NO AUTO START/STOP!!!! yeah!!!!!

Sorry guys but the heavy steering is one of the things that I love about this truck just feels so sturdy and powerful in lots of ways.

I think the new Frontier is the best looking midsize truck.

@egolli2158

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think most midsize trucks look boring (except the unusual Gladiator), but this pulls it off. Its very inoffensive, but also aggressive enough. Also looks refined and kind of fancy.

@XLTBlarg

2 жыл бұрын

@Shifty McGee462 I love that the ranger and Colorado hoods slpoe down to give you better visibility. I hate this new fad of boxy horizontal hoods. Its less safe and for these smaller trucks your not getting anything bigger than a V6.

@ms1406

2 жыл бұрын

I think the ranger looks the best then the tacoma

They "don't buy" that people called for hydraulic power steering, but everyone buys that Toyota used a 1980's C-frame and drum brakes for legitimate reasons🤣

@clutchtown4466

Жыл бұрын

Agreed- A major draw of the frontier is how analog it is

To add to the Destination rant.. It's hard to beleive a dealer pays up to 2k per vehicle to have it delivered. You're telling me a truck delivering 10 new vehicles costs 15-20k? I have a hard time believing dealers actually pay that destination charge.

The destination fee not being wrapped into the MSRP make me want to negotiate it out at purchase. I will walk away from the dealership for them hanging on to it! If they don’t fix it I’ll move on!

@jar1525

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

@kinglasher84

2 жыл бұрын

I told a dealer once to tell me where I can pick it up instead of paying the fee

I have '18 Frontier 4x4 and I am seriously liking this newer version. It's really nice looking. Nissan, did a great job imo. If anything I gotta test drive one.

I agree with you Roman, I hate the destination charge. Its as if the dealer is penalizing you for buying a vehicle at their dealer.

@chicagocars

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Thats charged by the manufacture

@brucemartin492

2 жыл бұрын

@@chicagocars whether its charged by the dealer or the manufacturer, its still wrong of them to charge it to you.

When you are 68 years old and have a bad hip those little steps can be the thing that gets you into the truck. Yes, septagenarians want to off road and see the sights they heard about on your show while they sat in a windowless cubicle working for that retirement check. You should have a Geezer segment and one for handicapped off roaders.

It’s JATCO (Japanese automatic transmission company) its wholly owned by Nissan, always has been. Interestingly they also make manual transmissions. Hitachi is also owned by Nissan. So they make transmissions and electronics for a lot of car manufacturers.

Stop/start systems are a waste of a starter. It is too small of an increase of gas mileage to be useful.

Still want my 03 frontier back, it wasn’t a super high end model but an xe crew cab long bed with the biggest factory tires

I think your side-by-side comparison debunked the comments that the new Frontier looks like a Tacoma. It is more squared off and has a stronger, more upright grill like the Taco, but it doesn't really look like the Taco. Your comparo definitely shows Nissan had the Taco in mind when they designed the new Frontier, but as a competitor, not necessarily to be imitated, IMHO. I agree with Roman about the ludicrous destination fees, especially for a domestically assembled vehicle that doesn't have to be shipped across an ocean. Keep ranting about destination fees AND about only offering safety features and LED headlights on the upper trim levels and option packages, Roman! Power to the People! LOL ...and YES! to a NISMO Pro4X and a Pro4X Warrior. They'd kick Toyota's butt! The Frontier social media boards would go wild for those options. We also really want the Xterra to return to US shores. Please, Nissan!

Personally I’m glad it’s still hydraulic rack and pinion steering I love being able to feel the road through the steering, not a fan of the electronic steering

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

That's something good they've kept, unlike the Tacoma's drum brakes.

@c0ldyloxproductions324

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 agreed

Your comparison testing should always include the outgoing model in the side by side. THis would provide a better reference for performance, drivability and feel. Going up against competition is always cool but a replacement design should always be evaluated against its outgoing brother / sister.

