I switched from a Tesla Model Y to an Ioniq Limited, and I couldn’t be happier. It is really an incredible car. I did pay over MSRP, but got it in time to get the tax credit, and got more than I paid for the Y, so ended up ahead.

@alexanderdeburdegala4609

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for acknowledging that even though you paid over sticker you still ended up ahead because of trade value.

@danc1197

Жыл бұрын

Ford is contemplating dropping the dealer network and going to direct sells. Hopefully all others follow.

@Austin-cg7be

Жыл бұрын

@@danc1197 Laws are in place to protect the dealers Ford actually cant remove dealers they are threatening to do so to scare the dealers into cooperating they can however remove all pricing ability from the dealer.

Just some feedback on this video: the audio was SUPER low, so I had to really crank the volume about 50% higher than usual. And then get blasted every time an ad came on. Otherwise, great look at the car!

Even without the federal tax credit, this thing at 45k vs a Tesla Model Y at 63k minus 7.5k federal tax credit, I'd still take the Hyundai for the better quality, better design, better service. It's not even a difficult decision!

@TheAndrwwJohnson

Жыл бұрын

Tesla service and features are way beyond the Ionic. It's a great EV but if you can afford a Tesla there's nothing close.

@pilotarix

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAndrwwJohnson There is an awful lot close to Tesla. Bad workmanship, lousy paint, lots of beta testing, "big brother is watching you," and on and on... Tesla is a Hype, like Apple, and it works as well as Apple - they even have a similar "Guru." Tesla is a data company that serves the stock market and its shareholders. They do this by making and selling cars. While the making is terrible, aside from battery technology and half of the data stuff - the other half (FSD) is constantly promised but never delivered, the selling is excellent. But who really cares about the making? The customer follows the hype and get's a hip item that is flawed and crazy overpriced. However, he is totally delighted with that because he has been thoroughly brainwashed. Brainwashed by an army of social media content creators who appear to work undercover for Tesla. Don't get me wrong, I was close to buying a Tesla, but was lucky and able to flee from their reeducation camp. Tesla isn't the holy grail for EVs, and time will tell. The big dogs were late for the hunt but have now started running, and many hounds soon catch the hare.

@dece6170

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAndrwwJohnson what service and what features? Serious, anything that an iPad can't do? Service as in nonexistent 3 month out waits for simple issues (that arise within hours of ownership)? Incompetent Tesla service can't even properly align the wheels of the car let alone the panels that come misaligned from the factory. Also many proven stories from owners getting their car back with nothing but stains, broken trim pieces and original problem going unfixed. OH on top of all that no loaner cars or even Uber credit now for "luxury" car brand? LOL WHAT SERVICE?

Am I the only one having to crank my volume for TFL and no other channel?

@Dave_1960

Жыл бұрын

no

The issue is sourcing one at MSRP, most dealers want $15k over and still have 60 people in line waiting. I'm so ready for the car market to normalize again.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

yea braden/kaylie couldnt find one so jumped to polestar.

@jonS-42

Жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder where people get all that money from. I’d never ever ever pay 15k over sticker unless I had a large amount of expendable income

@Llama052

Жыл бұрын

@@jonS-42 I wonder that a lot actually, lot of people around me with cash to buy houses at insane rates and cars at any price. Always makes me feel like I'm missing something.

@carlmathews5778

Жыл бұрын

@@Llama052 Most of these people are coming from an older vehicle that they trade in and for the houses they were home owners. So they benefit from the hot market so they have disposable income lol. I tried my best to make it make sense cause it is insane what is happening

@RagingDork

Жыл бұрын

15k before with 7500 credit now +22k? lol

I love the look of this thing, it looks like a 1980s concept car.

Wanted one. Couldn’t find one. Most available were priced at $10k over MSRP. Found a Genesis GV60 Performance at MSRP plus $900 of accessories. The California Clean Air Rebate of $750 pushed it close to MSRP.

@poplaurentiu4148

Жыл бұрын

I can't wait for the sporty version Ioniq 5 N..

@JeffDeLamater

Жыл бұрын

Was interested in the GV60, but only available in 4 states. So not even an option for me. I wasn't going to pay crazy ADMs, so I got on a wait list for Ioniq5 with a dealer that was MSRP+900, and picked it up at the beginning of August.

