I like videos like this, fun to see what stuff that isn’t on the top end can do sometimes!

I am 84 years of age and own a 2018 Trailhawk. It is difficult for me to get into the bigger SUV’s and dedicated 4-wheelers. But for me and my normal off-roading this vehicle is perfect. Took a trip to Yellowstone Park last weekend and averaged 30.6 mpg, then it dropped to 30.3. I go where I want to go and this thing does what I want it to. It has more road noise than I would like but I can live with that! Great review!

110k on my 2017 and no issues, removable my sky panels, full skid plates, decent 1st gear, mid 20’s mpg.

Really impressive, and it still looks great after all these years. Does not look dated at all. Crazy that it has more ground clearance and underbody protection than the new Toyota LandCruiser.

I was the only one on the road in this thing in harsh winters getting it. It was a horribly misunderstood and under appreciated vehicle. The torque management with a 1.5 inch lift and bigger than the stock traihawk tires made this thing the most capable subcompact vehicle of its time. Once you stop comparing it to a Wrangler is when it shines.

@JF-lt5zc

22 күн бұрын

They shouldn't have called it a Renegade, then... I've seen videos here and there of these getting it done. But, they are so awkward looking, which I is probably why it wasn't particular popular.

@blackdaniels4876

22 күн бұрын

@@JF-lt5zc I agree. Honestly "Compass" moniker would have been better for this than the acutal Compass because of how small it was. Giving the Renegade a prior Wrangler trim name was setting this up for fail and Jeep didn't have to rely on the "prior model to cuv trope" to sell this. That trope has few examples of success. My bet is that Fiat pushed them to it. After my .75 inch wheel spacers, 1.5 inch lift and 225/65r17 BFGs everyone loved this thing's look and it was still pretty capable stock.

@joshua7426

20 күн бұрын

​@JF-lt5zc it was actually very popular

@captainrex4794

17 күн бұрын

I drive a Gladiator Mojave and I absolutely love the Renegade. I think it looks sick.

It's already doing better than the new Tacoma! 😂

TFLs original Renegade videos are what actually pushed me to go pick up my '16 Trailhawk. The addition of a 1.5" lift and it goes basically anywhere other than rock crawling. It's very interesting seeing them revisit it with Tommy. It's a more than capable off-roader and has been reliable so far.

My cousin owns one and he bragged that he could haul his 3 kids around safely, while not worrying too much about getting stuck. Guess it depends on the driver's needs

@KG-kq9tk

25 күн бұрын

Subaru would be smarter option

I'm impressed by this Renegade Trailhawk. Seems pretty capable.

I know why Roman loves this car. Because it has "Ciao" written on it. 😁

You should have brought Nathan with you on that last obstacle. He would have gotten over it. 🤣

@Malc664

25 күн бұрын

Did they have a backup car though? They need to get home

@backwoodstherapy

5 күн бұрын

​@@Malc664I said he would have gotten over it, never said he would have gotten home. 😂

People trash talk this but I feel it was a great vehicle for taking off the beaten path and it’s a shame Jeep has done away with it. Off road angles are up there with a Wrangler

@theaveragewoodsman6002

25 күн бұрын

The reason people trash this vehicle is because it's a Fiat with horrible reliability.

@richfarfugnuven6308

25 күн бұрын

​@@theaveragewoodsman6002100% correct...

@SpyderDan1985

24 күн бұрын

@@theaveragewoodsman6002my latitude is less than 5 years old 67000 miles hasn't given me a single problem

@theaveragewoodsman6002

24 күн бұрын

@SpyderDan1985 I'm glad, but personal anecdotes aren't evidence. They're non-systematic observations, nothing more.

@luchaDor

22 күн бұрын

@@theaveragewoodsman6002 you talk about non-systemic experiences while posting nothing more than the same narrative without anything to back it up. How long did you own your Renegade?

This would have been a good opportunity to put it up against a Bronco Sport Badlands.

