Here’s Rock-Solid Evidence That 1 John 1:9 Is for Sin-Deniers, Not Christians! | Andrew Farley

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Forever in His Presence - Part 2
In the second message of our series, “Forever in His Presence: Understanding Our Unbroken Fellowship with God,” we examine the rock-solid evidence that 1 John 1:9 is directed at sin-deniers, not Christians! This distinction is crucial for grasping the completeness of our forgiveness in Christ.
We’ll also unpack how Chapter 2 further clarifies that 1 John 1:9 is written to unbelievers, making the audience of this landmark passage unmistakable. Plus, we explore the profound truth that walking in the light means salvation, not just a temporary state of fellowship.
Join us for this enlightening message and be inspired by the liberating truth of your once-for-all forgiveness and unshakeable fellowship with God!
Discussion Questions:
1. Which verses in today’s message prove that light here means salvation, not a temporary state of “fellowship”? Why is this important? How does it help us understand 1 John 1:9 even better?
2. How does 1 John 2:12 help solidify that 1 John 1:9 is addressing the sin denier who says they have no sin and is in the darkness (unsaved)?
3. 1 John 1:9 is written to someone who does not have the truth in them. How does 1 John 2:4 further define this person as being an unbeliever?
4. What does John say to older believers and younger believers in verses 13 and 14? Why the different messages to different audiences?
5. What is the “commandment” that John keeps referring to in this passage? What evidence do we see in this passage for this conclusion?
6. What is the biggest takeaway from today’s message for you? Why?
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  • @robinl6659
    @robinl66598 күн бұрын

    Jesus + Nothing = Everything! Thank You for rightly dividing the Truth!👍👍👍👍

  • @benkoops6815
    @benkoops6815Ай бұрын

    Finally! I've been in agreement with Andrew's explanation of 1 Jn 1:9. Pastors have treated me with disregard at times when I said 1 john 1 is a message to the lost in his hearing before he gets into loving one another. Once n for all. What shall we say then shall we continue in sin that Grace might increase, may it never be. No, we walk in the new nature, in God's glorious power instilled in us by his Holy spirit. Thank you so much Andrew praise God. 1981 good preacher named Jim McCotter explained this to 5000 college students and they got it right. My dear old dad who was raised christian reformed, had the habit of after every evening dinner he'd pray and Lord forgive us of our sins. I said Dad, come on once and for all he's forgiven us. Can you please pray thank you for forgiving us of our sins. We're more motivated to love God because of his grace and love than the fear of judgement then

  • @djaconetta

    @djaconetta

    Ай бұрын

    Sin is never an issue in salvation because Christ took care of the sin problem on the cross once and for all. But it is a issue for the Christian for fellowship and filling of the spirit reasons.

  • @mystery407
    @mystery40721 күн бұрын

    I truly love Brother Farley's teaching. He understands that we are forgiven of ALL our trespasses ( past, present and future)(Colossians 2;13) and that Christ nailed it to the cross(Colossians 2;14). However, where we differ is that he does not rightly divide the scriptures (II Timothy 2;15). Although all scriptures are for us, they are not all TO US and were written for our learning ( Romans 15;4). This is why when Brother Farley interprets IJohn 1;9 " if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness ". It sounds contradictory to Grace. Because under Grace there are no works (Ephesians 2;8-9). Confession is considered works. You are saved by putting your faith in Christ finished work ( Read Romans chapter3;21-30). You don't lift a finger for salvation- just believe. But, if you rightly divide the scriptures, you'll learn which books are written for Jewish believers and other for Gentiles. This cuts down on a lot of confusion and you can truly distinguish between grace and law. Paul was sent to the uncircumcision ( Gentiles and everyone else) and Peter and the twelve to the circumcision (Jews). This is why they gave him( Paul) the right hand of fellowship ( Galatians 2;7-9). So, to be clear, I John is really a Hebrew epistle and we are not Hebrews. If you compare scripture with scripture, you will be able to see the difference in language used and teachings between Paul's gospel, Dispensation of the grace of God ( Ephesians 3;1-2) and the Kingdom gospel what Christ taught in his Earthly ministry along with Peter and the twelve apostles (Mathew 4;23).

  • @YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726
    @YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726Ай бұрын

    The Work of GOD is to Believe in CHRIST JN.6:28-29 a servitude with an inner desire and purpose HOLY SPIRIT led promptings

  • @YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726
    @YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726Ай бұрын

    Amen HALLELUYAH… whatsoever is not of Faith is sin ROM.14:23 Salvation in CHRIST included … it’s not progressive!!! It is settled Finished 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 PS.119:89 JN.19:30 … therefore We Live Out from Our Position of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH ROM.4:13 GAL.5:5 ROM.11:6

  • @carolbattle8010
    @carolbattle8010Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the message.

