I’m sorry just because she forgave him doesn’t give her the right to keep the other two women from seeing justice. She is not a judge or jury, it is not her right to determine guilt

@michaelfawcett9935

3 жыл бұрын

While I agree with you she does have to right to not say anything. If you've watched this show (and any other crime based shows/movies, etc) you know the first thing they say is "You have the right to remain silent" and she is exercising that. I don't think she's right for doing so, but in the eyes of law whether or not to speak out is her choice to make. (Let the demonization of me proceed)

@ninjettifire

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelfawcett9935 I agree with you.

@JenX_1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelfawcett9935 She wasn't arrested, or being detained, so her right to remain silent doesn't really apply. She doesn't have to say anything, but the "right to remain silent" doesn't really apply to this.

@TheMightyN

3 жыл бұрын

Neither is wanting the man dead; some people can find peace with their suspects. When the woman described Justice as "abstract," this was it. The justice system is sometimes barbaric and controversial to where, for example, grooming children it's unlawful, but grooming of adults is acceptable--it's unethical to some agreement. However, moving past personal feelings, the law grants individuals (the victims) their right to speak or not.

@TheMightyN

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelfawcett9935 Well, put. Most people see the law from a subjective viewpoint anyways.

"Lois, I hope you find peace" while basically dangling the information required for said peace over her head.

@cecejamesable

3 жыл бұрын

I fully expected her to get up and make her eat her teeth, after that.

@Solider7

2 жыл бұрын

Except Jennifer was right. Knowing his name won't bring peace. What worth is there in capturing the attacker who is now I'm a wheelchair for the rest of his life, and who personally knows your pain?

@brittanyflowerday

2 жыл бұрын

@@Solider7 You would be less likely to worry about coming across him on the street. Plus, with him being in a wheelchair, he's less likely to come after you again (or anyone else).

@queenesther09

Жыл бұрын

What disturbed me is how unnaturally straight faced that woman is the whole time. It's like she has no emotion whatsoever.

@queenesther09

2 ай бұрын

@@Solider7 True, but she didn't even tell them that much.

Forgiveness does not mean you don't hold someone accountable for their actions. Being forgiven does not mean you are shielded from the consequences. If you truly feel remorse for the things you do, then you accept the consequences, you don't try to hide and fight them, because that just shows you only care for yourself, and not those you have hurt.

@lkb-il8iy

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Couldn’t have said it better

@LaughingJokerProd

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like that's what a lot of people tend to miss when they try and say "he's changed! he's different!" yeah, but he or she still did the crime. Likewise, just because he's "changed" doesn't mean the next person who did has, or the next. Accoutability of the actions and acceptance of consequences.

@youngkim5909

3 жыл бұрын

Then what's the point of forgiveness? Guys shoots John Wick's dog. Guys asks for forgiveness. John says "I forgive you" then shoots him. What the point of your forgiveness?

@youngkim5909

3 жыл бұрын

@@lolaminer5 Yeah john is looking for revenge. He didn't forgive anyone, but if he did, it would mean not shooting the guy who killed his dog. Sounds hard? True forgiveness is hard, that's why people watch this and don't recognize it for what it is: true forgiveness. The people who say "I forgive you" but still allow people to suffer for the acts they "forgave" are the people who pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they are "forgiving", while in reality not having the capacity to truly forgive.

@youngkim5909

3 жыл бұрын

@@lolaminer5 forgive verb: 1: to cease to feel resentment against (an offender) Which she does. 2: to give up resentment of or claim to requital. Which she does by refusing to cooperate. If you contribute to his punishment through your actions, you are NOT giving up your claim to requital.

Law and Order always comes up with some of the most frustratingly delusional characters

@cecejamesable

3 жыл бұрын

It just makes you want to smash your head against a desk, doesn't it?

@juliantapia1407

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we see these people can be realistic.

@mariaibarra5883

3 жыл бұрын

And to shake some sense in people;

@mariaibarra5883

3 жыл бұрын

No. It wouldn't have changed him unless he stopped realistically.

