I know they were elite on Saturday, but Collingwood at 2 is crazy.

@S3018146

2 ай бұрын

Pies fan. I'd have them 5th or 6th on my power rankings.

@simonwilson4353

2 ай бұрын

Especially if you watched the first 20 mins. They would be 2nd last. Big 2 weeks coming up. The blues are the team to beat right now. Big big game that one.

@timmcgrath8030

2 ай бұрын

I usually think the VFL media narrative is BS, but Gerard is sooo biased towards big Vic clubs in his seedings

Swans flog a team that Kingy said were “coming with a bullet” last week and tipping to beat Sydney at home- now he’s throwing the baby out with the bath water and questioning Gold Coasts structure and list 😂

@squalidseal6126

2 ай бұрын

It’s alright. It’s typical. It’s fine though 😂. We’re used to it.

@stevelozevski8151

2 ай бұрын

So it's safe to say you get every tip right every week

@matthewanderson4378

2 ай бұрын

Flip flops week to week more than a freshly caught trout. Lol I do like him though

@taliamason7986

2 ай бұрын

Also a team that is supposedly just 3 years away from winning a Premiership despite never playing Finals.

@imalwaysright

2 ай бұрын

King does this every week. Fremantle were in his Top 4 seeds 3 weeks ago lmao.

I thought hell had frozen oven when i heard Kingy praise Geelong, thank you for the flowers.

Geelong doing so well must hurt Kingy atm, he writes us off every year

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

Well he was right last year

@mitchellrizza284

2 ай бұрын

Geelong has only beaten bottom 8 teams lol.

@michaelrose3101

2 ай бұрын

Next 2 rounds will tell you where Geelong is in the pecking order.

@ShoeSnatchinWilly

2 ай бұрын

He was right last year before anyone else.

@barrykarey1469

2 ай бұрын

@@michaelrose3101 Even as a Geelong supporter I am realistic. I tend to look at the team really at the half way mark as see how they are playing and responding to other teams. Before then it is just media hype.

The means test alongside fireball Friday is the best show on sen

They're 3-3 and still 10th. Settle it down a bit.

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

3-3 at 10th suggests they are just an average side. Still can't believe they won the premiership last year.

@samysull333

2 ай бұрын

@@Not1Dimensionalrichmond were 9th in round 14 in 2019 with 92% with only 7 wins from 13 games…

@PulauSwan

2 ай бұрын

@@samysull333 That's an amazing stat, it really is. So any side from 13th position now, could make the final 8. I see 4 or 5 sides with distinct advantage , games won, percentage,

@samysull333

2 ай бұрын

@@PulauSwan i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not but yes literally anyone can make the 8. it’s far too early in the season to write out any teams that have profound evidence suggesting that they’re capable.

@eponymous7910

2 ай бұрын

They won't play finals imo

What a backhanded comment about Hawthorn and North being like for like. North won 5 games in the last 2 years while Hawthorn won 7 last year alone. They are not built the same and clearly Hawthorn has surpassed North in the rebuild already since its commitment 2-3 years ago.

@PulauSwan

2 ай бұрын

I see bigger problems ahead, Tassie for starters. Are North going south. Is Tassie going to be treated in the same manner as GCS. I firmly believe that Dimmer moving to GCS was a move instigated by the AFL . I reckon there's s few secrets written in swiss there. So the bottom sides will suffer further, due to AFL project clubs. North will be one of them.

They're sitting 10th so if this isn't Vic bias I don't know what it 😂

I’m just here to see what excuse they use this week to be ‘still not sure about’ Sydney and the craziness behind who they put in their top 4. Wasn’t disappointed. Apparently all the decent teams they beat who are otherwise having a good year (Demons, Pies, Bombers, Suns) just didn’t play well. Ignores the once in a decade form of Heeney or impact of Grundy and instead would ‘just like to see how they are once Parker comes back’. Would much prefer it if they were honest and said ‘we haven’t really looked at Sydney much as we don’t really give a crap about the northern teams’.

@cbgg1585

2 ай бұрын

Sad life you must live if this is what’s keeping you up at night, let alone living with this victim mentality. Who gives a f*ck what these “experts” think. Josh Jenkins as an example said Melbourne would finish in the bottom 10 and would implode with their off field “issues” and he also said Brisbane are emphatically the team he would close to garunateeing a grand final position. These so called experts ain’t deities. Wouldn’t put much stock into their opinions and analysis.

@kaineverett3220

2 ай бұрын

Lost to tigers tho brother

@samysull333

2 ай бұрын

@@kaineverett3220aka a good side when not missing entire key forward line and entire midfield along with some very important defenders and leaders…

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

Sydney are home track bullies.

