Updates & Clarifications with Heather Mac Donald on Identity Politics & More | Part 2/2

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This is the second part unique conversation with journalist and author, Heather Mac Donald. The author of The Diversity Delusion, Heather doesn't mince words. Lawrence and she don't agree on everything as you'll see during the podcast. Nonetheless, these conversations are critical in fostering an open dialogue as we try to come to a deeper understanding of the world around us.
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Heather Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal, and a New York Times bestselling author. She is a recipient of the 2005 Bradley Prize. Mac Donald’s work at City Journal has covered a range of topics, including higher education, immigration, policing, homelessness and homeless advocacy, criminal-justice reform, and race relations. Her writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, and The New Criterion. Mac Donald's newest book, The Diversity Delusion: How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture (2018), argues that toxic ideas first spread by higher education have undermined humanistic values, fueled intolerance, and widened divisions in our larger culture.
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  • @sophicfire
    @sophicfire2 жыл бұрын

    Heather's courage is remarkable. She is absolutely fearless in her willingness and ability to call out all of the Woke lies and replace them with what are now very inconvenient truths in our times.

  • @trumanhw

    @trumanhw

    Жыл бұрын

    She's acclimated to the cost of candor. LK's career! is predicated on leftist ideals. Where is Sam Harris? He did 5 podcasts on the "dangers of white people." Then? Three on Trump-Russia (as did PBS Frontline): neither did 1 on the fact _it was a hoax._ LK had today's _Ayaan Hirsi Ali_ on, & the AUDACITY to AGREE with her on points. Costs we had front-row seats to see, in 2016 as Sam Harris had Charles Murray on; Preceding a major backlash (spearheaded by an articulate idiot), Ezra Klein, et al.

  • @realitymatters8720

    @realitymatters8720

    Жыл бұрын

    Saying the truth in a democratic society requires no courage, it is however refreshing ! If she was able and willing to call out the people and institutions on the right aswell, insisting on special rules and priviliges, then I think she would be both more worthwile and brave, because then there would be no one to fall back on when speaking truth to power...

  • @Av1on1cs

    @Av1on1cs

    Жыл бұрын

    She's not fearless, she's used flawed research which the academics themselves have retracted. How about that for intellectual integrity!

  • @beaconterraoneonline
    @beaconterraoneonline2 жыл бұрын

    That I find 2 people with some differing views having a rational discussion about significant and rather obvious but important issues … FINALLY … is refreshing. Keep it up.

  • @markdavid1208

    @markdavid1208

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree. It's too bad Dark Horse Podcast practically never ever will do this. Why I basically stopped listening.

  • @boydhooper4080

    @boydhooper4080

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence only thinks he’s on the left. He just misunderstands where the left is. He’s a centrist like all rational fingers

  • @ransakreject5221

    @ransakreject5221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@boydhooper4080 he’s considers far right by the leftists I know. They have no idea how far the Overton window has moved

  • @talantlt1815

    @talantlt1815

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a German I am quite shocked how deep the apparent devide in american society seem to be. Considering the other side represented by fundamental and nationalistic christians represenred by the folks storming the Capitol. Any kind of reconsiliation seem far from realistic. Very scary

  • @d.marques4700
    @d.marques47009 ай бұрын

    Truly enlightening conversations! Thank you both of you!...

  • @philippedesaulniers
    @philippedesaulniers2 жыл бұрын

    Heather's sign-off: "let's be anti-fragile and don't stay safe" is perfect

  • @ugjhgjf

    @ugjhgjf

    2 жыл бұрын

    1:07:47 Never noticed how safetyism had crept in until she pointed it out.

  • @Doutsoldome

    @Doutsoldome

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @TheWorldTeacher

    @TheWorldTeacher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Doutsoldome, Respected British anthropology professor, Dr. Edward Dutton, has demonstrated that “LEFTISM” is due to genetic mutations caused by poor breeding strategies. To put it simply, in recent decades, those persons who have leftist traits such as egalitarianism, feminism, socialism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, perverse morality, and laziness, have been reproducing at rates far exceeding the previous norm, leading to an explosion of insane, narcissistic SOCIOPATHS in (mostly) Western societies.

  • @juanaq

    @juanaq

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheWorldTeacher honest question: how Dr. Dutton explain the enormous amount of leftists people with conservative right wing parents? and hey, i know lots of them. not to mention that just a couple of decades ago, communist all around the world used to be absolutely anti gay rights.

  • @thegroove2000

    @thegroove2000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheWorldTeacher Are they his personal views or tested scientifically?.

  • @andreasbotha6356
    @andreasbotha63567 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad for this second conversation!

  • @joelmacintyre613
    @joelmacintyre6132 жыл бұрын

    While I might not have the same outlook that Krauss has I love that he is willing to have discussions like this. We need this soo much. so thanks.

  • @trumanhw

    @trumanhw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just think though -- Sam Harris .... a former ally..? Has been lost the intellectually dishonest.

  • @nandrumacparlan4086
    @nandrumacparlan40862 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Lawrence. Your discussions always hold such great relevance.