@ashoikiesaunders721

3 жыл бұрын

Co worker was placed in a similar situation after a man raped her daughter . She forgave him but the daughter did not thus he was still charged and got 105 years .

You can feel the devastation with these women. Applause for the women that portrayed these characters.

I know they portrayed this woman to be delusionally protecting this man only because he prayed and repented, but the scary thing behind this is that real people do this. It's acted up really dramatically on this show but real people know other real people who raped someone and decided to protect them. Protect them by lying, ignoring it, or just by being silent. One of my great uncles, Grandpas brother, was outcasted out the family once he turned 18. I never personally met him, I only saw him at funerals. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out it was because he molested a lot of my great aunts and some distant cousins. My Great grandparents weren't aware until the girls were older and they kicked him out the moment he turned 18. They never spoke about it, never told police, just black sheeped him. He went out to abuse other women. The last time I saw him was after an great uncles funeral. He was arrested shortly after, was accused of molesting a friends daughter. The point being that so many people knew but no one did anything but cast him as the black sheep. So many girls not protected because they choose to protect him with their silence.

@lovewhitey2027

3 жыл бұрын

This is Everywhere 🤬Thats why the cycle repeats Nobody stops these tortured people The ones who don’t speak up are WORSE the hemorrhaging and carnage could have been stopped Decades ago 🗣

@dakotac1622

2 жыл бұрын

abusers aren't born, they're made and the cycle keeps on spinning.

This isn't something you just go on a spirit journey and apologize for. This was a serious crime that has damaged the lives of those women for the rest of their lives.

@bumbledyke

Жыл бұрын

My mom told me that what I need to do about when my now ex raped me is to pray about it and get over it. There's no way I can just get over it when I know he's never going to be held accountable and deal with legal consequences for what he did to me. Praying and forgiving won't actually do anything to help me or his future victims.

The others had every right to feel that way towards her;

People like her greatly annoy me. If you choose to forgive your enemy, that's fine, but protecting them and/or actively choosing to not give any info on them all because YOU believe it's betrayal makes you just as guilty.

@TheSongwritingCat

Жыл бұрын

The scene with all three women was important to show her that it was not a morally good or even neutral choice. Her "forgiveness" was actively harming the other victims. She could still refuse to reveal his identity, but she was forced to acknowledge the pain she was causing.

"I hope you find peace." That woman has some nerve. Seeing that man pay for what he did to her might be how that would happen, just because it worked for that holier-than-thou lady doesn't mean it would for the others, and she has no right to make decisions for them based on her personal beliefs.

"He's changed, I forgive him." Okay and? Don't mean I gotta forgive him. If I was one of those other women, I'd go to jail for killing that woman. You do not get to decide if the person who attacked ME gets justice, just because YOU forgive him for hurting YOU.

I’ve heard of Stockholm Syndrome, but this case takes the cake.

@siobhanconneely4199

3 жыл бұрын

She was raised in by the belief that redemption is possible from coming from evil, her mind is the same from back then as childhood

@MadameChristie

3 жыл бұрын

the dude does seem truly repentant when they find him though. And he's in a wheelchair.

@siobhanconneely4199

3 жыл бұрын

I never the whole episode series but nearly see the old series

@TititoDeBologay

3 жыл бұрын

@@siobhanconneely4199 but she still deprived other women of closure and justice. That some religious hubris if anything.

