By the way you guys, TFL...always put out great content..honest and reliable content..no other channel is even close to the great videos you put out...THANK YOU

@TFLnow

3 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

Saying you are getting tired of people saying it is too expensive is not a good argument. People say it is too expensive because it objectively is in relation to wages and spending power-->price increases have outpaced wage growth and corporate greedflation puts once obtainable products out of reach, and advocating for the fairness in this or even stifling the conversation doesn't hold companies accountable.

@danmurray07

3 ай бұрын

Preach it. Couldn't agree more.

@billw8476

3 ай бұрын

you are correct.....i hate the arrogance as well.

@GamersAPYN

3 ай бұрын

I mean I get what he is saying time will never go back. This is the industry and wether we like it or not things are still being bought and made regardless of the price tag.

Yes on the format. 3 guys in a garage interacting with their community was refreshing to watch.

@markhavelka4924

3 ай бұрын

Seconded!

@doublebackagain4311

3 ай бұрын

Enjoying Roman staying behind the camera w/ his trap shut-

@michaelb4705

3 ай бұрын

yes, but someone needs to buy them a 3rd mic😂

I asked the price question and I still stand by it is way too much money for a Tacoma.

i still get paid in 2019 money 😂😵

@FrankySilverFace

3 ай бұрын

That sucks.

@ROBinJVILLE

3 ай бұрын

@@FrankySilverFace bigly

My wallet thinks it's 2019!

@iskdude9922

3 ай бұрын

Its called fiat currency...

@FrankySilverFace

3 ай бұрын

Invest your fiat currency. Interest rates are favourable for ppl with a some extra cash.

$8700 for a bed topper and a glorified tent is ridiculous.

@cutlerylover

3 ай бұрын

The problem is the person who buys this isnt the person using this...just my opinion, this is to show off but never be used...NO ONE is going to sleep in that tent but also have an empty truck bed so you have to take out ALL that gear just to access the tent and sleep in it? Then it all goes where on the ground? nope...

@bluceree7312

3 ай бұрын

$8700!!!! Crazy. I thought no more than 500 bucks maybe a grand tops.

It’s too expensive. Period. Price increases have outrun inflation and wages. From an owner of 5 Toyotas. Plus it’s only Mexico made where labor is cheap.

@Dusdaddy

3 ай бұрын

lol...then don't buy it!! We all know this. They are all overpriced. But as long as people buy them, they will sell them. So we'll pick up the affordable used ones.

@austinscott2577

3 ай бұрын

@@Dusdaddy Yup. Wait for the depreciation hit and buy used.

Does anyone remember what happened in the mid 90's when compact and midsize trucks were being priced within the same price range and didn't offer any benefits? They disappeared for the most part until now because of the outrageous prices and now they are back and repeating history.

@Hiluxtaco

3 ай бұрын

Midsize trucks disappeared in 90's?? 😂 That made me laugh.. 😅

Sorry, it is too expensive. Blame it on what you want but sales of the auto industry will slump until they reduce costs and bring prices down.

@lawdog516

3 ай бұрын

I agree BUT somebody’s buying them, as long as people keep buying them they will keep making them, thats just easy economics, sad but true 😢

@billricheter5678

3 ай бұрын

Look at the underpinnings and tail pipe location. Terrible

@MrCovert23

3 ай бұрын

@@lawdog516Nimrods are buying them . But to all the hard working blue collar folks hold the line . Simple economics, if you don’t buy them let them flood the market and the prices WILL COME DOWN

@jsmaes11

3 ай бұрын

Just because the world has change doesn’t justify all of the increases in pricing.

@Odifhdidkd

3 ай бұрын

@@lawdog516s

Too expensive for sure , in Canada 50k starting price , premium is 62k , they are pricing themselves out in the mid truck segment, can't wait how ridiculous the price will be for the Pro version.

@jtomtl

3 ай бұрын

80k for hybrid max, 80k for a midsize truck….My average wallet can’t handle it… I am not those rich KZreadrs, I have an actual job

The 3 TFL big dogs in one video in an informal atmosphere is the best TFL videos.

