Heather Mac Donald on Identity Politics & More | Part 1/2 | The Origins Podcast w/ Lawrence Krauss
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This is the first part unique conversation with journalist and author, Heather Mac Donald.The author of The Diversity Delusion, Heather doesn't mince words. Lawrence and she don't agree on everything as you'll see during the podcast. Nonetheless, these conversations are critical in fostering an open dialogue as we try to come to a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Stay tuned for the upcoming second part of this episode, where Lawrence and Heather revisit their earlier discussion for updates, clarifications, and further discussion around current events as they unfold.
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Heather Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal, and a New York Times bestselling author. She is a recipient of the 2005 Bradley Prize. Mac Donald’s work at City Journal has covered a range of topics, including higher education, immigration, policing, homelessness and homeless advocacy, criminal-justice reform, and race relations. Her writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, and The New Criterion. Mac Donald's newest book, The Diversity Delusion: How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture (2018), argues that toxic ideas first spread by higher education have undermined humanistic values, fueled intolerance, and widened divisions in our larger culture.
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Heather Mac Donald is a national treasure. Of all her amazing traits- her courage is at the top of that long list. Hey Lady- we love you out here.
@annjuurinen6553
2 жыл бұрын
Courage rather than victimhood is infinitely preferable.
@trumanhw
Жыл бұрын
He gives a 3m disclaimer & introduces her as "provocative" ..? OH! I see what LK means: _to the cry-bullies._
@IconRadio99
Жыл бұрын
No she is not
The courageous Heather MacDonald is a national treasure.
@bobzannelli2953
2 жыл бұрын
Here Kraus platforms Heather Mac Donald a right wing nut who advocate stop and frisk of minorities, argued that Donald Trump is not racist , his critics are, went on the late Limpblob show to argue that Obama was destroying America with his racism , that food stamps cause an un healthy dependence ,because you know going hungry builds chacactor. Of course she also opposed any form of minimum wage. Mac Donald has called COVID an un justified panic. She supports torture and the patriot act. And so on. Of course this is all cry baby nonsense about identity politics , because you know this is the real problem in America That Krauss would treat this nut as someone worth talking to must be a desperate effort to get someone to watch his podcast, figuring that courting the right is where you find the green.
@wasdwasdedsf
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobzannelli2953 "advocate stop and frisk of minorities" lol, you mean suspicious people... like the best mayor in americas history did in new york to do magic on the city and crime there... who happen to be bl since bl people lhave a ludicrous crime problem? "argued that Donal Tru is not rac" wow imagine doing such a mental thing! how about any of you lunatics attempt to prove that insane point instead of just screaming slurs like some tourettes child all over the place with people you disagree with? "Obama was destroying America" he did, just like the installed vegetable is doing right now at a faster pace than anyone evre before "has called C an un justified panic" lol hwo dare she... except now it came out there were 15k total that has died from the cough in UK...
@darbyohara
11 ай бұрын
It’s sad and gross speaking in public things people don’t like has become courage
I agree with Heather about "trigger warnings". "Trigger warnings"are just another way wokesters can display their virtue and gain even more attention.
@marcyeverest589
2 жыл бұрын
Except that this is not what is happening. I am a college professor and today it is the right-wing that gets upset when the facts of a topic don't support their ideology. In 35 years, I have never heard from "wokesters." The only complaints come from those who are extremely religious or, in recent years, those that advocate fascist ideology. Just being objective isn't enough. The ideology police are out there and "nothing" is OK unless it actively supports their particular ideology... facts be damned.
@surretrett
2 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt there’s many fascists students. More likely you are one of those wokesters.
@magnetarattractionsno9643
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcyeverest589 lol you just described your fellow intolerant leftists. But yeah, keep on with your fantasy, afterall, you work and live in a fantasy world.