My Renagade Trailhawk now is about 235k km....and still going. Perfect vehicle as daily driver AND reasonable offroader. Did West-Alps with it couple of times. Never let me down. Unfortunately, no real comparable replacemet on the horizont ...

@malaw514

18 күн бұрын

Bronco sport badlands

@oliverbaar645

18 күн бұрын

@@malaw514 ... unfortunately not available in Germany.... I hope Toyota will introduce the Mini Landcruiser in Germany...

@LucasBortoliniKuhn

8 күн бұрын

Not sure if the Renegade won't come again soon though. Here in Brazil, where it sells VERY well, Stellantis already announced we're getting another generation of Renegades soon, and also that they would grab our new facelift and use it to deliver an electric Renegade in the US at a very affordable price point. They thought about replacing it with a smaller and less off-roady Avenger, but now it seems they won't. Renegade will probably keep going for another 5-10 years here, so it's hard to see how it won't get another shot in the US and EU.

Arguably the most off-road worthy compact crossover ever made. It is definitely worthy of the Jeep badge.

@matthewgaines10

25 күн бұрын

You mean the Bronco Sport? It’s better and in the Compact class.

@NiceHeistFilms

25 күн бұрын

​@@matthewgaines10 It's barely better, and closer in size to the Cherokee, which is a far more capable vehicle. The bronco sport is proof that marketing works.

@AHungryHunky

25 күн бұрын

It's Sub Compact, which puts it up against things like the Kia Soul and Chevy Trailblazer. The Renegades biggest flaw is that it was actually made to go offroad somewhat and as such, was expensive compared to the plastic clad competition. Things like the Trailblazer with its "activ" trim and the Crosstrek with its CVT ate it up, and the Bronco Sport finished it. It's sales being cannibalized by its sibling Compass and even Jeep's Halo vehicle the Wrangler (why pay 35-40k for this micromachine when that puts you in the seat lf a Wrangler Sport with no frills?) did not help. People are more than happy to have something that looks offroady, but can't actually preform. And anyone actually wanting to offroad would pony up for a Wrangler or buy an older used model.

Fiat pandaa was a good offroader tho

@pltyes21

26 күн бұрын

Agree 100 percent however this is based on the 500x platform. Different ball game, a lot heavier and overall bigger. A lot of the pandas ability comes from it dimensions and weight

You need to do the same trail in a 2024 compass

Dear Americans: you should see what the Italians, French and Spanish doing with these Renegades in the alps and Pyrenees. They are great.

@luchaDor

25 күн бұрын

Got a YT channel recommendation?

@ilovesheryterry

Күн бұрын

driving through snow like they would in a quattro?

It was never intended to compete with the Wrangler (why would it?). It was designed to be a compact, efficient, affordable vehicle that could comfortable carry a full family while also holding its own off road. It did all of those things right from the start (I remember when it first came out, the price started with a 1, and the fuel economy started with a 3), and this entire video is you describing elements of it that helped it do all those things, and how it does them well. Like you said, once you look at it through the right lens, it's actually quite a good car. It's always been in the top 2 or 3 cars that I would buy myself.

Most trails are not even a challenge for a wrangler. Just a drive in the park. But with the renegade you have to work for it so you get a challenge. I have a power wagon and most times it’s just boring. It just crawls over everything. I also have a Compass Trailhawk and I have much more fun doing trails with it cause it’s a challenge. Took it up Imogene in Colorado no problem. Ophir pass no problem. Much more fun doing trails with something that makes you work a little for it. Makes that Jeep badge a little sweeter!😂

The Renegade will be a collectors item.

@Mebbwebb

6 күн бұрын

its coming back as all electric here in the states in 2027 so who knows.

8:45 I agree with you, Tommy. The problem with Subaru is the CVT transmission. The Jeep Renegade proves that a vehicle with a non-CVT trans. & proper gearing is far superior for off-roading even with a small engine.