@juliantapia1407

3 жыл бұрын

@@MadameChristie But can one say that their guilt or personal rehab came from change and growth, or was it the circumstances that cost him the ability to keep harming women the way he was before? It's true that our prison system is a mess, and that rehabilitation isn't even the end goal so much as punishment. It deserves to be updated and fixed. But it's also true that there are some crimes you can never be forgiven for, and some that you deserve death for committing.

it’s so interesting seeing three sides of the same torment women go through when they become victims. one is focused on staying angry and strong to feel powerful so that he doesn’t win by making her feel week and vulnerable, one is tormented and in constant anxiety and fear desperate to stay vigilant so she doesn’t have to feel that kind of torment again, and one is so overwhelmed by it that she disassociates from reality and tries to be the bigger/better person to feel in control of herself so that he can’t make her turn on her beliefs and be vengeful and angry. i’ve never been in a situation like theirs exactly but i’ve been in an abusive relationship psychologically and it’s hard not to bounce between all of these states and more when you’re trying to heal. i really like this plot for showing that, none of them are wrong for their feelings they’re just all trying

@Unownshipper

3 ай бұрын

This is probably the most insightful comment in this whole section. It’s a pretty accurate summation of their different coping mechanisms. Everyone else is making surface-level observations or shallow, emotional responses without actually putting themselves in these characters’ shoes, so I admire your perceptive analysis.

By choosing to protect him and deliberately deny those other women closure and justice, she became every bit as much a monster as him.

@fandomtrash7505

2 жыл бұрын

I would not go that far, she is just as much a victim as they are

@DamontheDemon7

2 жыл бұрын

@@fandomtrash7505 that’s no excuse to protect a sexual predator. Or to be such a gutless doormat! Don’t you realize that it’s pushovers like her that make women look so pathetic?

@DamontheDemon7

2 жыл бұрын

I know right? I swear it’s doormats like her and Dhalia from “Flight” that make women look so submissive and pathetic!

@DamontheDemon7

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickbateman2620 are what?

@huizhechen3779

Жыл бұрын

The self-righteous are always monsters and delusional because they think they know what their fictional god wants.

Its interesting to see how 3 diffrent people deal with the same trauma in 3 diffrent ways.

I’m impressed with how that blonde woman can talk without making a single facial expression.

If he wanted to turn himself in, she didn't have the right to talk him out of it.

This case's ending was one of the darkest of the svu episodes in my opinion, just sad.

@oliviamacarthur18

3 жыл бұрын

How does it end?

@quanekafletcher8631

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliviamacarthur18 the guy went to jail

@Dominus42

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliviamacarthur18 guy was a cripple in a wheelchair

@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385

3 жыл бұрын

Did the woman get hurt again? What episode was it?

@mashedmellow

3 жыл бұрын

The ending shows the guy who raped them, being a doorman sitting in a wheelchair, it seems that he was brutally rap3d in prison, and after he got out, got injured while riding a bike. I don't know, at the end you can't help but feel bad for everyone, even if the guy deserves punishment for what he did. It's Season 1, Episode 14 "Limitations".

I could see Fin snapping at her if he was there

@Solider7

2 жыл бұрын

He'd be the first to be fired if he was and he had.

My issue is not she forgave him. Forgiveness sets the victim free. Forgiveness is for the victim, not for the perpetrator folks. My burning problem is not even she refuses to speak so the other victims can have justice. Though it is selfish. My main issue is that the man had a change of heart and wanted to turn himself in, which is admirable, and she convinced him not to. I understand his condition and why she felt prison was unnecessary but forgiveness does not mean justice should not be served, especially since the other women did not forgive him too.

@chloepainter4064

Жыл бұрын

This exactly! What was up with that. If a person commits a crime and then repents for lack of a less religious word, then the right thing to do is let them serve time. What on earth possessed her to convince him otherwise? Like, her argument is pacifism, that has nothing to do with a criminal going to jail.

I remember watching this scene as a kid and wanting Lois to smash Jennifer's head into the wall.

@TheBreechie

3 жыл бұрын

You sound like quite a dark child 😅

@ToruKun1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBreechie Not dark, just easily frustrated

@noenya8047

3 жыл бұрын

I always imagine Lois opening the cap of her water bottle and throwing the water at Jennifer face or at least throw the bottle in Jennifer head.

Just because she forgave him, doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be rotting in jail. Women like her annoy me.

5:33 Exactly what I was calling her

I hate that the full episodes aren't available in Canada! I remember watching these AVIDLY back in university!

