Helldivers 2 // Railgun Revisited - Terminid Coop Helldive - All Clear, No Deaths

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4-player Coop Helldive, Max Difficulty Lvl 9, all objectives (Main + Optional) completed, all nests destroyed, no deaths
Modifiers: Tremors
Planet: Fori Prime
Patch version: 1.000 203
Out with new, in with the old...feels like forever since I've seen someone run the old Breaker + Railgun combo, so I thought I'd try it out again, though having used the default Breaker recently, I thought I'd try the buffed Breaker Spray & Pray instead.
The Breaker Spray & Pray performs very admirably, its firerate, spread and magazine size excelling at taking on those dangerous swarms of smaller enemies like Hunter packs, though lacking the burst damage of the default Breaker for tougher enemies. It's pretty comparable to the fan-favourite Incendiary Breaker, with a little less damage but a little faster firerate and without the threat of ricochets lighting teammates on fire. Perhaps a little buff to its mag size vs the Incendiary Breaker would help differentiate the two weapons a little more.
The Railgun has slid down the rankings as a heavy-killer - whereas it used to be the fastest way to take down Chargers with the classic 2 leg shots then primary finisher, that kill is now much slower, requiring full unsafe charged shots, and comparing unfavourably with the insta-headshots of stuff like EATs, Recoiless Rifle, and Quasar.
However, unlike those anti-tanks specialists, the Railgun also has the ammunition to be used for one-shotting medium fare like Brood Commanders, Hiveguards, and Bile Spewers - perfect for plugging the weaknesses of the Breaker Spray & Pray. Perhaps a better comparison would be allrounder support weapons like the Autocannon, which has a similarly tricky Charger kill (matador then unload on the back), a stationary reload vs the Railgun's reload on the go, a backpack vs the Railgun's free slot, and can take down Fabricators / Bug Holes but cannot penetrate Titan armour like the Railgun can.
If you look at it as an allrounder, the Railgun does feel like a decent bug weapon then - in coop, most of the time I'll be beaten to the Charger kill by a teammate with a Quasar, but that's ok if the Railgun can also deal with things like Bile Spewers that the Quasar is too slow for. I wouldn't say no to some buff still, perhaps a slight damage increase to make the leg kills fasster with 2 unsafe but not quite fully charged shots would feel fair, or perhaps better ability to penetrate through multiple enemies for better trash clear.
The Railgun is also still very useful vs the Bots - I have another run showing that side of things coming out tomorrow.
Big thanks to my teammates on this one, Inexorable Warrior (‪@inexorablewarrior‬ aka crackshot with the supply drop) and Raven11!
If you're looking to join us for some coop games, or do runs with other like-minded players, check us out on Warrior's discord: / discord
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Build:
Breaker Spray & Pray covers most of my trash-killing needs, excelling at large swarms of the smaller enemies. Against medium enemies, I'll be using the Railgun which can one-shot Hiveguards, Brood Commanders and Bile Spewers - not too shabby.
For Chargers, I'll clear as much of the area of trash enemies as possible, then go for the old leg kill - Stun nades help with locking them down if needed. If it's getting too busy, I won't hestitate to whip out the Railcannon Strike, though I also have free Eagle 110 pods on this mission from the Operation. The Grenade Pistol means I still have a way of closing Bug Holes.
With the Railcannon Strike matching the Railgun theme, I decided to bring the Orbital Airbust as my orbital Breaker - this thing has a surprisingly short cooldown, and is really useful for opening up on an objective or throwing ontop of a bug breach to wipe out lightly armoured enemies - just don't expect it to do much vs the heavies unless their armour's been stripped. For Titans and the like, the trusty 500kg is always ready.
The Medic armours are pretty amazing - the extended duration on the stims means you can stim for a brief period of near-invulnerability, letting you take on packs of enemies that would otherwise tear you to shreds in seconds. I'm going with the medium armour to make sure I tank the hits that get through before the stim kicks in, with enough mobility to kite those bugs.
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00:00 Intro
00:15 Insertion, Nest 1, Stalker Lair, Spore Spewer, Research Station, Uplink 1 / Supply drop kill no.1
09:40 Radar, Nest 2, Clearing Evac, Nest 3, Spore Spewer / Double Supply drop kill!
21:00 Nests 4 & 5, Uplink 2 / "That was a little too close"
31:20 Evacuation / "The Helldivers are here!"
38:00 Extraction / Backup...need backup
41:30 Mission Stats

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  • @andreayton1993
    @andreayton19933 ай бұрын

    I literally searched “spiked railgun” and this video released an hour ago 😭🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @andayfqs5909
    @andayfqs59093 ай бұрын

    Have been tracking your content for a month, really enjoying them.