  • @eliezra6098
    @eliezra6098 Жыл бұрын

    Heather McDonald's insights are brilliant

  • @whereisyourfaith1454
    @whereisyourfaith1454 Жыл бұрын

    Love Heather! Thanks for the interview.

  • @steamboatbillywilly
    @steamboatbillywilly2 жыл бұрын

    Very excited for this! Love Heather Mac Donald.

  • @philippedesaulniers
    @philippedesaulniers2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a conservative, and I love that Lawrence Krauss is a liberal who still supports free expression and the virtues of merit. Too many liberals have given up on those old-fashioned liberal values. Krauss has earned my respect. And of course Heather is divine.

  • @trumanhw

    @trumanhw

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am an ATHEIST; and I RESENT that Dinesh alienates us ... instead of aligning with those of us who are ANTI-DOGMA! How can he not SEE that we are NATURAL ALLIES. We care about TRUTH. And we FAR from view religious theism as ranking anywhere NEAR as high as political dogmas. Those ARE what have the monster death tolls of the 20th century; bc Nazis weren't protestant ... any more than USSR was atheistic. They were both anti-scientific political DOGMAS which believed in things like LYSENKOISM. ARTHASHASTRA already!! Muslims joined the left (aka, the useful IDIOTS) and The US worked with the soviets to defeat the nazis. C'mon!!! We're not that bad. We're just SKEPTICAL & like EVIDENCE.

  • @bluecollarred6912

    @bluecollarred6912

    Жыл бұрын

    Krauss is more of a moderate leftist then a liberal. Liberalism and leftism are two very different things. Leftism is a rejection of liberalism.

  • @DistantTower
    @DistantTower2 жыл бұрын

    Incredibly refreshing.

  • @rstevens7711
    @rstevens77112 жыл бұрын

    I think I'm correct in saying that Heather MacDonald is not as well known in the UK and Europe as she is in North America. She really is a force of nature. There is so much on which we disagree, but it doesn't matter - she is magnificently brash, opinionated and apparently great company.

  • @Seekthetruth3000
    @Seekthetruth30002 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this podcast. We need more conversations such as this one. 👌👌👍👍🌹🌹

  • @JamesCairney
    @JamesCairney2 жыл бұрын

    "gender bias" is something that is put forward in a rather disingenuous way. This example has been touted as evidence of gender bias, in the past: "If you are waiting for surgery and you assume that your surgeon will be male, this is evidence of your gender bias" Hold on, if the reality of the surgeon world is that there are more male surgeons than female surgeons, then you would correctly assume that the likelihood of your surgeon being male would be high. Even if you had a preference for a female surgeon, you would not take that preference and assume that the world will echo your preference. Instead you will look at the reality of the situation and try to predict how that will affect you. In other words, if there are more male surgeons than female surgeons, you will assume that your surgeon will be male, it is an assumption based on evidence, not preference. Our assumptions and predictions of events do not reflect our preferences, it reflects the reality that we find ourselves in. Assuming that your surgeon will be male is not evidence of bias, it's evidence of a correct assumption, it is evidence that the reality of a situation will be used to make a prediction. Predicting a situation based on your preference, and assuming that your preference is reality is clearly insane. This trick is used to convince people that they are bias against women, when they are not. A correct assumption is not evidence of bias.

  • @Doutsoldome

    @Doutsoldome

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very good point.

  • @crowesarethebest
    @crowesarethebest8 ай бұрын

    "Being black is an accomplishment" - brilliant analysis, Heather.

  • @michaelwesleysuman8269
    @michaelwesleysuman82692 жыл бұрын

    Heather McDonald is a treasure. So smart. So courageous. So correct.

  • @jaynehunter6937
    @jaynehunter69372 жыл бұрын

    That was just a terrific conversation. Thanks so much.

  • @trumanhw

    @trumanhw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right? Better download it. You know this is "dangerous" (aka pretty honest).

  • @hilden.
    @hilden. Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr. Krauss, for having the courage to host Heather MacDonald. Great conversation.

  • @galaxytrio
    @galaxytrio Жыл бұрын

    Loved this. Thanks to both of you.

  • @Alexander_Sannikov
    @Alexander_Sannikov Жыл бұрын

    I Lawrence has over time become a much better host. He listens much more than before, he's much more intellectually equipped than most other podcasters, and he always puts a lot of effort into researching the background of his guests. I still occasionally shout "let the guest talk!" at my screen, but much less than before :D

  • @markdavid1208
    @markdavid12082 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lawrence for *trying* to interrupt less.

  • @wesb8159
    @wesb81592 жыл бұрын

    Awesome conversation. Adds to so much too many. But looking forward to more like this Lawrence keep it up. Thank you for this one, the others and the many more to come

  • @woodwork5574
    @woodwork55742 жыл бұрын

    Sowell has been talking about this for years

  • @bluecollarred6912

    @bluecollarred6912

    Жыл бұрын

    He's been grifting for the same amount of time

  • @michaelkearney3646

    @michaelkearney3646

    9 ай бұрын

    @@bluecollarred6912 Ho P

  • @elizabethk3238
    @elizabethk32382 жыл бұрын

    I am a multi-racial person (25 percent Black), and agree with the discussion. I think the backlash will hurt Blacks more than they think.

