Fans of nearly 90% of the other clubs in England would have loved to have been held back like that

@MrRodzilla

Жыл бұрын

actually its 100%

@themanwithnothingtolose

6 ай бұрын

*99%

Politics aside for Chelsea he was a brilliant owner

@Rayhuntter

Жыл бұрын

*xenophobia aside, not politics. Abramovic has little to nothing to do with Putin, their relationship is strained at best, non-existent at worst. The guy got framed and they stole Chelsea from him.

@huh8338

Жыл бұрын

@@themystery8432 it was work loo

@andydarko1096

Жыл бұрын

Factos👍🏾

@dragon_ball_sucks_video

Жыл бұрын

Wdym politics aside, you should be saying "blood money aside"

@josephiwuji3956

Жыл бұрын

@@themystery8432 sacking tuchel was not brilliant

Roman was the goat owner! Spent a shitload of money, built the best academy in the world, created a winning team, was ready to spend a billion on a new stadium and never wanted a penny in return. He even made sure that his successors will spend money and keep improving the Club. Truly a king. A king that cared.

@timglennon6814

Жыл бұрын

Money can’t buy you a winning team. Just shows the lack of trophies.

@dempseyagain

Жыл бұрын

@@timglennon6814 Wdym lack of trophies ? Chelsea have won every single trophy possible since RA took over and are the most successful english team of the last 20 years And look at ManCity - they‘re dominating, winning multiple league titles, carabao and fa cups Barca sold everything just so they can go on a spendin spree. And look what happened. They‘re on they way to win La Liga. With that being said, money literally can buy a winning team.

@saimori7372

Жыл бұрын

@@dempseyagain Don't mind him, he is an Everton fan.

@vandermonke4178

Жыл бұрын

Literally paid off all debts so the americans could thrive, once a blue always a blue. I love the tears from rivals

@EliasRoy

Жыл бұрын

@@timglennon6814 “Lack of trophies” Chelsea’s greatest began under Abramovich. Became EPL champions in 2004/05, 2005/06 under Mourinho won the Champions League in 2012 and 2021. You are just a rival salty fan

Abramovic was one of the best owners EPL has ever seen no doubt

@andreyanodesousa-5321

Жыл бұрын

100%

@dragon_ball_sucks_video

Жыл бұрын

And is the reason why Qatar was able to host world cup

@joshuamontijo4359

Жыл бұрын

Good at spending money forsure

@rethabilefeni4694

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuamontijo4359 not only that he was also know for giving charity during the pandemic. he was truly Chelsea's best owner.

@silvesta5027

Жыл бұрын

He’s an awful person though

Roman abromovich's takeover changed football forever..Since his takeover, many Middle eastern investors have followed suit, but Abramovich set the trend...(Man city,Psg and now Newcastle)

@ferdypl322

Жыл бұрын

That's not a good thing

@EdgarHunk

Жыл бұрын

​@@ferdypl322 of course it's not...my statement doesn't praise him

@dragon_ball_sucks_video

Жыл бұрын

And people actually root for those clubs

@mr.perfect748

Жыл бұрын

@@ferdypl322 Why it is not good? We do it all the time in ultimate time buy coins to buy players it’s fun

@silvesta5027

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.perfect748 Obscene amounts of money in any sport is never a good thing. It just leads to corruption, as football has shown us again and again and again :(

1) We won 2 trophies last season 2) It is a valid argument but it isn’t because of the “short term approach”, it is because of our recruitment at the back end of the Abramovich era not being as good as before or we didn’t always spend as much as we should have like in Jan 2022 when Chilwell & James both got injured for example 3) We were also held back by things like the transfer ban in 2019 not allowing us to sign players & having to appoint a rookie manager in Lampard + the stadium rebuilt being cancelled too Will forever be grateful to Abramovich for transforming our club but the end of his era was truthfully far from perfect. Probably didn’t help that he was banned from coming to England from 2018 onwards.

