Heartbreakingly painful day / Shabani and Kiyomasa at odds

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Video date: October 8, 2023
It will be from the opening to the closing of the park
Many of you know the situation as it has already been uploaded by others.
Kiyomasa has a deep wound on his right hand, which no doubt triggered this incident.
Perhaps Shabani had hurt him the day before.
But I don't think it is Shabani's fault because he is doing what he has to do.
On a personal note, I am very concerned about Nene's health.
On this day, she spent the morning at Shabani and the entire afternoon near Kiyomasa, eating minimal and very little.
There is no doubt that this is taking a heavy toll on her physically and mentally as she turns 51 this year.
We hope that the problem will be resolved soon and that she will have a day of peace and quiet.
#gorilla #shabani #kiyomasa #westernlowlandgorilla #Ape #silverback
Shabani♂
Born October 20, 1996
Place of birth Appenhure Primate Park (Netherlands)
Nene♀
Born in 1972 (estimated)
Africa (wild)
Ai ♀
Born February 27, 2003
Place of birth Higashiyama Zoo
Kiyomasa ♂
Born November 1, 2012
Place of birth Higashiyama Zoo
Annie ♀
June 2, 2013
Place of birth Higashiyama Zoo

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  • @BearFreedom6969
    @BearFreedom69698 ай бұрын

    Japan zoo need to make from bachelor group right away or these gorillas will not survive the stress

  • @sharondunstall709
    @sharondunstall7098 ай бұрын

    I agree that Shabani shows great restraint when Kyomasa continues to “poke the bear.” Shabani is a great Silverback to his family, but HE is the leader. I have loved Kyomasa ever since Annie was born, and AI rejected her. Every day, it was Shabani and Kyomasa who came to visit with Annie to get to know her. Poor Annie, she just wants everyone to get along. ❤

  • @2btpatch
    @2btpatch8 ай бұрын

    Sad to see this happening with Kiyomasa. The physical and mental health of the troop is directly affected by its social dynamics. Remember how thin and stressed Annie became the last time there was a falling out between Kiyomasa and Shabani? And I am also quite concerned about Nene’s health.

  • @flaviablanco8245

    @flaviablanco8245

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you 👍🏻

  • @user-hc7gn6zl2z

    @user-hc7gn6zl2z

    Ай бұрын

    I agree about her health

  • @beth1627
    @beth16278 ай бұрын

    Kiyo is turning into a young silver back and feeling his wild oats, ( experimenting with his dominance and silverbackness). I think he went over the line with Shabani and now Kiyo is having to deal with it. Shabani is king and letting him know it.

  • @xerxezrax
    @xerxezrax8 ай бұрын

    Shabani is incredibly patient and gentle even when he’s attacking. Nene is always doing too much, she protects her son all the time and yet he always harasses her.

  • @staypeace5955

    @staypeace5955

    8 ай бұрын

    Like mother like son. Nene never respects Shabani as silver back. Toto was born in the wild as well but she is a very beautiful, gentle and kind gorilla. No word to describe how bad nene is.

  • @jor6426

    @jor6426

    8 ай бұрын

    @@staypeace5955 Maybe....?......Nene feels she can depend more on Kiyo because of her poor vision...?

  • @claudiadossantosfernandes1094

    @claudiadossantosfernandes1094

    8 ай бұрын

    Kyomassa é muito abusado, só provoca o pai por causa da Nenê que é superprotetora e a AI que quase sempre toma atitudes erradas nesses momentos, Nenê protege Kyomassa que acasalou com ela é as irmãs, Kyomassa está provocando e testando a paciência do lindo Shabani a muito tempo.

  • @beth1627

    @beth1627

    8 ай бұрын

    I would be protecting my son too if his much bigger father was going after him. Nene will always protect her kids.

  • @jor6426

    @jor6426

    8 ай бұрын

    @@beth1627 i agree.

  • @justpiddlin1470
    @justpiddlin14708 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your time and effort putting this together for us

  • @jor6426
    @jor64268 ай бұрын

    I hope the vetrenarians treat his injury. I'm sure the keepers know what happened in the basement. We must remember that this is good practice for Kyio, when he has his own family. The way Shabanis patience is, shows him the same and how to treat his family.😊

  • @gregsutton2400

    @gregsutton2400

    8 ай бұрын

    What he is actually learning is to hide behind his mother and sister and mate both of them.

  • @jor6426

    @jor6426

    8 ай бұрын

    @@gregsutton2400 yes my friend...hiding for now. But when he has his own home, he will see that he has no challenger. Also, if he goes to a bachelor group, he knows what to expect when a disagreement arises. Its practice. Not to nessessary mate. Although, he may try if he us there to long. P.s.- I don't believe that a son nessessary wants to fight a kind father. There is play practice.