@willmercury
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcyeverest589 Hmm... I was a humanities professor for 20 years at a small college in New England, and my experience was precisely the opposite of what you describe. I am politically liberal, and my efforts to engage with my colleagues on this problem were met with naked bigotry, righteous misandry, and vicious denunciation-- the Woke love to devour their own. I don't know your situation, but I wonder if your view is not blinkered, or motivated by an antipathy toward the right which is affecting your assessment. It is quite common knowledge that the Woke are radically intolerant of challenges to their own revanchist ideology; academia is littered with their casualties, among them many outspoken leftists such as myself. I recommend to your attention Lionel Shriver, Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying, Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, Michael Rectenwald, Glenn Loury and John McWhorter, Jonathan Haidt and Meghan Daum for more expansive consideration-- most of them very liberal if that makes it more palatable. Good luck.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcyeverest589 Bullshit. You are too deep in the bubble.
It's great that Krauss has the book in front of him to reference and has clearly read it. Some interviewers don't even read their guest's book fully.
Heather is such a bright person. What a great conversation
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
2 жыл бұрын
She's also gorgeous. She looks a little like Nicole Kidman but without all the hideous plastic surgery.
@crisrbb
2 жыл бұрын
She is very nice! I used to take care of her dad.
Thank you for posting such intellectual conversation! Conversations like this should be happening in Universities and elsewhere in this country.
Heather MacDonald is a brilliant thinker, a thoughtful speaker and passionate debater. This was a thought provoking and interesting discussion between two intellects who didn’t always agree but were respectful and gracious to one another. Thank you!
Dr. Krauss leads by example... the example of inclusion. No one appreciates being palliated or condescended to, and Lawrence's ability to walk the thin line of fair representation is a joy to both view and learn from. He genuinely offers the same courtesy that it appears he himself favors. I did not come away from listening to this discussion interpreting Ms. Mac Donald's stance as particularly "conservative" (as was eluded to beforehand), rather that of a "realist." Hoping she is invited to participate in an even larger dynamic of a discussion panel... having zero to do with the fact that she is female. Incidentally, Professor Alice Roberts pops to mind as well, as a complementary future contributor. Thank you both.
@TheOriginsPodcast
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will be doing a panel with Heather sometime, and in fact was supposed to film a podcast with Alice a year or so ago when In UK, but that fell through.. Will do one again sometime in the future.
@annford6640
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginsPodcast Didn't see the reply yesterday (Sun.); sorry! Thank you so much~~
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
Year of the placebo, placebo racism, placebo mask wearing placebo self identity as well as others kzread.info/dash/bejne/maOf2JmBpNCYm7w.html
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginsPodcast Placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as onto others kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXyoyKmfYs6ngs4.html
@philippedesaulniers
2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I am absolutely in love with Heather, and I am happy to go with whatever label she has. I think of myself as a conservative, but if "realist" fits better, I'm happy to go with that
Fantastic interview! Heather MacDonald is brilliant; I had never watched Mr. Krauss before, but he is very articulate and asked interesting questions.
It’s impossible to have this conversation without sticking your foot in your mouth a few times, but it’s so important to have this conversation. Glad there are still people courageous enough to broach difficult topics
@quantumloc8159
2 жыл бұрын
collider collided itself f=0
@quantumloc8159
2 жыл бұрын
this kraus is odens't prest, condenstion process of sound. koh
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
Year of the PLACEBO, placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as others, creating assumptions and/or a new mentality from nothing when it didn’t exist before. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXyoyKmfYs6ngs4.html Social cataclysm planned for centuries, CT=preprogramming thought routes installed in the psyches of the masses by manipulating perception. Here’s a video I made that will help you understand your enemy(one world conspirators) kzread.info/dash/bejne/maOf2JmBpNCYm7w.html recorded in 1967, and I quote “It will become illegal to discriminate against a negro in ANY way under revolutionary law after final social cataclysm”
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
@August Kleiber Getting the masses to hate each other has been planned for centuries. Psyches of the masses has been easy pickins, especially children that do not know any better and their neocortical functions are still being formed. “Give me just one generation and I’ll transform the entire world” individual oneness of the spirit kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGyppbOfkrGwd9I.html
@patrickbarnes9874
2 жыл бұрын
@@savrixx You produce the quote that it will be illegal to discriminate against black people as if that was a bad thing. I don't support giving preferences to black people or present discrimination against whites to make up for past discrimination against blacks, but I don't see anything wrong with ending discrimination against blacks in a way which does not involve hurting other groups and don't understand why anybody would think preventing racism is wrong.
