Showdown - 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera (991) vs. 2013 Porsche Boxster S - CAR and DRIVER
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The Porsche Boxster S has always been considered the poor man's Porsche, though the latest iteration gives its big brother, the 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera (991), a run for its money on the latest episode of Car and Driver: Abroad.
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These cars are not made for the 1/4 mile. You can get faster cars cheaper. But if the point is to have fun, the Boxster is hard to beat. I've owned a ton of cars in my life, but my last 2 summer cars have been Boxster and Boxster S. They give you more smiles per gallon than anything else, and they're very reliable. They're not the loudest, fastest, or most boldly styled, but when you grow up you really don't care what others think.
@charleslu7044
9 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who makes sense...
@carson4632
7 жыл бұрын
ClimbnFish my first time riding in a boxer u could not stop smiling. It sounds beautiful and pushes you back in your seat
@juandef4115
7 жыл бұрын
ClimbnFish for me, its the mk1 early boxter s. people forget the Porsche Boxster is a car made for fun ajd lively driving. not wannabe racing drivers with no talent. i agree with you. for me the best road going cars are The original mk1 boxster S, the 914 Porsche and the Honda Del Sol VTi or SiR
@danhalfhill9169
5 жыл бұрын
You speak da truth!
@smokeytom24
5 жыл бұрын
Boxster S 981 with PDK/Chrono does 0-60 4.2 secs, 0-100 10.4 secs and 1/4 mile in 12.7 secs @ 111mph. Seeing as this car was produced in 2012, that seems pretty fast to me. Faster than an M3 at the same time.
Both are great cars. But having driven many 911s, Boxsters and Caymans, the Boxster is what the 911 USED to be-light and nimble and plenty fast, just what a sports car SHOULD be. Over the years, the 911 has gotten longer, heavier and more bloated and is basically now a GT car. Still a great car, just not as much fun to drive as the Boxster (or Cayman). That’s why I chose a 981 Boxster S. Plus, the roof down experience is awesome!
I have an older 911 and I just bought my third Boxster S. A true convertible sports car with balanced handling and great acceleration. Yes, it's cheaper than a 911, 911S, Turbo or Turbo S....but here in the USA we have a speed limit in most places. The Boxster S does 170 mph, isn't that fast enough to save $30,000? The 911 is a GREAT car, but in my opinion, the Boxster S is the best Porsche bag for the buck.
@tropicalsnow
4 жыл бұрын
u no v
Loved that last line "The King isn't quite dead, but the Prince is getting very, very close!"
Love your Reviews :) Cinematography, the background Music, Cam angles & the script.... - Beautiful work ! Thanks :)
Car and Driver thanks for giving us these videos ! beautifully done !
The production on these videos is superb! And the content too, haha. Great job!
super production quality! thanks!
Good comparison. There’s one area that you overlooked, which really allows Porsche to keep the new Boxster S in check-It’s the gearing. If one could re-gear the final drive/trans of the 981 Boxster S, to match, gear for gear the 911 both 997 and 991 models, the result would be different That said, both are thrilling cars to drive
Awesome camera angle from outside. Can see the track layout as well as cabin and driver movement. Nice work!
this video just made my day, fantastic! absolutely fantastic!
This host is awesome, and the camera angles like at 5:05 are amazing, great work CARandDRIVER!
This is so sick! And the weirdest thing is that I Think the Boxster looks a lot better actually!!
Awesome, awesome reviews guys. Really good job!
This video is awesome, great job guys!
good stuff CARandDriver!! really well done! greetings from Italy
This video was beautifully done. And what a fantastic looking drag strip. Good work.
Fantastic video - I always wondered what if and you delivered! -MY hat is off to you Gents!
great video and great review!
Very nice video. Thank you for doing this.
wonderful wonderful review mate!!!
Great video quality!! Thumbs up!!
Beautiful footage!