@t1328

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great deal on the GV60 Performance. I don’t love the exterior of the GV60, but the interior is leagues ahead of the Ioniq 5s. I’ve considered trying to upgrade. But its still at $10k difference for me assuming I could get what I paid for the Ioniq 5 Limited.

My Ionic 5 is coming in at MSRP here in Canada and my dealer is giving me a great value on my 2019 KIA Soul EV trade, expected to be here in October!

I rode in one through Uber yesterday. The flow of power is extremely steady and the ride is very smooth. The interior is roomy, comfortable and attractive. It’s a very nice car

A feature I like is if you can open the doors with the door handle in the winter time. You know when things get all iced up freezing rain, or melt then freeze conditions. There is no way these door handles will work for this.

Ioniq 5 owner here. Couple corrections, AWD is not on "all the time". If you drive in "ECO" mode and don't have i-pedal engaged the front motor will disengage via a clutch to reduce drag and increase efficiency so the car is effectively RWD unless it detects slippage or needs to accelerate hard. The second thing is that the newer software has gotten rid of the nixie tube look for the radio, so your neighbour will be happy I guess. I think it looks cool.

I can’t wait to see the road-trip. That’s a trip I’d love to take.

Aww, you guys are buddies now, how sweet... But honestly, I prefer your relationship on TFL Talk where Roman whines and complains about how mean Tommy is to him. That's podcast magic! Keep 'em coming boys.

Disney to Disney sounds like a very cool road trip--at least to watch in a KZread video. Earlier this year there was a KZread collab with Aging Wheels and Technology Connections driving an Ioniq 5 from Chicago to Disneyland in FL. Although it's probably little over half the mileage of a Disney to Disney run, it turned out to be an easy trip with plenty of places to charge.

great video! love the 1 take format, you're right about the mark up 8 months ago, now it's below msrp with cars sitting in the lot in the states, unfortuantly in canada it;s the same with over 400+ in wait lists in every dealership! hope to get mine soon!

Good review, thank you. I’m taking delivery of mine today. Pretty excited. Suggestion, this would have been better if the car was detailed, the dirt was distracting.

Love the Snarf’s reference. I’m in CA now and miss them.

I flew to Bristol TN from Phoenix, AZ to save 6K on my 4XE. A good 2K back in 2 day.5 days for break in. Had a blast, and cost me maybe 1K for 3 days.

You have done a fantastic job in explaining this new Hundai 5. But what I love most is the cute little dancing gril on the dash. Thanks so very much...

The audio on this episode is super quiet! Still liking these buddy reviews.

Love the car! Love the matching shorts too!

One thing I haven't heard mentioned is some of the interior, including the old radio tubes, seems to have a retro 50's look. And somehow it fits. There was a lot of speculation of future things back then. But how would Korean designers even know about it? So interesting!

@JeffDeLamater

Жыл бұрын

Sadly an update earlier this year removed the nixie tube display for the radio. New layout isn't bad, but it is bland, utilitarian, and has no character, which causes it not fit at all with the car that is all about unique, quirky character.

Interesting to hear/ see Roman’s review compared to lightning roars trip. Disney to Disney sounds like fun!

This is better than a Tesla. Charges faster, easier support, better build quality, more features, etc.

@allentoyokawa9068

Жыл бұрын

This thing is trash, what are you talking about?

@mikerules666

Жыл бұрын

This vehicle , which has been reviewed and tested by every auto magazine on the planet earth and every one of them say that this is better than a Tesla in almost every way. Just because a Tesla costs as much as some single family houses doesn’t make it better.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

yea, just missing sc network. otherwise its a definite go to rec for anyone.

@InternetDude

Жыл бұрын

@@laloajuria4678 Superchargers will be open to all EVs by end of the year, zero reason to buy a POS Tesla at this point already.

@kevinbarry71

Жыл бұрын

Yes. And you also have the knowledge that you're not giving money to a psychopath

Ordered mine in March of 2022 and it got delivered in August of 2022. I am living in Germany and there’s no such thing as dealer markup. The only added fees are registration and delivery about 1100 Euro. Unbelievable how much the dealers differ from country to country.