  • @sarahg2653
    @sarahg2653 Жыл бұрын

    I find Heather to be quite endearing. Her frankness is weirdly charming.

  • @Ferdinand314
    @Ferdinand3142 жыл бұрын

    Love Heather Mac Donald! Why was this convo held so long before it was released?

  • @trumanhw

    @trumanhw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Easy; LK has to consider career-loss, never teaching again and of course: Being charged with "right-wing extremism / violence." We all "saw it" right..? Some woke people were killed making this. Heather is now as guilty as assange; conspiring to release classified docs!? (encouraging people to retrieve any available police stats before they're "lost"? I'm sure the BJS is going to be the 1st gov program defunded EVER; violating fed LAWS by congress! Bc you usually CANNOT fire or stop increasing funding. Can't be giving heather access to things like the interracial violent felony stats though; we ALL know where those numbers led; of the 594,598 committed... a "special group" committed 537,204 of them; HINT: not the people called racists. But the other ones..? Who do it 48.5x as often as the "other group" ... )

  • @leonardniamh
    @leonardniamh2 жыл бұрын

    I love that you interview her Yes it needs to be done & there's no way to moderate I imagine everyone knows that

  • @markmccusker2069
    @markmccusker20692 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe he doesn’t think it has ALREADY become absolute insanity or craziness. Sheesh. Excellent conversation.

  • @seditt5146

    @seditt5146

    Жыл бұрын

    It feels like everyone has seen the lunacy taking place in society in the past decade almost except those in power and the intellectuals who are taught and paid by those in power. There is likely something too that because its clear that our higher learning has been corrupted. For a while I have wondered do the realize their views are distorted or are they playing along. Kinda feels like they do not realize it even largely due to the perversion of normalcy they are surrounded by the vast majority of time.

  • @themember3podcast347
    @themember3podcast3472 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised at how much I agreed with Heather Mac Donald on some of her points and explanations. Maybe it's just me, inclusion is a gradual change over generations through the right education. I look at white males as role models because there are more of them and instead of complaining I feel like it's my responsibility to be a role model in the future or guide the next generation, including ethnic minorities, to one day become role models themselves. Not to reject white males from history entirely, I mean is it sensible to ignore Einstein or Newton's theories because they as people don't represent my ethnic group? Thank you for this great 2 part discussion.

  • @theeuropeanperspective3391
    @theeuropeanperspective33912 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. But, as it often happens, though there is lots of talk and ruminations about cultural factors causing the black-white school performance gap, the elephant in the room - hereditary factors - is hardly mentioned. Lawrence should invite Charles Murray for a talk, whose work - and latest book - is very relevant to this discussion.

  • @ck58npj72

    @ck58npj72

    2 жыл бұрын

    Charles Murry is disingenuous and a fraud.

  • @theeuropeanperspective3391

    @theeuropeanperspective3391

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ck58npj72 It's 'Murray' and he is neither of those.

  • @doyle6000
    @doyle60002 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting conversation, if not a bit scary.

  • @Lost_In_LA
    @Lost_In_LA2 жыл бұрын

    Heather is as smart and articulate as they come. Must watch TV.

  • @gerrytyrrell1507
    @gerrytyrrell1507 Жыл бұрын

    White male looking on from Ireland with tears in my eyes.😢.thanks Heather & Lawrence.

  • @greencraig8570
    @greencraig85702 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence is a natural host. Who knew?

  • @glorioskiola
    @glorioskiola2 жыл бұрын

    Great discussion. I guess I’m another old fashioned liberal.

  • @ransakreject5221

    @ransakreject5221

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too. Tho the college kids I teach in 2021 say that that makes my views far right

  • @abraham802
    @abraham8022 жыл бұрын

    schools should be divided between those that want to be safe and those who are not afraid to explore new ideas

  • @tougherguy
    @tougherguy2 жыл бұрын

    Heather Macdonald is the best. Good for you Lawrence for this pair of interviews. It's all fun and games until they come for you. And they come for friends first.

  • @gilcostello3316
    @gilcostello33168 ай бұрын

    Early on, before he became chancellor, Hitler was embarrassed by the critiques of journalists regarding his racial theories. And the most interesting phenomenon is that when someone seeks power or possessions by deception, at a certain point they start to believing their lies, seeking to be more effective in the lying by believing the lies themselves, what we see as an intellectual plague on the Left. And in his embarrassment, Hitler wrote this: “I know as well as all those clever intellectuals that in a scientific sense, there is no such thing as race, but I need a concept to serve me politically, and the concept of race serves me well.”

  • @markphc99
    @markphc992 жыл бұрын

    Thankfully I studied chemistry in the UK and USA from 1990 before any of this reared it’s ugly head.Scary stuff.

  • @naturalproductions7185
    @naturalproductions71852 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence says he “often” disagrees with Heather at the start of both of these videos. Yet, Lawrence when allegedly disagrees, it’s so subtle - it’s barely perceptible! Lawrence is 2019 Tim Pool.