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Professional

  • @freelounge6001
    @freelounge60013 ай бұрын

    The crossbow is all about depositing enough explosive power quickly over a small POI to completely clear it out and avoid alerts. It's particularly good at that, in situations where you'd still be cycling the bolt on the Eruptor while that flare goes up. You have to make use of its fire rate to get the most out of it, so you need situations where you want to take out 2-3 scout striders and a handful of basic troopers before they can react. It also 1-shots scout striders from the front very reliably, so it's good against the most common type of bot patrol. Just, uh, definitely don't forget that you have it equipped and use it against something close up...

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Good breakdown! Definitely something you can use more like a traditional primary than the Eruptor, which feels more specialist.

  • @CloudyB_MT

    @CloudyB_MT

    3 ай бұрын

    I've been running the crossbow/jump pack this past month and been having a blast with it. Fighting termids is a cake walk.

  • @ninjacow
    @ninjacow3 ай бұрын

    Literally booted up KZread to look specifically for a current Railgun run and the GOAT's video pops up on the FRONT PAGE.

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Another one coming tomorrow :)

  • @Luler-l8t

    @Luler-l8t

    3 ай бұрын

    More railgun coming tommorow?!

  • @saltire_2825
    @saltire_28253 ай бұрын

    Nice to see someone using the breaker spray n pray

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I know a couple of people who love it but seems to have flown under the radar even after the buff.

  • @1duubbz
    @1duubbz3 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love getting home from work and a new video is posted for me to unwind to!!! THANKS

  • @tinybike
    @tinybike3 ай бұрын

    RAILGUN LET'S GO! I did a solo helldive with it for primary objectives only and the whole time I was thinking, I bet Spiked could do an all clear with this...

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    So too can you! What's a few extra objectives and outposts ;)

  • @king_eziel
    @king_eziel3 ай бұрын

    Love these videos, great material to learn from. Finally seeing a death is entertaining, confirms we're playing the same game. 😂

  • @E3.20
    @E3.203 ай бұрын

    23:00 Your accuracy with the grenade pistol from distance is inspiring. I have been underestimating the drop significantly in my games.

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    I have my moments :P

  • @Plunderbuss
    @Plunderbuss3 ай бұрын

    This man makes any build playable, absolute chad.

  • @sethcourtemanche5738
    @sethcourtemanche57382 ай бұрын

    I love how tactical you guys are

  • @SpoonRacing20
    @SpoonRacing203 ай бұрын

    Dude I love your stuff, you and your crew are awesome!

  • @kaotic_9718
    @kaotic_97183 ай бұрын

    Really Enjoying these- think this is the content lots of people are looking for. The CO-OPs appeasl to both casuals and sweats.

  • @KenobiSon
    @KenobiSon3 ай бұрын

    I recently unlocked the Spray & Pray shotgun and been using it. That thing shreds! Par it with an anti-armor and your set! Why don't more people user this thing?

  • @king_eziel

    @king_eziel

    3 ай бұрын

    I've enjoyed the incendiary breaker so much that I didn't think to try Spray and Pray.

  • @grumblekin
    @grumblekin3 ай бұрын

    A teammate and I paired up with a newbie on a level 6 and wiped the entire map clean using Quasars to knock dropships out of the sky. The new guy had his HMG and took care of the trash mobs and I was doing some good work with the Senator as learned from your videos. Thanks for the lessons! We had a random level 31 blast a teammate on extraction...and I was the host. How did he think I wasn't going to kick him? Fortunately, that is getting rarer and rarer.

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad the videos helped :). And yeah, sucks that there's always people like that in every game, but you can always some justice, Super Earth style :)

  • @krasusable
    @krasusable3 ай бұрын

    Oh, you nailed them Terminids well! Thanks for the meal!

  • @user-gq2xf3pf7i
    @user-gq2xf3pf7i2 ай бұрын

    I have just understand how much time you spend on every video, while reading description) Wish you great growth, commander

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, glad you appreciate it :)

  • @sobri1998
    @sobri19983 ай бұрын

    Another brilliant video, I cant imagine bringing anything other than the breaker incendiary though! If even one pellet hits a hunter and it catches fire, no matter the range, theyre dead. You can take out like 10+ Hunters in only a couple of shots and as soon as they're on fire you can just ignore them since they'll be dead in like 2 seconds. Plus lots more ammo than the breaker. Just more damage per shot really.