Let me just say yes people can change. I am a woman of faith in God and Jesus but I don't think what she was doing was right. If someone rapes me I want them in prison for it. We got jails and prisons for a reason. God isn't gonna let the guilty go unpunished.

@bellerain381

3 жыл бұрын

You are so right! It makes more sense in later in the episode why she was resistant (the man was in a wheelchair), but I still believe the women deserved justice for what happened to them!

@childinchrist7335

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. God designed justice. I especially would want the person executed if he did it to others.

That lady turned into batman WHERE IS HE!?!??!

Shouldn't she be in jail? Also it's heartbreaking there are people like her.

@MMuraseofSandvich

3 жыл бұрын

She does end up imprisoned for contempt of court; she was subpoenaed for the perpetrator's identity and refused to give him up.

@roguejester4986

3 жыл бұрын

8℅ of people are like her.

@kelseyswanepoel7056

3 жыл бұрын

I think a stay at psychiatric facility is in order.

@lovewhitey2027

3 жыл бұрын

They are everywhere 🤬Literally playing God

@Solider7

2 жыл бұрын

For not turning in her own attacker? How is that a crime?

Not seen the full episode so don't know if there's any further revelations or twists but man this woman makes my blood boil. If it was just her then I'd understand she had to be true to herself but this affects two other women. She's taking the choice out of their hands and that's not right

@triciaramgoolam4045

3 жыл бұрын

Spoilers if you continue . . . The guy is in a wheelchair. That's how she knows he isn't a danger anymore. But they still arrest him.

@lovewhitey2027

3 жыл бұрын

Her narcissist self is playing God 🤬

@Solider7

2 жыл бұрын

How can she be taking the choice out of their hands when it's her choice to reveal the attacker's name? It's not like was an accomplice. And they can't treat her as an accessory after the fact as she was a victim herself.

@gregjenkinson7512

2 жыл бұрын

@@Solider7 it's taking the choice out of their hands because she's deciding whether he gets punished or not. By keeping his identity hidden she's denying the other two victims a sense of closure

@Solider7

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregjenkinson7512 What choice? Their choice perished when the statute of limitations ran out on their rapes. Only Jennifer and her attacker had the choice at that point, which they didn't make. And ultimately, she gets throw put in jail for not giving up the name of the attacker in a crime that was against only her? This sets a dangerous precident; ounishing people for not wanting to seek legal justice? Hello?

When the clip began I was caught in perpetual confusion. On one hand she has a right avoid testifying, on the other should she not express her experience to the court? Then it was revealed she was withholding the perpetrators identity…. She lost all sympathy.

5:28 It's so satisfying to see reaction like that 😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣

I remember watching this and hoping they'd arrest her for obstruction.

Not to bring up a strawman type argument, like “Real Christians know that-“ or “True Christianity doesn’t-“, that sort of thing. But there is something to be said for how evangelical/fundamental Christianity twists the idea of forgiveness and puts it through a toxic positivity filter. The idea that you have to forgive every wrong done to you right away, no matter what, your own feelings be damned, is popular in those circles, usually because of a literal/face-value interpretation of the “seventy times seven” and “if you do not forgive then God will not forgive you” and “turn the other cheek” passages. And it leads to a lot of people staying in abusive relationships of all kinds and/or letting things go that honestly shouldn’t be let go, or at least not let go without being worked through. That’s the kind of “forgiveness” I grew up with and that’s the kind of “forgiveness” I see practiced by this lady. I’ve since learned that just because you may forgive someone, it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions. It doesn’t mean they didn’t hurt you-that’s just simply a fact and it’s okay to acknowledge that. It doesn’t mean you have to be buddy-buddy with them/pretend nothing happened every time they say they’re sorry/accept them without evidence of trying to right the wrong. Love your neighbor as you love yourself, of course, but don’t forget to actually love yourself-that is, have enough self-respect not to accept half-assed apologies/attempts to repent from someone who has hurt you. You are allowed to draw that boundary. You’re allowed to expect better and be angry/sad when that expectation isn’t met. You’re allowed to love someone as a human being but not love them in a deeper way (as in continue to have a romantic or platonic or filial relationship with them). You’re allowed to do all of those things and still be a devout Christian.