@dragon_ball_sucks_video

Жыл бұрын

You'll be missing Blood money

@frankunodostres473

Жыл бұрын

I'll be the first one to say I'm not a fan of the latest transfer window. spending 300+ millions is not clever. it puts a lot of pressure on everybody because we need results. and it limits our spending possibilities in the near future because ffp. and the "8+ year amortisation" bit is just stupid. you can't possibly predict a player's development for such a long period. enzo, fofana (injury prone) and especially mudryk could easily fall off and become average players in the next 2-3 years. then we're stuck with them for another 4 because nobody wants to buy them and they'll sit out their contracts... the argument "we've built a squad now so we don't have to do it later" also doesn't make any sense. you don't "build" a squad like in FUT. you have to constantly make transfers and adjust the squad when needed. form, injuries, system changes... so many things have an impact on a team. that being said, and I can only speak for myself: as a chelsea fan I much prefer having 129842 managers in the last 20 years if that's what it takes to win us 4 european cups and 10+ domestic titles in that timeframe... compared to having 1 longterm manager with whom we win a league every now and then. mourinho, villas boas, di matteo, sarri, lampard, tuchel... we've seen so many come and go. I'd be happy if potter stays for a long time and wins many trophies with us, but I have no problem in sacking him if his successor brings more silverware

@ahmadzahraniAAZ

Жыл бұрын

​@@dragon_ball_sucks_video at least you win something, and you don't spend 600 million on unproven flops and tie them to 1000 year contracts.

@dragon_ball_sucks_video

Жыл бұрын

@@ahmadzahraniAAZ ok, not only you admit that you like war, death and suffering of innocent people, but you're also admitting to being a moron

@zombievikinggaming4258

Жыл бұрын

@@dragon_ball_sucks_video You all take blood money

The fact that he ensured that 1.75 billion is locked in the club is enough to say he’s helped our long term future

It's not Roman Abramovic held Chelsea back, it's the fact City and Liverpool changed their entire culture of their club and raising the bar in the Premier League so high that the rest fell behind. Despite this, Chelsea still managed to win silverware regardless City and Liverpool challenging for the Premier League title. So no, Abramovic did not hold Chelsea back. Matter of fact, Todd Boehly fired Tuchel and hired Potter who's out of his depth.

@joebarnes100

Жыл бұрын

I think that is the reason given in this video. The title of the video seems to have triggered a few people into commenting before watching it.

@thepremierleaguechat.6519

Жыл бұрын

I think you need to watch the video.

@cradlelist

Жыл бұрын

@@thepremierleaguechat.6519 for real

@blue_dreamed5141

Жыл бұрын

Pretending like the big six hadn't already raised the bar above everyone else already

@user-cb5yt5uq8u

Жыл бұрын

Chelsea can not win the league anymore without some changes.

Since Roman Abramovich coming in in 2003 he won 5 league titles 5 FA Cups 3 League Cups 2 Community Shields 2 UEFA Champions League 2 UEFA Europa League 1 UEFA Super Cup 1 FIFA Club World Cup building a world class training ground of its time with having the best academy in the world, having the best womens team wining year after year having the best manager and players in world football spending billions was ready to spend a billion on a new stadium and never wanted a penny in return. not bad any team would be happy to have a owner like him at they club

@stvarnonevjerovatno3700

Жыл бұрын

Can Chelsea expect to have another 20 years run like that ever again, or at least in the next century? Unlikely. Chelsea was fourth most successful club globally during Abramovich tenure, behind Real, Barcelona and Bayern. No English club had the same level of success from 2003-2023. City has no UCL, Liverpool a single PL title, Man U comes closest same number of PL wins, but only two FA cups and single UCL in that time period. I am sure that any club supporter would love to be "held back" like that

@loby24

Жыл бұрын

@@stvarnonevjerovatno3700 of course we can spending 600 million shows on some world-class players shows the ambition to go to the next level with more money being spent in the future on players on a brand-new stadium the academy, the training ground and women’s team to take it to the next level