  • @robe4314

    @robe4314

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL. Lawrence has a personality, charisma, and comes across genuine. Tim lacks all of these qualities in spades.

  • @adamnoble1689
    @adamnoble16892 жыл бұрын

    You should add the date of the convo in description

  • @Doutsoldome

    @Doutsoldome

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @jonathangullett3143
    @jonathangullett3143 Жыл бұрын

    This is basically Thomas Sewell’s argument. Culture defines the gap.

  • @jetpromys
    @jetpromys2 жыл бұрын

    Great show. It's important we can have these conversations. I wish that we could see more conversations between the CRT/woke crowd and people like Peterson and MacDonald. But it seems like there is a tendency for the former to just write people off completely. It is a lot like a religion when you are not allowed to have an open conversation about these things. The current Republican party goes too far when they attempt legislate away the teaching of significant events in US history, and folks on the other side go too far when they insist that all white people are hopelessly racist and that every institution or system is racist at its core. I'd like to see more teachers like Eric Foner and David Blight, who give us a detailed and factual view of US history, especially when it comes to slavery and racism.

  • @bluecollarred6912

    @bluecollarred6912

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with 99% of what you said except the fact that institutions cannot be inherently fascist. Institutions are a sum of their parts and history, in the US where most of our institutions grew in times of chattel slavery this is an important point. If an institution or agency acted in support of such actions for the majority of their history I don't see why it's wrong to call that out and take it into account.

  • @suzannekane617
    @suzannekane6172 жыл бұрын

    Extremes are stressful. Like the word safetyism.

  • @guskringen7787
    @guskringen7787 Жыл бұрын

    Good, constructive discussion. Smart. Rational. Though it’s complicated, I’m tempted to say ideology and politics are at least partially, if not greatly, determined by genetics and physiology: the part of the brain 🧠 that effects empathy and sensitivity. Translated, the more empathetic and sensitive you are the “WOKER” you tend to be. Of course there should be a balance here, but social media has put into silos and camps and polarized, we are yelling at each other in the small room we now call the world- with our differences exaggerated and intrenched. We are literally bouncing off each other in a social media echo chamber, and there’s to little in incentive to listen or compromise 1:57 . So, kudos to these two!

  • @NaoCut
    @NaoCut2 жыл бұрын

    As much as I am happy that more people, and prominent academics are talking about the unprecedented issue that we are facing are a civilization with this new orthodoxy, but I'm not too optimistic.. I feel like we are dealing with a hysterical phenomenon with which you can't reason, and I'm afraid that this is going to take us back to some dark places in history in which the only language is violence. I hope common sense prevailes and we don't get there.

  • @savrixx

    @savrixx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Year of the PLACEBO! Profane social cataclysm planned for centuries kzread.info/dash/bejne/maOf2JmBpNCYm7w.html weak psyches of the public masses are suggestible to the deconstructionist ideologies and then self creating placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as others, placebo projections of their own boundaries of perceptions that are becoming barriers of perception that further evades unity through reason, truth and foresight.

  • @ck58npj72

    @ck58npj72

    Жыл бұрын

    orthodoxy of the left?

  • @vornado616
    @vornado6162 жыл бұрын

    I really wish our country would make education more accessible. I wish I listened to my grandmother who told me something along the lines of “ take advantage of my offer to financially support you while you finish undergraduate schooling”.. I didn’t take advantage of the opportunity, I thought I knew everything and that life would be how it was forever. I was and still am very naive in that sense. Now I’m 27 years old and I finally appreciate knowledge and education, and DEEPLY yearn for schooling, but it seems almost too late. I can barely support myself without being enrolled in school. Not to sound whiny, but what routes are available for a 27 year old biracial living in a foreign state ( not the state I was born in) , to get the education I wish for, without the worry of homelessness in the present or future? I feel embarrassed asking such a question on a KZread comment section, but in my experience, the knowledge and process of an almost 30 year old putting things on hold to peruse education isn’t widely known. Appreciate any advice or suggestions!

  • @carolblume5073

    @carolblume5073

    2 жыл бұрын

    Join the military. Best thing I ever did. Paid for my degree and helped me buy my home.

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker2 жыл бұрын

    dont apologize in your intro here, Lawrence-- these points are way overdue!

  • @clepsydra9
    @clepsydra9 Жыл бұрын

    Love Krauss and how he shows what liberals should be about - open to discussion. Must confess I am not so sure MacDonald is similarly open.

  • @TheCondomconnor
    @TheCondomconnor2 жыл бұрын

    She must be one of the most intelligent women in America.

  • @bluecollarred6912
    @bluecollarred6912 Жыл бұрын

    As a general rule I tend to not take people like Mac Donald seriously when they make unsupported broad statements and spout out one line political talking points as answers to complex issues that took centuries to get to the point they are today. If you find yourself agreeing with everything any political party says then your critical thinking has been co-opted by the state

  • @alexherbert9404
    @alexherbert9404 Жыл бұрын

    Watching Lawrence trying to disagree whilst he clearly agrees is deliciously painful....and sad.