That business woman was right by forgiving him she had leverage and him all to herself, she's just as suspect.

This is one of the best episodes of the show

I remember this episode she was nutty as a fruit cake 🤦🤦🤦

@adamka-1

2 жыл бұрын

what fruit cake you eating got nuts in it

I love her as an actress. She played on a episode of Criminal Intent too. She was good there but here she was just coo coo.

Could she be charged with a crime? Refusing to reveal or even colluding with a suspect to a crime (she claims she prayed with him)?

@theredlantern5966

2 жыл бұрын

Technically its obstruction (if finessed correctly)

@Shestheman013

10 ай бұрын

they charged her with contempt of court, because she was supenoed (sp), and still refused to tell them his name.

Jenny Bacon played this character really well. I wanted to both yell at her and hug her.

"Justice is the insurance we have on our lives, and obedience is the premium we pay for it." -William Penn

I've seen delusional on this and other shows people but she tops the cake. She's in literal denial.

@Lefeurouge

2 жыл бұрын

She's actually not, interestingly. The end of the episode frames the attacker and her as having been right.

When rage breaks the wall of Trauma....o.O

I don’t think she understands that people like that very rarely change

" i hope you can get peace" welll. you could have if you would stop protecting that person............

Love 💖 this show always watched it since it came on

I've seen Jenny Bacon in several shows...she's a hell of an actress...imo.

I love law and order

That woman is a freak.

@alexandraanderson3988

Жыл бұрын

No she wasn't she's a woman with opinions and feelings too and that other lady has no right to call her that or names tbh 👍▶️ for stating and giving her own opinions I think that other lady was taking it a little to far tbh 😢😮

where is full episode?

Talking to a brick wall

It is about all the women who deserve so much more freedom

Ha the person behind the desk was the wife of a husband who killed their children in season 9 of the original law and order, so about a year or two before this appearance

If this is the official channel for Law & Order then why are so many videos blocked in America?

What season and episode is this?

it like the whole couple thing, 'oh he didn't meant to hit me, i forgot he work so hard he just stress' just no

it was the hotel clerk. He was attacked in prison and in a wheelchair that's why she felt bad. They get him at the end Elliott carries him into the squad car

This was probably the best SUV ever. The look on the faces of Benson and Stabler when they saw the man's condition. 1. The first woman was so traumatized, she couldn't leave the house without thinking that every man she saw on the street, was the attacker. She was never going to be "right" in the head. 2. The second woman was so devastated by the attack, she will never be satisfied that justice will ever be served, even if she got to beat him to death. 3. The Quaker, had her religion to save her ... she found redemption. That is what religion is suppose to do. _I saw the actress who found redemption in a Peet's Coffee, in Berkeley, CA. She was with her son. She was surprised I recognized her._

YOU FREAK!!!!

Can anyone remember the episode and the season of this video

I doubt detention would be of any good, but i would extent that extention to a steady in a mental hospital.

That other woman read her, she likes the power she has over him

@crackgoat9780

3 жыл бұрын

Not really, the lady knew that the charges would be dismissed within a day or two.

@xraider9091

Жыл бұрын

@@crackgoat9780 except they weren't. The guy was going to turn himself in, she just talked him out of it. He was found guilty by the end,

@tormentorchick1755

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't it at all. She knew he couldn't be a danger to anyone anymore and she knew he had already suffered and will continue to suffer.

She shouldve gotten charged just as much as the scumbag

@anjelica948

4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately they can’t. She’s protecting his identity based on the tenants of her faith, and American citizens, for better or worse, have freedom of religion. She’s not committing any technical crimes by not revealing his identity, and because she was a victim too, it’d be hard to sell an obstruction of justice charge to a judge. Abused people protect their attackers all the time, literally happens every day, even without religious contexts, and while police can put them in custody temporarily, to actually charge someone, the victim has to identify the attacker, or the evidence isn’t strong enough to convict.