Wow! Heather MacDonald is remarkable = ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you very much for having the fearless and educated Mrs. Mac Donald on your show
Heather is such an extraordinary person. Her pieces in City Journal and elsewhere are always magnificent and spellbinding, even if she is basically chronicling the end times. These two hours flew by, and I'm greatly looking forward to part 2
@rcmrcm3370
2 жыл бұрын
I liked your review of Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged.
Krauss anticipates hate mail arising from the stating of statistics. Wonderful.
@philipslimko4627
Жыл бұрын
True of course
Well - I've started trawling through many of your conversations just recently for the first time and at age 58 I sense I might just now be starting to learn something - thank you so kindly
Well done, Heather!
I'm impressed that Lawrence can listen to Heather and music at the same time.
@greencraig8570
2 жыл бұрын
It's a Harrison Bergeron type of handicap.
It's one thing to be skeptical of professors - a totally different ball game when a student is disrespectful, yelling and swearing at professors.
@willmercury
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's why I quit teaching after 20 years.
@Alexander_Sannikov
Жыл бұрын
honestly in my experience (moscow university) during the first year i very quickly learnt that out of 10 times i'm "skeptical" of what a professor tells me, literally 10 times means that i understood something wrong. so you very quickly learn to be humble and that you're surrounded by people vastly smarter than you are, and before getting "skeptical" about anything, you need your full effort and attention to absorb the enormous amount of information that you can learn from them. so when it comes to hard sciences, whenever something "feels wrong", it's literally 99.99% your understanding that's wrong.
@WhizzingFish12
Жыл бұрын
They should have been expelled. Period. The same with any group of students that try to silence a legitimate invited speaker. Until that begins to happen the universities will continue their slow death spiral.
@joejohnson6327
Жыл бұрын
Those young people are intellectually (& morally) stunted. They wouldn't be able to formulate a cogent argument if their lives depended on it.
So glad to see you still doing well, Dr Krauss!!! Also a huge fan of Heather!!! I have read her excellent book about "diversity" and have given it to people as a gift in efforts to snap them back to reality. So far, no effect. One person said "she is so worked up!," Ignored the content, just used a quibble about the tone to deny the content.
It’s good to hear authentic voices in politics occasionally. So many public figures buy into the game of saying what they know is expected and what will avoid being denounced. Very brave to speak the truth, even if it is hard to hear for some.
I’m so happy Heathers name came across my radar a few years ago. I very much enjoyed reading her books; she obviously makes her beliefs evident in the book, but supports her position with a lot of data and data I’ve never come across before. Side note: we need to have more debate or conversations with people on the opposite side of the isle. These days it’s EXTREMELY rare and instead try to shout down people with different viewpoints.
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
Opposite sides of the center curve, maybe? Like.
Smart, moral and courageous. Health MacDonald inspires me.
The students referred to at Yale (38 minutes +/-) should have been expelled. Instead they were honored. Yale should be ashamed of itself, especially for the fact that their law school was the genesis of the deconstructionist theories that have undermined the meritocracy of ability in the academy and resulted in the current delusional political environment we live in today.
@billeckman7332
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah let's cancel the students and while we are at it cancel deconstructionists. What makes them think academia is a place for theories we oppose? DWS
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
Placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as others! Projecting these boundaries of perception from narrow deconstructionist ideologies and the profane thought avenues that come with its programming. Social cataclysm planned for centuries.