Keep complaining about high $$$. Manufacturers read the comments. We shouldn't just stay quiet and take it up the tailpipe. COVID's over. The prices SHOULD go back to 2019 levels.

I disagree with Roman on Price. The price is too high on vehicals in general and it needs everybody to voice thier opinion so the manufacturers hear this.

@ItsAlive111

3 ай бұрын

Price is way to high

@garysarratt1

3 ай бұрын

Fast food hamburger joints, and even TACO BELL, have increased to over $20 for combos for 2. Kudos to the fed and Kali gvts for raising the minimum wage so got dang high.

@ugochukwuonuoha3722

3 ай бұрын

The problem with manufacturers is rur martiral

@andreiionescu205

3 ай бұрын

Nothing îs expensive for tfl

@garysarratt1

3 ай бұрын

@@ugochukwuonuoha3722 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️

too expensive

Nobody cares about 2019 prices.......... A Jeep 2024 jeep product has an MSRP of 32K BUT it has 30K in addons.......now its 50K + That is the problem......... Call it whatever you want.

Finally saw one in person at my local Toyota dealer, a whopping 57 grand for a midsize truck, not fully loaded, and not the hybrid version either. Those will be more expensive.

@jeanclaude7018

3 ай бұрын

Outrageous $$$

@craigroosa9321

3 ай бұрын

No way ,,, stupid money !

I bought a stripped down 2 door tacoma back in 96 all it had was ac and 4 wheel nothing power and it was 19k that would equal 35k today

@eddiehaskell5578

3 ай бұрын

Bought a 2010 ford ranger for $16,000 cash. Received $8,000 for my trade. Sold it in 2024 for $2,500. Total cost $5,500 dollars for a vehicle I drove 150,000 miles and had for 14 years.😊

@Njrebel68

3 ай бұрын

@@eddiehaskell5578 thats my point they were overpriced then and they still are

I'm the original owner of a 1998 Taco SR5 TRD Off-Road, V6, 5-speed manual. The truck was built in March 1998 and is just over 26 yrs old now! It's still going strong with about 240k miles on it. It was essentially fully-loaded for a 1998 SR5. I paid $22,800 when I bought it. I will grant you that it doesn't have all the tech of the newer trucks....but I don't really care much about the new tech. It is rated to tow 5k lbs and haul around 1500 lbs. I use it all the time to tow and haul stuff (within it's rated capacities) as well as off-road (love living in Utah!). Unloaded I get 18-20 mpg, depending on season and traffic. I have long been considering getting a new truck for my daily driver. However, like many other people, I'm having a difficult time justifying the cost of new trucks. Personally, I'm going to wait and see what happens with prices over the next year or two (though they'll likely only go up....😟). As an aside, I'm not a cheapskate as my wife drivers a 2021 Wrangler Rubicon with an MSRP of $55K. I know new vehicles are expensive....ugh!

Nathan is right on. Appreciate him.

not too expensive based on year. too expensive based on what you get for the money.they are price gouging the trucks based on covid problems and you popular u-tube channels are our only voice to the dealers and manufacturers.

Watch out everybody, Roman is getting tired of people not being able to afford vehicles anymore

I hope you guys will start a regular “TFL Tailgate Discussion”. What’s better than hanging out on the tailgate with buddies shooting the breeze? Well, you’ll need a cooler and a grill (what types do you recommend?). lol. Anyways, thanks for all the great content and information ✌️

My 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 was $38,600 before taxes and fees when I bought it January 27, 2024.

@bigbassfishing1049

3 ай бұрын

Was it used?

Oh look, another channel about Tacomas. Just what youtube needed.

@foellerd

3 ай бұрын

They sell cars every so often for something else to review long term. Right now yes it is the Tacoma phase and like all phases it’ll pass.