Great review great video love you guys
I'll bet the track time of the Cayman would have been better. Porsche has spaced their models out pretty well. But for a $30k difference I'll take the Boxster every time. Especially when a 911 Cabriolet is closer to $50k more.
solid video. enjoyed every second.
Great episode!
Great fun. Thanks Jethro and Mark. Great fun. :-)
Great comparison, great footage!
IMO I think porsche did a fantastic job on the latest 981 boxster/caymans and this is coming from a 991 owner who has had every previous 911 since the 80's. But, their is something about a 911 that makes you feel the heritage and connection from driving even the latest 991s that is indescribable, and if you've had previous 911s you would understand. The 911s are irreplaceable and people who consider a boxster over a 911 don't get that. I would drive both before buying and go with your hearts desire, but us 911 guys only have one true choice and their is no substitute!
@jimhimesjr
7 жыл бұрын
2B055 I did just that about a year ago. Having never owned a Porsche before. Test drove a 981 Cayman S, a few 997's and a 991.1 Carrera S. All were great cars, bought the 991 Carrera S. Like you said the 911 just felt different which surprised me as going into it I had my heart set on the Cayman.
Love the video, and the reviewer, great job
Finally a worthy competitor for a 911...another Porsche! There is no substitute.
This was a great film - good job guys!
always imagined what would a Cayman Turbo S be like
Awesome review and comparison.
Fantastic film, and a great presenter. Keep this fellow on staff.
Any time I see these track comparisons where the results are a few seconds or fraction of a second in some cases, I don't understand why more people don't make a point about the driver's skills. Especially when it is different drivers. They should do every tract test a minimum of 3 times and probably 10 to find the truth. This driver may be skilled but he can make mistakes or just alter his corners different and it throws the whole test off.
@epicned3837
8 жыл бұрын
Scientifically, you have a good point. You must always limit your variables when testing anything out. This technically wouldn't be a good test because there is more than one variable.
@vulpine321
4 жыл бұрын
i found his comment about the track being busy was amusing......it was mostly wide fast corners and long straights.....giving the porsche 911 the advantage. that being said, its the least performing 911 and the top of the range boxter... i always feel these tests basically make the results agree with the stats of the cars, and dont make waves.
@vulpine321
4 жыл бұрын
maybe the guy shouldnt have a chat to the camera while he is trying to drag race the 911 also lol
Nice video love your channel XDD
Sweet video Car and driver
The boxster hasn't been considered the poor mans porsche since the 986 came out originally...starting with this line is very old hat now!
@silverarrowslk
10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. An outdated statement
Cool review m8s, that track in Wales looks like fun
Fantastic video.
Great video, CARRERA!
thanks again C&D.I from brazil and watch a lot videos!FAN
Great video
Another great video Jethro!! Keep'm comin'! This new boxster is simply stunning to look at and.... A hell of a drive as well!! Sorry 911, bur i'd go for baby Porsche...
One of the best reviews
Great video. New sub
I have a 2003 Boxster S, and it is a stunning car. The IMS bearings once replaced were the only concern. Bang for your buck, great car.
Awesome 1080p Vid! Friendly Cam View ^ ^(i felt myself in that Porscheee) Cool Thnx
FINALLY a car show that does NOT use music the whole video long...
That's great news!!! I just can't wait...
i love car and driver! best car show
Just curious what are you using as the chase car?
Just so you know -- this video was very well done.
Excellent video, describing the differences for us average car owners. One thing that frustrates me, (as well as the crew of that famous Car TV show), is that Porsche seems to hold back on the potential of the Boxster. I wonder what they could come up with if they weren't constrained by product line profitability restrictions
I have been watching car views from top gear, motor trend and motorweek etc, I have to say this is one of the best ever comparision of Porsche mid engine and rear engine cars. If they compared Porsche cayman S vs Porsche 911 base that would have been the best video ever.