@alanmay7929

25 күн бұрын

If Subaru makes use of conventional automatic or manual gearbox they are going to be basically rock crawler

My girl has had a Renegade Trailhawk since she bought it new in 2018 and honestly it has held up really well. Very capable off road for a little crossover, easy to maneuver around town, and I’ve even found it fun to hoon around on back roads and gravel trails. I’m a big fan of this thing. Combine that with luxuries like leather heated seats, dual zone climate, a panoramic roof, and Apple CarPlay… it’s a fantastic do-it-all vehicle.

Tommy you’re an awesome presenter, love your content!

The Fiat Panda is actually a decently capable off roader from what I've seen and I've seen these Renegades tackle similar stuff to some Subarus. Especially with the tiny turbo engine, it's a pretty compelling package if you want a "Jeep" without having to live with a JEEP!

@sonandsanford4963

23 күн бұрын

put this with the crosstrek on a trail.

I love these trailhawk videos. Coming from someone who wheels a TJ wrangler, i would love one of these to take on some trails and just have fun. CALL IT THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER!

Awesome! Great vid. Thanks for sharing

You know it’s great when TFL post

Currently living in Brazil, this car is absolutely everywhere, feels like its 1/3 of the country's fleet.

It’s a good little city car if you live in a place with winter.

Honestly they're cute, and affordable. Wouldn't mind it if I couldn't afford a similar model year wrangler. Doesn't quite deserve the trail badge though, it really is more for less maintained fire roads at best.

I had one of these, best all around vehicle I have ever owned. The jeep totally owned Midwest winters. Wish it never got into that accident 😢

Reminds me of an upscale Suzuki Jimmy. If it wasn’t so expensive $44K+ CDN I might consider it over a Mini Countryman or X1. Yep, I don’t go off-road.

I'll post it every time TFL decides to poop on the Renegade. Go watch the Colorado Mallcrawlers videos with the Renegades.

@off-roadingexplained8417

25 күн бұрын

I have the 2.4 Cherokee Trailhawk, so my jeep is basically a renegade until it's in low , then it's a different ball game. That said , the amount of time that I *actually* need the 56:1 low range is pretty rare. I also own the compass Trailhawk which is almost exactly the same as the renegade Trailhawk. The compass and renegade have better angles than the Cherokee Trailhawk does , from the factory. The compass will do a lot of what my Jeep will do. The huge difference between the compass and the Cherokee is the handling. The compass feels tippy compared to my Cherokee around turns at high speeds . Even with a 2 inch lift , my Cherokee Trailhawk handles better than my compass Trailhawk. Wheel spacers and spring rubbers or stiffer springs would probably fix the compass when it comes to handling. It's not bad at all, it's just not the Cherokee. Consider this : the regular, non Trailhawk Cherokee will slalom equally with a Taurus sho or Pontiac Grand am from the 1990s . It's pretty good at handling.

@lunra

25 күн бұрын

Don't forget about Dirt Every Day doing Black Bear Pass in one either! :)

@Gene1969

24 күн бұрын

@@lunra I'm looking that one up. That's gotta be good.

I got a jeep Cherokee Trailhawk as a rental car 2 years ago, we decided to try to take it over Ophir pass in Colorado as we were headed to Durango from Telluride. Needless to say we renamed it the trail pigeon as it made it a 1/4 of the way before it really struggled and we turned around. It didn’t help having 3 guys and 3 MTBs on the back, but still.

A "94 XJ drives _just fine_ on the road -- it's the Rhythm of the Jeep!

Now of only they could make this mildly reliable

Good little soft roader indeed!! 👍👍

Ends up being the best car TFL bought

@mattalexander4699

22 күн бұрын

Nope

@Ryan-fb1ot

21 күн бұрын

Panda

Tommy, how do you not know of the Fiat Panda? That thing had a pretty decent off-road reputation.