  • @n8branim
    @n8branimАй бұрын

    "Bring out Mo'" 😅 Good teaching, thanks!

  • @arliegage1380
    @arliegage1380Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much🎉

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921Ай бұрын

    For such☝️ are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. {2 Corinthians 11:13-15}

  • @jruthbarclay
    @jruthbarclayАй бұрын

    Amen!

  • @jsmathe1
    @jsmathe1Ай бұрын

    In Christ, we are no longer a slave to sin, we became slaves of righteousness as a new creation. We reckon ourselves dead indeed to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. If we don’t, we will continue to sin, fall and fail and live in a self defeating destructive cycle instead of receiving the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness to reign in life through the one Jesus Christ. We will expect to sin and won’t overcome or learn to be led by the Spirit which is not God’s design. As a new creation you’ve been recreated by the Spirit with a new divine nature that wants to please God and it’s not a nature that wants to do sin and get away with. It’s good to acknowledge our mistakes, receive the gift of forgiveness that is already ours in Christ and get back up and not get condemned / guilty but get anchored in the truth of Christ to live in innocence with a free conscience washed by the blood as a slave of Christ and expect to live right. You are united with Christ in union with Him as part of His precious body. Jesus already succeeded every place of our failures and struggles, so we live in utter confidence in Him, submitted to our new head Christ not under Adam. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Who the Son sets free is free indeed! You are free from all bondages and destruction that came through Adam by the law of sin and death! This is why Gospel is irresistible, life changing and so powerful!

  • @orangeandslinky
    @orangeandslinkyАй бұрын

    Calvinism simply asks why do some believe Andrew or why do most not believe what Andrew is saying. The theory is salvation is of the Lord. Someone asked John MacArthur, "how do we know if we are really saved?" John said, "well, if you can lose your salvation, you know for sure your not saved." Why? Cause salvation is eternal.

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921Ай бұрын

    Good grief!

  • @YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726
    @YAHWEHTSIDKENUG726Ай бұрын

    💫✨💥🙌🏽 HEB.5:9 HEB.12:2 it is of Faith… to Believe: A persuasion of Trusting and Believing in CHRIST by ABBA FATHER GOD 🌴💦🙌🏽💥✨💫 CHRIST is The Author of Our Eternal Salvation 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @MichaelBelievesinchrist
    @MichaelBelievesinchrist25 күн бұрын

    I believe what you are saying. My question is, how are the ones saying lord lord regarding miracles, performing them in the first place? Don’t you have to have the Holy Spirit in order to do so? And if you have the spirit you are his. If any man have not the spirit of Christ he is none of his. So how does this make any sense?

  • @michaelmelter2271

    @michaelmelter2271

    22 күн бұрын

    There’s actually an example of people performing lying miracles in the Old Testament who weren’t believers like Pharaoh’s magicians. Also, it talks about how in the last days there will be lying wonders but they do not come from God. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10: “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

  • @djaconetta
    @djaconettaАй бұрын

    If 1 John 1:9 isn't for the believer to get back into fellowship with God ,by confessing his or her sin ..then what does the Christian do with this nature to commit sin that is much greater than they realize. ? there is no other way.

  • @savinggracechurch4112

    @savinggracechurch4112

    Ай бұрын

    God is not judging us based on us or our obedience or disobedience. But instead through the new covenant (through the cross) Jesus was judged in our place. Under the old covenant the covenant was between man and God and man's ability. But under the new covenant it has been ratified between God the Son and God the Father. We are not even in the equation! And another thing Matthew chapter 6 and the Lords prayer dosent apply to us because those who heard it were Israel under the law. But this side of the cross "we forgive because we are already forgiven " Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 3:13 both say this!

  • @johanpeters5528

    @johanpeters5528

    Ай бұрын

    Amen 🙏

  • @savinggracechurch4112

    @savinggracechurch4112

    Ай бұрын

    You can't be out of the light as he is in the light. The covenant is between Jesus and the Father, not between you and the Father. That's why you can't lose fellowship!

  • @djaconetta

    @djaconetta

    Ай бұрын

    @@savinggracechurch4112 Excellent...You are right on the money. You have done your homework

  • @jsbc1988

    @jsbc1988

    10 күн бұрын

    If You are in Christ you are in Fellowship . Fellowship is Our union with Christ

  • @savinggracechurch4112
    @savinggracechurch4112Ай бұрын

    It's funny (not) that the new testament is worse than the old because under the old testament sins were taken care of once a year at the day of atonement. The church has taught a first Adam that is more powerful than last Adam! But by the One man's disobedience all were made sinners. But by the One sacrifice for sins many have been made righteous. Yes indeed Second Adam is more powerful than first Adam and in Him we have been made perfect forever!!!