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
Placebo projection of very narrow preprogrammed boundaries of perception from these deconstructionist ideologies and the profane thought avenues that come with them. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXyoyKmfYs6ngs4.html
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
Year of the PLACEBO, placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as others, creating assumptions and/or a new mentality from nothing when it didn’t exist before. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXyoyKmfYs6ngs4.html Social cataclysm planned for centuries, CT=preprogramming thought routes installed in the psyches of the masses by manipulating perception. Here’s a video I made that will help you understand your enemy(one world conspirators) kzread.info/dash/bejne/maOf2JmBpNCYm7w.html recorded in 1967, and I quote “It will become illegal to discriminate against a negro in ANY way under revolutionary law after final social cataclysm”
So much anger, so much disagreement. So much thought provoking arguments, so much agreement. This is excellent. ^ describes how I feel about her. This tested my will and I appreciate it. The podcast is one of the best you've done. Now I gotta hit the gym
@TheOriginsPodcast
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hope your workout goes well.
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginsPodcast Year of the PLACEBO projection, placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as others. If ignorance reigns over truth then only might is right. Sheer power.
@savrixx
2 жыл бұрын
Social cataclysm planned for centurieskzread.info/dash/bejne/nXyoyKmfYs6ngs4.html
@time4sanity
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing "hit" being the operative word, LOL! I agree...very thought provoking!
@patrickbarnes9874
2 жыл бұрын
What about this tested your will? It all seemed to be reasonable common sense from both Krauss and MacDonald to me.
Heather MacDonald is marvelous. I had the same experiences in grad school years ago, the French invasion had made its way to my school, and it is unmistakably a primary source of the current mess. She had the gumption to do something about it.
This is the advice to the young generations ! take it easy , go through your life journey , with conscious minds, no matter, if you’re studying at university or not , your life time’s is your university, and always follow the truth !
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
"Always trust authority's narrative. You'll be happy." Like
Dr. Krauss, I admire your evolution in how you approach conversations and ideas. This example is sorely needed! Thank you 😊
Thank you for posting this podcast. A great conversation on timely issues! 🙏👏🙏👏
Wow! How has Heather remained off my radar for so long? She is so valuable to our modern discourse. Thank you both 🙏🏽.
If you could please time stamp these dialogs, thank you. Teaching our children how to ask the right questions in the socratic fashion.
What a great conversation! I have been following Mrs. Mac Donald's videos for a short time now. But what a great voice for reason. It is so great to see that youtube offers videos with educated intellectual speakers. If I watch one more video of so-called comedians giving their commentary on political issues I will scream. If you want to see a comedy show watch Netflix or any of the other numerous streaming services. What is happening in our culture is not a joke. It needs to be addressed by intelligent people with analytical minds. You will not get an objective opinion from Fox television or CNN. They are the Jerry Springers of this generation. The more shocking the better the ratings. Truth be damned. Not all of us have drunk the political kool-aid. I have no intention of picking a side just to appease our culture's cult-like party system. We should take a lesson from science and let logic prevail. Facts and statistics are the only way to bring our society back to a state of sanity and reason. I applaud both Mrs. Mac Donald and Mr. Krauss. I hope more scholars wake up and speak the truth.
It is so weird, well maybe not too weird, that I vehemently disagree with her on some points while at the same time vehemently agree with her on others. Thank you Dr. Krauss for this video! It was thought provoking and captivating. I will not watch it while driving again!
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
Way to evaluate ideas individually! Serious, no cynicism. Like.
@Todd_Kobell
2 жыл бұрын
Its not too late to delete this comment lol
Heather Mac Donald is a breath of fresh air in a world which is suffocating by lies.
This woman is a beacon in the dark ages we live in. She has the courage of her opinion and ignores any costs. Amazing, honest, raw. Seemingly conservative but progressive in essence.
@jefflawrence5835
2 жыл бұрын
Lol sure
@willmercury
2 жыл бұрын
@@jefflawrence5835 Snark is not a position.
Heather is spot on!!! Great podcast, thanks for sharing!
One of the most insightful people around that isn’t afraid to say it like it is. She’s always way ahead of the curve
"One of the purposes of education is to make yourself uncomfortable." Dr Krauss, that's more intelligent than anything the woke have to offer.