@cmadelaide56

2 ай бұрын

@@kaineverett3220Yep - Sydney played terribly, Richmond played out of their skin and the margin was less than a kick. Suddenly ‘we’re not sure about Sydney’ and they haven’t let it go since. A Victorian team 10th on the ladder and who only beat Hawthorn by 5 is in Gerard’s seedings. But he’ll swear he doesn’t have a Victorian bias…

The banter of these two when they reveal a surprise seeding is gold

I think we are going harsh on north they’ve got a super young list not to mention clarkson wasn’t there for most of last season. At some point they’ve gotta bring in some experience to guide the young guns

@blackie75

2 ай бұрын

Yep, they lost Goldstien, Ziebel, Cunnington and McKay not to mention Coleman-Jones and Logue are out and they're getting nothing out of most of the other seniors such as Greenwood and Stephenson most of the time. It's gonna take some time.

@ChiaroScuro-Pie

2 ай бұрын

@@blackie75 "It's gonna take some time." How long? North will only prove themselves back in the game again if they start to perform like the WCE are doing at the moment. I don't want to watch North, never, I do, but I don't want to, I do it for my knowledge base. So, North will cop more and more criticism until they put effort and system on the field, until then they are going to cop it hard, as will the coach. Alastair Clarkson is overrated now; he wasn't but he is now. Clarkson and North now have to convince the footy world they are the real deal. I loathe (lol) the WCE, I love watching them every week now, I hope North get there sooner than later, that would be great for the AFL.

@taliamason7986

2 ай бұрын

​@@blackie75They only continue to lose more players. Zurrhar is basically gone at the end of the season. I reckon the Bombers get him in free agency and Davies Uniake will be next at the end of the following season.

@blackie75

2 ай бұрын

@@ChiaroScuro-Pie It's never as bad or as good as you think. West Coast still has a lot of talented and experienced senior players on their list such as Yeo, Kelly, Cripps, Gaff, McGovern, Darling, Petruccelle, Barass, Ryan and many more in the 23-26 range. Lets not start drinking the bathwater because they've won two games and Reed kicked a few. West Coast lost their first three this year by 50, 70 and 75 which was worse than North, who had a particularly difficult starting draw for such an inexperienced side. The one thing I will say is that winning that game last year to lose Reed was borderline insanity, I don't give a fiddlers fart about team morale. I still back Clarkson in to turn this ship around if he's given a clear run at it, people just have to have a bit of patience. They had Simpson all but lynched until a fortnight ago, that's how quickly it can turn.

Gerald putting collingwood in the top 4 is insane. 3 and 3 pies are better than 6 and 0 cats. How ridiculous

@Sweat_ii

2 ай бұрын

Collingwood will likely finish in the top 4. Geelong will finish top 6 easily with their 6-0. Magpies v Cats prelim final loading

Kingy is absolutely correct about Port. Geelong dont let players go they offer farms brown paper bags...neither hinkley or Esava got either

GWS missed the chance to redeem Their final’s loss to Collingwood(+last1/4 umpiring). So, Gerard ranking them below Collingwood is about right.

@mjk206

2 ай бұрын

Stop whining

Kingy nicely avoids responding to the question as to what else Toby could have done there. These incidents will continue to happen no matter the punishment as it is part of the game and wont stop unless people decide they dont want to contest a ball anymore

Regarding North, Kingy doesn’t say whether the defence is inept or whether it’s how easy the ball is coming in to the opposition forward line? Or maybe it’s both?

Im not sure why some are expecting much different from North. Clarkson was struggling at Hawthorn from about 7 years ago, thats a long, long time ago. Had been topping up their list for years in the hope they could rocket back up the ladder but it never happened. In saying that, if he was to turn North around, would take a lot longer than 30 odd games

The answer to that question is an emphatic YES!

They might be back, but sides like Carlton, Geelong and Sydney are still better than Collingwood. Collingwood usually beat Port, so I wouldn't look too much into it. They nearly lost to Hawthorn and lost to St Kilda.

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

None of those teams are better than Collingwood. Never were and Carlton lost to Adelaide and Swans lost to Richmond, both teams are going so bad they’ve won less games than West Coast so that blows your argument about Collingwood losing to St Kilda pieces. You’ll eat your words because your judging Collingwood purely on a 3 week stretch and already quickly forgetting last year

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

@@JCStorm76 last year was a very weak season. The 2nd placed team lost 6 games. There was no stand out team last season. Geelong and Sydney dropped off and Carlton were only starting to gel. Those teams are back and are better than last year. The 2023 Collingwood side are the worst side to win a premiership since the Adelaide Crows in 1998.

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

Geelong 2022 side were streets ahead of Collingwood 2023 side.