@michaelploucha6766

24 күн бұрын

Cause they're not sold in the North America

I have one with a camo wrap that i put on it. We use for thermal hunting hogs in east tx. They are tuff, I bought mine about six months ago a friend of mine is a dealer so he bought me a used one at auction price. It was yellow like yours with 41k on it and got it for $9100.00. I have beat the hell out of it and had mudd/water coming in the doors and it still goes !

@ValkenDnB

25 күн бұрын

That’s a great price

I feel kind of bad now because I really hated this vehicle that wore an iconic name of a vehicle that it was the complete opposite of...After watching this video, I had no idea that there was this particular version...Now I've changed my tune on it after watching what it is capable of...I'm man enough to admit that I was totally wrong about this little jeep and that I could see myself with one...Would have to learn about that transmission and it's problems though...Just too bad it isn't sold here anymore...

Great for mild to moderate snow. Perfect and capable for 1st time suv drivers and young adults to get to work and school in inclement weather. There shouldn't be an issue for it at all.

The smaller Trailhawks are so cool. I have a '14 Cherokee TH with a 2" lift and 30s. I've never gotten stuck, but I've pulled my fair share of stuck vehicles out with it. The only downside is they are Fiat based, and come with gremlins and repairs.

Great video... My Renegade is same color, same black patch on the hood, same skidplates, same 8.7 inch lift.. but is a Latitude, with the Upland Edition.. Biggest difference is... i have the 1.3 turbo.

next trip to moab, check out box car bridge just west of there. some amazing scenery!!

Never forget batman driving one of these POS cars in batman vs superman, that was hilarious. Wouldve been a fun video if tommy didnt wimp out and went over that last obstacle.

@michaelb2226

25 күн бұрын

Was still pretty sick zipping around.

@SpyderDan1985

24 күн бұрын

I mean he's out of costume and just borrows it from a security guard because it's the middle of the day so...

Happy Saturday Morning ☕☕

Even though ive never been a Jeep guys, ive always like the look of these and they seem to offer great performance for a small off roader

2 inch lift and you can do that trail without question. It will do a 4-in lift but I don't recommend that because you're going to lose your suspension travel. That jeep already has fantastic off-road angles. You don't really need the clearance or the angles ... The lift is so that you can bump it a little bit in these situations to make up for the gearing. It's not that it locks it into first gear... It doesn't use first gear at all unless you are in low or unless you manually shift. First gear IS the low. It starts in second gear under normal driving conditions.

impressive - rented one a while back and it was a comfortable drive

Its amazing what a good set a tires will do.

As long as you don't need clearance, it's 99% about the tires. Put these tires on 90% of cars and they would do fine. It does likely have somewhat decent approach/depart and breakover angle as it's short and the wheels are close to the corners.

We took one on black bear in 2016. It was scary but it did great!

I had one of these as a rental back when I did drive-away car delivery. Drove a different vehicle every other day. My company wasn't happy I upgraded my rental to 4WD, even though they would've paid for the chains (that cost more) I would've had to buy on a 2WD. It did very well on the back roads getting around Donner Pass being closed on I-80. I somehow ended up on a different road from the intended detour with no traffic and thoroughly snow covered roads. One of the more comfortable seats I've been in too.

I have a 22 Compass Trailhawk and it’s pretty much the same drivetrain. The 9 speed under normal driving uses 2-9 gears with 2nd being 1st. Only when in low range will the trans select the 1st gear and stay locked in 1st. With a mild lift and some beefier tires it is a very capable and comfortable vehicle while still getting very decent gas mileage. During snow and in the sand dunes it does surprisingly very good. Not wrangler good but definitely surprised.

