Good video for those that want to play this way, but there is no way I could do this.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yeah I get you. It's why I'm making the appeal for folks to give up just 20 minutes. Heck even 10 minutes is a huge help. Just hit 2 to 4 trivials and then start playing the game as per normal. It will boost the order without anybody going insane

We lose a lot of potential liberation due to most people hopping on, playing on or 2 missions on high difficulty and then leaving the game for IRL reasons.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

This also drastically affects things

Prime example of optimizing all the fun out of a game. It is, however, *ridiculously effective.* It's something every Helldiver should know about for suitable occassions. Personally, I prefer to combine something like this with can farming for super credits and medals. That turns the mission time into something like fifteen minutes per, which is four trivials an hour and conveniently one of the numbers he did the math for. xD

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

You can absolutely do that. Like I said at the end. Just giving up 20 minutes (or less) of game time to smash 3 to 4 trivials before playing the game during a major order is significant enough to boost things

@darkehartplays

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot It definitely is! Hell, if everybody just did ONE at the start of every session, it would still add up.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@@darkehartplays Exactly!

Man, people will optimize the fun out of everything.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

That's why I suggested just doing 2 to 4 trivials missions to avoid insanity. If everyone gave up a small bit of time to just bank a little extra liberation before going off to have fun actually playing the game. We would clear orders without hassle. It's up to the people though 🤷‍♂️

@jemandanders6160

Ай бұрын

Yes, but... It shows how valuable it can be to each just run a quick trivial while you wait for the last member of your premade to show. You got those 5 Minutes anyway.

Man if we had done this during the save the children we could have easily gotten the mines as well lol!

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

I have been teaching this for months lol. I swear people just don't watch my vids 🤣🤣🤣

It really doesn't matter too much when they can always use the invisible hand in the sky to adjust the regen rate. Basically they decide which MO gets completed

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

You believe what you want to believe mate.

great video. thank you for doing math for me, numbers suck... as do freedom hating bugs

I figured this out months ago and my friends and I have been doing it. But only 4 of us doing this doesn’t change much.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yeah pretty much the same. I can command my 200 elites to do it, but beyond that its rough lol

I did the same thing in the last 2 hrs of the Major Order to liberate Marfark. I started thinking about how to liberate the planet the fastest way possible and remembered a certain KZreadr saying it doesn't matter what difficulty you're on as long as you complete the missions, they all count the same way. I started off solo, and then I joined other missions so they could watch me do the same thing to get others to do it too. I both extracted and died after completing the missions but then decided leaving back to the ship was the fastest way. You can't repeat completed missions if you leave or the game crashes and I tried to liberate the fastest way possible. I was trying to inspire others to do the same but afterwards I decided to do it solo since joining others took much longer. I left their mission as soon as it was completed,... as far as I know, I'm the first who decided to drop on the antenna in the illegal broadcast antenna mission to complete it the fastest way possible. I believe that leaving the mission after it is completed still counts; completed is completed, dead or alive, crash or no crash, even if you hard close the game, kicked off the mission, or leaving back to the destroyer, whether the others stick around to extract or not. I joined others to help them complete the mission and then dipped to the next one for an hour then did the other hour solo,... don't care how it happened just happy to see that it caught on. Hopefully, if we ban together next time we're running out of time and we don't have enough players we can all try this together and beat Joel,... ;-P Level 82 with 300+ hrs in the game so far. Hope I see you guys trying this when it's crunch time myzteriouzjoker- out Happy Planet Liberations to All P.S. hope you give this website a visit, it has live information on what's going on,... on each active planet with missions that need liberation or are on hold even if we're about to fail the Major Order helldiverscompanion.com/

Imagine this, as a community we organize to secretly do this for 1 full weekend. 10-20k diverse all weekend doing non stop trivial. Make a beeline straight for Cyberstan, or fence the bots in like we have the bugs righ now. See if we’d be so fast, we take a bunch o planners over before arrowheads dungeon masters can react

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Lol the problem is getting those divers organized. It's nearly impossible. Hell I have around 200 under my command that's about it. So I realistically suggest just doing 2 to 4 trivials and then playing the game and having fun during major orders. It will keep your sanity and make sure the order wins. Win-win in my books if everyone participates

I’m curious, why the scorcher and not impact grenade? You land, trow one at your feet, done, faster then stratagems and even of the scorcher. Of course, I’m thinking at the “post mission”, to end faster. I’m I missing something? 🤔

@Woozizzl

Ай бұрын

Nop, does the same job.

