I saw an ad for the boxster when I was around 10 or 12. I began to have dreams about it. I loved how it looked. I never thought I'd get to own one. In december of 2021 I had a 718 delivered to my doorstep in a spec much nicer than young me ever thought I'd get to own. At 23 I get to drive my dream car! I *technically* could have "afforded" to buy the S or GTS -- but I realized I was simply falling down the rabbit hole that many car enthusiasts do, which is wanting more of a good thing. Return on investment as far as fun goes is not linear, and being able to have something i really love AND not have it be a financial burden is why buying a base boxster is a great fucking idea. No, you don't need the chrono package either. Just drive the damned thing and realize how great it feels. I took it down highway 1 here in california up and down the coast. Handled LIKE A DREAM! Anyway, to anyone reading this and wondering "do I need more", the answer is probably not.

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

You’re so right! Congratulations too!

in terms of the diminishing returns curve of the 718 vs 911, realistically this is true of most things in life,... if you want to buy good hi-fi equipment you will pay X.. if you want the absolute best hi-fi equipment that measures maybe at most 10% better than the mid-range stuff, you're going to pay 10X the price...

Superb video! Thanks for doing it, I've always said my 981 is a better car than my previous 997. Yes! I had a 911 and then bought a 981! ;-)

@maxt5034

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing. My 981 is far more fun than my old 911. Better looking too

@clu4u

Жыл бұрын

@@maxt5034981 Spyder here, had a 987 S for 15 years. Superb cars.

EVERY time I drive our 2006 Boxster S I get out thinking "THIS is a _great_ car". It absolutely sticks to the road, I've never driven a car with such balanced handling. You can always seem to feed in more turn angle and it tightens more and more without ever struggling. With Mich PS4S tires on public roads you cannot really push the limits. Sounds good with stock exhaust and is unassuming. This car is all about the driver's enjoyment who cares what other people think.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

This. 100%!

@MK-su6eg

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly driving convertible in Hawaii is a dream come through, no winter storage, 12 months of bliss, even the rain is warm, and the rainbows,myb2006 s was made for the islands.

I am fortunate to own both a 2015 Boxster GTS and a 2005 911 Carrera convertible. Much as I love driving the 911, the Boxster has WAY more fun factor in terms of handling/looks/performance. Recently, I went and drove a 2015 911 GTS convertible at my local dealer to see if it was worth trading in my older 911. Honestly, other than cosmetics and modern gadgets in the 2015 911 GTS, I did not see the need to trade and more importantly, still felt the Boxster was a prettier car and handled WAY better. Over the years I have been lucky to own and drive many nice cars and I can honestly say that the 2015 Boxster GTS (981), is the best bargain and most fun car I've ever owned. So Jay, I totally agree with your assessment. Best deal out there and I agree, Porsche keeps the Boxster purposely slower so it does not undermine the 911. It should be interesting to see how the Porsche 911 fans view the new 718 Boxster GTS 4.0. Car reviews have been very favourable. My local dealer has orders for a pile of them already. Time will tell. Thanks for making this wonderful video, really explained what many of us knew, now you proved it with math! Cheers

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Great comment here. Real world experience. Really glad you enjoyed it and thanks very much for joining in!

@kwleeusa

3 жыл бұрын

I have owned an air cooled 911 Carrera and I currently own the water cooled 911 Carrera, which I racetrack and autocross with the (Porsche Club of America, Golden Gate Region). At a certain driving skill set level, a good driver learns to use the rear weight of the 911 to your driving advantage by working the slip angle on turn entry/mid turn/turn exit. You both refer to the driving fun of a balanced mid engine Boxster...or any mid engine car...I cannot disagree, however, once you learn how to "rotate a 911 on turn exit", YOU WILL NEVER DRIVE ANYTHING BUT A 911 !!!

@RussellMiddleton

3 жыл бұрын

Curious how you feel about the steering in the 2015 Boxster, given your familiarity with the hydraulic rack in the older car? I've been tempted to upgrade my 987 Boxster to a 981, but the switch from hydraulic to electric steering (and consequent lack of feel) makes me hesitate.

