with each subsequent upgrade. The players have all been concealed within a cabinet, not on display and driven with a mobile device (iphone). Sources include a digitised CD library on a NAS in addition to Spotify, et al. The only connections are mains power, speakers and sub, ethernet cable so they are tidy from a cabling perspective too. First point, the BluOS experience is much better than Musiccast. No comparison really. It's a nice place for controlling what you want to listen to at any time, easily switching between listening sources. That you can hear almost anything ever recorded by just moving your thumb is surely a wonder of the modern age. The M10 is a big upgrade in sound quality compared to the RN-602 that it replaced, despite the similar specs. And combined with Dirac, provides a listening experience not dissimilar to using Magnepan speakers where the sound seems to come from everywhere rather than a point source. That is a very neat trick. And its powerful, able to provide good listening levels with great clarity and no signs of stress from my small speakers. Up to 90db is enough, I've capped the volume to ensure listening levels don't accidentally vaporise my ears which is a potential hazard controlling volume with a mobile device. Don;t ask me how I know this. ;) On the negative side, there is an issue reported by BluOS users that the connected sub is weak, the bass not fully present and the sub not turning on. This turned out to be easily sorted but took a while to find the solution. NAD/PSB were little help sadly, I ended finding the answer with community support. Now it works as it should and sounds great. To those who suggest it's expensive, class D is junk, it can't do AV, etc, don't buy it, this is not for you. But if you need a mature integrated streamer with the convenience of a well featured software ecosystem that is discrete and sounds great, this is definitely worth a look. It's arguably top of the pile in its class. And if you are planning to run a sub, a Y splitter at the sub end of the sub out cable will make your sub sing. It's all win from where I sit.

@vlax543

2 жыл бұрын

Helo there. What do you mean by Y splitter. Do u have link for this explanation 🤔. Right now I fixed the problem by using pre out

@KeithHeinrich

2 жыл бұрын

A cable with one RCA at the M10 subout end to two RCA at the subwoofer end. Solved the issue. NAD refuse to admit its an issue (of course it is) but has fixed it in the M10 V2. In part, the response to a question I posed to NAD recently: This was a common report for the NAD M10 and M33. Many customers expected more low-frequency presence from these powerful NAD amplifiers. After a detailed investigation, our engineers came to the conclusion that the M10 and M33 subw voltage is correct and operating as expected. However, some customers still desired more bass presence. To help provide a product for these customers, the new NAD M10 V2 is featured with updated gain algorithms. --- Correct as designed, but did not work to the satisfaction of users. A defect in other words. Like Fonzy, they just can't admit they were wro..., wro..., wrong.

@vlax543

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the answer however I also google this: In addition, if you still use the RCA "Y" splitter cable, you have the potential to boost the sub's output signal when plugging into both the red and white RCA inputs on the back of the sub. If you choose to do this, please note that connecting both inputs in parallel will double the input voltage which equals a 6dB boost in output. However, the input impedance will then be effectively "halved" and that could potentially cause loading problems for some sources (receivers, amps etc.). Overall, it is not recommended to use a Y-splitter on any of our powered subwoofers that were manufactured in the past 10 years or so. What do u think about "loading problems"

@KeithHeinrich

2 жыл бұрын

​@@vlax543 I am using a PSB subseries 200 sub which is NAD powered and now it works great. I've not noticed any problems.

alllllll those links and nothing to the actual product youre reviewing wtf man

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

After 2 days of shooting / editing and 1/2 day trying to get the video to export successfully, I didn’t spend any time with the description. I was happy to finally get the video uploaded. Quick Google search will find the M10

Don't think any one cares if it has small cloth included think these units are for people with two much money as av amplifier and utube do same job these combination of everything more prone to breakdown nice unit but pricey money better spent on good av amp and speakers

Yes, it has a lot of power. Yes, it has the streaming options. Yes, it has a nice display and other options. The sound of this amp is terrible and dirty for the price. The yamaha worth 1000$ has cleaner sound than this amp. I tested the Nad M10, and compared directly with other amps. This is a class D amp. There are much better choises on the market. Dont trust the reviews online. Better check yourself and be careful.

@jimji2774

3 жыл бұрын

Well thanks for your opinion on the sound of the M10. Given all the others reviews now including yours I doubt it is terrible but good to have as many views as possible. Those features are worth a lot to me too. My Denon AV receiver is so difficult to get music going and the app is so bad that I would never think of streaming music thought it while these all in one music streamer amp things are a a joy to use. Of course it has to sound good to you.

@dachudach1905

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimji2774 Did you try Hegel H190? I stream any music via USB using PC and Hegel H190 with build in DAC. Streaming music is not a problem for me. I fall in love with Hegel from the first sound. There are better options on the market. 2500$ is a lot of money for some people. It's just the matter of taste.

@KeithHeinrich

3 жыл бұрын

I replaced a Yamaha streamer (RN-602) with the M10, and there is no comparison between them. I'm not sure what happened with your audition, but when setup right the M10 is a much better listening experience in a good way by far. The BluOS control is a better experience to Musiccast as well. Tuning with Dirac is icing on the cake.

Time to get mean. This thing is an overpriced piece of crap. I can stream on my Onkyo receiver just fine hook up other sources and get 100 watts per channel so I am going to have to say no to this thing.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

This isn’t meant to replace an AVR. This is more of a living room or bedroom setup. Overpriced? Maybe. Piece of crap, most definitely not. I would not have spent 3 days shooting and editing this video if I felt it was a piece of crap

@sleazypig

3 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman I know I trash Bose a lot but for around 700 you can get the wave system that is all in one speakers streaming everything so yeah the price on this thing is ridiculous. But that's me. We can't like everything they put out.

@Youthman

3 жыл бұрын

$700 for a streamer is a good price but certainly not my idea of quality sound.

@sleazypig

3 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman My parents had a wave radio in the 90s And for a table top set it sounded really good. Those wave systems are the one product that Bose makes that isn't garbage.

@TheDeviant72

3 жыл бұрын

bose hahaha