  • @roxee57
    @roxee572 жыл бұрын

    Interesting choice of language. Using “gender bias” when the group you’re actually talking about is woman, which is fine to talk about. However if the nugget you’re getting at is sex differences then using “gender bias” to talk about it leaves the door open for inclusion of transgender people who are claiming to be women based on that word gender and it giving them the identity of woman based on it. How can you talk about sex differences using the term gender these days in this crazy upside down language creates reality world we’re living in?

  • @world_musician

    @world_musician

    2 жыл бұрын

    see the stance on race. it doesnt exist but everything is based on it

  • @GoNutsDK

    @GoNutsDK

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@world_musician It exists because we invented it and not because there is truth to it

  • @nandrumacparlan4086

    @nandrumacparlan4086

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for bring attention to the use of the term "gender" ias substitution of the biological catagory of "sex". This is a hugely important issue.

  • @bitdropout

    @bitdropout

    2 жыл бұрын

    “gender" should be interchangeable with "sex". There's an ongoing attempt to re-define what gender means

  • @ck58npj72

    @ck58npj72

    Жыл бұрын

    It's ok snowflake, maybe you should read a book or something...lol.

  • @kap925
    @kap9252 жыл бұрын

    Heather is 100% spot on! Lawrence is still hedging a bit, unable to fully break from his ingrained liberal bias/orientation.

  • @TheWhitehiker

    @TheWhitehiker

    2 жыл бұрын

    I noticed that also!

  • @spiritualpolitics8205

    @spiritualpolitics8205

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Almost nobody on the center-left can bravely front the hard-left.

  • @duncanweller1
    @duncanweller12 жыл бұрын

    One aspect of indigenous culture here in Northwestern Ontario, and likely elsewhere in Canada is a very personable and welcoming attitude towards family members and friends where being social is considered more important than anything else - to a fault. So many students don't study like they should because they are expected to welcome any visitor, to join in any excursion or social gathering they are invited to. School work and attending classes on time is not seen as important. The focus on the social present is more important than the focus on the future that benefits the individual. So, what is apparently beneficial to one culture (indigenous) is not beneficial for another. BUT, neither is this approach a negative, just a different way of living. It's only a negative if you assume indigenous people SHOULD be like other cultures. Unfortunately individual indigenous people who want to excel in "Western" culture may interpret their inability to excel to a lack of mental ability, poverty, bad parenting, etc. (which it could be, but not necessarily). They may blame themselves rather than see where opportunities and barriers exist. It must be hard to live in one culture whose benefits are immediate and not long term and never be able to understand the larger forces out there that work against them. This happens I think to everyone to some degree and sometimes we simply don't want to join a rat race, like in a university setting where professors are often status mongering more than they care for the dissemination of knowledge. I think we need to take the approach of Finland when it comes to schooling and experiment with new models for education. And of course, for you Americans, you need far better funding.

  • @kingclover1395
    @kingclover1395 Жыл бұрын

    I've got an explanation for why all of this has happened. The original civil rights people believed that the only thing that black people needed was civil rights legislation, and that after the civil rights legislation was passed black Americans would show everyone what they were made of and start behaving like everyone else. Well, that never happened. So what the black intellectuals had to do was come up with more reasons, other than civil rights, for black underachievement. And ever since then it's been one new explanation after another. Until finally they just gave up and decided that the only thing left to do was to forbid everybody to talk about it or think about it, and even to notice it. And that's where we are today.

  • @ughugh3556
    @ughugh35562 жыл бұрын

    "The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm"

  • @awuma
    @awuma2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, in astrophysics there are MANY superb female candidates for graduate school. I was very impressed by both the men and the women in a recent cohort I evaluated. There were no imposed quotas or the like, but the choices are somewhat random given the high quality of the applicants. Although there are many female professors now, the older professors with twenty or thirty years standing are more often male rather than female, since the demographics of the student population have changed since they were hired, and this can cause natural tensions.

  • @MarkMackenzievortism

    @MarkMackenzievortism

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cool. Was there better?

  • @bitdropout

    @bitdropout

    2 жыл бұрын

    It seems unlikely there will ever be parity in fields where exceptional brain power is required. Arbitrarily taking an IQ of 130 as a measure of exceptional intelligence. 2x as many males as females. With ethnicity the ratio is much higher. Population adjusted figures give a difference between ethnic groups as high as 30x (at IQ 130).

  • @ck58npj72

    @ck58npj72

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MarkMackenzievortism Can you comprehend?

  • @symmetrie_bruch
    @symmetrie_bruch8 ай бұрын

    38:33 exactly when you take crime into account, the "racist police disappers". if you do the same for crime rates and control for poverty, theres also no difference between black and white and black crime disappers.

  • @joemeyers3127
    @joemeyers31272 жыл бұрын

    The guest seems to make the interviewer very nervous.

  • @philbridges3033
    @philbridges30332 жыл бұрын

    White heterosexual men who buy into woke identity politics fascinate me. The amount of self-loathing it must take would be a fascinating psychological study.