@newflyfisher

3 жыл бұрын

@@RussellMiddleton Very good question. I thought the same but then drove a friends 2014 Boxster S and was blown away by the connectivity and handling "feel" the 981 possessed. My best recommendation is that if possible, drive one first and compare. IMHO Porsche really built an outstanding car which provides phenomenal handling, power-to-weight ratio, looks (styling) and sound (sport exhaust is sex for the ears). Good luck in your search and assessment.

@pmgsussex

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to raise the GTS 4.0 issue. Some UK reviews suggest on value terms a 911 Carrera killer unless you want the space of the rear seats. Ideal would be GTS 4 .0 for short pleasure drives and a 911 Carrera as a grand tourer

The first time I did a lane change in my Boxster and turned my head to check the lane to the right, I had a flashback to my years as a motorcyclist- no windows, no pillars, no blind spots. It's more like riding a bike than driving a hardtop automatic. So it's 95% of the fun of riding a motorcycle with about 5% of the danger.

@MTGTributes

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind me asking, what model Boxster did you have? After years of just having a motorcycle as transportation I'm starting to like the idea of having a rollcage

@mikemcmo

2 жыл бұрын

@@MTGTributes I have the 1999 Boxster base model, with the 2.5 L engine. Probably the slowest car Porsche has made since then, but fast enough for me. Can't believe I haven't gotten a ticket yet. I miss leaning into turns, but the slot-car handling pretty much makes up for it. Currently trying to improvise a ski rack for it so I can take it to go skiing.

After owning a base 986 (2003), a Boxster S 50 year anniversary edition (2004), a 997 C2S cabriolet (2006), a 997 C4S cab.(2007), a 997 C2S cab. (2012,end of production), and now a 718 Boxster S - the mid-engine cars are better; way more fun and engaging, more practical. Not quite as chic, perhaps, but I can’t see it when I’m driving it! They were all manuals, as is the 718 S I have now.

I purposefully search out old hard Tyers for my manual 986 Boxster s just so I can drift around every single street that has a corner

@TheMissKizmet

3 жыл бұрын

😂🙌🏼😂

I own two Boxster. 2001 Boxster S and a 2008 Boxster. I am in love with these cars. I am 76 years old and when I am driving these I feel like am 25. What fun!

@JAYREAD

Жыл бұрын

That’s just greedy, John! Haha!

@johnciummo3299

Жыл бұрын

Your videos are fantastic. Keep them going.😊

@JAYREAD

Жыл бұрын

@@johnciummo3299 That’s very nice of you! I will!

Owned both and loved both. What you're not mentioning is the resale value after you had so much fun :)

@rtg6355

11 ай бұрын

True, I special order my 05 Boxster when it was available. I bought it for fun not for resale value. I have a collection SS Sports Rolex watches and Hermes wife’s bag for resale value.

Ive recently bought a 07 987 boxster thats done 172kMiles. Still drives beautifully and is a head turner. I now find any excuse to drive.

I've had a silver 981 and now a white 718 Boxster and I don't see the point in spending all the extra money on a 911. Same interior and almost same performance for half the cost...I love Boxsters! I put the top down just about every day here in sunny Florida...

I’ve had 3 x 911 and two Boxsters, they are all great cars I do agree, they are as good as a 911 and the new ones in my opinion look better

I have owned both, the Boxter, is just so much more FUN, and it has more storage (trunk holds my golf Clubs) and it is cheaper

You make a great point. The "backseats" in the 911 are not worth twice the price of the boxster and the fact the engine is in the right place in the boxster is even better. As many have said the 911 Carrera is moving inexorably towards being a sporty luxury GT car and away from being an outright sportscar. Great video.

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This past July, Car and Driver named the 981 model one of the most important cars of the last 50 years. As an owner of a 981 Boxster S, I would agree.

@shivang15

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for telling us - maybe he should make a video on this model. I am a 981S -B owner as well and would only ever trade this car if I get a good Targa. Only better looking car in my opinion

@LuiS-xo7qw

3 жыл бұрын

Can you please share that article here?

I am a first time Porsche owner after lusting for a 911 for the last 40 yrs. I was fortunate in life to be able to fulfill my dream and searched for months for a base 991 Carrera in the colors and options I wanted. While searching however, I came across several 981 Cayman's which really intrigued me. The mid engine concept, flat six, 6MT and an interior every bit as luxurious as many 911's. After test driving the Cayman, my mind was made up. Sure I could have afforded the 991 but my 981 Cayman is everything I hoped my first Porsche would be. I couldn't be happier and it's looks are killer! Great analysis relative to value. It's what was informally going through my mind as well but you described it perfectly!