@gailgyngell1108

Жыл бұрын

Gosh you’re lucky, we ordered ours in the UK in March 22 and the delivery date keeps getting moved forward by a month every time we call to ask when it will be! Started off sept-Nov 22 then dec22 then February 23 NOW we’ve been told March 2023! So fed up with waiting but we love the car so much that we keep hanging on for it rather than going for something else.

Fairly short overhangs should be good in moab.

Awesome review 🎉

Part of your reviews should include a real world availability segment. It should include how many are on the market and where they are actually priced. It would be a good service for the viewer.

Love the buddy reviews

Black is my favorite color on ioniq 5

We got our Limited AWD here in North Georgia in February, our OTD was $66k, for reference. It was either that or we probably still would not have one, so we bit the bullet.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

damn

@drmcallis

Жыл бұрын

@@laloajuria4678 Note that OTD is out the door, the final you pay including taxes, destination, etc. It's not all markup, though we talked them down from $5k to $2500... We did pay a couple of questionable fees in there, but as I said, we got one when we might not have had we passed on it.

I am still rocking the original 2017 Ioniq. Only washer fluid so far. Almost ready for new tires.

@BioniqBob

Жыл бұрын

Ditto, love the car but the 5 would be nice.

Does anyone know why there are a good amount of used, under 10k mi, Ioniq 5s available?

I wish hula girl could've been used on the Chrysler Pacifica hybrids I know it's quiet and has smooth ride but will she still dance the same as being in an EV?

I HATE those pop out door handles. I used to live in a area that iced over a lot, and have asked many times how those would handle it, but have never seen an answer. My guess is they wouldn't handle it well.

I wish manufacturers would stop calling vehicles like this "SUVs". This thing is as much as an SUV as the Subaru Crosstrek. Which is to say it's not -- it's literally just a normal hatchback with like a 1" lift. The only real EV "suvs" are the BMW IX, Audi Etron, Tesla X, and Rivian R1S -- all of which cost over $80k+. Anything remotely affordable is just a glorified hatchback. I say "suv" in quotes bc true SUVs are body on frame.

Wasn't so sure when it was first released, but really loving it now! Looks great in that black colour rather than the grey/silver every other one seems to be. Kind of has the proportions of an Alfasud to my eye.

@kevincinnamontoast3669

Жыл бұрын

Or an AMC Gremlin.

@johnbertram

Жыл бұрын

@@kevincinnamontoast3669 A little harsh, but yeah!!

@JeffDeLamater

Жыл бұрын

@@kevincinnamontoast3669 I'd say more Audi Quattro Sport, but similar vibe.

Can the navigation system map a trip that shows the charging stations and individual charger availability?

@Nighthawk429

Жыл бұрын

No, it's one of the few downsides.

One issue with EVs is that they do not have a long track record for replacing how many gas powered card are used. for example, it is not uncommon for a gas car to be on the road for 25-30 years. Furthermore, many quality models will often make it to that point with basic maintenance (oil changes, and belt replacements at recommended intervals). Many EVs will run into major battery issues long before that, as since they often only charge the packs to 80% capacity, it can take years for there to be a perceived range loss, but beyond that, li-ion batteries do not have a linear degradation curve, instead, they have a curve where for the first 500 or so cycles, the degradation is pretty linear, then it starts to degrade at a steeper and steeper rate. In your phone, that will often be seen as your phone going great the first year or 2, then within a few months, it will rapidly lose capacity. Many Tesla cars have experienced issues like this as well.

When will they make us a $20,000 ev. Just need it to go 150 miles. Don’t need it to have video games or recliner seats or glass roofs. Just need to get to work and a cup holder for my coffee.

16:45 I haven't found a single Hyundai dealer in Oregon who isn't marking things up and I did find a few out of state, but I called them and they won't sell to out of state buyers.

No mention of missing rear window wiper. For dryer climates it's ok but I certainly like to use one. Yes I know, that the airflow is supposed to keep it clean, but I doubt it works in the city. The steering wheel looks hideous nad the inside looks bit plasticy/cheap (compared to European cars). And yea, buttons for seat- and steeringwheel climate would be nice. Other then that, seems like cool car. Bit expensive though.