To answer your last question Nathan, yes I really like this live Q&A format! I just wish I would've gotten a notification (maybe I did and missed it, who knows) when you guys went live. I would've hopped on and asked a few questions for sure. I think this format will ultimately help the channel as well, because you'll get a sense of what people are thinking and wanting to know, ultimately leading to relevant content (not that what you do now isn't relevant). As far as everyone saying trucks are so expensive now. They are. But, you must consider everything. Think about how much more technology is put in a vehicle today compared to even 20 years ago! ADAS. Turbos. Hybrids. Airbags. Bigger displays. Better sound systems. Not to mention way more safe! So so much "stuff". The consumer demands more, so the manufacturers give it! You could also say government mandates also factor in. Fleet wide MPG numbers are rising, forcing manufacturers to go to smaller displacement engines with turbos, as well as hybridization. Inflation is also playing a big role, as people's dollar isn't going as far as it used to, and at the same time prices have gone up. So it's a double whammy and people are feeling the effects. Great video guys, keep it coming!

So Roman is “tired of seeing comments saying trucks are too expensive”. What are you going to say next - “Let them eat cake”?

Donate now so poor Roman can afford a mic!

These midsize truck videos are great being able to get all of those at once! Thanks TFL

TFL is one of my favorite channels. Even with their flaws, they’re honest and out there going through all the ups and downs of ownership and use - plus all the personalities are the best

Great format. Feels like I’m hanging out at the office with you guys.

TFL needs to get an airstream. That will make this look cheap. Love camper corner show.

@LetMeCook86

3 ай бұрын

Roman is too cheap.

I think all it really needed was the same V6 from the 3rd gen with the new 8-speed transmission

wuold would you buy truck again? any information on when your driving the tacoma hybrid

Yes everything is more expensive, however i still thin its to much money. Also income has not kept up with proce increases and inflation is nuts for those reasons its still yo expensive. Roman is a lil correct and also allot wrong.

I’ve had a GFC on my 2019 Frontier for the past 3 years. It is awesome, but getting rid of it soon for a scout tuktut which will be a much better setup for winter camping.

Great video guys thanks for the honest opinions and showing different price points!

The doors on the canopy looks very flimsy and the braces at the sides doors makes it useless to load and grab items from the bed. Make the canopy stronger and ditch those braces.

@J.Young808

3 ай бұрын

Superpacific out of Oregon is a good alternative around the same price. There is also Lonepeak (I think)

Specialized outdoor stuff has always been pricey. $10k is a lot for a topper camper but it can fill a role of much more expensive options and are a lot more convenient than campers or vans.

@13ZONEZERO

3 ай бұрын

Not to mention it’s going to leak like hell you see the tailgate gap . Same problem as the at overland tops they all leak like hell

TFL, you guys are KILLING it. New Colorado, Tacoma, Ranger RAPTOR? All the videos you guys have been releasing... I'm so excited.

Do you guys have any issues with what sounds like possibly detonation or valve train noise? I just bought the 24 sr5 double cab and I love the truck but I can definitely hear this noise from 2,000 to 3,000 rpm. Primarily 1st through 4th gear. Just curious if you have experienced anything similar it does it going uphill also before the boost starts building. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

There are five buttons where the locking rear axle button is. Besides Locking Rear Axel and Front Sway Bar disconnect, what other buttons options take up the other three spaces?

@foellerd

3 ай бұрын

I know they said disconnecting sway bar is one, 2 others are for heated seats, not sure about the last one.

Feel better sir. Not sure what you’re going through but hope it turns out well.

Is that topper available in a color other than black? It looks great but it would be hotter than hades down south.

@trailrunnah8886

3 ай бұрын

Probably not, every time I've ever seen these they're all black. That said, you could probably have it wrapped in whatever color you want.

😊😊😊 Really enjoy these style of videos and fleet updates. Great work tfl team. Yes it's all exorbitantly pricy now, but that's life at this time. I've been watching since the Rav 4 vs Subaru off road mis match! Keep it up 😊😊

@TFLnow

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Great video! You guys covered a lot of ground. I'm always excited to hear about your future purchase plans

Question: Obviously the camper top blocks both cameras above the rear window. Can you still see anything with them? Into the bed of the truck?