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, fair point. Feel like they could do another little rebalance to distinguish their role a little further. Tbh I was surprised that they kept buffing all the fire stuff, they were already strong and now even moreso.

  • @sobri1998

    @sobri1998

    3 ай бұрын

    @newspiked7385 Yeah I'm basically only bringing the class your brought into the fire buff test video. So much fun, other than the titans there's nothing to worry about

  • @VaderHater1993

    @VaderHater1993

    3 ай бұрын

    @@newspiked7385I think it absolutely has to do with the DOT bug they were not aware of.

  • @phdbot4483
    @phdbot44833 ай бұрын

    Dang! You made the nerfed railgun look good with the way you used it, lol! I also liked the use of the free rockets pods. I know they're better against bots, but they can still be nice to have for finishing off those Bile Titans if the 500kg doesn't.

  • @jacobbragg1032
    @jacobbragg10323 ай бұрын

    Wow you said you had some railgun coop but this is fast af. 🎉🎉🎉

  • @phantomeye5199
    @phantomeye51993 ай бұрын

    Wow. That was amazing! Awesome!

  • @Mythoatissodry
    @Mythoatissodry3 ай бұрын

    You're my favorite player rn everyone else is not as skilled as you

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    You're too kind, definitely more skilled players out there tho :)

  • @mrhaast5053
    @mrhaast50533 ай бұрын

    4:50 This is quite possibly my most hated glitch in the game.

  • @ricardonegron3209
    @ricardonegron32093 ай бұрын

    The silence at the end, he was locked in for sure! XD

  • @dazzake7431
    @dazzake743111 күн бұрын

    Collecting Samples is my favorite pastime.

  • @bluemew6457
    @bluemew64573 ай бұрын

    I wish I could like the railgun, but it’s really just not great. It needs some love. When they nerfed it back in the first balance patch, they talked about the “fantasy” of weapons, which is a concept that I really like. Right now, though, I genuinely cannot tell what fantasy the railgun is trying to live up to. It needs a buff that gives it some personality, some real niche for it to fill. Also, no matter what they do, they need to give it a better scope. That green dot is abysmal, I think they should give it a crosshair with at least some zooming capabilities, and a better way to see the gauge in third person. Also, on the topic of the xbow, one of your friends said they took a fabricator out through the door. I doubt the xbow is what did it, I think an mg or assault raider probably spawned as the shot landed, detonating the backpack which then destroyed the fabricator. I do think it should be able to destroy spawners, given its high drop which would force you to get close, unlike the Eruptor. I also wish the xbow was one handed, because I want more primaries to pair with the ballistic shield, and having a fabricator killer replace my Defender would be much more valuable to me than having it replace my Senator.

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    I think they could lean into the penetration aspect a little more and increase the damage a little bit so you don't need a full charge (but still need unsafe), just to speed up the Charger kill a tiny bit. Scope improvement would be nice too, don't think it would step on AMR's toes since you still need to charge up the shot. One-handed xbow could be nice too, it does look on the small side for a primary so I can imagine it being fired one-handed.

  • @bluemew6457

    @bluemew6457

    3 ай бұрын

    @@newspiked7385 I think the nerf to penetration wasn’t bad, but the reduction to damage absolutely was. I’d like to see pre-nerf damage on the railgun, as well as faster charge times in unsafe mode. This will speed the weapon up so it can kill things in less than 5 years while still maintaining the high risk nature, as you’ll have even less time to take your shot before you explode. A slight buff to penetration might also be nice, but I think going back to its original power would just reintroduce the original issue of unsafe mode being pointless. If its safe mode pen is buffed, I think it should have pen 4 in safe mode (it’s at pen 3 right now). Perhaps introducing a unique mechanic to the railgun’s projectile might also improve it, but I’m not sure what that mechanic might be.

  • @Ide23424

    @Ide23424

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@newspiked7385 two fully charged headshots to kill a charger would be the sweet spot IMO, still slower than EAT/Qausar but overall more flexible, and if the crossbow had alt fire between incendiary or explosive shots, I'd be happy.

  • @franzoloranzo7302
    @franzoloranzo73023 ай бұрын

    I love how in unsafe mode, you can just blow up warriors

  • @scorpion563
    @scorpion5633 ай бұрын

    9:29 ye that bug is rough, luckily I haven't seen it happen in any solo games yes, though if it did that would be a very frustrating soft lock

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Had the Uplink ones mess up on a coop game too, no one could summon an SSD to put into the tower so we were locked out. Pretty rare though, thankfully.