Roman never held us back. Not winning a PL for years doesn’t mean we have been a failure… we have still competed and won other trophies in that time. Roman turned us into a powerhouse at all levels, from the youth, to the women’s and to the mens. He made ruthless decisions that weren’t always easy to agree with, but that we were still competitive almost every single season under his tenure. After Conte was where things seemed to decline for a while. Poor recruitment, questionable coaching appointments followed his sacking. It was a bit of a strange time when Roman couldn’t enter the UK & we had a transfer embargo etc… which didn’t help. But Lampard steadied the ship, and then Tuchel took us to a whole new level again. Imo, we were on the road to competing for a title under Tuchel if he had stayed. Now we have a “process” coach… 😂

@Unison23

Жыл бұрын

Bit weird that you find a “process coach” to be amusing considering that a manager deemed a process coach is currently top of the league

@sanidanyagiri6824

Жыл бұрын

@@Unison23 Not only that, Liverpool gave Klopp years before they became a top side too. Chelsea haven't been able to have a consistently good side since Conte except a few months under Tuchel bc we've got rid of the coach every time things have got rough.

@tumelotsenoli9172

Жыл бұрын

@@sanidanyagiri6824 so you comparingPotter to Klopp a guy who won the league back to back with Dortmund before going to Liverpool, what has Potter won before, what credentials does he have ? Turning a relegation team into a mid table team ?and Chelsea last won the league in 2017 when Klopp arrived Liverpool hadn’t won the league in 25 years Potter is not an elite coach whether you like it or not he can’t compete with Klopp nor Pep 🤦🏾

@sanidanyagiri6824

Жыл бұрын

@@tumelotsenoli9172 And what did Klopp do before Dortmund? He was at a midtable side (much like Potter). What did Pep do before Barca, possibly the biggest job in football? He was an academy coach. What did Arteta do before Arsenal? His only coaching experience was as an assistent. See everyone starts somewhere, and what trophies they've won before doesn't matter one bit. Potter did an admirable job at Brighton and everyone knew he'd get a big job as a result, those are his credentials. Quite similar to Klopps before he joined Dortmund too.

@tumelotsenoli9172

Жыл бұрын

@@sanidanyagiri6824 non of those guys went on a wretched run of 2 wins in 17 the Potter defends against Everton at home on the 63rd minute leading by one goal that’s mid table mentality anyone who thinks Potter has a plan is delusional the guy has been 10th the whole time Tuchel won the ucl in 6 months you think Potter has any chance against Ancelotti 😩😂😂 he couldn’t beat Sean Dyche with a 600 million squad

Roman was one of the best owners to ever grace the EPL and even elevated the EPL to another level globally. Turned Chelsea into the most successful London team during his time and for a long portion wasn’t even allowed to be in the country and still ran it incredibly well given the circumstances. The culture he built here can never be beaten, the standards never dropped, and you could see from our past players that they loved it

As a Chelsea fan, seeing the rise of Liverpool & Man City going head to head for 5 seasons in a row, they just took it to another level. We were always rhe 3rd best in England with those 2 around. Chelsea would still be competing if Abramovitch was still around. Need to remember that he was forced out by the government. I as a fan do not trust Potter 1 bit.

@aymanhaque6936

Жыл бұрын

Do you trust Todd Boehly ?

@sebiejohnson8110

Жыл бұрын

​@@aymanhaque6936 Never

Even if he did at least they won something in the years gone by unlike other teams and their owners

Roman has been probably the best owner in world football over the last 20 years. He wanted nothing less than the best for the club and truly cared about Chelsea.

With abramovich we knew that chelsea was gonna minimum at least win a trophy every season only three times during his 19 year tenure we failed to win a trophy in a season and with Bohley looking like he’s gonna end his first season without a trophy just shows how good chelsea were under his ownership never forgotten 💙

Sacking Ancelotti is one of the worst decision I’ve ever seen under Roman

@xxballer099gfxxzz3

Жыл бұрын

He thought managers like Jose and Carlo just grew on trees

@joshbrown2217

Жыл бұрын

This I felt was the turning point in his ownership stlye. The lead up to this was us just desperately chasing that champions league, which is why he got sacked as he got poor results in it. Once we got it, it felt like we then were happy. But I do feel after this point, Roman looked for more long-term managers and never really found one that suited his style until Tuchel