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Sounds like you proved it though!

I agree with you 100%. I own an old 986 with now close to a 1/4 mill on the clock. Service it myself and found it very easy to maintain and fairly cheap due to ebay and YT tutorials. Otherwise locally I can not afford parts and the proper P service. Using it as a daily driver as well as a fun car that all my kids also drive whenever they want, we keep it pretty much in mint condition. Fantastic car, cheap fun and never ever did a feeling of richness came so cheap. My fellow members of the P Club look pretty much down on me but I don't care. I can never afford their new 911's, but regarding the Boxster, every moment, the past 10 years made for memories of total pleasure and immense fun.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Alexander, you are the poster boy for this video! It’s so good to hear that you are enjoying your car!

Very well articulated Jay. Spot on!

That research has to deserve a like

I’ve owned a 996 GT3 and now own a 781 Boxster S. During PCA track days there were a couple of seasoned Cup car drivers in 781’s I couldn’t catch. Phenomenal car in capable hands.

I fully agree, I have a Boxster and has been a great experience with a fair and reasonable price.

@cvn6555

3 жыл бұрын

Ha. Porsche and "reasonable price" don't often occupy the same sentence.

Good review, I agree with your approach to calculating the fun/cost ratio.

i have Boxster 981...2.7....amazing e beautiful car!

@clu4u

3 жыл бұрын

I traded in a 987 3.2 for a 981 Spyder, I miss my older Porsche, “ A newer Porsche is a better car but a worse Porsche”. Words of wisdom, you can thank me later...😹

Couldn't agree with you more! Especially with the 718. Even the base models give the 911 a run for its money. Having driven multiple different 911's I finally landed on a 718 Boxster with PDK. What a little rocket! The way it feels beats anything I've ever tried before. So light and direct. You can say what you want about these new 4 cylinder engines but damn they're quick!

I love this video. Thank you for your analytical approach to Porsches. A refreshing view.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to watch it!

Cost aside. I owned a 2006 Boxster S and loved the car. It had incredible balance and cornered wonderfully but, I found myself wanting more power and more brakes. I have also driven a 911 Carrera 4S and I'm sorry, the 911 of the same era was a superior car, it gave me the additional power and brakes without sacrificing too much in the corners. I would love to drive the new 4.0 GTS that seems on paper at least to provide the best of all worlds. Cheers and thanks for the discussion.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! That’s the problem: one always wants the next Porsche! Must resist!

@stevecook706

3 жыл бұрын

Breaks are great for a weekend away. Brakes however make the difference if you want to slow up.

Hells bells!!! I’m a proud owner and driver of a 1990 944s2 Cabriolet (again, a proud owner) …I always felt that the 924/944 saved Porsche’s ass from the flames of “Edsel Hell”. I love my front engine - rear transmission 944. But….I’d be lying if I d isn’t admit to some 911-Envy. But the newer Boxsters? It is one gorgeous car….and I cannot imagine that it would not be a helluva lot of fun on the Kancamangus Highway! Great video….and your points are “spot on” brother!!

@JAYREAD

2 ай бұрын

Hey thanks a lot! I need to try a 944 one day. I really love them. ❤️

I have an 04 boxster 5 speed manual. I freakin love this car. Its my first porsche and the best 15k (6 years ago) i ever spent. Put the roof down, cruise the back roads of Pennsylvania and its a glorious day out with the wife. What more could you ask for?

Hello from across the pond! Great video! Just purchased my Porsche Boxster s and picking up this weekend. It is all about individual taste and I think you are spot on! Cheers!

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Thanks for watching! Enjoy the new car!

Super content! Thanks Jay. I entered the world of Porsche this year when I bought a 2004 986 2.7 as a 50th birthday gift to myself😁. Love the channel by the way👍

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy! Glad you enjoyed it! Congrats on the Boxster! I’ll be 50 in May. I need a gift to myself too!

