Here's Why This Old Truck Is Better Than Any New One! Cheap Jeep Challenge S2 Ep.5
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( www.TFLtruck.com ) In This episode of the Cheap Jeep Challenge we take a up close and personal look at the 1989 Jeep Comanche only find out it is better than most new trucks you can buy today.
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You will have more satisfaction owning that old truck than a $60k new one.
@cleetismcdougall5425
5 жыл бұрын
I like old vehicles but a new one is 1000% more satisfying to own.
@Whiteandsonsgarage
5 жыл бұрын
100%having a new is like driving a car, driving a older one is a experience in it own
@lrharner
5 жыл бұрын
@@Whiteandsonsgarage goes to the what did you buy your ride to do there are always trade offs. i take truck
@Whiteandsonsgarage
5 жыл бұрын
Butch Harner 100%. Would be great to have both, but can only afford older atm
Tommy, I really think you've found your niche. Very informative, obviously well researched and with a bit of nostalgia thrown in. Thanks.
@seankinder2311
4 жыл бұрын
tommys niche is being a tool
@humanpr0ject1
4 жыл бұрын
@@seankinder2311 tommy seems like a good dude; you do not
@seankinder2311
4 жыл бұрын
@@humanpr0ject1 ooh, good one buddy
I love the older, inexpensive truck videos that y'all have been making! Keep it up!
The Comanche the vehicle most of us wanted again. The Gladiator The one no one asked for.
@HubersRanch
5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it like that with almost all vehicles they are bringing back now... poor blazer...
@farmsgrace341
5 жыл бұрын
Huber's Ranch yup. GM should have badged it as a trailblazer. It has nothing in common with the original blazer.
@MDC2020
4 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@bernieeod57
4 жыл бұрын
It is actually the Scrambler re born. The Original Gladiator was the full size J Series truck
@xmo552
4 жыл бұрын
The jeep Wrangler pickup was way better. It's a 2 door with a slightly extended cab. The 4 door is so wrong.
My jeep diesel Commanche was a great little truck. 35 - 40MPG across Canada. I wasn't expecting to go fast, just get the work I needed to get done.
*You could take your kids to soccer practice.* Back when it was new kids rode in the bed of the pickup.
@680ecks
5 жыл бұрын
I loved that when i was a kid . A friends father would take all the kids for ice cream . About ten of us would pile into the back of his f150 and go across town . It was great fun for us kids.
@tjshine8022
5 жыл бұрын
Or they rode their bikes to practice instead of spoiling the shit out of them!
@joshuaadler4259
4 жыл бұрын
Well move to wyoming and you still can
The old jeeps were superior for one reason... The CROTCH VENT.... best vehicle feature ever to grace summer time drivers in Texas.
@JesseLJohnson
5 жыл бұрын
I have AC in my seats now to help with the deep south summer swamp ass.
@joshuaadler4259
4 жыл бұрын
My vents don't switch so I can't relate (just remembered I don't have AC either lol)
@marcussilva2141
5 ай бұрын
Dude fr
I miss actual mini trucks like this.
Tommy is doing a fantastic job on his reviews! Is quickly becoming my favorite member of the TFL team. Keep up the great work!!!!
Ha- Tommy “the French are good at building croissants” mica
I've been daily driving a 91 comanche 4x4 for the past 5 years. I absolutely love it and I've owned lots of vehicles
@16driver16
5 жыл бұрын
You sir, have a much better engine and transmission than the jeep on this video. Good job getting the right year!
@xmo552
4 жыл бұрын
Brutal, Which engine/transmission and what kind of MPG are you getting ?
@DestinationUnknown4x4
4 жыл бұрын
@@xmo552 I have the 4.0 high output with the ax15. Running 35" tires and 4.88 gears. Too be honest I'm not worried about the gas mileage but it's probably around 15mpg. I'm considering a future diesel swap but the 4.0 is a great motor. I will be dropping in a bigger gas tank to help with range
@xmo552
4 жыл бұрын
@@DestinationUnknown4x4 Nice. That's not bad mileage for 35s. What's it take to fit them? My neighbor has a junked Comanche, but he won't sell it to me. I have a 2004 WJ 4x4 with the 4.0 and 3.73s on 32s. I get 18-20ish MPG.
Best part about the steering wheel: no buttons!