  • @Hexblithe
    @Hexblithe3 ай бұрын

    Orbital Airburst on top of bug breaches doing work! Meanwhile, Rocket Pods are just begging to be switched out for the ol' faithful Eagle Airstrike xD In your humble opinion, apart from having the non-ADS aiming reticle, is there anything the Railgun can consistently do better then the AMR? I'm asking because I have almost zero Railgun experience, and what experience I do have is... ... unpleasant... Awesome video tho :D Where was your #2 fellow tho?

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, really like the airburst for bug breaches, think I should hold off a little longer before throwing them for maximum kills. Pods are no Airstrike, but at least they're free! For bugs I think the Railgun has the ability to strip Charger armour and finish off Bile Titans through their armour. You can do ass kills with the AMR but it can be tricky. For Bots I think AMR can take on anything the Railgun can, and more IMO. Not sure what was going on with player 2, the player queue just being weird I guess!

  • @mefytwa2867
    @mefytwa28673 ай бұрын

    About the crossbow topic at the beginning, I would like to add my 2 cents :) I think it's unfair everyone says it basically sucks because it can't close holes / fabricator. It was released along the Eruptor so I see where it's coming from but Scorcher, Jar5, Punisher plasma are explosive and don't close stuff and it's fine ; tbh the Eruptor is more the impostor on that specificity A few comparisons between the two guns for people that may have a hard time appreciating the Crossbow and would like to (I really loved it but I won't act as it is a top tier gun either) : - Eruptor does a ton of noise. Not only the crossbow is really stealthy, the other one is really loud so the difference is even more significant - Eruptor seems to have an angle, I saw some shots bouncing on the ground / ennemies. Doesn't happen so often and it can be avoided when you are aware of it but still.. the crossbow what it touches it goes boom - Eruptor stops at 125m, the projectile will self destruct. It is not really a point to give to the Crossbow because even it you can shoot further away than the Eruptor the projectile is slower and the drop is huge. You could but it will hard to shoot at distance. - Eruptor has terrible handling and RoF compared to the Crossbow - Idk if it's a bug, but the aoe of the Eruptor sucks you in.. which sucks big time when it happens That's all I can think of, even if Crossbow has stealth and sounds like a good feature to bring against automaton, I tried and didn't like it so much.. I started to try the gun on Terminids Defense and then played it on more "classic" missions. You may want to try Defense if you want to build up some love for it If my opinion would matters on balancing in general, I'd say what the crossbow should have as a buff is maybe +2 in the mag (they could reduce the number of mags in reserve, I don't want to see more total ammo but just more per mag, it reloads a bit too often imo) And that would be it, they could transfer more of its damage from the arrow itself to the aoe, make it a one handed weapon or even add utility to close stuff ; but I think just a bit more per mag would really be enough

  • @freelounge6001

    @freelounge6001

    3 ай бұрын

    Crossbow is all about that ambush ability. Quickly take out everything standing around a POI, no alerts. You have to make use of its fire rate to get the most out of it. Also one-shots scout striders very reliably!

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    All good points! It's one of those weapons that I know objectively is strong, but for whatever reason I haven't clicked with yet, it might even be purely an aesthetic thing. Just gotta give it another go!

  • @mefytwa2867

    @mefytwa2867

    3 ай бұрын

    @@newspiked7385 And it's fine! I am on a journey trying to appreciate the Punisher Plasma as so many people claim it is insane, but I was not able to click with it yet. I guess some weapons may just not be for everyone :D

  • @01_zenyobi

    @01_zenyobi

    3 ай бұрын

    Crossbow can blind shot behind while jogging, even though it's not marked as single hand weapon.

  • @user-iq7yi4me2i
    @user-iq7yi4me2i3 ай бұрын

    레일건 진짜 오랜만에 봅니다... 또 실력이.... 이야.... 제군은 민주주의의 상징이다..... 14:08 ~ 15:05🔥

  • @aceloth
    @aceloth3 ай бұрын

    Having to use stratagems to take out chargers …That railgun is next to useless

  • @herny2991
    @herny29913 ай бұрын

    15:10 Do you have any insight into how rocket pods target? Usually they behave well for me, but I've definitely noticed them do some wonky shit in the past. Like missing a titan standing 5 meters from the beacon. I would love to know if it's just a skill issue on my part. Also love the content, keep being awesome 😎

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    I think they lock on the same as the Railcannon, but the angle it comes at depends on where in the map you throw it, the further from the centre, the more angled the approach, which can make it miss I guess. Think it's more reliable vs the Bots where stuff like Fabricators and Tanks are big, slow / static targets that it just won't miss, against Titans and especially Chargers it's more hit and miss.