  • @jor6426

    @jor6426

    8 ай бұрын

    @@user-yf9vd7nq2y Hi, my friend. I am sorry I can not read your language. I am ignorant to another language, but I have great respect for someone who does know, more than one.🙂

  • @Danielleb723
    @Danielleb7238 ай бұрын

    It is so amazing to me how calculating gorillas can be. They usually don't just react without putting some thought behind it.

  • @kaylie8580
    @kaylie85808 ай бұрын

    Shabani did nothing wrong, he needs to put Kiyo and Nene in their place. They don’t respect him as the leader, he is very patient and loving which seems to be taken advantage of.

  • @sowhat7472

    @sowhat7472

    8 ай бұрын

    Looks like he did put Kiyomasa in his place.

  • @bigboytoyz541

    @bigboytoyz541

    8 ай бұрын

    He especially needs to put nene in her place.

  • @staypeace5955

    @staypeace5955

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@bigboytoyz541yes. She is the first problem in the group. And then his spoiled brat son.

  • @bigboytoyz541

    @bigboytoyz541

    8 ай бұрын

    @@staypeace5955 👍👍

  • @beth1627

    @beth1627

    8 ай бұрын

    Shabani is on edge and it's not good for the troop. They are fearful when he's like this.

  • @laurielau
    @laurielau8 ай бұрын

    Ai and Nene are fierce defenders of Kiyomasa . Sweet Annie is concerned for everyone . The keepers did a great job of monitoring the situation . In a few clips you can see them watching and then they made sure to put food on the gates to entice the troop to eat. It is just my opinion. But thank you @JapaneseZoo for doing such a great job with these videos and presenting them without taking sides and always sticking to the facts ❤

  • @brendabrewster7560

    @brendabrewster7560

    8 ай бұрын

    Pray 😅he heals up. Any possibility. Of fx?? He is y

  • @brendabrewster7560

    @brendabrewster7560

    8 ай бұрын

    He is young a male and yes it is his Dad and leader. I'm asking to plz keep us aware of his health and especially QUEEN NENE I call her this my heart breaks at time for this strong lady she may be a grouchy any time she wishes she is elderly and I love the lady. Does she need anything special to sleep on at night or she is feeling bad??? Thank you for allowing us to see their life you are kind to do so. Love to this beautiful troop....❤❤❤❤

  • @ellenknell9645
    @ellenknell96458 ай бұрын

    I hate seeing this happen to my fav gorilla troop, but that's all a part of gorilla life. Let's hope all settles down like before and harmony sets in. Yes, Nene concerns me as well. God bless her.

  • @pigtailsandteddybears
    @pigtailsandteddybears8 ай бұрын

    I hate seeing when they have problems. 😔 I feel for Annie the most. Such a sweetheart who is worried about her dad. And I'm sure she's worried about Kiyo but she seems more focused on Shabani. Sweet girl.❤ (You can see more of Annie's concern for Shabani in a seperate video that just came out displaying this same day.) (4:57 Nene's faces kill me everytime 😂)

  • @angeresists5493

    @angeresists5493

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, I saw that video and thought the same thing, she knows just how much Shabani has protected her over the years, and how much he loves her. You're so right, she's such a sweetheart and loves her dad and family so much that when this type of drama happens it truly affects her health...

  • @jor6426

    @jor6426

    8 ай бұрын

    I worry about her reaction when she must leave her father. This is one reason why I believe Gentaro would be perfect for her. He's gentle like Shabani. Even more, like D'jeeco. Its to bad Riki is her relative. He's a good choice for a great Silverback.

  • @pigtailsandteddybears

    @pigtailsandteddybears

    8 ай бұрын

    @@angeresists5493 I agree wholeheartedly. 😔 I'm worried she's going to get really skinny again like earlier this year when Shabani and Kiyo had that fight.

  • @pigtailsandteddybears

    @pigtailsandteddybears

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jor6426 Aw, yes! I would love to see her and Gentaro together the most. Is D'Jeeco in her bloodline? I could see her with him as well. (I would just worry to death for her around Iriki and Tayari.) And omg, Riki would be perfect. I love how he is with Sumomo and his mother. I'm also worried about when she has to leave, too. I think Shabani is going to take it extremely hard, even when Kiyo leaves. Regardless of their fights, Shabani adores Kiyo. (Still grooms him!) Thats why I really want him to have another baby as a distraction. This whole thing is heartbreaking!

  • @jodib679

    @jodib679

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jor6426I’ve heard rumors they may put Gentaro with one of Djeecos wives…

  • @Kiowa371
    @Kiowa3718 ай бұрын

    You did a excellent job explaining the situation. I hope Kiyo’s hand don’t become infected. Poor Annie, she is so torn between her dad and Kiyo. This makes me sad. They really need to get Kiyo out of there.