  • @slo-poke1044

    @slo-poke1044

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's gaslighting and it starts when they're young.

  • @symmetrie_bruch
    @symmetrie_bruch8 ай бұрын

    33:15 thank you lawrence for raising that point again, as you also did in your previous talk with heather, and yet again she dodges the core issue again. i mean the biggest predictor of child poverty might be beeing raised by single parent, there are certainly studies to support this, what these studies don´t do is control for income. if you control for income, i.e. if you have a rich or just middleclass single parent, all of sudden that´s no longer the major predictor for child poverty. and that´s not really surprising. look at the richest black neighborhoods, it´s equally as unsurprising that you won´t find gangs there. the only privilege there really is, is money. always has been, always will be. and it´s not like the woke mob doesn´t unciously realize this, as well, that´s why they never mention it because they benefit from that privilege.

  • @GNARGNARHEAD
    @GNARGNARHEAD2 жыл бұрын

    keep fighting the earnest fight

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove20002 жыл бұрын

    Bias is very real. It covers everything and everyone is susceptible.

  • @xenokarasu
    @xenokarasu2 жыл бұрын

    My Gonads approve of this.

  • @spotthedog2313
    @spotthedog23132 жыл бұрын

    Instead of the 'n' word why not substitute another word which we can agree upon. Suggestions: ladder, tadpole snug and so forth and this idea can be extended to other so called trigger or pariah words. On the other hand we could even create words such as bronk, malpo, fuggle and such like. And as for the 'pear' word then if we are not allowed to use then 'pear' does not exist and extrapolating then there is no such thing as being a victim of 'pear'.

  • @ObsoleteTutorials

    @ObsoleteTutorials

    2 жыл бұрын

    whaddup my ladder

  • @skateebee
    @skateebee2 жыл бұрын

    Blue glasses vs red glasses! Coincidence??

  • @lennynnnnnn
    @lennynnnnnn2 жыл бұрын

    Too many commercials. Love listening to you guys. But not the commercials...

  • @lennynnnnnn

    @lennynnnnnn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Every 5 minutes... Sorry guys but not listening to you guys on yt...

  • @aslamtu
    @aslamtu Жыл бұрын

    Completely dismantle DEI departments in all institutions. Expel disruptive students and employees and their enablers. Problem solved.

  • @shuntley23

    @shuntley23

    Жыл бұрын

    But no one wants to admit what the real issues are and want to blame it on white supremacy instead. It saddens me that meritocracy no longer assists while people still claim insitiutional racism :(

  • @sombh1971
    @sombh19712 жыл бұрын

    I think the question of whether there is really a racial bias in cognitive abilities can only be settled when everyone starts out from the same starting point, and so in my opinion, that's what should be striven for, building societies where the children are brought up with loving care in stable families, so that they grow up into wholesome individuals. What's going on right now is complete insanity. And Heather is right in saying that minorities suffer when admitted to classes where their peers are a standard deviation above them in some standardized testing mechanism. In a sense this is doing more harm than anything else, leaving them saddled with unwarranted inferiority complexes that hobble them for life. Right now we ought to double down on healing ourselves and our societies, and in the meantime, maybe take up Heather's suggestion that minorities attend institutions where they are among their peers, so that they can confidently navigate the playing field, and maybe as Lawrence says, have better chances of getting into graduate school than what is currently going on. BTW, they said all this in part-1 and you should listen to that as well.

  • @bitdropout

    @bitdropout

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like you want more of what's been done already. But it didn't work. More and more resources pushed towards single mothers resulted in more and more single mothers.

  • @Libertariun

    @Libertariun

    Жыл бұрын

    @Catherine Golden Keeping the family structure broken gives the left a larger voting base that’s easy to bribe with trinkets. They gave up on the working class after they saw that as the working class grew wealthier they stopped voting for stupid leftist policies. Class war ended sometime in the 80s. Now it’s gender, race and youth that they focus on, having already captured academia, the media, and a large part of the scientific community.

  • @bluecollarred6912

    @bluecollarred6912

    Жыл бұрын

    Segregation has already been tried. Doing more of what brought about the issue to begin with doesn't really seem like an answer to me.

  • @sombh1971

    @sombh1971

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bluecollarred6912 You are not getting the big picture involved here. Segregation at the UG level so that they can match up at the PG level.

  • @kilroy1964
    @kilroy19642 жыл бұрын

    I don't get what you two disagree on.

  • @indiedrumkid
    @indiedrumkid2 жыл бұрын

    I could not make it through this one, KZread putting an ad ever 2-5 mins or so is absolutely ridiculous.😒😒😒 Sorry Lawrence.

  • @glorioskiola

    @glorioskiola

    2 жыл бұрын

    I gave in recently and got KZread premium. I use it a lot for lectures, guitar lessons, music, and art lessons. So worth it. (I don’t get cable TV service.)