@CC_Marauder

2 жыл бұрын

Oh brother re: brother/sister. Regardless of PC culture, conveyance vehicles will always remain to be referred to in the female form.

We were on a family trip up from AZ into UT earlier this week staying in Park City. My son and I spotted a tan one (on listening, Baja Storm) near the Dear Creek Reservoir area and both commented that we didn’t think they were out yet, and that they looked good and then thought no more of it until this. A presser in Sundance.

Saw one on the road yesterday, these are fantastic looking truck.

I prefer hydraulic steering over EPS; I appreciate the superior steering feel. Long time Frontier owner...

@dylanmccallister1888

2 жыл бұрын

Okay i own a 92 rocky. We come different ends of the income for our 4x4s I live in a 5th wheel, all income after bills invluding school is rocky money for oild changes and parts. Im 23 and in school. You probably live in a position in life where not only do you possibly own your property you also get to buy a new 4x4. Replacing power steering pumps and rebuilding the rack and box for a hydraulic system for somebody like me who is poor is cotsly. Very costly. Espcially since we cant afford newer cars that have mor available cheap parts. So for 60% of the population that vant afford new cars hydraulic systems are far too expensive to keep going compared to a universale/adapted electronic power assist system

@zelenizub2036

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanmccallister1888 do not like electronic driver/passenger termination devices, hydraulic for me.

@dylanmccallister1888

2 жыл бұрын

@@zelenizub2036 nice when you can get a new pump from any auto parts store or a rebuild kit for the rack. I dont drive a newer car i cant afford a $10,000 used toyota lmfao im 23 and in school. I cant just go to parts store and fix my car its 30 years old.

@robertmisiuk7137

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanmccallister1888 If you think you can't maintain a hydraulic system, once the electronic steering goes or your power cuts out, you won't be able to afford to fix or buy a replacement.

@dylanmccallister1888

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertmisiuk7137 aftermarket electronic power steering systems are cheaper and more common than you think. Its used by a lot of motorsports makes things simple.

I enjoy your videos . I watch almost every one that you make. I take your advise before making a vehicle purchase.

On my 3rd Frontier. Picked up the 2020 Pro4X the new 3.8 V6 310HP is a great engine after further review. I live in the High Sierra Nevada Desert 🏜 / mountains and the Frontier kicks ass

@dnlcast2

2 жыл бұрын

Im so jealous! I want one too!

@8474Starscream

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnlcast2 I'd be lying if I said I'm not envious of the new aesthetics...but yeah I was offered an insane deal for 2016 w/ 59k miles trade-in for the 2020 a month ago fully loaded Pro4x.....23k on the 2016 ...1500.00 rebate paid off 2016 remaining 5k balance and threw in Warranty 100k miles / 7 years...ended up financing 21k @ zero interest....If the 2020 didn't have the new engine I would have walked. I paid $28k for the 2016 SV manual in 2016....good deal

@alexpacheco6375

2 жыл бұрын

U think frontier diesel is one to consider?

@dnlcast2

2 жыл бұрын

@@8474Starscream Awesome 👌

@CC_Marauder

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnlcast2 I'm holding out for the supercharged hydrogen version. (/ eye roll) Give that shiite a rest. Deal with the here and now.

Did not plan on buying another vehicle but a storm took out my truck with a huge tree so I bought the 2024 frontier pro 4x and I love it

Nissan truck steering is awesome. My son and I agree, he had a Titan and I have a Frontier, they have the same feel. And we both think Toyota trucks are gushy. He just traded his Titan for a 2020 Raptor.

@pinky882

2 жыл бұрын

I had an 05 Xterra that drove/steered like a dream...my wife has a 2017 Rav4 and every time I drive it I ask her if the power steering is broken...drives like crap.

Great job!

Thank you for asking about the Xterra. I am holding on to my 2nd gen with the hopes of a refresh. It does make sense they will release a higher trim level after the Frontier is in garages.