@andyp6724

3 жыл бұрын

How about a cheaper 986 to keep the miles off the 996 and experience a bit of the mid engine fun💪. A reasonably sorted one could be had for around £6 - £7k here in the UK. I have the same dilemma as you next year regarding IMS. My local Porsche Indy suggests I wait for the clutch first😐 before replacing.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyp6724 Haha! Very tempting actually!

Weight and balance beats power on a track.

Nice video. My car is a 12 year old 911 and I love the way it looks and drives. I noticed my old 911 is still over a second quicker 0-60 than a new boxster. Either way I'm sure I would be very happy driving both cars. What a great choice to have.

I agree, the 981-718 Boxsters are way better looking than the same year 911's. Prior years are very comparable.

I have owned my 718 Boxster S since it first came out. One word. Incredible!!

Another great video. You deserve way more subscribers. Please keep doing what you do so well...

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! More coming!

Loving my new to me 987.1 5MT. Far better than I thought it would be actually. Great car

Bought my first Boxster in 1998! Have owned every generation since and have never yearned for anything else. Ive been driving my latest 718bs for the past 4 years and can honestly say this could be my last. Just couldn’t imagine wanting anything more from a car now. Perfection.

Wow that was good. I did a calculation and of the time it took me to watch this video and the enjoyment provided and came to 110% fun for time spent. Keep up the good work. Like your channel..

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Makes me happy that you enjoyed it! More to come!

This is one of the best videos we have watched about the Porsche Boxster on KZread. Great fact finding and commentary. Love this dudes accent.

@whipcashrecords

3 жыл бұрын

Very informative.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Really appreciate your lovely comment!

Sadly, the only people looking down on Porsche Boxsters are probably Porsche owners and the occasional sports car buff/fanatic. Most non-Porsche owners will look at the Boxster/Cayman and say "it's a Porsche, it must be fast and fun to drive..." and not know anything about the price differential between a 911 and a Boxster.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree!

Yes, I definitely like your math and comparisons. Boxters give you more bang for your buck

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richie!

A fun viewing Thank you, I have a 986 S 2002 6 speed and love its enjoyment and smile factor not to mention ability for ease of maintenance in a sport car, my mate loved it so much he just went out and grabbed a 987.2 Cayman PDK.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

These cars should be respected! They’re great!

I was in the fortunate position to buy a Porsche this year and began searching for a 991 as I had always aspired to own a 911. I had a budget of 45k to begin my search. I wanted a particular colour combo which was proving elusive. I drove a couple of 991’s, amazing but I couldn’t agree a price with the dealer (they wanted my to finance the car). During my search I spotted a 981S boxster (in the correct colour/spec I was after) at a respect used Porsche dealer in Hertfordshire. It was close buy so out of curiosity I went to see and drive it. I’m so glad I did. The 991 was amazing but I was struggling to justify if it was worth the extra 15k by comparison! Anyway, I bought it and am happy that I did.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Love it. Great cars!

Great article re power/weight ratio and cost as basis to conclude 718 is essentially equal to 911 at a much better price. I agree but the bigger point IMO is that the 718 drives like a purist’s sports car (lightweight, tossable, direct steering, linear power that is strong yet still able to be dominated by the driver) whereas... the 911 today has become a luxury car that drives like one (heavy, number steering, digital everything, and turbo power that doesn’t feel as rewarding or playful). I admit that the 911 has the 718 beat at the aggressiveness of the rear end; the 718 rear end, except maybe the GT4, is too feminine and soft IMO, even in GTS form. Re the feel again, in the 718, I am referencing a 987.2 Boxster S Black (or Cayman R) PDK (330HP 3.4 NA) or 982 Boxster GTS PDK (400 HP 3.8 NA) VS. a new 992 911 S (450 HP 3.0 turbo). To be fair, I have not driven a 992 GT3 or GTS, or any 992 in Targa or Cab, and I believe the open air experience is a an important aspect of the 2-seater roadster appeal for me. I drove the 911 992 S 3.0 (non cab) back to back with the 718 982 GTS 4.0 (cab) today. So subjectively, there is no comparison, the 718 looked and felt like it was as pure and good as my 987.2 3.4, and the engine felt more exotic and strong to boot, but nowhere near $60K better than my trade value to justify the upgrade. It felt like going from a 9 to a 10 for the new one. The new 911 on the other hand felt sterile and like a video game controller. This is for a person that loves road feel and drives on the road at 9/10s for the couple days per week I take a sports car out.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Great comment! Thank you for posting! Real world experience!

