Helios 44m-7 buying tutorial. How to avoid SCAM!

Detailed explanation how to distinguish genuine helios 44m-7 from a fake one.
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  • @Dravde
    @Dravde3 жыл бұрын

    One should also check the year of production. Genuine 44M-7 will have the production number that starts with 91 or a bigger number, referencing the year of production.

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, exactly thanks for your input

  • @jpcalamaro961
    @jpcalamaro9613 жыл бұрын

    Very useful material. Concise and to the point. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @carlosfundora5324
    @carlosfundora53243 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos! They've been very helpful!

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @jonlouis2582
    @jonlouis25823 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I will just avoid fakes by continuing to buy from your ebay store.

  • @ZisDimitris4444
    @ZisDimitris4444 Жыл бұрын

    Again a very informative presentation,thank you again,i appreciate it 👍📷📢!

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei Жыл бұрын

    You say they started production in 1991 and I have seen lenses with serial numbers starting with 96 so that would mean 5 years of production, not just 1 or 2 years. Also, the lenses from 94 and later have a plastic name ring that's clipped in instead of a metal ring with 2 holes that's screwed in.

  • @Von_McKnelly
    @Von_McKnelly3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great info sir.

  • @stevocem
    @stevocem2 жыл бұрын

    Very useful video, thank you.

  • @sebsyoutubechannel4252
    @sebsyoutubechannel42523 жыл бұрын

    YES you made the video thank you! :)

  • @miriammoriarty8588
    @miriammoriarty85883 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou, this is very helpful.

  • @d30gaijin
    @d30gaijin3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. Very informative.

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @messylaura
    @messylaura3 жыл бұрын

    excellent video.

  • @stefanjr
    @stefanjr3 жыл бұрын

    Great! Thx! I also noticed another difference: On 44m-7 the barrel around the rear optics has no grooves (only the fitting ring for the rear optics has). On for example 44m both barrel AND fitting ring has grooves.

  • @arboldechorizos
    @arboldechorizos3 ай бұрын

    is it possible for the front ring to NOT have the unscrewing holes? i see in your video both genuine lenses with and without the holes

  • @kaneda8625
    @kaneda86257 ай бұрын

    In your opinion what version is the best? 44-2, 44-3 etc or? I read the best is the 44-2 for its magic

  • @cheesepoorger
    @cheesepoorger3 жыл бұрын

    thank you comrade

  • @chicobraz4335
    @chicobraz43352 жыл бұрын

    Great video ! Do all the Helios 44-2 to 44-7 have same optical design and glass sizes and parts ? Also which version has least swirls ( I heard 6 and 7 have best image and least swirls )

  • @himangshumahanta5398

    @himangshumahanta5398

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no difference in swirls between the Helios 44 range.

  • @liscvideo

    @liscvideo

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@himangshumahanta5398yes there is

  • @akbunny5221
    @akbunny52213 жыл бұрын

    thank you .......

  • @TheSuphan
    @TheSuphan3 жыл бұрын

    Thank You

  • @kris.krustev
    @kris.krustev3 жыл бұрын

    Hi! Would it be possible make a buying guide for the different versions/types of the 44m modification?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5if1qOCcdiyd5c.html

  • @dopexmc7901
    @dopexmc7901Ай бұрын

    is there something going on with the 44-2 as well? and if so how can you be sure you have a authentic one?

  • @sneakingelephant
    @sneakingelephant Жыл бұрын

    Is buying from the Helios lens site get legitimate copies?

  • @menelaospolitis1226
    @menelaospolitis12262 жыл бұрын

    THX! I hope I have a legit one. Are there different focus rings? My focus ring is like the one on 1:42 min.

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    2 жыл бұрын

    i think yes, though this kind of focus ring is not very common

  • @xXBlackHawk1912Xx
    @xXBlackHawk1912Xx3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, i have an early version of the Helios 44 in silver and with an m39 mount. But instead of the usual 13 blades for this model, it has 8. Can you tell my what this could mean?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    it is normal. Both versions exist. 13 blades and 8 blades.

  • @timelesstimekeeper4444
    @timelesstimekeeper44443 жыл бұрын

    Hello, first of all thank you for great quality videos, have learned a lot. I have bought Helios 44m-7 year 94. I guess its a fake one. Still I want to use it and fix it. It seems that spring that moves aperture blades in their position is not strong enough to close aperture (it works with a bit of help) - so it would be good to clean and lubricate it first. Also focusing ring is hard to turn. The problem is that front ring does not have those 2 holes to put something in(like caliper) and turn it. I can rotate it with fingers about 30degrees, then it does not rotate anymore. I tried to turn with rubber gasket around front ring, but still does not turn more than 30 degrees. Now thinking about drilling 2 holes in front ring for caliper as the last resort. Your advice would be much appreciated.

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    i think there aare pair of clips that hold that plastic ring onto it's place

  • @chesiq_

    @chesiq_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RetroFotoHouse I have an exact same lens, is the plastic front ring a giveaway that it's a fake lens?