  • @ivanalovemore1686

    @ivanalovemore1686

    15 күн бұрын

    yes, he needs to go to a bachelor group and then someday have his own troop. These 2 males are still together in 2024 and still issues.

  • @karenthompson8151
    @karenthompson81518 ай бұрын

    I do love this family as well as everyone else. Shabani is a wonderful father and silverback. This is life lessons for Kiyo. Shabani could really hurt him and other members of the troop if he really wanted to. He is showing alot of restraint knowing himself that this is Kiyo reaching adulthood and the lessons that come with it. Shabani is the leader and he has to show the troop from time to time who he is and where he stands. None of us really know or understand the true dynamics within a gorilla troop. We all have our opinions of how we feel about this situation and we can agree and disagree with each other. We all know that it is time for Kiyo to leave the family which will be a sad day but life has to go on for the next generation. Hopefully things will settle back down soon and we can enjoy watching what time we have left with them all together

  • @kells1784

    @kells1784

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree 💯 with what you said! This is all life lessons for Kiyo. He has to learn the hierarchy of the troop and how important it is! Shabani is the only one who can teach him that! Kiyo has to learn. As you said, Shabani could do serious damage to all of them if he really wanted to! He is showing a lot of restraint here, but he will only take so much. Some people don't understand that these are natural behaviours for Gorillas. I think some people forget they're Gorillas and not humans lol! I saw that Shabani has a sore hand aswell. Obviously, we don't know what happened in the basement, but I'm thinking Kiyo has overstepped and hurt Shabani's hand, and then he retaliated. Gorillas aren't aggressive primates unless they feel threatened or are attacked. So I don't think he would have bitten Kiyo like that for nothing.

  • @aliforeman5532
    @aliforeman55328 ай бұрын

    10:11 She is old, but very brave. She has the spirit of the samurai.

  • @beth1627

    @beth1627

    8 ай бұрын

    Nene is fierce!

  • @stevemorris6790

    @stevemorris6790

    8 ай бұрын

    She is a pain in the neck, even do wrong for her son when he have to battle against other gorillas and mom wouldn’t be there!

  • @Bella_Rose.2023

    @Bella_Rose.2023

    4 ай бұрын

    Nene would protect Kiyo to the death

  • @Key-Boo
    @Key-Boo8 ай бұрын

    ネネさんもアイちゃん、キヨマサくんの事で眠れてなさそうだな。 ネネさんの年齢考えるとキヨマサくんを大切にしてるから、本当に心配。 アニーちゃんもお腹ぺったんこになってきてるし、誰かお腹壊してる💩が落ちてる。 動物園側で、ゴリラ舎を半分にするとか、何らかの対策が必要だよね。

  • @michaelcalland801
    @michaelcalland8018 ай бұрын

    It's facinating how much communication is going on without a spoken word. Every movement, gesture, look no matter how subtle carries great meaning. These creatures are so in tune with one another that it's if they just instinctively know what each other are thinking.

  • @lyndamac1058
    @lyndamac10588 ай бұрын

    I think she there is so much tension and stress they need to get the people out. With Kiyo's hand wound there must have been a fight early morning in the basement. I like Annie she joins in the fight but doesn't lol

  • @01maggie
    @01maggie8 ай бұрын

    Dad is Dad and no child can decide to rule the household except Dad! Shabani is doing what he has to do no matter how painful it is . I love watching the females intervene to calm Shabani down. They are truly special ladies. ❤

  • @karenzaller9659
    @karenzaller96598 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for the running discourse that helped explain the situation. It is quite amazing to see the hierarchy even in the troop of gorillas. Once again, thank you very much it’s very enjoyable.

  • @seasonsofphilly1993
    @seasonsofphilly19938 ай бұрын

    Nene is old, even for gorilla in captivity. I'm surmise the recent tensions in the gorilla house have her stressed. I'm sure her keepers are monitoring her health.

  • @terrismith3359
    @terrismith33598 ай бұрын

    Kiyomasa is a chicken! Hides behind his mom and Ai. He needs to be moved ASAP! This situation between Shabani and Kiyomasa is escalating and someone’s going to get hurt or killed.

  • @csillafrank1348
    @csillafrank13488 ай бұрын

    Kyo should be living in his own family, not with his parents and sisters. In captivity, males must be weaned at the age of 8-9. Gentaro is 11 years old in the Kyoto Zoo, and there are already regular problems between him and the silverback father (Momotaro), which is natural behaviour (as between Kyo and Shabani). This is the responsibility of the (gorilla) species coordinator... Sad...