@ilianceroni

Ай бұрын

@@Woozizzl yeah, same job but faster, as you need a couple of shoot with the scorcher, but just one impact grenade, that’s why I’m perplexed by the weapon choice. Of course, thinking to maximise efficiency etc.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

The difference between the two is minimal. I find scorcher faster by about half a second tbh lol. But you can choose whichever method works.

i liked doing this on lvl 2 difficulty, cause i needed medals for the new warbond. the missions are usually just as fast to complete, not any harder, and you get the same amount of war impact. you get twice as many medals for completing the mission, and more medals and super credits for looting the better pois. (im not sure if the pois are actually better, but there were definitely more of them, and they felt like they had loot crates/beacons more often). so its a good balance of like, grinding for war impact, and also grinding for personal currency. gives you more to do as well. you dont even have to waste time wandering the map looking for pois, you can just kill yourself and move across the map while in your hellpod. if you land next to a poi, you can loot it real fast, then kill yourself again also i liked bringing impact grenades to kill myself. you can throw one at your feet and be gone in a flash. but since you brought up fire damage, incendiary impact nades might be better

According to Devs...the squad impact we see at the game doesn't actually matter. What matters is how much experience you gain during the operation.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's what they tell you, except then it means their own system is a lie. And we would be seeing massive corrections and adjustments to the liberation rate of a planet but if you sit on the map and watch it, it ticks up fairly slowly and very consistently. So I'm willing to bet that they only said that to prevent orders being completed quickly. If they really want it based off XP, then their system should reflect that. All evidence points to the fact that their system is bull lol. At one point we were even getting the same amount of impact speed running 7s and 9s.

@jemandanders6160

Ай бұрын

If we count up the Instances of the devs telling the truth vs the interface being Shitty and wrong, th interface isn't going to win.

When you really want to get a major order done = when losing AT mines for 8th time is not fun. Jokes aside, i wonder if they gonna fix it at some point.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

I hope they do. We should be encouraged to do helldives and only helldives. Not this lol

i get it, way faster, but how long will your sanity will last doing this?

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Hell no it won't. Hence why the recommended dose is 2 to 4 trivials and then go play normally

If they remove death count and successful extraction from the career section, then I would do this. Otherwise, I have to extract for the stats.

@NthnLikeCodeine

Ай бұрын

Not a single person on this planet gives a shit about your stats lil bro

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Lol you can still extract. Go right ahead. Regardless of how you so it, I'm hoping folks will just 'bank' 2 to 4 trivials before starting their day

Interesting video. I DO Iike to actually play the game tho lol

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's why I suggested at the end. Just do 4 trivials (20 mins MAX) and then actually enjoy the game. If everyone did that. Major orders would be a cake walk. No need to waste too much time spamming. We ourselves don't do this often on stream. It's boring

@hariman7727

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot What needs buffed is mission completion and operation liberation amounts to make this ineffective in comparison with actually playing the game.

If you bring experimental infusion you could sprint across the map quicker

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

You can't stim without taking damage. So I prefer stamina to run for longer, I try to avoid that mission though lol

@jemandanders6160

Ай бұрын

It doesn't matter, even if you extract (which you should for better exp/min). They way is to short for the booster to save more then a few seconds at best. You'd need to save a full 24s for 1 more exp time bonus.

I was using this liberation for hours, just for us to lose extra Major Order.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Well yeah, it's cause you need everyone to do it haha. I banked 60 yesterday and we only gathered points while I was on. Right after we barely moved 🤣🤣

@Tonisaka

Ай бұрын

Agree, was banking so much during the stream also, but man sad sad so much effort to not get it still.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@@Tonisaka I feel that bro, I feel that haha

if everyone did this wouldn't the devs just make the next order harder?

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Not really if done in moderation tbh

@craig361

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot but your saying everyone should do this that isnt moderation

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@@craig361 As per the end of the vid. Spending up to 20 minutes of your game time doing this, is exactly moderation. It will help orders get done faster and doesn't take up an aggressive amount of time. Spamming it for hours might alter things, but a few trivial runs will act more like a slight booster. It's up to the players though honestly lol. Orders will just get tougher to complete when there are less people locked in to the game. So it's up to the peeps. I'm just showing the technique and making a recommendation.

What is the point of liberating the planet?