I hope they retuned the ABLS on the Frontier to make it more aggressive for off roading on the Pro-4X.

Good review & great Nissan.

So, it takes a turbo to out torque this engine. So if you want the extra expense of a diesel (DEF fluid, high end oil for diesels and the extra filters) or paying more in gas for a turbo four (mileage goes down when you romp on it), the this is not your truck. They forgot to mention the Dana axles you get in the ProX and 4X. The 4X has more skid plates underneath. This video could have been shortened by 20 minutes.

I have a red alert 2024 pro4x leather and sun roof. I love that truck drives and rides great !

The ZR2 and the Tacoma only come with 30.5in tires. Only the Ranger and the Nissan come with 31.5s. Of course the Gladiator can be had with 32.7in. Nissan is fairly low volume. I think they hit the maximum market share part of the segment. Personally, I would get a Ranger Tremor if i were buying this segment but I appreciate what Nissan did.

I think I differ with Roman on over-the-air updates. I'd like auto manufacturers to build simple, reliable control systems the first time. Having continuous updates allows them to follow a "good enough" methodology, putting vehicles out the door with substandard software. In the extremely rare case where my vehicle needs a crucial update, one that I actually opt-in for, I don't mind going to the dealer (as long as they have flexible hours). There are other potential issues of having network-enabled vehicles as well.

@SnowWolf9999

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and as someone who works in Cybersecurity I am not a fan of over-the-air updates, in fact it is actually a feature that turns me away from a vehicle

Hope see the towing video soon.

my ford dealer only gets trucks in that have been factory ordered right now, they occasionally have a Ranger that comes in that lasts a day or two before its sold. superduties are the same.

Takes 12 minutes for these two to start getting to the point.

i love this podacast.

How many channels do you guys have? 😂 I keep finding more and more in the recommended

I have a 2012 Nissan Sentra S with over 224,000 miles on it. Never had an issue with the original CVT. I changed the fluid every 60,000 miles as required in the owner’s manual. Nissan is capable to be reliable as Toyota and Honda. You haters should learn how to read a manual and drive a car properly and you won’t have any problems long term.

The destination fee issue is a bit much. Yeah. I guess it's a thing a dealer can "waive" to make a buyer happy?

An after market brake controller is no big deal. Most customers woulnt tow with the truck to a level that they need an integrated trailer brake controller. Ya gotta have brakes on the trailer your towing for a trailer brake controller to be useful. The truck is wired for one so its an easy plug in under the dash, at least the previous gen is. Ive towed a bunch with my 2008 Frontier 4x4 SE crew cab long bed. Most of my towing is of my 6x12 unbraked cargo trailer but I have towed several times with a braked trailer with an aftermarket brake controller plugged into the prewired factory plug and it works great.

Read something quite interesting that Nissan is allegedly kicking around for a power plant, the Nismo upgrade. Make that an option in 2023 and it'll be quite interesting.

Nice truck!

1. Stop start sucks. Keep your 1mpg, I'll take the pleasure of not having that crap in my truck. 2. Don't need to worry about being upsold, I know I'm not walking into a Ford/GM/Stellantis dealership. 3. I prefer hydraulic steering. Here's a bonus: 4: I am also happy to manually open and close the back window if it means that I don't end up spending 50k Canadian on a mid sized truck.

@dethpig420

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I hope these things arent going to be like the Tacoma with a 40+ thousand USD price tag.

@uttamgala7186

2 жыл бұрын

@@dethpig420 That is what I’m waiting for - pricing on these. I was pretty disappointed when they went up $7,500 US in 2020. That was made the frontier amazing - simple, reliable and affordable. Sorry but I can’t get myself to spend 40k US on a mid size when I can get a 2.7 F-150 STX for the same price, which has way more power, better ride, comfort and handling as well as basically the same mpg. I understand the trims compared are totally different, but still, mid size and full size are a whole different segment and I couldn’t justify getting a mid size for that much. I can’t believe people spend as much as they do on broncos, Jeeps and gladiators etc. Could get a diesel one ton for how much some of the higher trims cost.