  • @beth1627

    @beth1627

    8 ай бұрын

    He would be venturing out on his own now due to obvious problems happening now. It would be time to started distancing himself from the troop.

  • @livieandevie

    @livieandevie

    8 ай бұрын

    There is no family for Kyo to go to He would have to be with an all male group since there are no females available that are not related to him. Such a sad situation

  • @liafigueiredo3708

    @liafigueiredo3708

    8 ай бұрын

    Os Zoológicos do Japão não tem um planejamento para troca ou intercâmbio de animais com outros zoológicos do mundo? Vão esperar o que??

  • @brownrabbit61

    @brownrabbit61

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, here in England a 10 year old Lope has recently been separated from his family at Twycross Zoo in order to avoid this situation. He is currently living alone in his "bachelor pad", and there are plans to move him to a bachelor group in Europe soon. He will eventually have his own troop. Shabani wasn't much older than this when he was sent from Australia to Japan.

  • @rosemarysynnott6544

    @rosemarysynnott6544

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@brownrabbit61So pleased to hear Lope will get a future family. His younger brother will live his long years never experiencing this which is incredibly sad😢

  • @NatashaShishkareva-qe4eg
    @NatashaShishkareva-qe4eg8 ай бұрын

    Все будет хорошо, скоро все успокоятся и будет мир и покой. Такое иногда случается❤❤❤😊

  • @staypeace5955

    @staypeace5955

    8 ай бұрын

    Maybe not. If Kiyomasa continues to mate with all the females in the groups.

  • @solaknitez

    @solaknitez

    8 ай бұрын

    @@staypeace5955 if they are on birth control, it doesn't matter-but the silverback is in charge, so he should discourage it. it's rare that wild gorillas mate with their siblings...but these are captive. Urges are there-best to get Kiyomasa out.

  • @chericonnolly4810
    @chericonnolly48108 ай бұрын

    My heart goes out to all these silverbacks in Japan!!! Having to put up with their eldest son disrupting the troop , it's just not fair. They are stuck in the situation because of humans. We have not done enough to help these animals, that we keep in captivty! They should all feel safe on a daily basis! Situations like this with Shabani and Momotaro should not be taking place! Something has to be done with these zoos!

  • @louiseburke4783

    @louiseburke4783

    8 ай бұрын

    100% correct!!

  • @dudadossantos3646

    @dudadossantos3646

    8 ай бұрын

    E o coitado do Shabani tem que suportar a velha nene que sempre fica arrumando problemas!!

  • @user-nv1sj7zx5w
    @user-nv1sj7zx5w8 ай бұрын

    そろそろ自ら群れを離れるお年頃なのに動物園だと自分の居場所さえ無いのが難点だわ~ 園が良い計画を進めていると信じたいわ~

  • @sct3339

    @sct3339

    8 ай бұрын

    Troop, not herd

  • @TheFlashyWeasel

    @TheFlashyWeasel

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@sct3339translation issues.. puppy, herd, etc..

  • @birgitdeppe6742

    @birgitdeppe6742

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@sct3339🙄

  • @nephtari
    @nephtari8 ай бұрын

    Kiyo needs his own troop.

  • @sonjavandam1306
    @sonjavandam13068 ай бұрын

    This situation is beyond sad, I feel like I'm wasting my energy trying to find the reason they are dragging their feet.$$$ 🤔

  • @johngammon963
    @johngammon9638 ай бұрын

    God bless these gorillas and Japanese Zoo.

  • @sandraphillips1718
    @sandraphillips17188 ай бұрын

    Shabani is so stressed.😔😔☹️

  • @erikb8979
    @erikb89798 ай бұрын

    Thank you for these great vids. Your friend from indiana USA

  • @stevemorris6790
    @stevemorris67908 ай бұрын

    Shabani should put Nene and Ai in their place as they are doing no favor to the troop. Do like D’jecco does in order to bring harmony to the troop!

  • @laurelanneselby2801
    @laurelanneselby28018 ай бұрын

    0:21 I have enjoyed watching this chanel for a few months now and have fallen in love with all the troup, each so individual and their so absolutely human likeness, every post is amazing. Watching the last few days unfold is so heartbreaking. To see Shabani and family like this, as much as Kiyomasa's defiance is about him growing up and probably normal behaviour for a male gorilla it still saddens me to see the troupes reactions. Shabani showing so much restraint towards Kiyomasa, poor Nene copping the brunt and Kiyomasa himself with his wound is more than sad, it really grabs at the heart. Hoping everything returns to normal for these beautiful creatures and the staff who look after them, as well the very special person who films and posts these clips for the world to see, you are an amazing person and conveyed what happened perfectly, thank you. Love to all, especially the most handsome Gorilla - Shabani xx

  • @blessiejovita2547
    @blessiejovita25478 ай бұрын

    Nene needs to go to DJeeco troop so DJ will put her in place. Tayari can come to Shabani. Bet she's gonna be happier here than where she's at now.