@joejohnson6327
Жыл бұрын
How could intellectually stunted, sanctimonious kids come up with something to offer? 🤢
As a 59 Yr old leftist from the u.k. I still remember my youth, as an activist, and the rhetoric we would hear from politically active University and college tutors. I quickly came to realise the amount of bullshit they spewed out. Anyone with any political reality can tell you the working class is conservative with a small c and anyone with any economic sense can tell you that sensible capitalism has improved the lot of the working class. When you start from that basis you shouldn't go wrong politically and economically unless you are corrupt or just plain dumb. In the same way the far left follow out of date dogma so does far right conservatism. That boring, middle of the road, post ww2 , pro Keynes economic system was the highlight of 20th century until it changed in the late 70's early eighties. This has led to the madness on college campuses and political division were no common ground can be found
@darbyohara
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for being an activist who helped these loons build what’s going on today. This is your (and your ilk) fault
I was in North Philly earlier today working with a customer. He told me that when he was in the military it was great because their was a real sense of brotherhood. Then he came back home to a war zone. Him and his wife moved from Wissahickon which they thought was safe to Upper North Philly which they were told that it was safer. They were constantly dealing with shootings in Wissahickon, and then they moved to Upper North Philly, and they were dealing with shootings and robberies in the neighborhood too. He didn't blame the problem on White Supremacy or Patriarchy, he said the problem is a lack of community, and a lack of brotherhood among men like there was in the core. Sociopathy as the norm is the problem in society and it isn't being addressed.
I've only just heard of Heather Mac Donald - she's brilliant!
One of the best conversations I've heard in awhile. Thanks Lawrence!
Great Podcast. Good to see you back Professor Krauss!
As a Christian, I have a different worldview than Krauss, which is fine. I love his Interviewing style and his ability to agree with and push back on this guest in some areas. Fascinating discussion. Can't say I agree with Heather on every point, but that was a great discussion. I think my IQ rose a standard deviation just by listening.
@craigwillms61
2 жыл бұрын
Right, likewise, I'm a Christian and totally appreciate these sorts of conversations. It's interesting that Heather is edging right-wing the more she experiences the insanity of the left - rather than excuse it. I don't know Krauss that well, but many of his contemporaries (smart people who hail from the left) are waking up. Not that right-wingers are necessarily locked in on truth but, for damn sure, in practice, the hard left is just wrong about almost everything.
@rascalkr4967
2 жыл бұрын
"As a Christian"... Does that qualify you for some special consideration?
@WhizzingFish12
Жыл бұрын
@@rascalkr4967It absolutely informs one's entire worldview (much more than "as a black woman..." or something like that) and provides a rational grounding for the perspective that follows.
Manual labor was shamed when I was growing up. My counselor never told me to be a Gardner, Plummer, refrigeration or start a business. It was always college or careers that paid the highest tax base, not investing or own a business. It’s a government school they want to train you to be a good taxpayer.
That was a very interesting conversation. I didn’t always agree with what she was saying early on but I couldn’t stop listening to what she had to say. Absolutely fascinating discussion. Made me think way more than I expected.
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
Good expression of your ability to examine new ideas. Humility is a manly strength, along with others.
Love the podcasts *and* your frames! I need to figure out where you get em!
This was an excellent talk. Loved both perspectives.
"These procedures we have developed in western Jurisprudence are so precious, to try and check the human instinct for revenge, for partisanship, and for a university, of all places, to be discarding them, and scoffing at them, is truly an irony." WOW!!
Excellent and important guest. Kudos Lawrence.
Thank you HMcD for your articulation of our troubled universities and society! It is truly worrisome and I am glad that you are speaking up.
If you take the time to sit with this amazing lady, you got my sub.
Two great minds, thankyou!.
Thanks for such a refreshing discussion! Look at what great things can happen when we can respect each other and not entirely agree. Who'd have thought? :)
Terrific discussion. More!
It would be great if you had the KZreadr Cosmic Skeptic on the podcast. Two legendary intellectuals (although one is still quite young and may require a few more years to be considered “legendary”) from two different eras having a superbly profound conversation on various topics. Would be beautiful.