  • @herny2991

    @herny2991

    3 ай бұрын

    @@newspiked7385 That definitely makes sense. Could maybe get blocked by terrain too since it's angled. Also awesome for the bots because they one shot tanks :)

  • @Bloodless479
    @Bloodless4793 ай бұрын

    At 38:35 , How does that Titian take a 500kg to the face and not die!?!?

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    I've heard the AoE isn't a sphere centred on the bomb but more like a Cone / bottom half of a sphere, so it's much better at hitting stuff above it than on the same level / to the side. Whatever the reason, I feel like it needs some tweaks.

  • @jonnycarr6294
    @jonnycarr62943 ай бұрын

    I’m a little confused. It looks like you have 5 stratagems?

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    It was a temporary reward for completing an Op from Joel, think it was for a day or two.

  • @petergriffinson1907
    @petergriffinson19073 ай бұрын

    Is the spray and pray better than the incendiary?

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    They're pretty similar in performance, Incendiary has a little more going for it thanks to the DoT damage

  • @diswazzi1683
    @diswazzi16833 ай бұрын

    38:36 this fucking game...

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    When a hit is too direct :P

  • @saqoh
    @saqoh3 ай бұрын

    0:45 how you did use the GL pistol without using any of the ammo

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    There's a bug where the GL Pistol with the maxed ammo booster gets an extra round when you first spawn in, only the first mag gets that extra round.

  • @amos999999
    @amos9999993 ай бұрын

    Breaker spray and pray feels so weak

  • @TheZoomr
    @TheZoomr3 ай бұрын

    Hi, can u link graphic options?

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Mine are just default!

  • @TheZoomr

    @TheZoomr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@newspiked7385 thx

  • @kousseye155
    @kousseye1552 ай бұрын

    How do u have 5 stratagems??

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    2 ай бұрын

    Temporary bonus from Joel for completing a major order.

  • @titoslounge1946
    @titoslounge19463 ай бұрын

    3:37 Wait do Rocket Pods track on enemies? The strategem beam was pretty far from the titan.

  • @ellisholden7247

    @ellisholden7247

    3 ай бұрын

    Correct, that’s really their primary attribute is that they aim for the largest target in the vicinity similar to the orbital rail cannon. Though getting a direct hit that clean is about as rare as things get

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, tracks but the projectiles itself seem to miss from time to time, the railcannon almost never misses

  • @bluemew6457

    @bluemew6457

    3 ай бұрын

    110mm rocket pods track the biggest enemy in the area. They tend to struggle if the enemy is moving quickly or has a small top-down profile (such as a charging charger or a hulk existing), though. They are best used to destroy bot fabricators, cannon turrets, tanks, and factory striders (which they damage). Against bugs, they will kill chargers if they land, and can kill BTs but will usually only break their armor, if they land at all.

  • @titoslounge1946

    @titoslounge1946

    3 ай бұрын

    @@newspiked7385 definitely gonna have to run these more often knowing this

  • @CrownsEnd1
    @CrownsEnd13 ай бұрын

    So what is your own judgement, would you say there was any situation in this run where the Railgun was just right?

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    It was good for medium enemies, and for Charger kills when my strats were on cooldown - using a dedicated AT or trash clear support wepaon would leave me wanting for one or the other, and using the AC would mean no Rover. I just think the Charger kill could be sped up a little bit with a damage / AP boost - e.g. maybe 2x 75% charge to strip a leg for the primary finisher, or 2x full charge to take out the head - that would bring it more in line with how quickly an Autocannon can take out a Charger, and you still have the charge up time and risk of killing yourself to offset the reward.

  • @slammer4cows720
    @slammer4cows7203 ай бұрын

    I feel like you only put “no deaths” in the title if nobody on your team dies

  • @newspiked7385

    @newspiked7385

    3 ай бұрын

    I put "No Team Deaths" for that

  • @colinjones1610
    @colinjones16103 ай бұрын

    Turn off camera shake

  • @CatMeow-fn9ko
    @CatMeow-fn9ko3 ай бұрын

    Rip samples

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