@magivkmeister6166

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, but Tuchel was also pretty successful, winning a UCL

@minatodroger7890

Жыл бұрын

True he would have gotten him that UCL i feel

@Obidii

Жыл бұрын

@@magivkmeister6166 no manager has come close to what Carlo gave in terms of play style

Without Roman Abramovich it is highly likely Chelsea wouldn’t have existed due to the financial situation, let alone win countless trophies and buy the best players

@Extreme2SwaggerHD

Жыл бұрын

I hear this all the time but this is simply false, Chelsea would have still existed, they weren't close to bankruptcy whatsoever you can even watch an interview by one of your former owners ken bates on sky sports where he said that was simply false wasn't true.

@AtTheBridgePod

Жыл бұрын

@@Extreme2SwaggerHD they very much were

@Extreme2SwaggerHD

Жыл бұрын

@@AtTheBridgePod no they weren't how were they? How much money did they have when they were bought?

@fakhrianuar9264

10 ай бұрын

​​@@Extreme2SwaggerHD 96 million pounds debt in 2003. And technically Chelsea are owning debt to roman worth 1.5 billion but he simply didn't ask for payment which led to you know, 600 million spend on transfer

@fakhrianuar9264

10 ай бұрын

​@@Extreme2SwaggerHD and before you said anything, that amount of money is worth about 160 million now. For 2003, 96 million is a big amount of money, it's until recently about few years ago that amount is considered as small

This ‘held back’ concept could also be said about the great SAF in Manchester, albeit not exactly the same as Roman to Chelsea. United’s success under SAF made them a powerhouse, in terms of reputation and revenue. If it wasn’t for SAF who brought great success to United, the Glazers probably would’ve never bought United in the first place, as the club wouldn’t have the the commercial value that they have today.

@IMMERSIVEVOICE

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the Rock of Gibraltar fiasco which led to the Glazers

@EdgarHunk

Жыл бұрын

Also for Arsenal FC under Wenger, the fact that they always finished in the top four under him without winning the EPL for nearly a decade and eight trophyless seasons meant that the club was witnessing Champions League football per season, which didn't harm financially, but had he underperformed massively in any of the seasons all those years, the arsenal board could've tried something else instead of sticking with him. Hence, they were always consistent in being inconsistent.

@sususegar

Жыл бұрын

@@IMMERSIVEVOICE Exactly. United fans keep longing for the good ol' days. but they seem to forget or are unaware that the club is where it is now because of that damn horse. As a long time United fan who lived through that fiasco, I'm wary of over-celebrating Fergie.

@luizhumbertocampos1103

Жыл бұрын

​@@EdgarHunk Wenger underperformed? You must be joking. It was a great job to finish in the top 4 for all this years spending few money.

@EdgarHunk

Жыл бұрын

@@luizhumbertocampos1103 i didn't say Wenger underperformed...i made a prediction...all those years had he underperformed... Arsenal FC could've opted for something else to battle the dominance of rising Chelsea and Man utd... finishing top 4 ensured champions league football...but with no silverware for 8 seasons arsenal FC was surely held back...

i won’t tolerate this slander

@mobo204

Жыл бұрын

Tell them

@Chengyuan79

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, dspaceman. I mean, I have stopped watching football for 10+ years, but Roman is one of the best football club owners, ever. On hindsight.

Idk, I imagine a lot of clubs in the league are being held back by not having £600million to spend in a single season.

@ebnest123

Жыл бұрын

Most clubs don't have the commercial value and revenue like Chelsea for winning multiple Champions Leagues and selling youth players Idk

18 major trophies while in charge, more than any other EPL club during that time. He leaves, now we're 10th. Who came up with this question?

@It14f-37

Ай бұрын

what do you consider major trophies?

@mindsai7

Ай бұрын

@@It14f-37 5 prem league, 5 FA cup, 3 league cup, 2 champs league, 2 europa league, 1 uefa super cup. Oh, and 1 world club cup, so 19 total. I guess the 3 league cups are debatable as “major”.