@gregmoessner3104

8 ай бұрын

Here we are two years later after this post. And you would be happy paying $50,000 for this truck. Inflation has gone berserk in Canada thanks to Justin Trudeau and all his crappy policies.

@uttamgala7186

8 ай бұрын

@@gregmoessner3104 Agree with you on the Canadian economy being in the gutter. That being said, I would still not spend $50k on this, or any other mid size truck. I have a 2018 F-150 that I paid $32k for in 2021 and am very happy with it. I could probably sell it for close to what I paid for it, but I wouldn't want to spend twice as much for half the truck if I went midsize now.

I’m considering it because I don’t like the turbo lag on the ranger.

Good looking truck

So glad there is NO start/stop! And I much prefer hydraulic steering in a truck. Electric steering has zero feeling and it's too light unless it's artificially generated. And my experience is it requires constant correction at crusing speeds. Hydraulic has been around forever and is dependable. Replacing electric steering is very expensive. I'm not as enamored with direct injection though and prefer port for simplicity even if it gets worse gas mileage.

I really like the look of this truck, but other than the body changes Im having trouble seeing why I shouldn't just get the 2021 model instead? Seems like it has less "chips" as they put it so there would be less likely something could go wrong.

I watched a video of the Nissan Frontier corporate slideshow and it said that it has "available wi-fi with over the air updates". Hoping that means it can perform over the air software updates.

Wait I'm confused so are all the colors the pro 4x are offered in are those colors options on the SV and S trims as well ?

Looking fwd to seeing it in person.

Funny that Nathans accident was mentioned in the context of being able to afford a replacement. Someone just slammed into the side of my Frontier about a week ago. No injuries thankfully and my truck still drivable. But I have a 2008 Frontier SE 4x4 crew cab long bed with 356,000 miles on it. Guess what. The person that hit me had Geico and they totalled my truck as it was estimated to be around $5000 in repair cost. Basically dented in some if my front passenger fender, both front and rear passenger doors and some of my rear bed side. My doors open and the truck drives aside from a needed flat tire replacement. I feel like I kinda got screwed as they said my truck was worth about $6000 and the salvage buy back was $2200 according to Geico. So now my perfectly good running truck is all bashed up and Ill have to pay to have it fixed after I buy it for the salvage which I will definititely be doing because truck prices are rediculious right now. My plan is to drive my beat up rig till the new Frontier goes on sale and then head to a dealer and try to get a good price on a 2020 with the new drive train while everyone else is lusting over the new one. Then Ill still probably fix the old 2008 myself over time on the cheap as its been an Awesome truck and I know its still got a good bit of life left in it.

you guys keep talking about the Honda ridgeline is that really considered a truck compared to The Colorado , Ranger, tacoma , frontier etc ?

Lol at death wobble......that's a solid front axle issue

@thankyou9085

2 жыл бұрын

Ford super duty and ram hd issues, Jeep Wrangler too

@Johnny_Bee

2 жыл бұрын

@@thankyou9085 yes anything with an SFA not the Nissan IFS or any other IFS for that matter.

I like the non electronic steering, leave that for cars

@JosephDragunov

2 жыл бұрын

The fabled "EMP" issue is less concerning with hydraulic steering. hahaha

The focus groups obviously did not include people who tow. Hence the missing brake controller

is the prox going to come in a king cab?

Are the rear brakes solid or vented?

Nissan needs to unveil their pricing for the 2022 Frontier, they are losing potential buyers by keeping it hush-hush. All of Nissan's competitors to the frontier have already released their pricing, what is the hold-up?

Is the turning radius any better in the new truck? Cause the old one sucks...

Lol in 1995 i had ammo can 6x9s on 20 foot leads... Made for great drive in movie movies

I wanna test drive one so bad

Hey Andre! I noticed the test vehicle had different wheels than the pre production model. Was that a change or just another option?