Thanks for the video. I do own 05-911 Convertable and I never did understand the nonsense around boxsters. Mid Engine is always going to be better than rear engine but I simply like the 911 look over the boxsters of old. For the past 10 years now the boxster look just keeps on getting better and with it's superior handling characteristics unfortunately for some it will no longer be the cheaper version of the Porsche.

I love my purchased new 2014 981 Porsche. I bought it exclusively, to cruise. I will not part with it ever. Glad I got the twin sport tailpipes which I think far more attractive. Also, the sound of the car couldn't be more perfect. The 911 is terrific but for the fun, attractiveness and being on the Open road bang for the dollar I will keep my 981. Purists can say Boxter & Cayman's are a poor man's Porsche all they want. It falls on deaf ears. Come to think of it, it is totally silly.

I like my 718 Boxster S. 242 laps on Ring, NO Crashes. Brand New Car on Ring. "Run In" according to recommendation. yes some slow cautious laps on Ring, keeping it bellow 4,000 rpm until Run In. Terrific balance, better than my 2020 BMW M2 Comp, 280 laps on Ring.

Resale value of the 911 seems to be better than the Boxster or Cayman. I own a 2015 981 Cayman S and I love it. But, it was $87k when new and I have to admit that is just too much money. The interior is nice but really not anything special for that kind of money. I have the 14-way heated and cooled memory seats but no fancy leather for my $87k. The sales of the 718 flat 4 turbos are just not keeping up. I have no doubt that the only reason Porsche have brought back the flat six in the GTS , GT4 and Spyder is because of lagging sales and especially the C8 Corvette. I know I won't be popular with this statement, but that C8 is a lot of car and a well optioned one can be configured easily for less than my 981 CS.

Great number crunching. I like the way you looked at this. I had a 997 C4 and felt the 4 wheel drive helped make up for the poor weight distribution of a 911. I spent gobs of money on it to make it a track performer and had a great time. A freak garage fire destroyed the car and I am looking for a replacement. I think a GT4 is the way to go and this video helps make that point now that I know how much I like track days. Thanks!

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped. I’d love a GT4. Incredible car. Good luck!

i bought a second hand 2003 996TT for a great price, low low miles. Did an ECU upgrade and was pushing 500HP with 0-60 times approaching the 3s. We went on a group mountain cruise in North Georgia and to be honest I could not keep up with the guy in the Boxster without scaring the hell out of myself, while he confidently took the twisties. The 996 is gone but I am looking seriously at a Boxster now.

@JAYREAD

9 ай бұрын

They’re great cars! Mind you, a 996TT with 500bhp! Woo!

Just bought my first Porsche, ‘18 2.5 S and I absolutely love it. It’s not going to sit in the garage and I’m using it for my daily driver and hope I’ll be able to brag about how many kms I’ve racked up 😊

I have had a 986S, then the Anniversary Boxster bought new in 2004 kept for 15 years and last the 987.2 standard 2.9 with the PDK gearbox. The latter car with the PDK was almost identical in performance as the 986Smanual. Great cars all of them. A good extended warranty is advisable for peace of mind

I was a BMW guy until my incredible wife gave me a 2-day Porsche Sport Driving School (now Porsche Track Experience) for Christmas a few years ago. We drove everything from a base Boxster to a GT4 (amazing), and a 911 Turbo S (also amazing) on the track at Barber Motorsports Park. I immediately came home and sold the M3. Being retired and having (according to her) too many other toys, I was very conscious of the fun/cost ratio. I'm also that guy who lays awake at night worrying about "what if" and wanted to avoid the IMS/RMS/bore scoring issues and settled on a 987.2 S with a 6-speed manual. It took months to find a clean example with reasonable miles and complete service records, but it was well worth the effort. It's my daily driver when I'm not on 2 wheels and is absolutely the most satisfying car I've owned in my 53 years of driving. That said, I must admit to still longing for an air-cooled 911.

Brilliant analysis. My gut feeling always told me the 718 is a 911 killer.