@It14f-37

Ай бұрын

@@mindsai7 you're basically excluding friendlies and maybe Carabao Cup? I'm not saying Europa League is not important, but I can't consider major because you only qualify to it if your actual objective is failed. I'd consider major only the Champions League and the national leagues. Maybe the national cups, such as FA Cup and Copa del Rey, but a lot of fans seem not to care a lot about them.

In 2001/02 season Leeds and Chelsea finished within 2 points of each other. Over the next two seasons they both saw a change of ownership. Which timeline would you rather have? Winning every trophy available, often multiple times, or wining League 1 and the Championship?

I am not sure if Potter is tactically good enough for a dynasty. I would put my faith in Thomas Tuchel every time

Klopp has 1 PL title in that era and comparing his tenure with Roman or praising Boehly and saying theirs is the correct approach when they have no title or hope for one is a mockery. Ever since you were bought by the Athletic, you are now a PR mouthpiece. Respect Roman

The Best owner ever, he was used as a scapegoat by the Government.

@connorj6462

Жыл бұрын

FACTS

As an Arsenal fan I wish we had an owner like him!

A video on how Xabi Alonso is faring at Bayer Leverkusen and insight into his journey to management would be fantastic

Forever in our hearts, Roman Abramovic. 💙💙💙

@oitoitoi1

11 ай бұрын

He was a crook. typical plastic Chelsea fan.

@Billythetoaster2004

10 ай бұрын

@@oitoitoi1 all of them are crooks

@dempseyagain

9 ай бұрын

@@oitoitoi1 oh please, dont act like you care you hypocrite. You vote for crooks, you buy from crooks, you support crooks.

@baileygregory9192

5 ай бұрын

​@@oitoitoi1plenty of foriegn managers are

Felt that this video kinda gets a couple of things wrong. remember there were two factors which caused us to not fully capitalise on our success, 1. being player power and 2 being political power affecting Roman from properly investing in Chelsea for the last 5 years. You could blame the sackings, but Mou probably got a bit too arsey about the transfers at the end of the 3rd season and had a habit of running hot then. Ancelloti was the only other one where we probably should have gave more time and allowed him to work. Other than that, I can't think of any managers who had long term futures at Chelsea and could handle the player power that was rampant. Anyone who the players felt weren't playing them correctly, would feel them not putting in a shift or ignoring. The political power was Roman not being allowed back in te country, so he cut back on investing in the training facilities or upgrading the stadium or the scouting system and he dropped back while the board took more control. You can't really say he held us back, when it was more him hoping the situation for him would lighten up and he wouldn't be kicked out like he was. So I think it's harsh to say he held us back per see. We probably could have been better if it wasn't for this, remember, Tuchel seemed like the first manager Roman believed in and these factors were removed.

Abramovich is still the most influential owner that change the premier League atmosphere ever

Man City took abramovich's strategy and executed it with greater aggression.

@patrickbateman1660

Жыл бұрын

And yet still no UCL lol

I would rather have 1 champions league than 5 premier leagues

@eleonarcrimson858

Жыл бұрын

Cope

@frankunodostres473

Жыл бұрын

100%. it's the biggest trophy a club in europe can win.

@joshuamontijo4359

Жыл бұрын

@@eleonarcrimson858 cope with 2 CLs 🤞🏼

@BWart-zp5hy

Жыл бұрын

You have sth wrong with your brain, get it check

@BWart-zp5hy

Жыл бұрын

Any Chelsea fans who says 1 UCL over 5 league title are plastics. With the right manager like Pep Chelsea and right structure, we would win everything.

The title is fairly misleading and not actually indicative of the video's focus I think, a more adept question would involve the long-term vs short-term structures that were talked about in the video. In fact, I think that shaping this video around Abramovich at all has made it both more contentious and less compelling, the real meat of the question here revolves around the comparison of the short term success stories of managers like Conte and Mourinho and the sustainable dynasty-building style that Pep and Klopp seem to have perfected recently

@joshbrown2217

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this, this is why I was hoping to see them dive deep into how Roman was banned from the country, how this lead to a lack of improvement in the scouting and training facilities, also the bad transfers in this period. Along with how Chelsea went for this short terminism and regretted it after sacking Ancelotti and then started going for these weird managers who we hoped would be a good long term manager.