@anotherrandomtexan25
5 жыл бұрын
But I like my radio volume buttons!
@sarabrown2082
3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@robmalcolm8042
3 жыл бұрын
The buttons aren't bad but to some they may make things more clumsy like accidentally pressing them
I just bought a middle eastern S pec. 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser, J79 single cab, 4X4, 5 speed manual, 4.5 v8 diesel, pickup, that really is, the only "built like they use to truck left", I am stationed Germany and the truck can't be taken back with me to the States, Your truck reminds me of my truck, which is wonderful.
Had 360k miles on my ‘88 Cherokee Chief when the transmission gave up
My old man owned multiple jeep trucks including a Comanche. It fueled my love of the brand.
For whatever reason. I ALWAYS found the Comanche the coolest truck of them all. Still makes my smile when I see one. (Which is a an absolute rarity I live).
Perfect road head set up
The renix system wasn't bad. I had a 87 xj that ran good up until I sold it with 270k on it. It used oil and the air didn't work but never had a problem out of the renix engine management system. I like to think that jeep is still running but who knows. The high output system that replaced the renix system was probably better but I never had one so I can't say.
As a 70's kid I perfected the e-brake turn with a foot pedal, you just have to hold the release out with one hand and steer with the other.
At last, a young person with practical common sense! It accelerates,it stops,it does truck stuff. One of the reasons I like yjs over tjs is that steering wheel.Great video.
To me it’s exactly why I love my 03 f150 supercrew fx4. It does what you ask of it. It’s not a classic or as cool as the Jeep but to me for a truck it’s all I need. I just had a/c recharged and locked at similar truck but new it was $62k sticker price. Holly crap.
The glove box hinges at the bottom so that it becomes a "tray" for setting things on. My '95 Cherokee Country even had little indentations where the wanted you to set your cup. ONLY practical for when you were parked. You would be eventually wearing your drink if you tried it on the go.
@markgaudry7549
5 жыл бұрын
I remember the same thing in our 1964 Valiant. Mom used it as her "kitchen" while making sandwiches on long road trips. The cup markers were pretty much useless as we never stopped to eat.
My parents bought one of these new in 1986. White and long bed but 4x4. We drove it for years and years. the last 5-10 years it never left the farm as it could not pass inspection without putting $$$ into it. Finally it sat under a tree until we traded it for something to another farmer. Might still be running today.
My first truck was a 1975 J-10. The original Gladiator. I thought about replacing it with the Comanche but ended up driving it for 29 years. When gas finally hit $4.00 a gallon and I needed an extra cab to haul around the family, It was time to replace “FrankenJeep” AKA “Frankie”. The Comanche was no longer available and didn’t come in an extra cab. I ended up replacing it with a 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4X4. 380,000 miles later, it is still going and has earned the nickname “4 Cylinder Frankie” AKA “Little Frankie”
I'd love to come across a Comanche in great shape like that one, I'd snatch it up in a second.
@robertrichardson9953
5 жыл бұрын
Pay me the right amount and I'll sell you 2
@Jarovball
4 жыл бұрын
@@robertrichardson9953 do you still have comanche? Please contact with me
Bench seats were awesome almost like air-ride. The glove box door does not open the wrong way. It opens into a shelf. Some vehicles actually had recessed circles to place a can of soda. Like a picnic shelf. It's quite amusing watching a youngster talk about an old truck because you weren't there you just don't know about some things. I do enjoy the videos. Much better than the ones I'm not making. 😊
@crumpb63
5 жыл бұрын
I agree it does open up the right way I had a 87 short bed same color. The cab was small but the glove box made a good Shelf on road
BF Goodrich km3 tires. I build those tires at the Fort Wayne, Indiana plant. The sidewalls are no joke.
This brought back some memories. My first vehicle was an '86 Comanche. I loved that truck, wish I could get it back
First vehicle I have ever owned (since 2007). I'm currently restoring it at the moment. I miss driving it😢.
Am i the only one who hates it when people complain about modern vehicles.Ya know what, I think this 80s jeep is too complicated. A covered wagon is much more reliable with all the comforts a man truly needs.
@jook13
5 жыл бұрын
When you need to fix your vehicle, you really appreciate the simplicity of a truck like this. Don't get me wrong, I love my 2017 ram 2500 Laramie, heated and cooled seats, big navigation screen, all that jazz.... but I really love my 86 samurai because it's capable and super cheap and easy to maintain.