  • @indiedrumkid

    @indiedrumkid

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@glorioskiola Spotify is more worth it to me, just waiting for more video content to start up and then I won't need KZread and there brainwashing tactics.😏😏😋😋 plus I don't need to see Lawrence's handsome mug to enjoy any of his material!😁😁

  • @mariusmihai918
    @mariusmihai91811 ай бұрын

    I like Lawrence style and way of aticulating arguments (I am not an atheist). And I hope he and other left wing scientists would try to understand what Trump was standing for. And what Jordan Petterson was standing for since 2015/2016. He foresaw everything.

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 Жыл бұрын

    Free speech is so good, in a positive and negative say.- It exposes the b.s. (as in much of MacDonald speech) and the opposite (as in very little of MacDonald). I thought LK was more liberal but it’s probably because I don’t listen much to him anyways. However, what is true is that identity politics are a muddy field to say the least.

  • @johnmott8047
    @johnmott80472 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence, what exactly don't you agree with?

  • @paigemccormick6519

    @paigemccormick6519

    2 жыл бұрын

    John, this is what I'm thinking.

  • @Grappapappa
    @Grappapappa2 жыл бұрын

    Look at me! I am a critical thinker: Physics is the negative signifier in the void of presence in the absence of any meaning.

  • @pseudonayme7717

    @pseudonayme7717

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can I have some of that word salad please? It looks delicious!😄

  • @savrixx

    @savrixx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Year of the PLACEBO! Profane social cataclysm planned for centuries kzread.info/dash/bejne/maOf2JmBpNCYm7w.html weak psyches of the public masses are suggestible to the deconstructionist ideologies and then self creating placebo racism, placebo mask wearing, placebo self identity as well as others, placebo projections of their own boundaries of perceptions that are becoming barriers of perception that further evades unity through reason, truth and foresight.

  • @willmercury

    @willmercury

    Жыл бұрын

    Your comment is edited, yet remains utterly incoherent.

  • @jonathanclarke281
    @jonathanclarke2812 жыл бұрын

    You're beating a dead horse Lawrie!

  • @et1016
    @et10162 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate being offended; it means I’m learning.

  • @lizabethgussman331
    @lizabethgussman331 Жыл бұрын

    I thought tenure allowed professors to speak their minds.

  • @guywalsh3283
    @guywalsh32832 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence you must let people finish their thoughts, it’s not all about you and your opinion. You cut Heather off far too many times. Glad to see you’re willing to have these conversations though. Congratulations

  • @carolblume5073

    @carolblume5073

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ikr. I want to hear what Heather says! It seems like he gets all shook worrying about what other people will think.

  • @understrings1
    @understrings12 жыл бұрын

    Free speech please!!!! I have gotten offended already when I got air in my lungs for the very first time!!! Other people's opinion just help me even more!!!

  • @johnpenner5182
    @johnpenner518210 ай бұрын

    QUOTAS OVER QUALIFICATIONS 🤔

  • @ughugh3556
    @ughugh35562 жыл бұрын

    When you realize we play the same game generation after generation. 1966 "They have stood facts on their head and juggled black and white, encircled and suppressed revolutionaries, stifled opinions differing from their own, imposed a white terror, and felt very pleased with themselves. They have puffed up the arrogance of the bourgeoisie and deflated the morale of the proletariat. How poisonous!"

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt598111 ай бұрын

    Read Ortega y Gassett's "The Emergence of the Mass Man" (1932!)--Prescient in the direction of Western "civilization ". "Employees " too are a cowardly lot.

  • @iseriver3982
    @iseriver39822 жыл бұрын

    Here's the problem I have with your racial conversation. It's American centric. You want to say that blacks do x and whites do y, then look overseas first. See if your black or white behaviours correlate in different cultures.

  • @carolblume5073

    @carolblume5073

    2 жыл бұрын

    It won't work. No 2nd amendment so no guns. But I've heard the men knife each other a lot.

  • @slo-poke1044

    @slo-poke1044

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why? They're are talking about America.

  • @iseriver3982

    @iseriver3982

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@slo-poke1044 so America is a magical land where everyone acts differently to every where else?

  • @leonardniamh
    @leonardniamh2 жыл бұрын

    I know you deliberately didn't interrupt this persons flow of conversation

  • @micksc1
    @micksc12 жыл бұрын

    I make a joke and youtube deleted it. What’s the point

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber57022 жыл бұрын

    I wish L. Krauss wouldn't seem so wishy washy yet Heather MacDonald is clear as a bell ...

  • @bitdropout

    @bitdropout

    2 жыл бұрын

    He probably doesn't want to be sacked. Understandable. Virually no one else in academia is as willing to challenge wokeness as much as Mr Krauss

  • @matt75hooper
    @matt75hooper2 жыл бұрын

    We love you Heather Mac Donald xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo.

  • @wesscotchdog9078
    @wesscotchdog9078 Жыл бұрын

    No one will be honest. Why the poverty? Why the violence? Culture. Culture. Culture. Fatherlessness, grandma's raising kids, black privilege and fragility, special help, rationalizing bad behavior, excuses. Regardless of race, where these values rule, the result is disaster.