Does anyone know if the new frontier will have a roof rack option?

Small children and elderly parents that you chauffeur around for errands and doctor appointments. Now that's a midsized truck that doesn't look as high as the chevy, Ford and Toyota offerings.

We have been waiting. Bought the ram 1500 in January but are still looking for a mid size. Ranger and taco are out. Chevys are all right but out dated tech. Hoping to drive one of these soon.

@PremiumUserUltra

2 жыл бұрын

Taco is best. But this thing gives it a run for the money

@alexpacheco6375

2 жыл бұрын

Taco was the best until the Frontier came out., maybe the next year will the new taco, let's check which one will be the best.

@iandl9147

2 жыл бұрын

Just curious , why did you take the Ranger and Taco out? I get taking the taco out as it is really uncomfortable , but the ranger felt pretty comfy to me , just curious as I am also looking for a mid sized

@danburch8880

2 жыл бұрын

@@iandl9147 I'm a big guy with a bad back. I did like the Tacoma a lot but had to literally lean sideways to keep from hitting the roof. Also I had always thought they were American made. That's important to me. The Ranger, ... well all I can say is that we drove one and were completely underwhelmed. Lariat blacked out with the fx 4 pkg. looked great but seemed really clunky.

@iandl9147

2 жыл бұрын

@@danburch8880 thanks for the quick reply!

A long bed PRO 4X would make more sense than a PRO-X. Who would want an off road looking truck that doesn’t have 4x4?

@J.Young808

2 жыл бұрын

I think in one of the TFL videos they mentioned the PRO4X only comes in short bed like Tacoma PRO

Pro-4x: 4. wheels can spin. Pro-X: only 1 wheel spins (no rear locker capability). Hence the name usage.

Please compare interior space . Old one and new one

@andyanton4676

2 жыл бұрын

I been looking for interior dimensions

Is adaptive cruise control standard?

Bulletproof NA V6 with lower mpg over crap Turbo R4 with a bit higher mpg.

A brake controller in the truck wouldn’t help with a trailer that uses surge brakes, the brakes would be still constantly on going down hill.

GREAT NISSAN.

Will the ProX at least have an LSD?

Alex is correct. The Nissan nine-speed auto is a Daimler design, built under license by Nissan's JATCO subsidiary...

@chrisgraydon

2 жыл бұрын

So what. Nissan has better technology to make that 9 speed work amazingly that’s why they were licensed to do it right. Stop being a delusional fanboy.

@devildog5354

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgraydon I just stated a fact soyboy. Stop smoking weed. You have lost rationality...

@chrisgraydon

2 жыл бұрын

@@devildog5354 Your facts are unimportant to Nissan so they don’t care about what you say. Yes I just smoked two blunts 10 minutes ago so what?

@chrisgraydon

2 жыл бұрын

@@devildog5354 And you have lost credibility to think that Nissan makes unreliable transmissions. If Nissan was so bad in everything then why are they still in business? Everything you and everyone speaks negatively about Nissan proves idiocy and don’t know nothing. Get your failed life out the gutter.

The X class was a Navarra.

What am I missing in regards to the Frontier Pro4X? Roman stated that he feels it competes with the Tacoma TRD Off-Road but not the TRD Pro. Why is that the case? It has skid plates just like the Pro. It also has a rear locker, hill descent control, upgraded shocks, etc. Unless I am missing something it feels to me that it directly competes with the TRD Pro Tacoma.

@SnowWolf9999

2 жыл бұрын

I know the Pro has a little more clearance than the regular off-road and with it's TRD control arms allows for more articulation when rock crawling

@pieorion883

2 жыл бұрын

It’s mostly shocks. The TRD pro has fancy Fox shocks, whereas the TRD off road has bilsteins similar to the ones the Pro-4x has. Other than that, they are very similarly equipped.