Wanted one, but gave up. Got a Rav4 Hybrid instead. Given all the EV charging issues of late I have seen, I'm kind of happy with the change to the Rav4. A plug-in would have been ideal, but a Rav4 Prime at MSRP is harder to find than a Rainbow colored Unicorn.

@kingpin3919

Жыл бұрын

Lol true but I lucked out on one last year for msrp

What about the 12V battery drain?

Please please please turn the volume up on your videos! The ad almost blew my eardrums.

HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE

One problem with 800VDC architecture over 400 is essentially you have put two banks in series instead of parallel which means if there are problems with cells it will have more degradation than the 400. Having more in parallel needs more amps but it is more reliable and better longevity.

Looks like a nice EV. I'm not at all sold on these things and I still want to know how they will operate in a constantly cold climate. In theory EV's are great for the environment unless you live where they mine the minerals to make the batteries and there is the problem of disposing of those batteries at end of life. Bottom line, that electricity still has to be generated by a fossil fuel, nuclear, or hydro. Wind and solar just don't cut it.

I don’t see any lease deals on this one. Anyone knows why?

Has tommy been doing pushups??? I see improvements

Tommy when u gonna take another scenic road trip???

I’m convinced Roman is the same guy that does the ‘Mormon Stories’ Podcast…..

From your FM screen, you need to update your software

If you think of buying a car out-of-state, be sure to check about the taxes owed as well as any state tax credits that might not be credited. It can still be a good idea, especially in today's car market.

@LamarW1776

Жыл бұрын

Yes, if your home state tax or registration fees arelower, the dealership will be refunding the difference.

You can't be the far away with the remote park guys....get it together. Lol

I bought Bolt EUV for now. In 2025 when hyundai will start production in US and will qualify for full 7500 credit, I will trade-in bolt for Ioniq 5.

A good effort. But I absolutely hate that infotainment system. They remove the hard controls because taking a shortcut. Cheaper for them, worse for us

@chrishansel9324

Жыл бұрын

if you hadn't noticed every auto manufacture is doing this. I agree I don't like it but thats what people want. You can also thank tesla for changing our cars into smart phones.

@kevinbarry71

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishansel9324 not all manufacturers are going that far. Look at the MDX. Even General Motors still keeps a lot of controls for a lot of their products. It varies. And as for what people want; I would say that has not been established. It's what the manufacturers want

@chrishansel9324

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinbarry71 do you have to take everything so literal. Of course all manufacturers don't do it right now but that's the way they're heading.

I like how it charges so fast. Way better charging speed than my Mach E and model 3. I prefer the Mach E’s design though.

@TheAndrwwJohnson

Жыл бұрын

Model 3 charges at 250kw though. The Mach E is 10 years behind. Their fast charging is trash.

@irfanhusein1445

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAndrwwJohnson when road tripping, I generally pull into a charging station when the battery is at 20% and stop charging when the battery reaches 80%. This is the strategy I follow with both my 2021 model 3 and my 2021 Mach E. This 60% charge takes 25 minutes in the model 3 and 30 minutes in the Mach e. The reason for this is that with the model 3, the charging slows down significantly once the car reaches 50% charge, even on a V3 supercharger. I would hardly call this 5 minute real world charging time difference a 10 year advancement.

@TheAndrwwJohnson

Жыл бұрын

@@irfanhusein1445 First 60% on a Mach E is less energy than a model 3. I usually pull in at 5% and leave when it says, no reason to wait for 80% unless it's needed to reach the next charger. Watch out of spec, the model 3 crushed the E in a race to Vegas by hours because the E is dismally slow with 50kw max compared to M3 250kw max.

@irfanhusein1445

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAndrwwJohnson the Mach E’s max pull is 150 kw and not 50kw. And it actually takes on a higher charge wattage between 60% and 80% than the model 3 in my experience

@TheAndrwwJohnson

Жыл бұрын

@@irfanhusein1445 Wats aren't even measured in the 3 so I call BS. The 3 charges way faster, even on 150kw chargers let alone the 250kw chargers. Thinking they're close is nuts. Every online review shows the Mach E is at Tesla speeds from 2013. The fact they convinced people to buy that garbage is criminal, especially when the Ionic has 300kw capability in the same price range. You can't explain why the Mach E got smoked in the race to Vegas, but it's the dismal fast charging. Beyond that the supercharger network is years ahead of other networks.