  • @orangeandslinky
    @orangeandslinkyАй бұрын

    This is a big deal

  • @nevereux
    @nevereuxАй бұрын

    Where is the Bible saying that we’re forgiven past, present and future sins? Because i only found Rom 3:25 “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God”, which shows why we need 1John 1:9. Jesus’s blood cleansed us from past sins when we believed and cleanses us from present sins when we forsake them and repent, presently (say, if you stumbled yesterday). We’re being made perfect through sanctification, which comes with trials and errors (sins). Nevertheless, when the Holy Spirit comes, He convicts the world of sin (John 16:7-8). The extent of sin is never known until the HS searches out our hearts with a lamp, for we do a thousand things that we do not know that they’re sin. The sacrifice of Jesus is God creating/providing the entrance in His Kingdom, this is what was finished. On the other disturbing hand, Heb 6:4-6. Shalom.

  • @kimwestwood8840

    @kimwestwood8840

    Ай бұрын

    Revelation of salvation will make you free from religious doctrine . The atonement for sin in the OT was made for one year, past, present AND future. How much more does Jesus cleanse us from? The book of Hebrews was written to believers who began making animal sacrifices. IF the passage you gave is about losing salvation, why does it say in Hebrews 10 : " 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected FOREVER those who are being [d]sanctified." We are the righteousness of Christ by the blood. NOT confession of sin. There are many sins we have forgotten, just as you stated. Are we to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal every one of them to confess ? How will we know we got them all confessed? I do hope you realize the absurdity of your conclusions which are not biblical.

  • @nevereux

    @nevereux

    Ай бұрын

    @@kimwestwood8840indeed, “perfected forever THOSE WHO ARE BEING SANCTIFIED”, not all of us. Which is the same with Rev 19:7 where the Bride “has made HERSELF ready”. It’s not that we’re to obsess over what we do not know, but we’re to ask God to show us what we need to repent of that we do not think is sin. Because “without holiness (= sanctification), no one will ever see the Lord”, Heb 12:14.

  • @nevereux

    @nevereux

    Ай бұрын

    @@kimwestwood8840also i’m not saying this might be your case, but just to be sure i am adding this. People generally call salvation what Romans 3 calls justification. We are justified when we believe (God’s righteousness is imputed onto us, we’re seen as saints and no more as sinners), it’s only the 1st step, for salvation comes in 3 steps (it’s all in Romans), namely: justification, sanctification (continually conformed into the likeness of Christ) and glorification (when we shall see Him as He is). So we are all justified, some are being sanctified, thus not all of us will be glorified. Run the race so that you might win, 1Cor 9:24. Even Paul longed mightily for the COMPLETION of his salvation, Phil 3:11. The race is to be glorified, but we’re not glorified unless sanctified (Heb 12:14), and how are we sanctifying ourselves (Rev 19:7)? Shalom.

  • @kimwestwood8840

    @kimwestwood8840

    Ай бұрын

    @@nevereux Not sure what you mean by " not all of us" All who are born again are justified and sanctification is simply God's process of bringing trials , baptisms of fire on us to help us grow and mature. Being saved, salvation, is a one time event where we are given a new heart and sealed by the Holy Spirit. Our 2nd redemption spoken of is the joining of our bodies , new glorified physical to the spiritual. So I do not agree there are " 3" phases of salvation. Sanctification is not salvation Revelation uses language you cannot use literally always.

  • @nevereux

    @nevereux

    Ай бұрын

    @@kimwestwood8840 Ok, not 3 steps, but 3 tenses (past: justification; present: sanctification; future: glorification)? Everyone is justified, but after this 1st step we have baptized believers clearly not undergoing sanctification, quenching the HS, Mat 25:1-12. These “imperfectly purified” are actually the lukewarm of Rev 3:16 and Mat 7:22-23, those who confessed Christ with their lips and live like the devil in the world, the Christians in-name-only, who have no splinters from carrying the cross. Ultimately, it’s the same principle as in Jer 18:10 “If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.”. God’s covenant swings open on the hinges of IF: “IF my people, if you obey, if you do, …THEN I will, i will, i will…”. But seriously, how can you ignore Rom 3:25 clearly mentioning that we’re forgiven of the sins “previously committed”, or “past”. Nowhere in the Bible is saying you’re forgiven future sins, but it’s saying to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”, Phil 2:12.

  • @MacBook1ng
    @MacBook1ngАй бұрын

    Farley complicates things with his Hyper Grace nonsense. I know some guys sucked into his top-down theology which is very black and white. But God's mind and ways out of our reach. But Farley talks from a position of knowing God's ways. Living our daily lives is very gray. Confessing our wrong-doing is not "a bar of soap." Farley's formula is that "people struggle with sin" but the nature of sin means nothing on a daily basis. But the wages of sin is death. I have a friend who loves this idea. He has a child out of wedlock, she's three years old. His relationship with the mother is "more off than on." But they attend church together. He says he prays often how they should proceed as a family. He just wants an answer, "their relationship isn't right." Interestingly, Farley's Grace theology doesn't help my friend with his predicament. I don't know any sin-counting Christian bean counters with an innate hate and a score card. Who is this guy talking about? Not the average guy whose mistakes are real struggles. Farley is in the theological stratosphere while the rest of us have our feet on the ground.