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

@@Not1Dimensional Like that opinion lessons our achievement Lol. It actually just comes across as very salty. The Swans team that Geelong beat in 2022 were the worst side to make a GF in years. Brisbane of 2023 were a 6 goal better team

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

​@@JCStorm76 You won every game in the finals series by a combined 12 points and got players let off by the MRO. You're certainly not dominant like Geelong were, so to sit here and say Collingwood at their best can't be beaten is a ridiculous and arrogant thing to say when the competition is as close as it is this year. I just can't see Collingwood beating Carlton or Geelong.

I wonder if the Eagles' list are as bad as we all thought. We were savaged by injuries for 2 years straight, and I think some stability is the reason why we've been (more than) decent the last 2 weeks. Reid has helped lift the team no doubt, but its a lot more than him. Dont get me wrong, we're still rebuilding, but on paper we were never a bottom 2 side. Could be wrong but taking it week by week.

@ogidy001

2 ай бұрын

No I think this is right (as a WCE supporter). The challenge at west coast has been the development of players between 22-27. Allen, Waterman, Cole, Duggan, Flynn (hasn’t played yet), pettreccele, Ryan, B. Williams and witherden are the only best 22 players in that range and probably only Allen and maybe Ryan are in the top six player at the club. So this year the 28+ players are going really well - Yeo, Gov, TB, TK etc and the 21 and unders are showing real signs - Harley obviously but also Maric, Ginbey, Long, Hough, Brockman etc. So we try to build this group before we lose too much of the 28+ guys.

@ogidy001

2 ай бұрын

But Yeo, TK, Gov, TK are elite footballers and aren’t injured this year. They are better than the top tier mature talent at Hawthorn (their choice) and NM.

@stormblessed2673

2 ай бұрын

depends, you guys get a bit of a pass for last year with the horror injury list. What about 2022, was there similar injuries or just playing poorly? Genuine question not rhetorical btw. I guess we'll see how you go this year, but with your senior players like Gov, Yeo, you're obviously head and shoulders better than North Melbourne is.

@ogidy001

2 ай бұрын

@@stormblessed2673 injuries were possibly worse during covid. We had 14 changes from one week to another and the WAFL team forfeited a game. We were the only club to use top up players.

Port will make top 6, maybe even top 4 with some luck (especially if they scored 2 showdown wins), but basically the jury is completely out until they play finals

The Reason Hawthorn were 0-5 going into it Kingy were because they got a Top 4 Fixture for a bottom 3 side haha. Easy to leave out the information you can't refute.

@themetalpig7613

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the only thing I can think is that the AFL are punishing the current Hawks for the past Hawks alleged crimes.

Collingwood was amazing to watch on Saturday. Not going to downplay their performance, it was incredible to watch the fight and makes me proud to be a supporter. But the Prt defence was nothing short of embarrasing. On watch for sure.

@hersi4231

2 ай бұрын

You're spot on, if we can beat essendont this week and then beat Carlton. We are absolutely back

If pies can win the next 2 that will be huge momentum .big statement win against the blues .get your finals tickets lol .cross everything and hope the football gods can produce a Collingwood v Carlton grand final 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Once again sir kingy sir Wheatley great fun informative show thank you ❤

Pies winning their next two games against dons and blues absolutely puts them back in premiership contention.

@azzajames7661

2 ай бұрын

dons yes, but Blues, no😉

was a surprise win against the suns 2023 no one would of thought tanking

Flew from perth to watch saints...enjoyed the blues game much more on saturday..same stadium..100% more atmosphere.

Kingy thinking the lions would kick 100 points and daniher to have a big night against the cats 😂 lets talk about that.

Kingy shook at seedings is hilarious

To be fair to North, I don't think they're like for like with Hawthorn. The Hawks have a few very good senior players, and a just more athletic bodies all over the ground. North have a bit of experience but Logue and Coleman-Jones are injured and players like Greenwood and others are giving them very little most of the time. They need a couple more seasons in the gym, another big bodied forward, a big backman and some grunt around the ball. There's not much they can do about that really, it's just time and drafting. Losing Goldstein was massive for that team and don't forget Ziebel, McKay and Cunnington etc. It's gonna take some time, but Clarko can coach and I'd back him to get this thing competitive quicker than most people could. At least he's not shutting up shop and going man on man and throwing an extra bloke back to limit scoring against, he's letting em' have a crack.

@taliamason7986

2 ай бұрын

They could have actually drafted a couple of defenders instead another midfielder they didn't really need.