@Bambotb

3 жыл бұрын

Except you can't take 2 friends for a ride

absolute sense....I have driven a few 911's and a few Boxters and I am sold on the Boxter anyway. It is so well balanced and fun to drive...the 991 Boxter with the 6 cylinder is the ultimate driver's car.

I have a 2010 cayman. I put it on Michelin PS4S tyres this year. Best thing I did. It's an awesome package.

And that's why I have a boxster! Thanks!

I’m a fan of the Boxster and Cayman but the “911 tax” is the only tax I’m happy to pay.

@Th3_0_h8

3 жыл бұрын

911 tax?

@dodgehemi5045

3 жыл бұрын

No tax on boxster s. Black, red, red top manual $34k 2013 40k miles, no pasm but extended leather and two tone 18 way seats

@dodgehemi5045

3 жыл бұрын

991s conv $70k under 50k miles. $34k for Boxster S similar options You forget extra gas extra insurance extra premium on parts

@dodgehemi5045

3 жыл бұрын

13 $34,000 boxster s won't depreciate much if you driving on weekends

@dodgehemi5045

3 жыл бұрын

2012 991.1s cab Above $55k is best deal, +$5k each year newer. 13 14 15. 991s frenzy on pre-owned market right now drove the price up five grand in 2020 basically

Awsome big man cheers for the info 👍🏾🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Any time! Glad you enjoyed it!

Well this was fricken’fabulous, thanks! 😁🙌🏼😁 My car Bax, he’s a 981S and I got him specifically for his beautiful mid, and HELLYEAH I’m glad I did, I’ve never gelled so well with a machine; his balance and handling are phenomenal, and still enthral me after four years together this month 🥳🥰🙌🏼😁👌🏼 I look forward to watching more of your videos this one was ace 😘😁

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Great post!

It came out in 1996 but the show car came out a few years before that 92 or 93 and that car was an absolute beauty. I remember being a little disappointed with the production car because it wasn't quite as refined. Love these vehicles and plan to get either the Boxster or Cayman in the next few years.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that’s right. 1993. Here’s a video (taken from @Midwest Exotics channel - thank you) of the real thing at the Porsche museum. Quite a thing, I reckon. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKVlpaWtqcXen7Q.html

I'm sold. Great video

@Theclassiccarnut

Ай бұрын

Picking one up this week:)

Great video. Love the defence of one of the most hated and underrated sportscars out there. You have knowledge and form. 💙 Please get Yourself a good microphone/ a bit of Audio touchup because this can be absolute gold. 💙

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, I think I will. My sound needs to improve, you’re right.

@WetSouls

3 жыл бұрын

@@JAYREAD just seen the newer vid. Loving the content. Defensor Boxter 💙

Great video...and some very sobering numbers. I would have gone for a Boxster for all of your reasons but I needed that 911 back seat. Not for people but for stuff and the occasional cat and/or dog. If I had gone for the Boxster, it means I would have driven less because I do use the back seat area a lot.

@gellotion

3 жыл бұрын

I went with a sub $5,000 usd boxster for my summer daily driver, and a sub $1,000 4WD Jeep Wrangler tj for my winter daily/dogs and stuff "backseat" car.

I have never taken the prices into account. Re the standard range the Boxster / Cayman are simply the better cars because of its engine placement (and the dynamic advantages that come from that as well as packaging benefits: 2 boots) and its bigger wheelbase (they have inherently better stability). These are facts. The other fact that they are cheaper it is just the icing on the cake. A win win. The 911 is only to be considered over a Boxster / Cayman if you like to show up, aesthetically prefer it, can make use of 2 small rear seats or enjoy a flake of drift or any combination of those.

Spot on.... bought my 2014 Boxster S used. Great fun car. Wish I could drive it all year long but living in Alaska is the issue.

I like that breakdown. This is something I been trying to figure out for a variety of cars. Best bang for the buck, track toy.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re interested in ‘bang for buck’, watch this! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJtnr6uMdZm2iM4.html

Very well said and very true! 👍🏼

I got my first Porsche a 2002 Boxster 5 spd in June. I drive it every single day and its goin strong! Done fuel pump and all 4 brakes/rotors so far

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your car!

Great vid, very well put 2gether, what a Great way 2 compare the 2 cars 👍🏻😊

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Stick around! More coming!