I drive a 997.2 CSC and love it. While it was being detailed, Porsche gave me a PDK Boxter S loaner. The Boxter S is a GREAT car. The handling is amazing. You feel like the car is litterally rotating around your waist. It simply lacks enough power to adequately compete with the 911. But the reality is that it is a different car. It behaves in a very different way. While I still prefer the 911's tail happy handling. Both will put a big smile on your face! Porsche, there is no substitute!
Its the wrong comparison too, try the cayman!
@t1rjb1
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The extra hp and rigidity of the Cayman S just might beat the 911.
@bryanbautista4939
4 жыл бұрын
Third party performance shops have already tuned Cayman S to surpass 911 times. Its just a matter of time before the king is dethroned.
@webbwart
3 жыл бұрын
Bryan Bautista I’ve uptuned my 2014 cayman S to include software upgrade, exhaust, plenum and throttle cable to about 380 hp - it’s close to a 911 @400 hp - but it’s not there
I absolutely LOVE the sound the 911 makes 8:35 (turn up your speakers!!!)
How do you find the Boxster's lift-off oversteer compared to the 911's?
I love this! Way better than top gear, the driver seems to be a really skilled driver, with all those perfect downshifts I hear. Would watch this if on television!
The quality of the filming and editing of your videos are excellent! If there's ever an opening in the production team please get in contact, would be a dream job! :)
i loved this comparison! next to the boxter vs cayman, or cayman vs 911
11:50 he said that no matter what "the results were still the same" with the 911 beating the Boxster, but at least twice I saw the Boxster hit a lower time.
Good stuff. Love my Carrera S.
Shouldn't this be a comparison between the Cayman S and the 911 Carrera?
@smokeytom24
5 жыл бұрын
No, not really. The Cayman is exactly the same as the Boxster but with a hard top added - whilst the 911 is the opposite, originally derived as a hard top, and so the 911 convertible had to be strengthened for rigidity. The Cayman and Boxster are exactly the same - I've driven both Boxster & Cayman 981s many times. Anyone who says there are differences are nit picking. If anything, the comparison should have been between a convertible 911 and the Boxster which would have added weight to the 911 and therefore put the Boxster ahead (or certainly evened up) in performance and handling terms.
@jensenlawrence412
5 жыл бұрын
An OtherGoogUser well being as the cayman s has 10 more horsepower than the Boxster s and is more rigid, because it is not a convertible I wouldn’t say they are the same, close but definitely not “exactly the same”
@lucasclift3196
5 жыл бұрын
@@jensenlawrence412 Hit it on the nose there!! Porsche's best sports car appears to be the 718 all day! I by no means hate 911's but God they've gotten gigantic after the 997's and unless you have a gt car you are buying a luxury grand touring car which I'm sure is what the market wants.
@ESKATEUK
3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasclift3196 try saying that to the incredible lap times they put in. Yes it’s luxurious, and getting more luxurious with each iteration. But they are still very fast, and very fun around the track.
"Poor man's porsche" lol omg . Haters will always find something wrong . The people saying this most likley can't even afford a boxter . I would buy the boxter and so would many other people who can own 911's and other cars . Please take a seat with the poor man talk . Your poor for even thinking in that mind frame . Why can't I buy this because I like it ?
Why did you race the boxster with the roof down? Wouldn't that affect the drag on the car slowing it down?
Great video. Chris Harris and Jethro Bovingdon, those two are the best car journalists I think.
12:35 The ROAR of the 911 brings jitters down my spine!
eh? it looks like the boxster DID beat the 911 on a couple of drag runs. 11:48 shows 13.271s vs 13.444s. and 11:56 shows 13.105s vs 13.211s
@kylemartin6448
5 жыл бұрын
Dr Chen the pdk boxster would go faster
You all are aware the Carrera or just 911 is the base model. The Boxter is the S model, one year newer. It should have more HP than a standard Boxter but it still wasn't enough to trounce a base 911. Porsche does that on purpose.