@garydale8874

2 жыл бұрын

Also TRD pro has a front and rear locker

Lava Red = Chevrolet Flame Red = Yeehaw!

It's a ZF 9 speed or a jatco 9 speed? Either way usually RWD tranmissions from Nissan are decent. It's their CVT that is poorly designed and made

What do you think about the reliability about this brand?

Nissan for me

Hi is this truck available in 4x2 diesel auto for Australian

It's nice that you can select a 6' foot bed for the Nissan!🙌

@J.Young808

2 жыл бұрын

Tacomas offer that on the Double Cab too just not the PRO. All Access Cabs (extra cab) have the 6 foot bed only

Great looking truck, great engine, great interior...No manual, no thanks.

@pieorion883

2 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity, how come? I love driving a stick on cars, but I’ve never missed driving a stick on my truck. Plus, the take rate of manual trucks is so small that it just doesn’t make sense. I doubt the Tacoma will offer it in their next generation.

@wesleywilkinson4355

2 жыл бұрын

@@pieorion883 A manual is far more engaging to drive in anything. These midsize trucks also have the benefit of shifters that mount directly to the transmission without linkages or cables. While not quite sports car quality, they can actually be quite good. Then there is the reliability. I have changed clutches before, but any properly maintained manual will easily outlast the engine. As for the sales numbers, manuals rule everywhere in the world other than the US. Overall for me, Ive never driven an automatic that completely agrees with what gear I want to be in. Don"t even get me started on CVT"s!

You can tell that Roman's product knowledge is really lacking for most vehicles. Andre is the man.

@il3maui

2 жыл бұрын

Andre should give him a slap

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

Roman is just so annoying. His shtick is just "WhY iSn'T iT a BeV yEt?¿"

@uttamgala7186

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 no joke he is the worst thing about TFL. Andre nathan and mr truck/the truck king guys are where it’s at! Sometimes it seems like even tommy is embarrassed to call him dad.

Man that mpg is having me second guessing purchasing this.

@WinxownZ

2 жыл бұрын

I know… like… why… lol

@vcash1112

2 жыл бұрын

Disappointing fo cheesey

@paulwintermute1495

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly all the mid-size trucks are around 20mpg. You need to get a Maverick or Santa Cruz if you want fuel mileage and a bed or if you have $$$ you can get a hybrid or electric full size truck.

@jordanaraujo2579

2 жыл бұрын

Smiles per gallon not miles per gallon. Also follow the engine break in procedure (so you get higher volumetric efficiency), use high quality synthetic oil, and run it on 89 I get 25mpg in my 2019 4.0.

Looks the Gmc Cayon

Can you get cloth with a sunroof or is all in a package together? I want the sunroof with cloth for the orange accents

@43520tom

2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you on the cloth interior on the pro4x , it looks nicer and will stay cooler 👍

@CalebNestor

2 жыл бұрын

You can get either in the pro4x. I believe the leather is the luxury up package. I myself would prefer the cloth depending how the leather is.

"Klaus von Horsepower" lol

People care about reliability because we definitely ain't spending another 40k year over year

With $5 a gallon gas approaching rapidly, this gas guzzler will be in trouble when the new hybrid mid-sized trucks come out next year. I’m disappointed, as it checked nearly every box.

Why is it no one talks about this new engine is DI only which is proven to have carbon buildup issues?

@zanelucas512

2 жыл бұрын

Just use top tier fuel

@johnboy3100

2 жыл бұрын

@@zanelucas512 Doesn't work since it's not spraying gas on top side of valve where all the crankcase emissions are building up.....

@MrRGiller

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnboy3100 Install a catch can. That's what I did on my 2015 Silverado. Catch can works very well.

I don't want over the air updates... that means my vehciles could be disabled...

You made a point of thanking your Patreon supporters because you don't have monetisation. Then why is this video being interrupted every few minutes by annoying ads?

@anthonyc1883

2 жыл бұрын

This is a video of the audio-only podcast. The podcast alone does not have ads, but when they upload the audio and video to YT, you have kind of a standard video with the ads.