@kayned47

2 жыл бұрын

@@JAYREAD sweet, I look 4ward 2 seein ur nxt vids, I've just subscribed, I like the fact that u take the time 2 reply 2 ur comments, thanx, have a great day 👍🏻😋

really well done. thank you

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure. Thank you for watching!

I'm fortunate to have a '14 Boxster 6-speed and a '21 C8 HTC. The Porsche is easier to drive, probably due to its smaller size, but I don't think most people know what it is when I'm out driving it (other than "some sports car", possibly because it's gray) whereas the red Vette constantly gets compliments and thumbs up. But I love both.

@JAYREAD

Жыл бұрын

Very fortunate, I would say! 👍

Totaly agree. Owner of a 987, amazing car for that price. I would never spend more for a car, because it's simply perfect for that cost

Great vid 👍🏼

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Love this analysis - sneaky lol

Love your vids fella. 👍🏻

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

I’m really happy to hear that! Thank you for watching!

I’ve owned Porsche’s since my ‘69 - 911T and totally agree with your comparison (even though I’ve never owned a Boxster/Cayman). I would also be interested in a comparison of maintenance costs between the models.

@goldpony10

Жыл бұрын

they are almost identical

Great vid! :)

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel.

Like we didn’t know everything in this video.... But, there is good vibe to this

@kbrkr

3 жыл бұрын

Welp, I wasn't familiar with the power to weight and value figures...so there's that.

love to hear the power-to-weight (bhp/ton) ratio for 718 is higher than that of the 911. More fun for less money.

Really interesting approach Jay - you are fearless! I would suggest that the 914 is also part of the Boxster’s lineage. We have both a ‘00 986 Boxster & and a modified ‘90 911 - 964 in our family. We bought the 964 in 2010 and the 986 in 2018. Even with the time differential, the 964 was 3x the cost of the 986 - so certainly your hypothesis is spot on in terms of bang for the buck. Both are phenomenal cars to drive! That being said, the driving experience is very different. In comparison, I would characterize the Boxster as offering more of a leisure driving experience and the (modified) 964 as offering more of a driver’s car experience. The Boxster is plenty quick (even with the base 2.5l engine), it is stable in turns and driving in spring or fall with the top down is magical. In the 964, you sit more upright, so, by definition you feel more connected to the road. Admittedly, with the help of modifications, the 964’s steering, acceleration, cornering and gearing are far more responsible - truly a driver’s car. Having both is a wonderful treat! My personal take is that the driving experience of a Porsche is what it’s all about. I think an interesting comparison would be the driving experience of a Boxster & 911 of the same model year.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Ha yes! I knew when I made that one that it would stir debate! Good debate though. Great post, David. Love the analysis and I think you are spot on. One must enjoy as many Porsches as one can. There is no right answer here just a wonderful dilemma!

I drove a 986 for 6 years, a truly amazing, smooth, and fun car at the right price (Bought it for $$21,000 and sold it for $16,000 USD after 6 years). Never had any mechanical problem, never fixed the IMS issue (no problems), and I performed all my oil changes and brake jobs. An amazing car with extremely smooth clutch. I now own a 30 year old 944 (another car that helped save Porsche financially).

This guy nailed it. My Boxster is definitely the best $4,600 I've ever spent 👊

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

In total agreement. I have been accused "sacrilege" for saying the same. The Boxster is more confortable top down, specially in colder days, than the 911 (986 S and 996 c4) and more practical due to the smaller size, and, in my case, a not so low suspension.

Smart thinking! Clever equations 🤓

my daughter loves hers … thank you for sharing

@JAYREAD

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Merry Christmas!

Love your video's Jay , I owned a 911sc around 10 years ago , should never have sold . A Boxster in now on my radar , either 986 or 987 , I do like the early runny egg headlights 😁

@JAYREAD

Жыл бұрын

Then watch my Instagram. There might be one available shortly!

I speak from a life time of owning most makes of sports cars including Ferraris, Lambos, Astons and most makes of Japanese performance cars. Now in my late 70’s and not as wealthy as my younger years, I can honestly say that the Porsche Boxster is a true sports car and best value you can find. He noise, the handling, the quality are second to none. They have tremendous character and that is important. I run a 986 Boxster S with its original factory fit valved sports exhaust. Ok it’s not as quick as some of the 700 bhp cars I have owned but where can you use that sort of power now days on our crowded roads?