@ViceStan
8 жыл бұрын
+aguilpa1 There is the reason why the same exact engine in the BoxsterS makes less power, and I will repeat it again, the SAME ENGINE. Software restrictions give the 911 an advantage, because lets face it, the 911 can't be out performed by its smaller, cheaper sibling.
@Curveball
6 жыл бұрын
Stan Malikov, until the Boxster/Cayman owner takes their car to a tuner.
Any news on when you may test drive the new 991 turbo?
As for the whole RR/MR debate, consider the following 17 cars, all from Porsche: 360, 550, 718, 787, 804, 904, 906, 907, 908, 909, 910, 917, 936, 956, 962, WSC-95 and the 9R6. All those cars have two things in common: 1. They were all race cars designed to compete for Porsche at the highest levels of racing. 2. They were all mid-engine, rear-wheel drive cars. Porsche has offered three RR cars for factory racing, but none has represented Porsche since the late 70's.
You guys should put more of those cards in the magazines. I find them funny and the action shot is good. I have the card pinned on my wall along with Road & Tracks too :P Basically asking you to make more so I can place them on my wall.
What's the name of the music from 1:45 to 2:45 please ?
The 981S from this video is currently for sale... I was tempted until I watched this again .. 😂🤦🏼♂️🏁
I love this music. Where can I find it?
Nice episode I would definitely buy the boxster!
I really enjoyed this episode, fantastic comparison and perfect video! It would be nice to see a test of the Koenigsegg Agera R on a proper racetrack ( what about Silverstone?) or the new Viper or.... I'll stop here, too many sick ideas :-)
Song at 2:25? I'd really like to know the name of it please!
Good work that man! It'll be interesting to see how the new Cayman compares to the 991 911. I remember watching Jethro over on Driver's Republic a couple of years ago and always enjoyed his style. Now that Harris is a little more mainstream perhaps Bovingdon will emerge as an underground cult favourite?
what's the song named? from minute 2
Lovely review, absolutely lovely, want to see, Boxter S(with PDK and sportchrono) and Carrera(with pdk and sportchrono) and The Old 997 Turbo with Automatic with SportChrono(TipTronic S) and the new one with PDK and see the difference would be awesome!!!!!
Both great cars, but honestlly wih the Boxster being a roadster, this test should have been Cayman S vs 911 - the hard top variant incidentally having 10bhp more than the Boxster. Also, I believe the suspension of the 911 is vastly different, and ultimately superior, to the 981 cars. This makes sense, as the 911 is the halo Porsche and they have to keep that brand hierarchy in place. In any case, they're all great - 911, Cayman, Boxster, it just depends which one you prefer, can afford and so on.
good video
so with 1 would you buy ? carrera or boxer and manual really ?
good vid
I've seen a Cayman Black next to a new 981 Boxster and the speed difference is massive. I would not expect the Black -> R to make that level of a improvement.
mega maquinas. alta tech. iconicos ao extremo
Loved the video!!! I think the newly launched Cayman S with PDK and Sports Chrono package will take the 911 out both on the track and in the drag strip. Of course you can also option the 911 up but it would cost about $20 grand more.
Great episode and brilliant presenter! Chris Harris has some competition.
which is the better boxster, 987.2 or the 981?
Good Test and Vid - (a few repetitions about the weight and engines) never mind cheers ;)
What music did you use?
man that was a good review I liked him! The boxster used to be the black sheep of the family now it's my No1 porsche
good video i prefer the road tests over the track tests.
This is a great comparo. I still think that there's no way Porsche will ever let a same-year Boxster in any trim beat out a base Carrera. They will handicap the mid-engine platform forever so as to never overshadow the icon. It's because of this that the 981 and 991 share the same motor, but have a 25hp gap. This is also why there will sadly never be a Boxster or Cayman turbo or GT variant. That's too bad. I've spent a lot of time piloting both, and at the limit, I prefer the Boxster.
10:53 for the drag race