@ZambeziKid
2 жыл бұрын
They already did a chat. Its on CS's channel
Wow! Heather's Yale experience in the English Department matches my own...but I went in the 90s!
I give you credit for having her on. Thanks for being a true scientist an not running from truths no matter how upset people get
Dr. Krauss: Keep up the good work. Enjoyed this informative video.
Amazing conversation. Loved it.
Heathers excellent. Her excited voice tone is bloody fantastic .
Brilliant. Sadly... few, if any, college students will ever see this wonderful conversation. I'm so thankful that I attended university in the early 1980s, and I'm even more thankful that I won't be around to witness the final collapse of Western Civilization (in about 25 years). We had a good run. Maybe one day, future historians will look back at us in wonder.
@DataSpook
2 жыл бұрын
It wont collapse, but again nothing is forever.
I agree with both Lawrence and Heather with respect to learning. The key may be a "Well formed question", with a level of "Critical thinking"; both of which can be learned.
I absolutely adore Heather
This was terrific conversation/interview! Best I have listened to for a long time, and I listen to interviews all the time. Maybe if it becomes common knowledge that the brain of males matures more slowly than females, we can help young men and women traverse this difficult terrain. Male brains do not mature until they are 26 years of age. I was surprised too!
Excellent talk. What's the expression? "Follow the money"? Higher education has become a scheme to pin debt on people regardless of whether they've really merited admittance to university. Diplomas have become another fiat currency.
Great conversation.
I adore Heather! Such sanity is so rare these days.
she on target!-- thanks Heather.
Fascinating discussion. Thanks you two! Being a South African who has lived in 2 completely differing governmental ideologies. I understand and agree with many things raised. I will say on this matter that we are living in a world of competing narratives as predicted by Derrida a century ago and the dominant narrative regardless of truth becomes the structures within we interact
@jefflawrence5835
2 жыл бұрын
Not surprising that you would sympathize with a racist.
@nulfire
2 жыл бұрын
@@jefflawrence5835 that is a Muppet thing to say
I'm new to this podcast channel, but so far love it. It reminds me of how the Intellectual Dark Web intended itself to be (I'm not sure if it's still a thing, or broken up).
Thank you, Mr. Krauss, what a remarkable and brave woman 🙏🏻
Thank you both for finding the buffer line. Starting from this point, society can start having a mature and rational conversation!
As a Nigerian-immigrant currently working and schooling in North America, I have come to one conclusion: Social Justice, wokeness and progressivism can ONLY exist in a developed, liberal and first-world nation/region where there are very few existential threats and where the purposeless masses in urban areas have to create some form of ideology to fill the void in their lives. That is why it makes no sense and destroys that society. That is also why rural westerners, non-western countries and immigrants mostly tend to hate social justice and wokeness more than the native citizens.
@jesperburns
2 жыл бұрын
I wrote this down in 2006, when I was 17 years old: "humans are problem solving 'machines'; in the absence of problems, they'll create them themselves".
@orboakin8074
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesperburns Very good deduction, friend. This is becoming more and more apparent.
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesperburns Close, friends. Yes, problem solving, novel seeking, niche finding by evolution. Of course, humans will encounter problems if they are uncivilized.* * Remind you, dear Beppe, of some uncivilized hookup culture? love
@darbyohara
11 ай бұрын
Correct. This shit only works in fascist first world country
Teach at Hillsdale, Heather. I know you want to.
The friction in their disagreement in pedagogy between the sciences and the humanities is very enlightening. I learned something new today.
@WhizzingFish12
Жыл бұрын
It's because her fields are about knowledge/cultural transmission and his is about knowledge creation. Hers is much easier to target than his is.
Thank you.
She is fire !
We must protect her at all costs
I studied literature at Warwick University from 1989 to 1993 to MA Level. What Heather says about Paul De Man etc is true, in my opinion.