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely, I think Ai & Tay would get along quite well.

  • @noragriffin6432

    @noragriffin6432

    8 ай бұрын

    What happens to Tabali? Does he stay with his father DJ? Is that better or worse than going with Tayari?

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    @@noragriffin6432 It's just wishful thinking, they would never send any gorillas to Japan.

  • @micanecorso9677
    @micanecorso96778 ай бұрын

    We will have to get used to seeing these situations more often, because it seems that the zoo does not think about making decisions about it. I'm worried about Annie, she seems to lose weight every time something happens conflict. Nené abuses Shabani's patience, with her fragility, he could blow a little and she would fall unconscious.

  • @stevemorris6790

    @stevemorris6790

    8 ай бұрын

    True!

  • @patriciaarthur329
    @patriciaarthur3298 ай бұрын

    Regardless of what's happening rt now, I can't help but think how beautiful they all are.

  • @rickarra1833
    @rickarra18338 ай бұрын

    Looks like someone got a little attitude adjustment downstairs. Oh well, that il' happen. Sometimes Daddy needs to show who's Boss

  • @PIA-tj5hc
    @PIA-tj5hc8 ай бұрын

    It’s really unfortunate the Netherland agreed to send Shabani & Haoko to Japan. The zookeepers do a fabulous job but management sucks!!!!These beautiful families deserve better than Japan zoo!!!!

  • @Charlotte-r

    @Charlotte-r

    8 ай бұрын

    Just a little history: In 1996, Kibabu and his troop transferred from the Netherlands to the Taronga Zoo in Australia. In 2007, Haoko and Shabani were transferred from Taronga Zoo to Japan.

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    If only Taronga park knew it was a mistake, but really putting 2 brothers in the same continent was pretty dumb..

  • @stevemorris6790

    @stevemorris6790

    8 ай бұрын

    @@sonjavandam1306, why Taronga zoo agreed to sent the 2 brothers to Japan? Didn’t they know about japan and the poor management of the animals?

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    @@stevemorris6790 obviously they didn't know or they wouldn't have sent them. Both Apenheul & Taronga have a great reputation for breeding. Apenheul owns them.🤔

  • @livieandevie

    @livieandevie

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@sonjavandam1306 I wish they would send Kyo to one of those zoos. He would have no relatives there, and possibly be able to have his own family

  • @truthxposed8975
    @truthxposed89758 ай бұрын

    SUCH A DEPRESSING ENCLOSURE.

  • @HerrStaale
    @HerrStaale8 ай бұрын

    No wonder they go nuts, kids screaming all day, no peace at all.. This will end as we all suspect.. Great job Zoo.

  • @ZombieQueen819
    @ZombieQueen8198 ай бұрын

    I love the Shabani gorilla family troop❤❤❤,,, Annie was staying behind the other ladies to show her Dad that he is number 1 to her, (I love the love Annie has for her Daddy) I know that Nene will protect Kiyomasa as long as he’s in the troop that’s a Mother’s love for her child. But still trying to figure out why Ai is protecting Kiyomasa too,, is it really because of Nene being so dominant over Ai,, And Ai always wanting to please Nene all time. Shabani is the best silverback I love that great big handsome guy ❤❤❤

  • @JB19504
    @JB195048 ай бұрын

    This zoo needs to provide a softer surface for the gorillas to rest on instead of concrete. As they age, they will develop joint problems from the cold hard floor that they rest on. This is not a very expensive fix. Hopefully someone at the zoo monitors these comments and can speak English.

  • @ninawest8
    @ninawest88 ай бұрын

    Not again,bad news , just found out Matadi died from the Netherlands, he was so young and a gentle father. First it was young Bauwi ( Shebani and Hoako's brother) and now this, breaks my heart💔

  • @rosemarysynnott6544

    @rosemarysynnott6544

    8 ай бұрын

    Very sad news😢

  • @Buba417

    @Buba417

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, devastating news.

  • @GorillasAndGardens
    @GorillasAndGardens8 ай бұрын

    Is Shanbani’s hand also injured?

  • @svongmskye4879
    @svongmskye48798 ай бұрын

    May be it’s time for Kyo and Gentaro to move into a Bachelor group

  • @IamAdrienne
    @IamAdrienne2 ай бұрын

    Great narration!