@michaelflick4346
5 жыл бұрын
@@jook13 Agreed. I feel like you can love both of those kinds of vehicles. I think it is stupid and immature to completely discount either a sophisticated vehicle or a basic meat n potatoes vehicle. Both can be great in their own way. I hate when people make generalizations. Maybe thats just me.
Great review Tommy.........I like the way you speak ........very informative n great articulation
This way my very first vehicle, and I loved my old Comanche! This video definitely makes me miss it. An absolute "work horse" for it's size!
I subscribed to TFL truck for the classic Cherokee and Comanche videos. Keep them coming, as well as coverage of the new Gladiator!
I agree Tommy. Commanche was amazing. Well put together.
In 1989 everyone was buying Toyota’s and Ford Ranger’s. I love the Comanche’s and XJ Cherokee’s!
@Whiteandsonsgarage
5 жыл бұрын
I would buy the Comanche now over most trucks
Jeep 4.0 engine is bulletproof
My mother used to have a 89 Comanche back in the day, we had alot of fun with it. Throw a mattress in the back with one of those toppers and watch movies at the drive inn. Unfortunately it was 2 wheel drive and no air conditioning, so sweltering new england summers sucked. Also went a few years without music because a guy stole the radio out of the truck at the car dealership and cut all the wires inside, the mechanics couldn't even figure out how to repair that so we just put some black cardboard over the hole. After selling that truck, just having a vehicle with a radio and air conditioning felt like a luxury.
I love older trucks , simple and reliable
I had one of these brand new. A 91 I think. Basically no one wanted them so you could talk the dealer down on price like 6 grand. I had a fully optioned $18k truck out the door for $12k. It was a fun truck and like you said, just a swiss army knife of pickups.
You are spot on man. Those turbine wheels are literally a work of art. I just got those for my 99XJ and I love them
Where is all the cup holders for all those "here, hold my beer" moments ???? Lol🤣 Regardless....awesome find would love to have it..... nothing like a jeep. And yes that 4.0 is a rock star. Just the same as the old 300 straight 6 in the old Fords.
@philtripe
5 жыл бұрын
hmm yeah, until Ford decided to use wooden timing gears...Ford called it "composite" but we all know it was wood dust and epoxy...only Ford could screw up timing gears
@timothycc711
5 жыл бұрын
@@philtripe duh huh hah derp
@paulallison6689
5 жыл бұрын
Along w/ the old Mopar Slant 6's & Chevy straight 6's also!
Dear Jeep, Can we get the Comanche back and maybe a Grand Comanche?
@justinkase1360
5 жыл бұрын
I doubt they would ever bring back the name, too "insensitive".
@crumpb63
5 жыл бұрын
Chrysler killed the Comanche. They should have killed the Dakota instead and kept the Comanche. The Comanche is a lot better pick up
I agree with you, I'd rather have this old truck than a new one. Especially if I am spending my own hard earned money.
@johnpearson492
5 жыл бұрын
It's a European designed engine management system. Which contrary to what this video stated, I found worked extremely well in my Comanche. The engine itself was an update of an AMC designating back to the 60s.
I really enjoyed this video Tommy
I miss my Comanche now. It had those wheels and the Pioneer stickers, and it had bucket seats.
reminds me of all the reasons i loved my frontier pro4x. it was the extended cab, red with a manual too.
The Comanche is my all time favorite. Its beautiful in its simplicity. Great looking Comanche!
Great video. Comanche Jeep are so rare. I have 2 late 90's Cherokee's and love'em . Without hesitation I'd buy a Comanche, preferably a 92. I must say one thing you failed to mention is how easy they are to work on, and parts are still available. Nice video. Thanks.
The 4 and 6 cyl engines that AMC used were from the Rambler days, 2 sizes of 4 cyl and the 2 sizes of 6 cyl (232 CI and the 256 CI). I had one of the early AMCs in the form of a 70 1/2 Gremlin with the X package and 256 cu in engine which could turn 18 sec flat in the 1/4 mile (stock). And also had the 4x4 Gremlin model from the 80s also with the big 6 cyl.