Why is your volume so low on this video?

You guys forgot a LOT about that car. Back seat adjustments, plugs underneath the back seat, etc.

Great car, no rebate. Costs too much.

Damn this one is beat up.... How long have y'all have it?

@thomasdragosr.841

Жыл бұрын

That is the car they loan to all of the car mags and testers. It probably gets abused.

Evs should come with not "years" warranty but "number of charging ". Time is not causing the deterioration of battery , charging is. So give us per say 20,000 times charging warranty.

is the infotainment outdated? latest software update doesn't look like that...

A great EV if you can find one! There in limited supply which is why dealers are marking up the price. The other issue is they will not qualify for the IRA EV tax credits which Tesla and other brands will so this will not make them that competitive to budget friendly EV shoppers. With the Chinese and Vietnemese soon entering the US market there should be a great choice of EV's for everyone at a reasonable cost. Kudos still to Hyundai/Kia for aggressively creating a great EV and not giving silly excuses like Toyota and Honda and betting on hydrogen fuel vehicles.

Kona N has less than 300hp. The Ioniq 5 N 585hp same as the EV6 GT

Well, when average income households can afford these "Made for NOT average income households," it may gain mainstream traction. Like all EV's currently, they've priced themselves well beyond the reach of all income aspects except for the rich. Which explains the 1%-2% EV owner's to date. Once gas stabilizes price wise and Electric shoots up, it'll be "Business as usual" again in the Automotive world.

We bought our Ioniq 5 in February and paid almost $1,000 over MSRP. The dealer initially was asking $10k over. P.S. The radio tubes on the tuner display are longer there after the latest software update.

@Dave_1960

Жыл бұрын

The display for radio is much better now. The update has been out for several months now. The update also allows auto change for display between light and dark based upon the sunlight instead of the clock.

@COSolar6419

Жыл бұрын

@@Dave_1960 I agree.

I believe you can activate seat warmer/cooler via voice control. Also you forgot to mention that Biden's new tax credit just totally killed the market of this. Hopefully that will help reduce the crazy markups

You're standing to far away lol. Also the VTL adapter was in the Frunk. It comes with.

Is it just me or does that foot rest on the driver's seat look like it has already been a shredded?

yall should do a slip test and off road test

“The bit I like about the minimalist design is…” the non-minimalist screens, buttons and look ROFL

Once I get this car, instead of walk my dog, I am going to walk my car every morning.

Best car made today period

@bob-qi4nr

Жыл бұрын

Chiron?

235 kw. Not 200. And if you look at various charge recordings you will know that it holds that rate to 60+ percent where it tapers to 175kw. It really destroys anything else in its price range.

I haven't seen many BUDDY shows, but are you purposefully wearing the same shorts?? lol

i saw an IONIC at the dealer, having owned a Veloster N and i must say.. it does look cool and the concept is cool.. but the interior is super cheap. i was disappointed in it. the materials are crappy as they get. overall the build quality isn't great either. trust me.

250 mile range? That alone makes it a no-go for me

You know I would be more confident if the third-party charging solutions such as electrify America and so on were more reliable. It seems like they gobbled up all the government grants to put the charging stations in. And probably pocketed some good coin along the way. Purposely forgetting about the fact that these chargers would need to be serviced. I’ve heard too many horror stories are these third-party chargers not working and being out of service more often than not. Yes Tesla is a more expensive solution, but at least they’re charging infrastructure is more reliable and more integrated with their vehicles. I love the ionic five and I would love to save a ton of money instead of buying a Tesla. However if I wanted to do a road trip I just can’t trust the third-party charging networks beyond what Tesla has in place today. They have certainly set the standard that unfortunately many third-party charge suppliers lack .

The premium audio isn't very 'premium'. Subwoofer is too small.

No $7500 tax credit for this car anymore.

If you count also the system to the car ( system = charging and navigation) , can any today ev car compete against tesla in any level.. i understand that tesla has some issues with details… but tesla is not only the car… but other ev models are just the car… your opinion ?