@KelechiNwoko

Жыл бұрын

@@joshbrown2217 but in the end he won trophies

@joshbrown2217

Жыл бұрын

@@KelechiNwoko Ah yeah no doubt, but I wouldn't change it. But more think this led to the bad player scouting as we tried to treat each manager as a project.

This is a point I was making with other Chelsea fans saying that despite the fact that we've won a good amount of trophies, we just haven't been very good in the league and have become basically a top 4 competing team. It's good to win major trophies like the champions League or even the Europa League and the domestic cups (which coincidentally we haven't won since 2018) but we have really just been predictable when it comes to our League form. Start the season okay, then December comes around and a few injuries affect our squad we fall out of top four or title contention by the time it's January to mid February, then from March to mid May we are scrapping for a place in the top four and it's honestly been the same since 2017 we really haven't come close to competing for the premier League and the fact that Arsenal who have been utter garbage up until this season are on the verge of winning the league just really put paid to how badly we've performed when it comes to league form. We have in essence become a cup team for the last five seasons and now, even say from the time Jose won the premier League in 14-15, we've just been there and there abouts. We win a trophy one season and then fall apart the next lather, rinse repeat. I know that it's been tough this season but I definitely think that what is happening to Chelsea this season is pretty much a necessary reset, it may not look pretty but it's a necessary reset to start again and make us the competitive Chelsea in the league the way we were between 2003 to about 2014 when we were averaging at least 4 points or so away from the team I would go on to win the league if we didn't win it all ourselves.

More and more i have to be grateful as an Arsenal fan that the owners didn't just make decisions by popular demand but they see long term vision. Especially with a young coach with no pedigree. If we win it this year, im forever grateful to the owners for sticking by Arteta when it wasn't popular

The 🐐 of club owners Roman Abramovich 💙⚽️

The best owner any fan could hope for. Roman is the best.

@tifo - I agree with most of the points in this video but I think Tifo got one major point wrong about Chelsea’s approach under Boehly - in a manager focused approach the manager decides along with his small team - which players he should include in his squad - in Chelsea’s case poor Graham had no say in this matter - and overpriced players were shoved into his squad and almost all at once

Chelsea would not even be relevant without him.

I would have thought the transfer bans had a mentionable impact.

I hadn’t paid attention to it before, but the editing of these video is so good.

In the klopp/guardiola era, Chelsea have actually won 1 premier league and 1 champions league which is the same as klopp....

@connorj6462

Жыл бұрын

THIS

ok it's 8:50 right now and the video title is "has roman abramovich actually held chelsea back?" check again in a few hours and the title will be different! they always do this for some reason

You, as many other do, forgot to mention a huge factor as to why we've not competed for the league title since Conte's first season in 2016/17 - John Terry left the club the same summer after that title win. His role as Mr Chelsea and club captain for so long wouldve been crucial in the dressing room for title run-ins, motivating and leading the players on and off the pitch to give it their all and get over the line. There's been a number of seasons since he left that we've started strongly but tailed off around Christmas/new year during the main period of premier league fixture congestion, in which I'm sure his presence would've helped us through to go all the way for the title if he was still around in the squad, even if not playing much/at all as in that Conte title season.

I would also add that only Arsenal has managed to do it... with Arteta who was second manager under Guardiola, which is crazy when you are considering all of this.

It would have been interesting if Abramovich didn’t sell the club as it looked like to me he was willing to give Tuchel time, especially because Tuchel had a good relationship with Petr Cech

To answer the title - HE DID NOT, HE MADE THEM REAL GOOD. One of the best owners ever to grace the EPL. In fact, if he was still the owner, Chelsea would probably be title contenders right now as Roman does not cut corners and takes the quickest way to trophies. With that said, GRAHAM "PROCESS COACH BRITISH BIAS" POTTER would not be a selection at all if RA was at the helm. Bet Roman would have gotten a high profile coach like Zidane and spent half a billion to do so.