I had a one with the 4 cylinder (I believe a 2.5) and the 5 speed. I talk about how cool that truck was all the time. Love this series brings back fun memories. I saw one for sale I buy it on the spot! 😎
You are awsome Tommy. I am partial to your understanding of what trucks were originally meant to do, and your appreciation for that. I would much rather have a truck of the past rather than new.
Never had a perfect vehicle, but had some that were so good and boring they were appliances, or felt like they were anyway, sometimes the little glitchy things give a vehicle a personality. Friend has a old 75 Chevy pickup, compared to today’s trucks, it’s slow, rides bad ain’t got air and only a AM radio, but I love riding the old Chevy, she’s a real man’s truck, so loud it’s hard to even have a conversation, but what a great truck! Tommy awesome video and I love the old Jeep pickup, personality by the tons!
Tommy, i whole heartedly agree on most if not all of your reasons for the Comanche being the better truck. In their search for more car like qualities, all, not some, but all vehicle manufacturers of vehicles for the North American market, have gone away from what is needed, and now chase after what they believe is wanted. Problem is, designers are nerdly little geeks that don't work for a living. Personally, I don't want a computer to drive. I would prefer a truck. Diesel or gas, stick or auto, buckets or bench. Don't matter. But at least a truck.
The Comanche is a keeper, that is unless you want to sell it to me :)
@luisbarraza9709
5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Dickey or me
I used to love those vent windows in my old Jeep. Would allow a great flow of air on nice days. I also miss gauges with actual oil pressure, temperature degrees and volt meter.
This is why I've kept my 1988 Comanche 4.0 for so long. Not my daily anymore but I'm in the process of starting a full restore. Also has bucket seats which has been nice. Auto trans is far better and has been solid for me. Ran 4 port 19lb injectors for better economy and power deliver, magnaflow catback, intake baffle removal, tightened up the front end a bit with poly bushings on the sway bar, and tons of other little things already done. SporTruck model and that's the end goal with it. A bit off road but perfectly compliant on the road with improvements in handling/braking.
Haha! I just bought an 88 Comanche. I luv it. Looks good next to my Cherokee
First time I have seen anyone review a bench seat and steering wheel, This is a earth shattering
In less words it's what a pickup truck should be. JUST A PICKUP TRUCK!!!!
Thing looks mint! Just got a 90 that's had lots of work done to it. Most of it being updated to 97+ interior and obd2.
Great video Tommy, very well done.
They should start making trucks like this again. Not Jeep specifically, but, all truck manufacturers. I mean, they can keep making their big fancy trucks with all the new fancy gadgets and gizmos but maybe just add a simple basic truck to their line up, something like this Jeep. With a simple usable bed. With a bench seat just like in this one except where the center seat drops into an armrest and some storage in the armrest and maybe some below the seat. The simple dash is perfect but maybe add a more usable glove box, AC, a new but simple radio, cup holders, and only cruise control buttons on the steering wheel.A simple old school suspension system, driving, and 4WD systems. Maybe stock 31’s on the 4WD model since 33’s look too big for this truck. And a simple automatic transmission with steering shifter and a knob type 4WD selector on the dash will clear a lot of floor space. A simple usable, off-roading, hauling, towing, every day driving machine that an average guy/gal can pick up brand new at a dealer for around $20k (hopefully) instead of going thru the hassle of buying an old truck and fixing everything to make it drivable and usable. But thats what we’re stuck with doing because old trucks rock and new trucks are just way too fancy and expensive. It seems like as time passes, the manufacturers are more and more tailoring everything to the needs and wants of the well-off and the rich and we normal mid-class and poor people are constantly being forgotten about.
For a video you guys had to make on the fly, Tommy you nailed it!!! Wish I had a chance to see that truck in person when I was at your offices!!
I love my Jeep Comanche! Same red color, bought it from my boss, it had only 145k miles on it.
I have an 87 4x4 Comanche, I agree with you completely. It is the perfect truck.
Great video! Been looking for an MJ for years now. Finally bought a rust free red 88 for $1500!! Trying to keep myself from turning it into a rock crawler like my ZJ and LJ. Just want to use it as a ranch truck if I can contain myself.
Great review! I was even able to cook my family supper and walk the dog during the steering wheel review😁
@lauradahlus
Жыл бұрын
😆 🤣
Good point about interior room. New vehicles are bigger on paper but if everything inside is big it doesn't matter.