Other than the oil consumption issues some 2.4 tigershark engines had they are overall very reliable with no other glaring issues other than not tons of power. The ZF 9 speed while it does have some odd shifts at times is reliable hardware wise. I have a 2014 Cherokee with the 3.2 Pentastar & ZF 9 speed and right at 140k miles with no issues. I tow 3k regularly with it in stop and go driving and no issues. Did change the fluid at 80k miles due to towing use even though FCA "claims" its lifetime fluid. No fluid lasts forever. There are other ZF 9 equipped vehicles on the roads with much higher miles as well such as the Ram Promaster vans. The weakest link with these awd/4x4 small Jeeps is the PTU. They are common to fail once over 100k miles. Other than that they generally go the miles with little issue.

The original Renegades were TJ Wranglers with a hard top incorporated into the frame (Not removable). They were great cars. I haven’t driven the newer version, but people that have them like them. There are some great mods you can do.

There are a lot these where I live, but that's mainly because it was the cheapest car on the DCJR dealership lots in recent years. I looked at buying one about six years ago, but the forums had too many stories about electrical issues (typical Fiat build complaint) so I passed. A co-worker even bought one new around that time. Still, there were videos that did see its value. I do find it odd that TFL is doing this series now that its been discontinued in the US, though.

I think this is a good opportunity for a Bronco Sport Big Bend edition, we all know the capabilities of badlands but big bend doesn’t have many test videos and I think the sand mode it’s surprisingly enough.

I was off roading my compass trailhawk today and was in water up to my windshield and made it home.

Italy has a strong heritage of rally and off-road vehicles. People who tradhed the little Renegade don't know cars from horse carts.

Flush the ATF of the ZF 948TE transmission. I've had my, just bought, Trailhawk diesel done at 210.000 km. It was like black coffee, completely burned. Maybe too late, noticing some wear, but it shifts much smoother now...

my neighbor has one of those with an exhaust on it lol. he loves it

Love the plastic! Sweeps hand across saying its easy to clean. Brings out a land rover type. Luxurious interior dash covered in the softest of hymen leather!

I had one for 3 years it was a 2020 model Trailhawk with the 2.0 Turbo diesel much better engine than the 2.4, quicker and more torque and 39mpg around town. In the deep snow I could fly through and some off roading. It’s not a lifted Wrangler but one hell of an all rounder, comfortable, well equipped, good mpg and good amount of luggage space. The downside to it was electrics with numerous glitches.

My compass upland gets me plenty of places people claim are 4x4 high clearance only. Just gotta know how to drive a crossover, and use that front skid plate a bit 😂

if its a 2016 it was sold 8 or even 9 years ago Maybe the Transmission has somewhat proven its Reliability

my 1999 honda crv had this trail. little shitter had this simple reliability . had slight lift and some aggressive off road tires hankook dyna pro MT 2015ish don't remember the size. i had so so much fun in that vehicle i pulled out many. f350 plow truck, a nissan juke, dodge Dakota, chevy 1500, mid 90s jeep Cherokee, nissan something or other. best vehicle i ever owned that didn't own me a dam thing. wish i had a channel at the time. mighty mouse.

Tommy you were up that obstacle already then you backed up 🙄. You just needed to give it a small bump, you gave up way to easy.

Was this ahead of it's time? Seems strange for Jeep not to have this, at least in an updated format, in their current lineup given the popularity of off-roading and overlanding themed vehicles.

Does everyone forget the that Jeep Renegade literally has almost the same specs as the Jeep YJ Renegade? And i doubt that anyone would call the YJ Renegade a "bad" off roader.

It's basically a big Fiat Panda 4x4, and if you know what that is, then you will know this will be good. The Panda really punches above it's size.

I think this would be a great winter beater that could be used as an yard truck after a couple winters. Then just scrap it. But only if I can get one in decent condition for $2,000 or less. They are currently to expensive to be worth it. But maybe in a few years. I also think Jeep missed an opportunity. If they were offered in 2 door with the 3.2 V6 out of the Cherokee and gave it a real low range, it could probably be a hit for less serious off road drivers that need something comfortable for daily driving and for the wife and kids.