  • @eagleblack6254
    @eagleblack62548 ай бұрын

    Spero che finisca presto, fa male vedere Shabani e la sua famiglia litigare, Nene che difende suo figlio nonostante i suoi anni, Annie che ama sia Kiyomasa che suo padre,Ai anche lei li ama. Mi dispiace davvero tanto per Shabani e Kiyomasa, insomma hanno le loro dinamiche ma è Shabani il capo truppa e se Kiyomasa lo provoca fa bene a reagire, amori belli speriamo bene. Video pieno di emozioni, grazie!❤️🍀❤️

  • @myradevereaux1288
    @myradevereaux12888 ай бұрын

    👍🏽 this was very well put together and documented. Well done ❤

  • @muriel7100
    @muriel71008 ай бұрын

    😮 grand compétitions entre le père et fils kiyomasa 😮 merci pour vos vidéos c'est triste de les voire comme ça j'espère que tout reviendra à la normale

  • @lauyongmao2869
    @lauyongmao28698 ай бұрын

    Did anyone notice shabani I walking the same way as Kiyo with his wirst 😮

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes I caught that too, strange.

  • @livieandevie

    @livieandevie

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes! I was thinking the same thing! That is very strange

  • @vparkerrd96

    @vparkerrd96

    8 ай бұрын

    I was thinking Shabani was having sympathetic hand pain. He tries to be a good dad but that Nene. She’s a character. She thinks she’s the boss.

  • @alexk9295

    @alexk9295

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, but not as severely. I'm glad Kyiomasa got a punch in at least

  • @reneegordon506
    @reneegordon5068 ай бұрын

    Kiyomasa needs to take care of his wounds before he ends up getting more! What is happening with them??

  • @aruba531
    @aruba5318 ай бұрын

    Has anyone noticed that at 5:37 Shabani also is walking on his right wrist like his son is now?

  • @rosemarysynnott6544

    @rosemarysynnott6544

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, hope he is OK, cannot imagine the stress he is going through with not wanting to hurt his son but having to show dominance.

  • @mapalieymartin3171
    @mapalieymartin31718 ай бұрын

    Kiyomasa is drama queen and Nene is too spoilt him rotten.

  • @williamshepley3923
    @williamshepley39238 ай бұрын

    I wonder if Shabani had Kiyomasas hand in his mouth, doing that playing submission game? But sometimes I've seen it go to far,like the beast within kicks in. I hope Shabani restores order as it's weird how they all followed Kiyomasa around in a constant dodge Shabani game.🦍🦍

  • @sowhat7472

    @sowhat7472

    8 ай бұрын

    That is this troop’s normal behavior during times of conflict.

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    It's hard to restore order when granny & her daughter barking & chasing him. Poor Shabani he can't win no matter what.

  • @bgardner312
    @bgardner3128 ай бұрын

    They need to separate them before they seriously hurt each other and Kiyomasa needs a doctor not a vet to repair his hand. His hand is pretty bad.. Im watching this on a 50 inch tv screen and those are deep wounds. 🤬 Shame on this zoo.

  • @davecooke7868
    @davecooke78688 ай бұрын

    Amazing gorillas ❤❤❤

  • @christinebraeuner8275
    @christinebraeuner82752 ай бұрын

    HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY SHABANI 🦍🥳🎊🎉🥰💝🎁🎂

  • @sandraphillips1718
    @sandraphillips17188 ай бұрын

    You can see the stress and tension among the troop. 😢

  • @sputnik459
    @sputnik4598 ай бұрын

    i agree, Nene lives this troubles with her son... i hope Nene have some peacefull days really soon.

  • @staypeace5955

    @staypeace5955

    8 ай бұрын

    Actually she is the source of the problems. The troops will have a peaceful life without her.😂😂

  • @sassillama9873
    @sassillama98738 ай бұрын

    So nice to see them in their natural habitat

  • @kimhaveman3628
    @kimhaveman36288 ай бұрын

    It might be about time for Kyomasa to find his own family. This happened with another young black back Lope. His father started to push him out and they had to separate him. They are planning a new family group for him. Just love this family.

  • @tuckergraham846
    @tuckergraham8463 ай бұрын

    Kiyomasa s hands and feet are huge!! 👍👍👍

  • @consciouscreator3366
    @consciouscreator33668 ай бұрын

    Shabani is so great! I feel bad for him in ways! I hope eveything gets back to normal!

  • @Zero_Cool_007
    @Zero_Cool_0078 ай бұрын

    In the wild blackback male gorillas usually leave the group they were born in when they're around 8 years old or so. But I've seen videos out here of gorilla groups in the wild having multiple silverbacks, so I don't know. However, here it looks like it might be time for Kiyomasa to go. Either to be placed by himself somewhere or to be given a group of his own somewhere. Because it's obvious that the stress is taking it's toll on the entire group. I suppose he could stop challenging Shabani someday. But he could also continue to challenge Shabani until something REALLY bad happens. In my opinion though, the longer Kiyomasa stays with the group, the worse it's going to be when he eventually IS separated from the group.