@chrishansel9324

Жыл бұрын

I think people get to focused on comparing every EV with a tesla. A tesla is one manufacture of EVs, its like comparing a ford Ranger with a Mercedes S class. A car having navigation is stupid in my mind when you carry around a device with thousands of maps loaded on it. that's why non Teslas have android auto and car play. And for charging Tesla's are better but how long did it take to build the super charger network and a what cost.

@karij9592

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishansel9324 yes, but tesla did build system that works with the car much better than others have, thats why i count that as a part of the car, other charging network systems are controlled too many keepers, thats why they cant make it work as steady as teslas, it is hard others to be included to the navigation system so informative that you know were can you charge, is it free or is it out of usage and how fast, only then charging network is great and you can rely that information what you get from navigation, but now it is useless messy structure that only makes ev life harder not easier, because they dont work as one. ( every ev car maker should at start join on one system … maybe even to the teslas network.. at the begining, now it is too late ) , i hope i make sense. P.s i dont have ev yet as its too expencive to me and i dont have place at home were to charge but i do like to see were its heading….

@chrishansel9324

Жыл бұрын

Tesla built their own proprietary system that is true and it works. The other auto manufacturers who make EVS did not build their own charging Network it is handled by third parties. This is why other EVS are cheaper than Tesla's because they are not paying for the infrastructure it is a separate company. So when you buy a Tesla you're not only buying a Tesla you're also helping pay for more superchargers. One of the reasons why Tesla's are more expensive.

@karij9592

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishansel9324 absolutely true, but that way tesla made system that actually work…

This is probably my favorite EV, the dash layout being a main reason. I just wonder about the longevity of the battery. 2019 owners are already reporting significant degradation. I like to keep a car for a very long time and I drive 25,000 miles per year.

@laloajuria4678

Жыл бұрын

i think anyone buying an ev (including us) just has to realize you might need to dump it when the warranty expires.

@SgtSweatySac

Жыл бұрын

Well, this car has only been out since March of '21 so..... I'd love to know where these time-travelling owners are.

@nevco8774

Жыл бұрын

@@SgtSweatySac Too much confusion/misinformation is flooding Internet these days...

@nevco8774

Жыл бұрын

Very Long time? How long? I keep Toyota Prius for 17 years. Yes battery had to be replaced in 10 years due to rear hatch hinge defect and water from rain reaching the battery thus causing 2 cell to go bad causing current circuit shortcut. Granted that battery in Prius is Nickel metal much more robust than Lithium ones. However with liquid thermomanagement and not charging more than 80% regularly and when discharged not kept lower than 20% more than a couple of hours those Lithium’s batteries could hold at least 75% of initial capacity in 15 years if mostly charged using AC current at home and occasionally DC fast charged on long trips.

$7500 tax rebate so rich people can buy a new car while the rest of us have to pay higher taxes to cover it.

It would be better if you could actually buy it. Little to no inventory and 10k + mark up.

very nice but could you do a review on the new MG4

@TFLEV

Жыл бұрын

No can do. We don’t get it in the States.

I know nothing abt spec and all but one thing I can say for sure is that Tesla’s design is horrendous. They need a proper design team

hope their e vehicles have more quality than the gas engines

@drmcallis

Жыл бұрын

It does, big time. Ours is flawless, and I do not say that lightly.

Volume to low on this 📹 .

Hyundai did great on all 26 of these Ioniq 5 American imports :(

I remember when Honda did the Morse code thing in the 80s...

cant hear you guys very well this video.

if you're in that tight of space, you're going to have lots of door dings from other cars. Just saying

“Best EV you can buy today.” Here in Ontario Canada, I cannot buy this car. Put a deposit in with the dealer in March 2022, and Hyundai Canada still has not opened order banks. 🤷‍♂️

That is one well used car. The interior is filthy and I'd hate to see what it looks like in 3-4 years.

It does look like a 80s vehicle.

@michigandon

Жыл бұрын

Like Sarah N Tuned said, it looks like something that should be on Robocop or Timecop.

Great car but too bad it will not qualify for the $7500 federal tax credit in the US, unless Hyundai on shores some of the production.

You need pants on Tommy

Now that the honeymoon phase is over and I've seen plenty of these in my area, it's safe to say it's uggo AF.