Taken from iFlight's Facebook Group: "If you get Jello on your helion please make the following changes to your PIDs page in betaflight. So far this has fixed everyone’s problems. It appears the problem is their is slightly too much P term on the tune to compensate for all rigs in our default tune. So far this has fixed all the issues on every drone we tried with jello. Change your Damping slider (D gains) - to 1.5 Pitch Damping (pitch, roll D) - to 1.0 Pitch Tracking (pitch, roll, P,I,& FF) - to 1.0 Master Multiplier - to 1.7 Change your Iterm relax to 5 (from 8 )" Hope that fixes the jello problem if you have it!

@CRAGLORD

3 ай бұрын

Ive done all this and more and tried multiple props and all batteries and battery placements. STILL JELLO. Only on low throttle and diving. Any suggestions?

My new indoor drone

Amazing Review and great drone! - Thanks Mike

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for a true instructional video and informative 👍.

GREAT review of this beast!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Glad you think so! Thanks for stopping by Jake

Do you place the flight controller in the middle of the frame or right in the center of the motors?

Beast of a drone Mike! Think your going to need a bigger studio if these quads keep growing in size. 😂😂😂 Thanks for the review....that was a really nice edit!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

You got that right!

Good review and nice to see some channels reviewing. I bought a helion and have been enjoying it so far. Have seen the jello and it’s definitely more shaky cruising compared to my chimera 7. What’s your thoughts on the 55amp esc in such a big quad? One of the flights I did was a heavy headwind coming back and was having to push it hard. Was seeing 55-60amps and was starting to worry about popping the esc

@christianmonghansen1671

5 ай бұрын

also have it, if you place the battery wrong, then jello can happen, other than that , 100 times better than the chimera 7 inch(also have that)

@divingfalconfpv4602

5 ай бұрын

Yea I didn't get the 55amp. Think another 10" too did 55amp esc. I'd done the 80amp esc but I know that 4in1 is ridiculously expensive

@freespirit2129

4 ай бұрын

Isn't 55amp esc means 55amp continuous for each motor? Also what you are seeing with amp meter on OSD is the total amp draw I believe

@PavelMy

Ай бұрын

And how to install it correctly? should it be in the center of gravity, or behind?

Great Video thanks for sharing!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! :)

I have a Bob57 & I have the antenna getting loose issue.. my fix was just a small strip of insulation tape to stop the nut undoing.. works great

@DroneSupremacy

4 ай бұрын

Yep that's a great solution!

Good review Mike

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

LOVE IT...!!! But will it work with the DJI goggles V1??? THANKS and great imformitive video good job... 😉👍🙏

@ireshekanayake4844

5 ай бұрын

O3 doesn’t work with V1. It works only with V2 and above

Very nice video, thanks. Ive the MOZ-7 and I am pretty happy with it. Visually the helion looks so cool...

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Indeed!

@User18dog

2 ай бұрын

Anything you don’t like about the moz7?

@swissfpvshots

2 ай бұрын

@@User18dog the Jello with a GoPro ontop

@User18dog

2 ай бұрын

@@swissfpvshots rlly that it’s?

@User18dog

2 ай бұрын

Are you still rockin the moz for your LR?

Velcro Strips come in handy for the shell..

put a small camera on top facing backwards at the antennas and watch them dance from the 10" vibration machine

@offaxisfpv

5 ай бұрын

also, putting the gps inside the shell between the two antennas is a very weird choice. looks like a good Buy and Fix (BNF)

Awesome!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

Good review. So are you saying jello can be 100% avoided if we attach the lipo as you suggested?

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

With the latest firmware update for the Helion I was told this was fixed!

What reciever would you recommend for maximum performance and distance on this drone.....for someone who is starting fresh and hasn't chosen a controller yet?