@JAYREAD

2 ай бұрын

Hear hear!

I order my 2019 718 as my first Porsche because I wanted mid engine and only need 2 seats. I find the frunk and trunk very usable. The 911 is a great car but does not pull me in like the Boxster. Great review Jay

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Max.

Brilliant reasoning, love it. Thanks for this..

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, Huw! Thanks for watching!

Only one comp but I had the opposite, seat of pants vice analytical, experience. I had been driving my '03 Boxster S for a while and thought it must be pretty close to a 911 as well. Then I drove my son's '02 911 Cab and pretty much instantly convinced the 911 still has it beat! The 911 seemed to have more power, put it down better, and you could feel the weight transfer more. Still love the Box but no longer think of it as a 9elfer better.

Brilliant!!

@JAYREAD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have my moments!

Jay, thanks for the fun watch. What other metrics did you consider for fun factor? I’m wondering if added metrics like acceleration or skid pad also produce similar results.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

I did think of a few but the problem is that you’ve got to find one that is easily available to find or calculate. BHP/tonne is the easiest and so I went with that. There are a lot of cars to cover with such an analysis as you can imagine!

Great point!

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Bought a 986 S model, loved it so much had engine rebuilt by Raby Enterprises. Now a modified 3.8 making 300+ hp, a fairly serious sports car. Lots of fun. Top down always!

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

How much did that engine work cost, Scott? Sounds great!

@64desertsurfer

3 жыл бұрын

@@JAYREAD About $20K; Stage II (forged components, balanced) with IMS solution, new clutch, alternator, starter, upgraded aluminum radiators, exhaust, etc. Engineered for better power below 4000 rpm. 10K miles on new motor, perfect so far. Plans for new wheels/ suspension components, intake/tune this spring. Aim is to end up with a 986 “GTS”.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Fabulous!

I collected my brand new 718 a few months ago, delivers joy and fun every drive. Enjoyed your video Jay.

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Monica. I’m jealous. I want one too!

@Monica121166

3 жыл бұрын

One other thing, Jay. Am homeless presently and it’s amazing what I was able to pack into my little car for the next few weeks/months along with a cocker spaniel. Clever storage design .

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

Monica! You are living in your Boxster?! Tell me you are not sleeping in it please!

@Monica121166

3 жыл бұрын

@@JAYREAD not yet!

@JAYREAD

3 жыл бұрын

YIKES! This is commitment to the brand, I must say!

I own a 986 2.5 and a 996 3.4 The engine in the 996 is fantastic but the Boxster is so much more fun to drive. The 996 feels like a GT car where as the Boxster feels like a sports car, light, nimble and eager to change direction. At an event with the Porsche club a 991 turbo parked behind my Boxster. I said to the owner: Nice car. He responded, yes it's quick - but heavy - your's is a sports car. I didn't quite get it then but I do now! And for people discarding the 2.5 because of its engine: It's quick enough to have a lot of fun - you just have to rev it more than with a bigger displacement engine.

@olivedrab

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard so many good things about the 2.5 engine, so much so that I’m altering my search from a late 986 3.2 S to an early 2.5. Why? I hear because the gear ratios are shorter, having you work through your gears more, as well as it having a mechanical throttle vs an electrical wire one, giving you an overall better visceral experience. Even though on paper it has 20% less power than an S. Are you able to speak on the 986 2.5 vs 2.7 vs 3.2 at all? Thanks!!

That was fun, but honestly of the more recent variants if you have a 981 GTS or 718 GTS 4L, they are way better than a 991.2 base or S or 992 base or S. Nimble, agile and right sized for most roads - much more fun on back roads. The NA Caymans and Boxsters are some the best cars made by Porsche outside the specialist GT division cars. I have owned a lot of Porsche sports cars but I have only kept 2 - a 981 GTS with PTV, SC, PASM, PSE etc and a 991.2 GT3 RS. I don't think many Porsche owners that have history with the brand would denigrate the Cayman or the Boxster, at least not these days 😀

'16 Cayman GTS is my best Porsche ever. My wife drives a '10 pdk Boxster 987. Simply great cars.. We all know why the GT3 motor isn't available in the GT4... that would signal the end of the 911