Why aren't they arresting the quaker girl - surely she's harbouring a fugitive by not telling the police who this guy is if the two other girls want to press charges

The biggest argument against her is that if he really changed he would have owned up to his crimes and turn himself in

@cyn6123

2 жыл бұрын

She said that he was going to, and she talked him out of it

I love ❤️ this show with her & him in it ??

This woman always plays a crazed lunatic

@omarcogle1965

3 жыл бұрын

Not always. She also played a woman who's husband was killed in Season 14 of SVU.

@1talldaddy

3 жыл бұрын

yeah and she's good at it too.lol

@matthewforsyth284

3 жыл бұрын

@@omarcogle1965 uh actually that was her boyfriend dude.

@omarcogle1965

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewforsyth284 She actually said it was her husband bro, I can rewatch that episode with it comes back on again.

@sarcasticallyrearranged

3 жыл бұрын

She played a freak in Criminal Intent. She does a good job.

"I made a personal spiritual connection" Not sure why that line makes me so angry, maybe it's the lack of logic or the innate selfishness or using religion as a shield for some of the worst acts or maybe just because it fits so well with real life cases of rapists in a religious context

Go Lois!!!

Me too

Jenny bacon is really good at playing bats**t Crazy characters

I'm a Christian and I saw women praying for their children's _murderers_ and forgiving them, even so they go to jail as they should. Don't get me wrong, I saw one of those women visiting them every week and praying for them, but she understood that forgiveness don't mean no justice.

@queenesther09

Жыл бұрын

There's no harm in forgiving someone who hurt you, but that doesn't mean it should go unpunished, especially if that person hurt others too.

Gawd that lady pisses me off 😤

That woman is really messed up

If I was in her shoes, I'd say his name in a heartbeat. Yes it's good to find some peace after a horrific tragedy, but NEVER with someone who made you feel like the entire world was gone in the blink of an eye

When she said they prayed together that is when vomited in my own mouth. 🤢

Same

.... doesn't she get it?! How can she be sure he didn't attack those women AFTER she spoke to him and saw that he was "changed"? Sociopaths are eerily good at charming and conning people, especially saps like her.

@Colechamdiceman

3 жыл бұрын

It's fiction

@ThePrincessCH

3 жыл бұрын

If you watch the whole thing you might think that she was referring a different kind of "change".

@Maryannkf

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I can assure you he did no attacking after meeting her. His crime days were over, hit by a truck and wheel chair bound

@DragonGoddess18

3 жыл бұрын

She's too stupid and selfish to get it

@Maryannkf

3 жыл бұрын

@@DragonGoddess18 she's in the wrong here, but you haven't seen the conclusion

I love Olivia Benson

How did this end?

@xraider9091

Жыл бұрын

they found the guy, turns out he went to prison for a seperate crime and was raped himself, then after getting released he was paralyzed after a car accident. He's found guilty by the end of the episode.

That one lady screaming at the end looks like Renee Zellwenger???

I know it's a show and it's just acting but geez that "reformed" woman really pissed me off

The worse part is her saying she convinced him not to admit what he’s done, EXCUSE ME??!!?!??

Expose the deeds of darkness

If she wants to forgive him that’s fine but keeping his name & identity is something else. She can’t make the decision for the other victims. She can’t make the decision of forgiveness for HER but she can’t choose whether or not the other victims forgive him or not and she’s doing that by keeping his identity a secret.

This show manages to hate civil rights, _and_ hate religion! Super great show.

This clip reminded me of an awful event that happened to me years ago. I was a victim of criminal sodomy.

What the hell any religion has to do with the justice system. You can be a religious nutter all you want but don't try to play the judge and jury in the real sane world. She should be charged with obstruction of justice

@Sapphiresenthiss

Жыл бұрын

Precisely!