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Crossfire is the norm but me personally I fly ELRS and I’m happy with the results 👍🏼

Quality!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

id be annoyed not having usb port access without removing the shell, if youre DIY enough id probably dremel out a couple access ports and then 3D print a TPU plug i could easily remove, might be the best solution ;)

I dont like how they did the antennas underneath the canopy but the rest looks sweet!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

True

Hello everyone, I bought a Helion 10, installed it, and everything seems fine, but the range is very small, probably a maximum of 700м? Goggles lose contact. I'm using the following equipment: (Crossfire Tango 2 transmitter, DJI Goggles 2. TBS crossfire.) There are no significant interferences. I tested it in an open field. Big thank you for any help!

what video transmission system r u running? is this dii or the walksnail?

@DroneSupremacy

4 ай бұрын

DJI 👍🏼

Hi everyone! I have problems with vibrations on the video recorded by the action camera. Especially in the descent part. Does anyone have any advice on this? what can I do to avoid vibrations in the video? Thank you!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Check the pinned comment 🙌🏼 hopefully that would help

You should use a li-ion pack if you are really trying to do LR. a 6s2p pack will get you much longer flight times than a lipo, from 20>30 mins. samsung have 21700 5000mah 35A cells. I think 10inch is much better suited for these packs as my 7" really falls outside it's efficiency window while weighting 1.2KG, i struggle to get more than 30mins of cruising. When you do your LR test please take a similar 7inch drone to compare and do a head to head., that would be really useful for people considering which size frame to get.

@divingfalconfpv4602

5 ай бұрын

I have 6S4P 12,000mah 18650 pack I use sometimes on 8" Do 6S4P 16,800mah or 20,000mah Pretty sure it can do heavier but packs get so big

@bigdatapimp

5 ай бұрын

Ive gotten 20+min with a 5200mah 6s lipo on my 10in... its more flying conditions than anything. LIon are not as good for high amp draw, so if you have to fly into the wind you may not get any better flight times.

Jello King thats for shure

Ok, I'm going to be really honest here. I was the first to receive Helion and flagged the LED shorting issue against the FC, hence the taping fix and then the new LEDs. I will say, right from the get go, that I absolutely love this quad, despite its bad press on some forums. Many of us have provided valuable feed-back to the passionate team at 2Raw and iFlight and changes have been made.for he better. Josh and the team at 2Raw continue to provide updates so Helion matches Betaflight releases. Mike, your flight tines -- 15-30 mins on that sized lipo is BS. That may be so for a Li-ion pack, but not a lipo. I fly Helion with a 6,000mAh lipo, and I push speed. If I get 8-10 mins max that's a good flight. Regardless, I always love your passion for what we do, and I'm pleased you like Helion. 🙏❤

I just got my first long range 7” but now I have another issue, where can I fly? I live in Northern part of GA and here are zero places to fly long range. At least legally, WMA, state Parks are off limits.

@bigdatapimp

5 ай бұрын

Long range is not legal anywhere in the US. You must have LOS with the aid of any magnifying device. You can use a VO but must be able to communicate directly with them without using radios. Thank the FAA coming up with the BS rules and the community for being to lazy/afraid to do anything to fight them.

What are these used for primarily?

@PavelMy

Ай бұрын

for shooting in the mountains, I think it's obvious)

dope!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by dude! You're already deep in the FPV game so you might enjoy this one :)

@Boyanoo

5 ай бұрын

yea ive seen this one a couple times now, looks sick! @@DroneSupremacy

Been saying 10in is better than 7/8in for about 3 years now. No one listened. 100mph easy and 20+min flight times with a 5200mah 6s. And yes you can freestyle the crap out of 10in too.

How do i get the update pids ?

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Check out iFlight's Facebook group - there's info on how to update to the latest FW on the Helion.

motors are a bit small, I would stick 3215 1050kv ) need more poooowwwwaaaarrrrr! ))))

I want it ❤

Capable of over 100kmh?! Dam.

max range?

10inch more agile that 7inch? c'mon!

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Try and you’ll see :)

@brianconnolly5649

5 ай бұрын

Depends on both drones

@scottgivens27

5 ай бұрын

I have 6”,7”, 9”, and freestyle the Nazgûl 10v6. I can not see a 10” or 9” out maneuver nor be more agile than a 7” on this 🌎 planet. 😁 But it’s a swazeet looking 10” for 👍 sure!