The 4wd definitely of this new Tacoma has me concerned, along with the overall price. Frankly I could get a ZR2 for same or less money that a well equipped TRD Off-road. It’s good to see various camping options, but I must say I’m not fond of the bed config on the GFC and how it’s accessed from within the truck bed. Looking forward to hearing your comments on it. Can’t wait to see more vids on the Bean trailers. Not cheap, but quality construction.

Manual option with the Ridgeline??? Tell me more.

What is the ride height now with the GFC on?

Great video guys, would love to one of Andre’s build and price videos going over the Ranger Raptor spec you have in order. Mine is built just waiting for it to ship. Dealer ETA on mine is late April. What is your dealer ETA?

Respectfully, I disagree with Roman’s frustration with the increased prices. Yes, everything has gone up in the past 5 years but there’s no denying the proportional increase in vehicle prices compared to other things like food increases is staggering. The new prices on vehicles is up over 20% and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with people noting that it’s simply not worth it. Coming from someone who sold my vehicle and went with a used 2014 Tacoma because new truck prices aren’t realistic for the average American. Love the videos but consumer frustration isn’t something to scoff at.

@efrainserranonegron5490

3 ай бұрын

It’s crazy that you had to go with a used 2014 Tacoma and Toyota keeps wondering why the have 2024 Tacomas seating in lots already and not flying out like they hoped.

@vincebadagnani181

3 ай бұрын

Most of it probably lies in that 4 1/2 years ago, most car dealerships offered cars at a discount over MSRP, sometimes considerably. But now, it seems like a bargain if you can get it at MSRP, with lots of dealers price gouging. If consumers would temper enthusiasm over the latest and greatest, and stop paying over MSRP or boycotting those dealerships, prices would come down. Maybe not like before, as they’ll claim there are still supply chain issues, etc. Maybe, maybe not. Seems a little like a cop out, but here we are…

It is expensive but I accept the prices as reality, pure and simple. That doesn’t mean I’ll line up for one today. In fact, I think it makes me more patient to see what else comes to market and really assess my needs long term. I used to like buying cars every three years or so, but those were different times. Cost aside, I’ll also be even more demanding of the manufacturer and value they provide. On another note, I’m very excited about the Ranger Raptor. At $55k-$60k, it’s a very intriguing option. It at least looks like a bunch of fun. I do like this approach to videos, TFL. I greatly enjoy you guys and what you do. Be well and carpe diem.

Nothing today justifies the price. Roman is right that this is the world we live in now and it sucks. Inflation has been insane. This truck in 2019 probably would go for under 40k back in 2019.

Cool video guys !!!

The Tacoma is a great looking truck. I think that I would go for the New Ranger in the XLT trim with Fx4 for the price

You mentioned PHEV Maverick. Would that create a AWD model?

100 years experience in this video!! Great video format. I agree with Nathan more often than not. Andre is a great guy, so is Roman. I don't understand the Roman hate comments. He's entertaining and funny and has said before he's not the most accurate with repeating stats. lol 3 mic's would help! 😂

Nathan being a damp rag during the big reveal. Love the TFL team.

Well, I was not here for the live show, cause I never know when you might do it. Schedules help. Consistency helps. Having a live show once a week like you used to on a specific day and or time, more people can chime in and get maybe get answers to questions they don't get from the comment sections. Don't like canopies on trucks. Been done to death. Looks awful on that truck. IMO. I get it, you do it for free stuff and or sponsorships. But still. From a content perspective, it just has been done to death. Every truck does not need a canopy slapped on it. Not hating, just stating an opinion.

Brake controller.. Whats your long term plan there? Thanks

Super psyched about your Ford Ranger Raptor! Love to see it go through your full gambit of tests.