  • @Mr_Tokon
    @Mr_Tokon2 жыл бұрын

    Part 1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2t6p6qOh5TWmdI.html

  • @mflewis1
    @mflewis12 жыл бұрын

    While I understand and have a degree of sympathy with some of points made by Ms MacDonald, many times she made me wince. At one point she said studies show that black people speed at twice the rate of white people. I'd love to know how this was determined. Did someone sit by the side of the road with a clipboard taking a tally or was it determined by the number of speeding tickets? Both methods have major problems. The last time I was stopped for speeding I only got a warning. Would that be true if I was black? I agree that there shouldn't be repercussions for discussing all of this, but that doesn't preclude that much of what she says is BS.

  • @leonais1

    @leonais1

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are exactly proving MacDonald's point. Assuming a study is biased racism because it measures race, assuming a study is oppresive white supremacy bacause it fits the narrative, is exactly the problem of identity politics. Verify the methodology first then start throwing accusations about bad methodology later. If black people are speeding too much then why not take it as an opportunity to save lives by reducing their speeding, and the most likely lives to be saved would be their own, their friends, and their families. Science first, emotion second.

  • @ck58npj72

    @ck58npj72

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@leonais1 blacks get more tickets statistically, why is this hard to understand?

  • @ObsoleteTutorials

    @ObsoleteTutorials

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure she would be delighted that you question her claims, and would send you the data that her claims are based off of. In contrast, if you even remotely question the 'TRUTH of white privilege, oppression, toxic masculinity', your life is done.

  • @wasdwasdedsf

    @wasdwasdedsf

    2 жыл бұрын

    "The last time I was stopped for speeding I only got a warning. Would that be true if I was bl? " are you literally ret-ed?

  • @bluecollarred6912

    @bluecollarred6912

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ck58npj72 Black people are also locked up at way higher rates then whites for marijuana yet marijuana use is pretty similar among White and Black people. This points to over policing in minority areas not that any race is inherently more likely to commit crimes does it not?

  • @clemsonalum98
    @clemsonalum982 жыл бұрын

    This is all the stuff Stefan Molyneux always talked about, backed by facts, and he got deplatformed. Uh oh!

  • @HallsteinI

    @HallsteinI

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stefan once proclaimed that, and this is a quote: African (inheritance/descendance) mothers produce less mother's milk. In context he was talking about r and k breeding strategy and heavily insinuated that (presumably according to him, as he did not bring forward any statistical studies) blacks in particular clearly tended toward r type breeding strategy, conveniently leaving out that human beings as a species tends to adapt mating strategies based on environmental and economical circumstance and we've seen entire countries such as China alter breeding strategies in a little under 40 years to give birth to less than 2 children per couple. Which is to say I think it's fair to say mr. Molyneux's racial leanings are more than a bit slanted towards the extreme as modern biology certainly doesn't support his views that it's a mating strategy chosen by people of a certain race rather than groups of peoples based on their immediate circumstances.

  • @suzannekane617
    @suzannekane6172 жыл бұрын

    Mention or use .

  • @spiritualpolitics8205
    @spiritualpolitics82052 жыл бұрын

    Krauss is brave to host MacDonald but he subtly demonstrates the problem: It is impossible to reasonably discern the difference between: a) a soft center-lefty who can pause before the most strident but solid facts MacDonald adduces, to differ 50% on leftist principle and b) someone who is terrified (as are most mortals) at not virtue-signaling about half the time on a subject as fraught as blacks and the police The two align so utterly that it's difficult to believe a) is what's really going on. It's not so much that there isn't always a claim with any given population X that too much of a generalization has been drawn. It's rather that this can be endlessly used to blunt the momentum and force of MacDonald's arguments at a time of enormous risk from the identitarian hard progressive left. In other words the question has rapidly become zero-sum between the perfervid identitarians and those who wish to save Western civilization. If you don't affix 90% of your biomass in argument toward fighting this stuff, it comes off as the sort of weak-kneed capitulation that got us here. Indeed, unless the average citizen starts pushing back > 60%, we are going to all be lost very soon.

  • @TheWhitehiker

    @TheWhitehiker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spiritual, I couldn't say it better! Thanks.

  • @ck58npj72

    @ck58npj72

    Жыл бұрын

    You are already lost...lol

  • @gup8175
    @gup81752 жыл бұрын

  • @wesscotchdog9078
    @wesscotchdog9078 Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, if 11 months later, the host has remained "liberal" or turned cultist left. This video remains, so maybe.

  • @lizabethgussman331
    @lizabethgussman331 Жыл бұрын

    This all started very innocuously. The suffers of the syndrome anorexia nervosa insisted it be called a disease.

  • @psycho6542
    @psycho65422 жыл бұрын

    Way too many ads, like waaaayy too many, every 2-4 minutes they shove some crap in ur face, guess i'll never finish this

  • @stephenbrewer1985

    @stephenbrewer1985

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sign up for premium service. Never a single Ad. Seeing your post made me realize that I’ve now forgotten how terrible viewing was with the ads.

  • @MarkMackenzievortism

    @MarkMackenzievortism

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a theory that the over abundance of ads is intentional. A form of hecklers veto.

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