  • @genekirby9822

    @genekirby9822

    Ай бұрын

    He is only speaking truth!

  • @chilidog73

    @chilidog73

    Ай бұрын

    His theology comes from a study of the word through the eyes of a linguist. He is only rightly dividing the word and properly applying the scriptures to either non-believers or believers. Yes, the wages of sin is death. But not for a Christian. Jesus paid the price for our sin. And there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. I recommend digging deeper into Andrew's teachings. If you can get the simplicity of the Gospel, it will change everything. God bless.

  • @MacBook1ng

    @MacBook1ng

    Ай бұрын

    @@chilidog73 simplicity? Ever drive in busy traffic and two cars are driving crazy causing problems? Rubs everyone wrong, the peace and order of traffic flow is disrupted. And then the second driver catches up to the first. Farley’s brand of theology is simple… maybe for some people, but what about the self righteous overly entitled, or those with their heads in the clouds or stuck in the sand. Regardless, our “behavior” and “sin” absolutely rubs off on others under the umbrella of Grace. Are we magically shielded by repercussions? Our response, your sins are forgiven, brother! All gone? Wiped clean forever. But is the offender free from acknowledging the reality of their actions which means an explanation or confession, to prove or disprove, a denial or an apology… to anyone… or no one? Luke 17:1-4… Matt 6:14… come to mind. But the driver in the lead car, is your pastor, and the second driver pulls a gun and shoots him dead. Farley’s grace and the human experience aren’t mutually exclusive. Sin obviously can have tragic consequences within the realm of the human experience for the forgiven and unforgiven alike. Farley ignores how others are affected by our sin? And asking, receiving and giving forgiveness has a tremendous power to heal. James 5:16. Just as we “ask” Jesus, “receive” His Spirit, and experience or “given” God’s grace, in this life and beyond.

  • @DosBlade

    @DosBlade

    Ай бұрын

    Farley's not there to defend himself and I am not here to defend him. Oh pffft.. 1st John.. its easy search where John was talking to "Gnostics" see they believed they have no sin. Now go back and read it. Context. Its like reading where Paul was talking about willfully sinning? Yeah see Jewish believers in Christ when they sinned would go back and offer a sacrifice for that sin. Paul or really the sweet sweet holy Spirit told them there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Christ can not die again. To do that puts Christ to open shame. Look how many tell Christ ever day.. what you did on the cross was not good enough to cover all sin. For some reason YOU can sin as in that Christ never died for.. wow. Not going to keep going.. I have allot but you don't back up anything you say with the word of God. I am not here to talk about Farley.. I do not follow him. They will know you are mine by your love one for another. I give you this.. there is another preacher that is also know for hyper grace.. he has a HUGE Church. Saw him last year on TV.. sad because again he had to something he always said. We cannot freely sin.. sin repent.. He does not focus on sin.. nor does GOD. Christ already died for the sin of the world yet some believe they can sin as in Christ never died for. Paul told those Jewish believers when they sinned they would go and offer a sacrifice for that sin. He said there is no more sacrifice for that sin. Christ cannot die again. By doing what they were doing put Christ to open shame. Look how many seem to believe they are more righteous if they never sin. Anyone that never sinned again still could not enter heaven. I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but by me. You are in right standing righteousness not because you don't sin but simply because you believe in Jesus Christ THIS IS WRITTEN.. And you came to do what? Some day He will say to some (not us) if you have done it to the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me. If someone attack you they are attacking Christ. IF this man is in error. Don't talk about him.. pray for him.. you love him like you love Christ.. you love him just as much as you love mom dad kids or a spouse. Ooh if they miss it goof up sin.. shh we don't say a word we pray for them.. then turn around LOVE YOU JESUS

  • @MacBook1ng

    @MacBook1ng

    Ай бұрын

    @@DosBlade Farley’s head is in the clouds. Or maybe buried in the sand. It’s hard to tell. Wake up, people. Half truths is only half the message. Christ is full of Grace and Truth. But the devil is crafty. God desires unity among his people. The devil also has plans to unite the world. The wheels are in motion. Are we prepared?

  • @timmysaxon-qe5of
    @timmysaxon-qe5ofАй бұрын

    What a contradiction... you free gracers say that to be saved you don't have to repent of your sins, but here you're saying that 1 John 1:9 is for the unbelievers and it says if we confess our sins, I thought you didn't have to do that in the doctrine of easy believeism.

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