Is the 8spd better than dreadful 6 spd

@chrisb9478

3 ай бұрын

All the reviews I’ve seen say the 8sp is way better than the old 6sp. And it doesn’t hunt gears anymore. 👍🏻

Speaking of “pickup trucks becoming the new limousines” , it’s only a matter of time till we get the first 3 row pickup truck, mark my words.

@J.Young808

3 ай бұрын

Already happened in the 1980’s & 1990’s, though not from the OEM’s

At the 11 min area , you were talking about fuel economy on the upcoming Hybrid version. I recently talked to my local Toyota dealer and asked him about the mileage potential and he estimated like you said, more power but not alot better mileage. He actually gave the combined number of 20 or 21 mpg. I had heard somewhere on internet, it may get 28 or 29 on highway, he said no way .

@ItsAlive111

3 ай бұрын

Don’t trust what dealers say

Can't wait see Ranger Raptor got me interested for my next truck going wait maybe 3 years so all little new problem bugs get figure out and my kids be little bit older for being single dad full time, have 2019 Ram crew cab now for Daily paid off

@phild9813

3 ай бұрын

I hear you with waiting for the bugs to get worked out. Along those lines, I can’t help but think that these guys breaking the front diff was the best thing that could have happened. Otherwise Toyota would never have gotten on the ball to develop a fix. I’m sure they won’t recall anything but at least if you break yours during the warranty period, they will fix it. I’m sure if it breaks outside the warranty period it will be on the buyer unfortunately.

Can you guys do a comparison with Tacoma vs GMC Canyon AT4 and then when available TRD Pro vs Canyon AT4X

Awesome update and review!

@joemahan311

3 ай бұрын

When are you guys going to visit the coast? TFL on the road?! Road trip reviews?

My main issue with the cost of the new Tacoma is the fact that they are now 100% build in mexico. If they were build in the USA or Japan I may not complain , but I have to agree with the the others that it is at least $5000 to expensive.

@senninhapsx1191

3 ай бұрын

They’re assembled in Mexico, as was the last Tacoma. Part are from Japan and the US.

@andreasm2882

3 ай бұрын

Last tacoma was a mix. Either assembled in usa or Mexico. Now it is 100% mexico. My 2019 tacoma sticker specifically shows assembled in mexico. The labor cost in mexico don't even come close to the USA, if they want to charge these insane prices then they need to be assembled here.

Enjoyed the live format, especially toward the end. You three are the heart and soul of this channel, so it's nice to see three friends just chatting on the tailgate - feels very natural and wholesome. Also, I hope Roman is OK. If there's anything you need, let us know.

Great video guys the intro had me dying lol 😂

Bigger tires with the TRD PRO, hybrid engine , lets see if the front differential can last?

@foellerd

3 ай бұрын

Haha. Let’s see some 40’s 😂

Love the honest evaluating you guys are doing. Great show, keep up the good work.

Love these camping builds. But I really love the ideal that you have a cheap roof top camping build coming. As I have a cheaper roof top tent on a smart cap on my power boost and I love it.

My paycheck did not go up anywhere near the cost increase in price. Ford and Chevy both priced me out of the new truck market. I am upgrading my existing vehicles. The new trucks are great performance wise. The price is a killer. I am not going to pay for the electric trucks with my purchase of a gas truck.

I’m on vacation in St. Lucia. Saw a Ranger Raptor in person - LOOKS AWESOME!

$45k, and no heated seats and a small touch screen. For 10k more you can have these features. My 23 Colorado Z71 has every option you could get, was only 46k and my differential hasn’t exploded. Toyota really screwed the pooch with this new Tacoma.

You should be able to use the car lift at the ranch to raise and lower the GFC quickly and safely.

Am I the only one that thinks the radio screen looks like a computer monitor from 2012 and the vents look odd

Good job guys! Really seems real this way...and not always scripted..

Everyone here is right. No, it's not 2019, but everything, trucks included, are too expensive. Maybe a recession will fix this, but doubt the feds will let that happen.

Great show. I love the show and information.