  • @Le_coq_sportiff
    @Le_coq_sportiff8 ай бұрын

    Its time for kyo to move out n run his own show n shabani deserves a new wife or 2 or 3 he needs sum good loven🤞

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely.😉

  • @livieandevie

    @livieandevie

    8 ай бұрын

    Shabani would LOVE Tayari! 😂

  • @gracedomingo4935
    @gracedomingo49358 ай бұрын

    It would be nice if food was placed in containers so that it's not just on the floor, it seems they like their food to be clean.

  • @sandraphillips1718
    @sandraphillips17188 ай бұрын

    Remember, Shabani loves his son Kiyo very much in spite of what's going on between them.

  • @staypeace5955

    @staypeace5955

    8 ай бұрын

    And as a return he bullied him with his old mom.

  • @user-po7js1nn3l
    @user-po7js1nn3l2 ай бұрын

    これも致し方無いと思うのです…シルバーバックとブラックバックがいつまでも仲良くしてる…その方が可怪しい気がします。子供たちが順調に成長している証しです❤🎉

  • @sheryl6038
    @sheryl60388 ай бұрын

    I think Kiyomasa might need stitches in his finger. That wound looked really deep. Kiyo needs to stop pushing his father. He ought to know that if Shabani wanted he could really hurt him. I wonder if there had been a fight in their sleeping quarters. Does anyone know what the sleeping arrangements are for the troop? If you could let me know I’d be so glad.

  • @sct3339
    @sct33398 ай бұрын

    So when they have injuries like this, do you treat the injury or let nature take its course and if you do treat it, how do you treat the injury?

  • @sonjavandam1306

    @sonjavandam1306

    8 ай бұрын

    From what I learnt about the last fight where Ai was hurt, gorillas have a natural antiseptic in their saliva. Licking the wound helps. Don't quote me on that, it's something that was said. True or not.🤔

  • @consuelopando9414
    @consuelopando94148 ай бұрын

    Sabanis quiere mostrar su liderazgo pq lo está perdiendo pero es increíble como se defienden esas hembras amo a Nene con 51 anos que bienestar Sabanis le tiene miedo es una fiera defendiendo su hijo tan bella la amo

  • @obappooblada8202
    @obappooblada82025 ай бұрын

    ネネさんの周り込みも素晴らしいですが、シャバーニの後ろ歩きが😍 あっ!まだ続きがある。

  • @VM-1964
    @VM-19642 ай бұрын

    Pls keep refreshing us about how each one is related to the other...that wd make the watch more interesting and meaningful

  • @magneticjanet5881
    @magneticjanet58818 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget it’s Shabani that has taught Kiyomasa how to fight

  • @user-dt7tw7df3u
    @user-dt7tw7df3u8 ай бұрын

    難しい年頃で大人になってかきたキヨマサ、色々と悩みとかあるんだろうね。

  • @PraiseHIMthroughthestorm
    @PraiseHIMthroughthestorm8 ай бұрын

    So here is another Gentaro situation. Getting to the age challenging the alpha. Only difference….Mama Genki stays out of it..Nene will not. This is all wrong. This straps Shabani 😢 Poor Shab’s ❤ Edit; Shab’s also walking on one of his wrists. Possible injury. 💔

  • @maryharris2629

    @maryharris2629

    8 ай бұрын

    The zookeepers & this troop seems more concerned about Kiyomasa's injury. Nobody is concerned about Shabani's possible injury or the ongoing stress he is experiencing.

  • @PraiseHIMthroughthestorm

    @PraiseHIMthroughthestorm

    8 ай бұрын

    @@maryharris2629Unless they checked him & we didn’t see. Let’s hope this is the case.

  • @eridan565
    @eridan5658 ай бұрын

    Kiyo and nene need to go or shabani really will be forced into hurting them badly one day 😢

  • @KMichealElite.
    @KMichealElite.5 ай бұрын

    That was really sad,, when kiyo went to show the zookeeper his hand, he was actually watching his back .. please dont fight guys, be good to eachother

  • @Danielle0722
    @Danielle07228 ай бұрын

    Just coming across this page. Did the keepers get to take a look at his injury & possible treat it?

  • @patrickflug4605
    @patrickflug46058 ай бұрын

    Its better to find Kiyo a new home sooner than later.

  • @mentayflor
    @mentayflor8 ай бұрын

    Yo creo que en Japon van a tener que formar un grupo de bachelors con Gentaro y kiyomasha. Entre ellos se van a entender muy bien.