Yes, very much so!... Heartfelt thanks, Heather McDonald, for being so brave while speaking the Truth! Censorship is almost everywhere (kind of: "Big Brother is always watching you!")... But we all know, there is no other way out from this whole insanity! For the sake of our children + grandchildren, we must resist!
Lawrence , you keep pointing to where the two of you disagree - still waiting to see any real disagreement , - and this is at the last min. of the discussion ;) Thanks
@darbyohara
11 ай бұрын
Hes just pandering to his leftist audience who can’t handle the truth. He’s scared to get canceled
Fascinating conversation from both. Jordan Peterson would have made a great participant. In fact, I kept expecting them to reference him, particularly for his well known views on gender equality.
1:12:18 HMc "One shouldn't be stunned any more ..." Alongside Helen Pluckrose, "Stopped being shocked" by irrational actions, statements. Be the adults in the room!
@willmercury
2 жыл бұрын
Helen rocks!
Being skeptical of a professor is very different than being obnoxious and rude!
It's channels like this that can bring back proper common sense to society
It's good to hear adults speaking once again.
I know she didn't do it directly but Heather's statement after Krauss basically warning people that they are going to be talking about difficult subjects is a gentle slap in the face to him. And he deserved it for being so careful.
She's a Gem. Must keep on shining without fear.
Really, really beautiful woman in every sense! I love very much the way she thinks..
“School is about passing on an inheritance” Therefore, “My oppression is not a delusion” Michael Sandel, Daniel Markovitz, any comments?
@mistermelorious
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on your perspective
Bravo 👏
Ex Muslim brown dude here and this is fascinating. Bit hard to understand due to the usage of big words, but nevertheless, it's brilliant conversation. The times have really changed. To have good meaningful conversation with content these days, you have to do it with a conservative. The left is so lost and I don't want anything to do with em tbh. Although I am left leaning.
@ritar.7836
Жыл бұрын
You are not alone.
Love Heather. Thanks for this conversation.
Its interesting that they come at this conversation from their disciplinary backgrounds. Hers emphasizes knowledge and cultural transmission while his is knowledge creation. Her sense of urgency/alarm is because her fields are much more easily targeted and threatened. He has a hard time getting it at times. And the size and cancerous growth of the DEI bureaucracy is absolutely insane. Then when one recognizes that they need to justify their existence and have an immediate and non-falsifiable response to any criticism ("you're a -phobe, -ist, bigot," etc) a light bulb goes off. What a monstrous problem.
Very interesting and informative. As ever, thx Professor
1:26:15 "I usually don't have sex with someone on the first night" It's been 7 years since I was in university but I'm gonna go ahead and estimate that about half of the one night stands I've had started with this "admission".
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
That would be "half" of how many one night stands? Junk quality. Respect your manliness maybe.
@jesperburns
2 жыл бұрын
@@paigemccormick6519 Why are you interested in the sex life of random strangers on the internet? Simply to cast judgement? In what way would my (or men in general) manliness be affected by fucking [x] number of random "junk quality" women?
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesperburns Junk quality s*x, not women. I'm sure only the best go with you. I care deeply about you.
@jesperburns
2 жыл бұрын
@@paigemccormick6519 I'm not denying it was junk quality - but you haven't answered my question.
@paigemccormick6519
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesperburns Why am I interested, question? Junk s*x has a horrible effect on civilization. Junk food, junk entertainment, junk consumerism, junk media, junk crime, junk scholarship, junk jobs, junk education. Sometimes, I feel like commenting.
There should be a sign above every classroom door saying "This is not a safe space"
Good chat and I truly appreciate all the work done on this channel and by the two. My only gripe here would be Laurences constant neverending cowardice, I really loathe that part of these discussions.
There’s a simple formula, to accept or reject, any ideas or theory, and that is, if you accept or reject, they both need to have an evidence for it !
@darbyohara
11 ай бұрын
Thomas Sowell said it best: Compared to what At what cost What evidence do you have to support your idea
I remember architecture students designing insane "deconstructive " projects during the 1980s.
@billeckman7332
2 жыл бұрын
Frank Gehry has had quite the career methinks.