  • @Ni5ei

    @Ni5ei

    Жыл бұрын

    If the serial number starts with 94, how can it be fake? There were no other 44M-x lenses produced in 94. Also, the later production models have a plastic front ring without holes. This was done to cut costs.

  • @tunaelbas3441
    @tunaelbas34413 жыл бұрын

    Hello RFH Can you make a video about lubrication of INDUSTAR 61 L/Z? Mine is getting sticky :( and Aperture is oily I found some russian articles about how to do it but I don't speak Russian and translation is not good. Also it's hard to understand

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will come in the future for sure

  • @razbiton173
    @razbiton1732 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I found 44 m7 that doesn’t have those 2 holes before the HELIOS font and factory symbol marking. Is it fake?

  • @jianchenglu6584

    @jianchenglu6584

    Жыл бұрын

    i found the similar ones too

  • @markashworth983
    @markashworth9832 жыл бұрын

    Good video! What is a reliable place where I could buy an authentic copy of this lens?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    2 жыл бұрын

    well, you can seek on ebay, using my video as manual

  • @vincenzotarantini8161
    @vincenzotarantini81613 жыл бұрын

    So, if I get well, the main difference in the front is the shape of “O”, the original one has a “O” with square angles; correct?!

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, one of the main differencies

  • @robfontenot6439

    @robfontenot6439

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look closely at the number "2" on the front ring... The difference is subtle, but once you recognize it, it's one of the easiest ways to spot if the forgery is based on a non-original front ring swap.

  • @alexblaze8878
    @alexblaze8878 Жыл бұрын

    This implies the 44m-4 is bad? I have that version and I love it! Can anyone tell me why the implication that the 44m-4 isn’t good?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    Жыл бұрын

    It is not bad, but you're buying 44m-7 wich is more expensive than 44m-4, isn't it?

  • @federicomuciaccia9191
    @federicomuciaccia91913 жыл бұрын

    I have the right font height, but the front plate is missing the two little holes to unscrew it. is it normal?

  • @federicomuciaccia9191

    @federicomuciaccia9191

    3 жыл бұрын

    and another strange thing is this: the front plate turns completely, but cannot exit in any way. it's endlessly unscrewing...

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, this is normal. You have the latest version, to make production costs lower, they decided to make plastic front ring with a clips instead of thread

  • @federicomuciaccia9191

    @federicomuciaccia9191

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for the reply :) and where are the clips located? how can I remove the from plate?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    with plate screwdriver you need to pick it up from below

  • @federicomuciaccia9191

    @federicomuciaccia9191

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you! I'll try it soon ;)

  • @yuriythebest
    @yuriythebest4 ай бұрын

    -What is the advantage of converting 44m's to 44m-7s and selling them? They cost around the same and the image quality is according to taste. I've been able to get beautiful images from my 44m -The easiest way to avoid a scam I think is to buy a helios+zenit combo

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    4 ай бұрын

    No, helios 44m-7 is more rare and therefore more expensive one

  • @slrzd2187
    @slrzd21873 жыл бұрын

    Hey, mine is 44m 4 f2 58mm but it has Russian font is it genuine ?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, helios 44m can be found in russian writings, they are genuine

  • @steven1811
    @steven1811 Жыл бұрын

    I picked up a 44-7 the other day from a yard sale. The serial number starts with 82. I hope this isn't a fake.

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    Жыл бұрын

    you need to watch attentively my video to understand which one is a fake

  • @motosiklet7656
    @motosiklet76564 ай бұрын

    There is a photo of a woman's face in the video May I know which camera you used to shoot with a helios lens?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    4 ай бұрын

    Sony A7

  • @motosiklet7656

    @motosiklet7656

    4 ай бұрын

    @@RetroFotoHouse Sony A7 1 , Sony A7 2 , Sony A7 C ?

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    4 ай бұрын

    @@motosiklet7656 Sony A7 1

  • @motosiklet7656

    @motosiklet7656

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much @@RetroFotoHouse

  • @TheXxPSYCHO
    @TheXxPSYCHO2 жыл бұрын

    Love how his intos are loud af then he's whisper quiet with random loud mic plosives

  • @janfrosty3392
    @janfrosty33923 жыл бұрын

    The link to your https is broken, I get a following message: This page does not exist. Please continue to shop on eBay

  • @RetroFotoHouse

    @RetroFotoHouse

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've fixed link, now it is working, sorry

  • @HuiNie
    @HuiNie3 жыл бұрын

    i got a 44-7 92470916 in china xinjiang

  • @califmike2003
    @califmike20038 ай бұрын

    very confusing video, so how do i know whats real ????????

  • @orangebetsy

    @orangebetsy

    7 ай бұрын

    the real one won't be fake and the fake one won't be real

  • @sambiswas1265
    @sambiswas12652 жыл бұрын

    Hi from INDIA, how can I contact you personally.