@blackie75

2 ай бұрын

@@taliamason7986 I think the rationale was take the best player that's available, but they certainly could use someone to cover the loss of McKay. Hopefully they might find something in the mid season draft if they have a selection. The other problem is that all the drafts from here on probably will be heavily biased towards Tasmania's new side. I'm Tasmanian myself and I really don't think another team was a great idea, unless we're cutting one of the current teams, but unfortunately if that were to happen it would probably be North on the chopping block.

😮 Kingy please finish 7th to 13 the top picks gone. Carlton Gws suns priority picks and concessions given to suns and Gws as start up clubs.🎉🎉🎉

Clarkson has played the AFL a Kangaroos , for the biggest coaching contract. He must laugh every time he looks at his bank balance. Kangaroos biggest mistake was that they sacked Brad Scott. They haven’t played finals since

Nothing has changed with Port for a decade

Essendon literally gets no positive airtime

@jacktrainor5040

2 ай бұрын

We only exist when we play bad

@dansharp2860

2 ай бұрын

Bucks gave us some love this morning but it's rare. To be honest, we deserve the doubt. We have had good starts in previous years only to fall away badly. If we can beat the Pies the talk might start again. Need more evidence that we can rise above middle of the road.

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

Essendon are rubbish that’s why

@Joshyboy234

2 ай бұрын

Who have you beat? Draper call goes the way it should of and a few teams kick accurate against you and you’re 1 and 5 or 2 and 4, humble yourself

@trikkimick

2 ай бұрын

Perform well against top teams and get talked about positively. Beat us on Anzac Day and you’ll get your positive airtime. These average performing teams want sunshine blown up their asses. Earn it and you’ll get it.

Agree with Freo been a boring side, as a supporter it's frustrating to watch

Losing Goldy and McKay didn’t help north

Collinwood got 2 in seedings????? Melbourne have a bye and make it in. Confused

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

Collingwood should be one seed. Reigning premiers 🏆

One on one is real football, if you can't beat them one on one you're not good enough, I hate seeing players way off on their own and running free, when playing if I wasn't within 1 meter of my opponent all day I'd be dragged and have a week off to think about it, what happened to real footy, bring in a rule to stop flooding, no forwards beyond halfway etc

Great win for Collingwood they have played tougher opposition compared to Geelong who has mainly defeated bottom 8 teams.

@deafness5082

2 ай бұрын

Who have Collingwood beaten again lmao

@stormblessed2673

2 ай бұрын

@@deafness5082 Brisbane and Port. Far as I can tell the Cat's have just beaten Brisbane. Though if/when the Cat's beat Carlton next week or Melbourne the week after (which they probably will win at least one, possibly both) then people will take em a lot more seriously.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking you’re right just because you have an opinion…. Peter Wright did nothing wrong but the fella that ran into him was small, and his head hit the ground. Toby also did nothing wrong, but he hit a player that was the same size and his head doesn’t hit the ground…… The AFL has no idea what it’s doing, every player needs to be responsible for themselves unless it is a deliberate attempt to hurt the opponent.

Look at all the Pies fans in comments carrying on coz they beat Port,in Melbourne Can't wait to watch Carlton beat Geelong and Pies in coming weeks Go Blues

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

Win a premiership then you can gob off

@matthewanderson4378

2 ай бұрын

@@JCStorm76 yeah fair point, its coming this year so enjoy it

@JCStorm76

2 ай бұрын

@@matthewanderson4378 When we go back to back? Oh I will

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

@@JCStorm76 Carlton will win a flag before you.

@Not1Dimensional

2 ай бұрын

@@JCStorm76 it won't happen in your lifetime. You will never see another Collingwood flag in your life.

Can't wait for Sydney to be top of yhe ladder after this round and not make the seedings next week #joke

Toby Greene should have gotten 3 weeks. 2MP got 4 because the other player got concussed

Ratugolea Aliir

Cant see what all the fuss is about with this sport😂😂

What's the significance of the Pies 3 early losses and their 6 day breaks opposed to the wins after rnd 3 including having a 13 day break... Gifted 2 byes this year and poor Mcrae was embarrassed when the question of AFL fixture fairness was asked... He admitted it isn't fair!!!! 😂😂😂

Kangaroo Court, Maynard Zero weeks

Elliot Yeo lock for AA at the moment.

@DesyncGaming.

2 ай бұрын

😂 no

Sorry north supporters but karma is coming for clarkson for his past discreations. To make it worst reid looks like he is going to be the games best player and for one win in the second last round in 2023, he woud have been a north player...

These guys please shut up

😂

Hawthorn are a long long way ahead of north Melbourne in talent, that was clear yesterday with Hawks missing - jiath, Day, Watson etc.

@themetalpig7613

2 ай бұрын

Lewis

How do you get the AFL to take Hawthorns draft picks and give them to you for Ben McKay and you still lose by 10 goals Kingy? 😂