2:15 . I remember these days I have so much positive thoughts. But I’m not gonna say them because I will cry but you did outstanding with Alex in this new off-road video bud Hey Alex Outstanding work ❤ you Ps you should put a side by side picture of you tommy up so the fans can see how much you grown as a presenter. They are not ready

@haroldbeauchamp3770

26 күн бұрын

Nah, it’s not that we don’t appreciate Tommy and Alex. It’s just that TFL has phenomenal staff. Andre is quickly approaching Nathan as GOAT status. Nathan is a living legend. He’s not featured as much as he used to be. But I get it, Nathan is busy molding these younger kids into how to become a GOAT like him.

True Jeeper using the fog lights without the slightest bit of fog.

I suspect that little "soft roader" would do better than my 85 Holden Jackaroo (Isuzu Trooper / big Horn), which is a "real body on frame four wheel drive, complete with two speed transfer case... in those conditions... Of course my Humble Jackaroo is not equipped with locking diffs, things might change a little if it were, but stock vs stock, I reckon you would have me. It would be interesting to compare the Baby Jeep up against something like the 80 series land cruiser (do you still have that?).

When it comes to sub compact SUV s i'd say this vehicle is king it is severely more capable than a Honda crv and it has better. Torque management than a Subaru cross track I have driven the cross track on the roads but never off roads but I have driven Subaru foresters off-road. 2002 generation and they do off-road well but the problem with the Subaru is that you cannot configure anything this Jeep you have the ability. To configure your traction control thus more capable.

Sometimes you need the Nathan method. A couple of bumps would have got you over those last obstacles.

The Compass is basically a Renegade, right? Does the Trailhawk version of the Compass come with the skid plates and same transmission with "low range" as the Renegade Trailhawk?

Same place, can you do the same with 2016Subaru outback pls

I argue with a good friend because I like TFL, and he doesn't. When Tommy quit on that little bump, I had to write to my friend and surrender this round to him.

Great job Renegade and Tommy.

The Fiat Panda has always been competent off road as long as you don't mind "Fixing It Again Tony". The little Subaru is the more reliable choice.

We need TFL sleep test!

I had a 17 patriot sport. And I took on stuff like that. And people watching me like I'm a idiot 😂. And with street tires..

awesome

Used Jeep Renegades are going to cost more because of these videos.

Renegang 😎✌ lift it!

Not bad for only having around 18:1 "Crawl" ratio.

A good video could be comparing to the Cherokee trailhawk or that limited edition 4x4 model.

@TFLoffroad

25 күн бұрын

Great point!

The videos made back when it came out should’ve tipped you off on what it can do. TFL made some of those videos.

I’ll take an old LR2 if I need a small off-roader

I feel like my AWD Nissan Rogue would be able to go where that thing does.

The terrain modes in these are no joke. Put it in sand mode and give it a little gas, its no race car but I think the get up and go it suddenly has might suprise you. Sand mode is the only mode that makes it 60/40 with a rear wheel bias. The others are either split 50/50 or biased to the front.

@tallll70

25 күн бұрын

60/40 is good extra, plus the selec-terrain has good working sensing and programing, many vehicles go nowhere on single wheel traction opposite to bias, including rav4

@AHungryHunky

25 күн бұрын

@tallll70 Yeah, sometimes it takes a moment for it to figure out what needs done, but it will do it. Surprises, people, even me.

Don't underestimate Fiats. The Panda 4x4 is incredibly competent off road and it can easily go through many places where larger and heavier rigs just can’t, much like the Jimny.

didnt know they still made this

I remember when a Renegade was a tough real Jeep........I am not knocking this box, never drove it, however would Enzo Ferrari put a Ferrari drive train/engine into a Ford 500? It will never be the same.

Now it's time to modify it

Isn't this based on the euro Fiat Panda, a pretty venerable compact 4x4 that has had quite the following for decades?