@TFLnow

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

Because everyone is buying a pick up for no reason as a contractor i need it but most other truck guys on the road just ego driving. Thats why the price gone up. Advertising and off road community praise it like king

If it’s got AC, cruise control, 4WD and a locker then it’s a luxury vehicle in my book 😂

How much cheaper if it was a manual ?

Andre needs his own channel.

I agree everything from everyone got more expensive. The big problem is most people's paychecks did not keep up with inflation, so, that is why I think you are hearing so many people mention, price as a pain point.

Yeah, don’t agree with Roman regarding the price. Yes all things have gone up and none of it is justifiable.

@Tundra_Guy

3 ай бұрын

This is what you get when the libtards are in charge.

Guys l love your videos, but I can’t afford most of your vehicles reviews. Excellent for those who can afford them. But 80% of us haven’t get a decent salary increase in years.

@KPHVAC

3 ай бұрын

Basically all new vehicles are way too expensive! There are far too many fools willing to pay $700 to $1,200 car payments. TFL is in the new vehicle review business so it's not their fault.

@AutoEnthusiastJC

3 ай бұрын

agreed. Everyone seems to think we all got 20% raises year over year since 2020. Just not true.

@KPHVAC

3 ай бұрын

@@AutoEnthusiastJC Business has definitely slowed down in the last year for me. Inflation is killing everyday Americans all while our government just keeps on spending money we don't have.

Excited to see what Nathan gets next!

Big tow hooks...lol....Andre your hands made like Dolly Parton tow hooks..😂

Roman is rich and doesn’t even know it!!!😂

Brake caliper retention pin problems. This could be dangerous. One problem after another for tacoma. Look it up doesn’t appear to be on all trucks. But there is a vid on y tube about it

Like someone else on here said, I’m still getting paid a 2019 salary; my pay hasn’t gone up proportionately with inflation. What I had to do is buy a cheaper truck. My ‘23 Ranger XL 2WD was $32K & I’m simply doing without the extra comfort & fun stuff. As long as people continue to buy & lease vehicles at these ridiculous prices, the price is going to stay the same.

Really looking forward the Camper Corner segments!!

Besides the fact that all vehicles are expensive now... the tacoma is legitimately more than any other of the midsize trucks by at least 5k. I have heard of some 10k with dealer markups. This truck specifically is too expensive on top of the current vehicular prices.

No Roman, you are wrong about the price. Car companies, all of them have taken advantage of higher inflation to increase prices WAY over the inflation we have actually experienced in the economy. That's price gouging - just because they are ALL doing it doesn't make it justified - that was the viewers question. You are just adding to the problem by saying it's justified it just isn't. It's not just car companies, but they are amoungst the worst. Yes, they have had supply chain challenges (mostly of their own making by the way - especially Toyota). So fed up with motoring journalists just accepting this as "oh well, what can you do". What you guys can do is use your platform to advocate for lower prices. For fair increases when necessary. Nathan and Andre - Roman is wrong on this, I know he's your boss but don't listen to him - you keep speaking up for lower pricing!

@foellerd

3 ай бұрын

Louder just incase Roman missed this valid point. Sometimes Romans frustration clouds his judgement and he takes a boomer-like stance. Obviously he’s not a boomer but when he has takes like this I feel like I’m listening to one.

Regardless if the truck is worth the price it won't sell. I'm already seeing 2K dollar discounts at some dealers. Banks don't do sub prime loans anymore. Cost of money is way up. Plus these new tacos are not even competitive with the Colorado or Frontier. This is by far the most expensive mid size. When a sport costs more then a fully loaded Pro 4X then the value isn't there. Wait until the Pro's come out. They will likely want 60K. They are crazy. Plus like the Tundra the hybrid version won't sell. Because it just adds way too much to the MSRP. They don't sell well.

Love that camper set up. Expensive but love it.

Are you guys going to buy the new TRD Pro? Or do a in depth comparison and review of the TRD Pro vs Off Road?