Today we don't have pickups. Cars with a small bed. If the bed is shorter than the cab, it's not a pickup.
It's not "perfect" It just does everything well.
Miss the Hell out of these simple old trucks!
Comanche is a lovely truck, I'm getting mine tomorrow.
tommy...by far,this is the best video you have done,EVER !!! I hope they continue letting you do video's all by yourself....I would watch more tfl vid's if this is how they come out...I think you should hold onto this pu,and maybe do some upgrades,like lockers,maybe a better tranny,.things that would add to its off road capabilities,yet still keep it more or less stock looking....I think you have done a great job with this truck...keep up the good work...
I didn’t see this episode till today loved it
I’ve got a ‘91 comanche and I don’t have a rpm gauge 😂, speedometer doesn’t work, temperature guage doesn’t work, ac doesn’t work, but MAN I LOVE IT!!
Great review Tommy, nailed it.
This video presentation is excellent. I always loved the Comanche, but never had one. (but am thinking about it)
Thanks Tommy for a really fun review. I'm 54, grew up with these truck and really loved them. My all time favorite back then was my 1983 J-10 stepside with 36's...sure miss those days.
So jealous that you all have this truck!!!
My Comanche was super comfortable on the road, sitting on stock suspension and tires. It just would glide over everything but also handled great, very flat thru the corners. The only driveability complaint would be the super over assisted power steering.
I just purchased a 1966 Jeep J2000 Gladiator. 2 year old video applied for me today as I wait for delivery of my vehicle. Waiting to have some "classic" fun.
Wow Tommy makes great videos! I Really enjoy his journalism style. He has really come into his own... Keep it up Tommy! Hello from Mexico 👍 🚐🏁
For a 30+ year old jeep comanche it's in a great condition.
@user-gj1wy4ej1x
3 жыл бұрын
It takes a lot of money to restore it if you wanna make it look like that $2,000 interior design replacement (aftermarket) $1,500 3.5 inch lift kit $900 wheels $2,250 paint job gloss finish Not to mention mechanics
I absolutely love it!
Beautiful truck! Want to get one later this year when I retire.
I'd love to have that thing. I would take it over any of the newer over priced midsized trucks.
Love this Series. Please continue!! Next up a Wagoneer?
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
5 жыл бұрын
Russ Freed I would like to see Wagoneer too!
Don't know how everyone else feels, but I would love to be able to buy a brand new 80's model year truck! I really miss my 1987 S-10
I fully agree that the Comanche is the best truck. I have an 88 Laredo, longbox, 4.0, Aw4, np231 drivetrain combo. I got factory buckets too. It’s got a 3 inch lift and 31s aftermarket front bumper with a winch and I’m putting a locker in it soon. I live the Comanche because of how simple and robust. I’m getting 21 mpg highway too!
It does not compromise!
I know this video came out in 2019 but dude 108,000 miles is pretty badass considering the year
Dude! Your right!😂😂😂 i aint arguing at all. I loved my commanche, probably the best truck i ever owned. I owned 2 in fact the 2.5 litre honcho and a longbed 87 4x4 and both were " the perfect truck in fact the 87 had over 1 million miles on it when i finally let it go and still ran perfect all original except for gaskets and maintenance. Now im looking for one again because i like 30 mpg highway from a 4x4 truck that can haul
As always, great video. And equally so, reliability is equal to the ratio of tech over mechanics. The more tech, the more inherently unreliable (or field-'un'fixable) something will be. T'was always thus. And thus t'will always be.
Thanks for stating why we kept my Comanche thats been in the family since 1986 but does not run and sold my wife's 95 Ranger that did when we needed to get rid of a vehicle
great review great truck!
that comanche looks awesome. great job
Solid video on a classic rig! Still wanting to grab one as a clean dd. AX15 swap, 31's and call it a day. Or go full camper mode...
Awesome and interesting video
Never knew about the un. Cool info.
What do you mean the glovebox "hinges the wrong way?" By hinging on the bottom, and creating a flat surface when opened all the way, it gives your passenger(s) a place to set their drinks/fries when you go to the drive-in. Many glovebox doors used to have circular indentures to indicate where you could place your drinks, and it would keep them from sliding around if you were driving (and not "power sliding" into the turns).