@scottgivens27

4 ай бұрын

@@Zeaiclies I mainly freestyle my 9” and 10” quads and I can tell you from personal daily flying them that they are no way near as maneuverable, nor as nimble as a 7 inch, they are, however very fun and impressive to fly. And just like a muscle car, they haul, but on a straightaway and they do sound and look sweet. But no, the best 10” quad will never out maneuver, the best tune, 7 inch quad, as even tuning is an issue with nine and 10 inch quads and a limitation of prop choice, along with the limitations of the tune you can get out of them.

@scottgivens27

4 ай бұрын

@@Zeaiclies Many things are possible through technology of course, but in the current drone community we lives in, more focus has been put into smaller drones than larger At the moment the tech is not there for off the shelve 10" drones to out perform of the shelf 7". Especially when it comes to this drone. The only difference between the He lion and the I flight Nashik 10 V6 that I have, is the frame. The motors, electronics and tune are the same across the board, and its not designed to be as maneuverable as a 7" because the market isn't their for designers to focus on that performance. At the moment, there is no propeller, frames, nor motors designed to eliminate noise on larger quads in general. That noise makes pushing large quads to perform and be as maneuverable as smaller quads is challenging. From my findings and from what I've seen and learned from tuning large quads, for the smoothest flight to reduce noise, you have to reduce the PWM frequency down to 16 from 24. It makes and reduces a lot of the noise, but a vast reduction in maneuverable flying. Maybe Chris Rosser will come out with a frame and motors to solve these issues. Lol

1 of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to any drone is jello i absolutely cant stand it!! It makes me want to sell the drone right away. So honestly can you tell me if the jello is a problem ??

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

It's a problem with some FW versions (updating to the newest one apparently fixes it) and from mounting the battery the wrong way.

$800 with a cheep 3d printed body that looks kinda cool... That'll be $1,750 thanks... 🤔

Overpriced like crazy. If you want to do mountain surfing, FPV plane would be way more efficient and easier on signal interference, at the fraction of the cost. I would throw a way that stupid shell on top, it's just useless weight.

@GinTonicFPV

4 ай бұрын

I think iFlight built this primarily to cash in on the Ukraine conflict. 10 inch drones can carry a much bigger payload than 7 inch and are also way more manoeuvrable than planes.

7 inch LR Drones are not that efficient? Not that fast for a long period of time? 10 inch much more agile in the air? Are you really saying to compare two machines with different sizes and construction is a fair comparison? If you think so, It follows then to compare a Ferrari and a school bus is okay. Could you please support all these statements with a side to side comparison by specs and actual flight under the same conditions? 10 inch drones are beasts, however size comes with a lot of tunning issues, read comments below from some other viewers. Thanks for sharing and for your time.

First 🎉

@DroneSupremacy

5 ай бұрын

Special high five your you kind sir 😅🙌🏼

@MrEddieNunez

5 ай бұрын

@@DroneSupremacyFull watch and great review. I’ve noticed many comments on the iFlight FB group talking about the same things you did…. The shell and antenna. I am still on the fence on purchasing this drone. Not sure if I would get much use out of it in NYC, due to its size. Only when I go further up north to the Catskill mountains could this be handy. The price point is a bit high in my opinion, but I totally understand with inflation. Looking forward to your long range flight and additional thoughts.

A 10 inch drone is faster and more agile than a 7 inch drone? I'm sorry the math doesn't math. I like this drone and I want it but let's be real. The best agro flights aren't done with a 10 inch drone. The most racing that is done with a drone is not done with a 10 inch drone. The only thing that is done with larger and larger props is long-range for the efficiency not for the speed not for the agility. Just for the ability to navigand high wind situations And carrying the weight of a heavier battery. Physics say that in order to be agile you have to give up some stability. Much like staying on the balls of your feet in sports allows you to change direction easily but it renders you a little less stable than stayingfirmly planted with your feet down. 10 inch props are all about stability. Physics also says in order to go faster you must reduce as much weight as you can thereby using the available power for propulsion not for lift. Come on guy this is science make the math math

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