@J.Young808

2 жыл бұрын

As Roman said at the start the Podcast is not monetized while YT will monetize videos.

@ectofix8447

2 жыл бұрын

TFL has no control over that. It's KZread that does that. I've been a paying subscriber of KZread since the KZread Red days, so I never see the ads (or commercials) that you and others do. As such, I didn't get a single interruption by any ads during this entire, one hour long webcast.

Where is the roof rack?

Who puts their truck is 4wd at the boat ramp?

It's sad they removed the rails in the bottom of the bed. They were the most usefull one when I had my Frontier.

@geepuller1

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. Need to tie things down, not tie things up.

@PremiumUserUltra

2 жыл бұрын

You can add better ones

@jworthe

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And roof rails!!!!

Eps is more reliable. I've wrecked my truck bent tie rods and beat it bad off road and never had a problem with my eps. Also atvs and utvs use eps for durability off road. Not a deal breaker for sure but every vehicle I had with hydraulic power steering had problems and no problems with my truck or utvs ,atvs with eps. No changing or checking fluids no changing power steering pumps. Could be a coincidence buy doesn't seem like it.

I bought new a 2016 Dessert Runner (WHY?) to my SxS many highway miles during mostly the mild weather months. It looks cool, gets the much job done and cost about $8-10K less then a 4WD PRO-X package.

What about the roof rack? Is that an option anymore? That's what made it stand out. Still a nice truck and thank you guys for your videos!

Roman reminds me of the guy who claims he's not biased against a certain football team but every statement he makes about them is a back handed compliment at best. Geez, dude, no over the air updates, really? That's a concern of yours? No one other than Tesla owners give a darn. No electric steering? Hmm, let's see, almost everyone who actually enjoys good driving dynamics and feel prefers hydraulic steering. Electric steering has gotten worlds better but it was done for fuel economy reasons not for a better driving experience. And, yes, Roman, plenty of people know the difference, not just you. Even if they don't they know they like a certain feel regardless of how it's achieved and if hydraulic gives them that then that's what they want. You don't have to know how the widget works in order to know that you like what the widget does. And, thank God there is no stop start available. What the heck do you mean by available? If it were an option that could be left off or permanently switched off any car or truck that has it then every owner of a car that has it would have it deleted after just a couple of days. Dude these are benefits of the Frontier. Plus, know your facts before saying the Frontier or any other vehicle doesn't have things that competing vehicles have because at the end of your veiled disparaging speech you state that the Frontiers competitors "might have" the things you mentioned. So, which is it? They do have or they might have? I know. Do you? Look, despite Roman's not so hidden biases, the Frontier has been and will continue to be a great truck. The fuel economy stinks, that's true, but everything else is great and it will do anything almost any buyer will ask of it. The Tacoma and Ranger will too but for some reason only the Tacoma and Ranger get any credit for turning in their homework. And, seriously, the rock rails are accessories not something you have to buy so they would be something someone chose to put on not something for Nissan to leave off. The NV van came out in 2011, long before the Titan XD. The XD is actually based on the frame from the NV van and not the other way around. While there are several companies offering 4x4 conversions for the NV, it is Tim Dahle Nissan that makes the most factory ready version using components from the Titan XD 4x4 and working with Nissan engineering to revise the ecu to seamlessly integrate the 4x4 system into the van as if Nissan had built it this way. Why on earth Nissan didn't do something with this is beyond me. Someone else did the research and development, Nissan provided the technical integration engineering and it works flawlessly but Nissan looked and said, hmm, who would want that? The real problem with the NV van is space inefficiency. For it's overall length it has the least amount of cargo room of any full size cargo van. Yep, the driver and passenger space is great compared to most vans where the engine intrudes on the driver and front passenger space but it eats cargo space which is what these vans are actually for.

are those actually rock rails, bolted to the frame?

Diesel?