Eh i hate the ending of the episode 😒

Religions can be dangerous

We get it you’re acting!!🙄🤦‍♀️

Unfortunately christianity teaches forgiveness at the expense of justice. It's seen as such a high moral thing to forgive that it brainwashes victims into not pursuing legal action, as that can be seen as seeking vengeance.

@teresadownes2422

3 жыл бұрын

so if you were attacked or raped and you don't tell who the attacker is She or he could hurt someone younger Perhaps a small child

@2degucitas

3 жыл бұрын

@@teresadownes2422 Yeah, that's right.

@bellerain381

3 жыл бұрын

No, Christians teaches to forgive but not forget what happened. If I am knowledgeable of a person who committed a crime, I can feel pity for them and forgive them, but I also know it would have been my duty to make sure he or she would be brought to justice so they would not hurt anyone else.

@susivarga7303

2 жыл бұрын

That's bs. Forgiving is not the same as denying justice. Forgiveness is a personal journey to be able to continue with your life.

@2degucitas

2 жыл бұрын

@@susivarga7303 Christians aren't great with conflict resolution and justice. If you are comfortable with forgiveness, that's great. But, many have had forgiveness forced on them with no accountability from the perpetrator. I'm surprised you haven't experienced that.

This must have been a wacky episode, bringing religion into it always brings out the mad bastards.

Crazy woman. And it happens for real.

I have sympathy with her being assaulted but she is the most stubborn and selfish women I was so angry watching this

@sjbenson5618

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Brianna I agree with you I was so fed up and angry at this woman. If it was only her that he raped I would understand that she could not report and get justice for herself but they’re are more women then her and Jennifer was so selfish not to give information. But I understand now because of the ending

@tormentorchick1755

Жыл бұрын

They didn't even need her to tell them who he was. They figured it out anyway.

Maybe rapists do change, and maybe they don’t change. Only people who hide behind faith is a coward.

She knows he's not a danger because in this episode he is a paraplegic.

As much as I love this show I can't help but feel that it always portrays Christianity as corrupt or crazy or weak willed. But perhaps I'm being too sensitive here.

@jkm4645

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah; as a Christian I have seen that repeatedly. However, I they also show Christians' strength on there sometimes as well. This show is one of my favorites of all time.

@ThePrincessCH

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Christianity has an unfortunate history of forcefully converting people to their side since the day European settlers started colonies in other countries and it's still a commonly practiced religion. It might be more of a stereotype now, but everyone has their prejudices.

@Rose-xy5pe

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePrincessCH What you speak of is not Christianity, it is human nature misinterpreting the purpose of spreading the religion. Jesus said it was to be done through gentle teaching not force but sadly it gets misinterpreted by so many people.

@Rose-xy5pe

3 жыл бұрын

@@jkm4645 True and one of the former main characters (Elliot Stabler who happens to be my favorite) is Catholic.

@jkm4645

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rose-xy5pe Exactly. Alhough, sometimes God does use the actions of evil or misguided people to accomplish his objective of reaching the lost with the Gospel, the primary method of people truly accepting Christ, however, is the way Christianity got a foothold in Europe in the first place-- by the testimony of Christians preaching lovingly and peacefully, sometimes even in the face of persecution.

Ah yes, he's religious so he can't be evil

Yet another reason why I consider people who are devoutly religious to be a danger to society.

Just because your faith forgives you doesn't mean you don't have to make your temporal life right. Most religions, and all monotheistic faiths, believe that what we do in this life has spiritual consequences. You have to clear your debts in life or you risk spiritual punishment. And for all you 'born again atheists' out there, just save it. I don't dispute you the right to believe or not believe as you choose. You don't like it when some evangelical gets in your face [which is fine, btw, I don't either], but your 'everyone who has faith in the divine is an idiot' act is just as offensive. Tolerance is a two way street. You can't demand respect without giving it.

I tried to watch ist but its sooo horrible fast all the time sexual ripping (Father raped Vis doughter or son)im just asking who writes it? Is there nothing what they can offer to the People its discusting 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