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

It's literally the purpose of all of us playing the game

@JayDee-vq5rf

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot My only purpose while playing a game is have fun. If I'm not having fun my minimum fee is $6,000. US per hour. Then I will have an hour to close this and play something fun.

@PajamaMan44

Ай бұрын

For democracy!

Does anyone remember when playing video games were about having fun?! 🤣

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Of course it is. That's why I recommended just clearing 2 to 4 trivials and then go have fun and do whatever. Try it during 1 order. If everyone is willing to help and gives up just a small bit of their game time, things will go super smooth. Up to the people though 🤷‍♂️

@EdWobble

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot the main issue why the Major Order struggles to get done is the miscommunication with Helldivers as a whole. Today 30,OOO helldivers were on Marsek and 30, OOO helldivers were fighting bugs for some odd reason.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@@EdWobble Nah, it's cause people don't know how much liberation they're contributing and why it's ineffective.

@EdWobble

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot 30k players on the wrong planet isn't hasn't any effect on the MO? Come on! 60k on one planet helps more than 30k. If it doesn't then the game has gone from fun to this backdoor crap.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@@EdWobble Well, can you force 30,000 players to do one thing? The bug divers will ALWAYS bug dive. that's a known fact, so that's why this backdoor crap has to exist. It's literally impossible to get shit done without a few shady techs :P

This is checkers vs devs chess. They set goals based on what we complete. If every person did this then the devs have a higher expectation for what we can accomplish and would mean more of this mind numbing strategy for our major orders to be completed. I want those goals based on playing the game instead of doing chores.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Up to you, to me, I feel that we should always contribute a bit with trivials to boost the order. We simply don't have the numbers to overcome most orders otherwise and peeps have been farming this like hell for many orders so others can have fun. I'd rather start a movement for everyone to do a bit of their part

@Phonzie23

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot Doing this you are causing inflation of the difficulty of the next major order. You see the logic in the argument right?

@jemandanders6160

Ай бұрын

@@Phonzie23 Rather then making the MOs harder, the devs would probably see how many solo trivials where done in the timeframe and readjust the skaling of contribution to devalue trivial and easy contributions.

@Phonzie23

Ай бұрын

@@jemandanders6160 yeah, but i doubt that’s a high priority on their list

Who does this

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Everyone should. If peeps were willing to give up just 20 minutes of game time to hit 2 to 4 trivials before playing as per normal. Orders would clear super fast

ok the game should not work like that that sad

@DroosterH

Ай бұрын

I mean, you're not really gaining anything this way. No samples, no credits, least amount of medals. But when players absolutely REFUSE to play bot MOs then this seems a decent way to bump up liberation.

@jemandanders6160

Ай бұрын

It really should not. The fact that soloing trivials gives you more Exp/Min then solving Helldives as a group is... really weird.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

It shouldn't work this way at all. I agree. We should get way more points for finishing a helldive operation

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

That's really all it's for. Just slam 2 to 4 trivials and play the game as you like. If everyone did that. Orders would be done and no one would go insane lol

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's dumb, but that's how it goes

This is ridiculously boring and unfun as a way to play... and I'm still tempted to do a couple like this just to liberate faster.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Just give up 15 to 20 minutes. That's 3 to 4 runs and that's more than enough to help 😁👍

First?

This doesn't work due to the less amount of liberation points you get after the mission compared to a 5 or higher mission. Just play the game bro 😂

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Diff 5 you need to clear a full operation to get the liberation points. You try this experiment. Do 20 minutes of trivial missions and the try to finish a FULL operation of diff 5 in 20 minutes. Good luck. You can test the difference in squad impact for yourself 😏😏. Post your results on KZread. I'll wait. Your raw footage should be at least 40 minutes long if you can beat the time 😏😏

@jemandanders6160

Ай бұрын

1. Liberation is earned by operation, not mission. 2. Liberation is not scaled to the amount of players in an operation. So above easy you have to clear multiple missions fast enough to add up to whatever speedrunning trivials amounts to. If you want to base it on the bullshit numbers the game shows: The lowest you can get is a 1, though I've never seen lower then 2 personally. Let's say you can burn a Helldive Operation (3 Missions) in a record time of 30 minutes (like a good 40min, 1 eradicate and 1 blitz). That op would need to generate 6 Liberation per Member to compete, or 24 in total. The highest I have ever seen is 15 for a full team of four with a cleartime of about 1 hour. If we ingored what the game shows and calculate based on Exp: If you can't solo 7 and up, forget it. You won't come close to those 35xp/min.