  • @SoniaGL
    @SoniaGL8 ай бұрын

    Shabani also walks on his right wrist, due to the abundant fur at times it cannot be seen, and Annie looks insistently at the right side of his back. Sabani shows no signs of being hurt but that doesn't mean he hasn't been bitten. Although they have explained to us many times that it is a natural process, it is still sad. Greetings to all.

  • @magneticjanet5881
    @magneticjanet58818 ай бұрын

    Nene is a moma bear when it comes to protecting Kiyomasa. The other females seem to agree and are taking his side against Shabani.

  • @koookimama
    @koookimama8 ай бұрын

    家族に何かあると、みんな精神的にやられてしまう。 本当に繊細な生き物。 思春期な息子は、人間も動物も対応が大変ですね😞 パパっ子のキヨマサ、早く元気になるといいです。

  • @olgaarca6423
    @olgaarca64238 ай бұрын

    I get very sad when I see them fighting they are amazing family ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢😢

  • @magneticjanet5881
    @magneticjanet58818 ай бұрын

    The whole family is upset and not eating when the males are fighting

  • @cielourbano811
    @cielourbano8118 ай бұрын

    Shabani se pasa de bueno...💞💞💞 Creo que Kishomasa se aísla para provocarlo, parece que buscara conseguir el liderazgo. Kiyomasa se me mete con Shabani y despues corre a protegerse con las Gorilas... Así cualquiera

  • @PIA-tj5hc
    @PIA-tj5hc8 ай бұрын

    If Japan zoo had made preparations this wouldn’t be an issue!!!!

  • @may_laytrucker3127
    @may_laytrucker31278 ай бұрын

    Kiyomosa causing so much troubles to family 😌

  • @sct3339
    @sct33398 ай бұрын

    This is not a herd of animals. Herds are predominately the " hoofed" animals. Gorilla groups are called " Troops" not herds. SMH you should know this

  • @conniemorgan8402

    @conniemorgan8402

    8 ай бұрын

    I think that all of us lovers of these gorillas know this.. the main thing, I think is that everyone here knew what was meant.. understanding trumps correct terminology and is really what matters most.. I misspeak sometimes, I think that we all do. But, we understood what was being said, that’s the important thing.

  • @TheFlashyWeasel

    @TheFlashyWeasel

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@conniemorgan8402translation errors.. they are not perfect... 😊

  • @sct3339

    @sct3339

    8 ай бұрын

    @@conniemorgan8402 somebody new to the gorilla world would not know the correct terminology and would go around calling them a herd when in actuality, their a troop correct terminology is important.

  • @MP-jo1qs

    @MP-jo1qs

    8 ай бұрын

    @@sct3339 Relax, it's translated from Japanese.

  • @deadsmoke198

    @deadsmoke198

    8 ай бұрын

    Machine translate often has problems with with Japanese.

  • @maryharris2629
    @maryharris26298 ай бұрын

    I've never seen this place look so filthy!!!

  • @micanecorso9677

    @micanecorso9677

    8 ай бұрын

    It's true, but then I remember the Kyoto Zoo and this place looks like a clean hospital.

  • @TRIPLEP_PrayPrayPray
    @TRIPLEP_PrayPrayPray8 ай бұрын

    These animals look like they'd be happier in their natural habitat :(

  • @marbear4273
    @marbear42738 ай бұрын

    AI is so pretty I love when she does that mouth thing like her mother Nene and she has beautiful fur

  • @sandraphillips1718
    @sandraphillips17188 ай бұрын

    I hope things work out with this troop.

  • @jjeenn66
    @jjeenn663 ай бұрын

    8:33 Shabani mirrors Kiyomasa injured walk!

  • @patrickbateman7122
    @patrickbateman71228 ай бұрын

    So cruel keeping them in there 😔

  • @katsnina
    @katsnina8 ай бұрын

    Why is there poop everywhere the zoo keepers need to do better 😢

  • @chuloferso23
    @chuloferso238 ай бұрын

    So sad to have these animals in small places. They need a bigger and with vegetation.

  • @consuelopando9414
    @consuelopando94148 ай бұрын

    Nene es tan bella y protectora de Kiyo mantiene a Sabanis a raya el le teme huye

  • @alexk9295
    @alexk92958 ай бұрын

    Why are all the ladies siding with Kyo?

  • @livieandevie

    @livieandevie

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably because Kiyo is weaker, and he is Nene's son

  • @sandraphillips1718

    @sandraphillips1718

    8 ай бұрын

    They know Shabani will badly hurt Kiyo.

  • @staypeace5955

    @staypeace5955

    8 ай бұрын

    They mate with him..😂😂

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