@hugoumero9723

Жыл бұрын

If Saudi Media Group Bought Chelsea maybe Graham Potter would probaly not been hired and instead hired Pochettino or Zidane

Hmm… Liverpool & Man City’s managerial stability has blown them away, has it? What could they learn from this?

Roman set the standard.

This does not fly. For all the Klopp praise, he's only won 1 PL title in 8 years. Statistics like Chelsea failing to win 2 trophies in a season since 14/15 is very misleading because it excludes the FA Cup final in 16/17 (lost as a result of terrible refereeing), the Carabao Cup final in 18/19 (lost on pens), the FA Cup final in 20/21, and the Carabao & Fa Cup finals in 21/22 (both lost on pens), all of which would have resulted in a double trophy win, and even a triple on one occasion, without even including the UEFA Super Cup and Club World Cup won in 21/22. And why is the PL title win THE MAIN MEASURE for success? The Liverpool and Man City teams referenced as the yardsticks have practically done nothing in Europe over 7 years and 14 combined attempts (bar the UCL win for Liverpool in 18/19), while Chelsea in that time has twice triumphed in Europe, again not counting the UEFA Super Cup. The Klopp "dynasty" is almost certainly coming to an end. What happens to Liverpool then? Another rebuild that will take 3 or 4 years and still end up winning just 1 PL title in 7 years overall? What happens to these "dynasties" when the Managers are gone? The "managerial dynasty" is supposedly a long term thing, but maybe it's not as a solution, as "long-term" as it should be.

This is the most obscure football related question i have ever came across. Is the author of this text even aware what he is trying to say or ask? Abramovic kept the Chelsea getting titles and trophies and since the day that England decided to ban him from country that is where Chelsea started to be held back. It is not about Abramovic that helds this club back. Potter got the same situation as Mourinho had when he just came to Chelsea. Mourinho got best players and won back to back titles 2 in a row straight away with Wenger and Ferguson as main rivals. But the author of this school example of how wrong people can think about football obviously forgot that Mourinho had 2 biggest managers against him at that time Ferguson and Wenger, while Potter got Guardiola and Klopp. I understand possible favorism of this video author towards Klopp and Guardiola but you completely missed the point and the reason of held back. It is not about Abramovic who would still bring this club success if he was not banned from England just because he is Russian, it is about the quality of current manager who won nothing prior to coming to Chelsea just like Lampard as a manager, because Mourinho, Ancelotti and Conte are far more superior when you give them good players. And to be totaly honest, one of the main reasons Abramovic Chelsea was so much success is not just money its the fact that he would sack a manager the moment he see that the club will not be a champion. Mourinho done more then any of them for Chelsea but he was also sacked. So now when Abramovic is not here, what is american owner waiting to see from Potter? Answer to that question is the answer on why Chelsea is held back, and Abramovic got nothing to do with that. People forget fast in football, Mourinho had Ferguson and Wenger invincibles against him, so why do you even make a punchline with Guardiola and Klopp being at Premier League? Or you forgot the fact that Mourinho won it 2 times in a row against the best managers and clubs at that time Wenger "invincibles" and Fergusons United. I love this channel i really do but sometimes a lack of objectivity and favorism towards some managers is too obvious.

One thing which authors missed is the ban for two season to make any transfers

Roman had us as the most successful team in England for 2 decades and 2nd most successful club in Europe (besides Real Madrid) he’s arguably the greatest single football owner of all time. Boehly’s been great so far, love his project, vision and the structure he’s building but the longer he keeps Graham Potter in charge the longer that will be overlooked… best to stop prolonging the inevitable and bring in a world class manager (preferably Flick for me)

Held them back? Then what have the glazers, stan kroenke, daniel levy done to their clubs then?

Abramovich was a smart consisten owner who strived to exceeds even his own expectations

Wdym "held them back in the long run", what long run my friend, they would've never challenged for anything major if he hadn't bought the damn club

Ah yes, the man who made us relevant held us back, insane.

It can be argued in some way because he fired managers like Carlo and Jose a bit too early. However, he was the best owner ever for me.

Not taking into account the success of the academy at youth levels, as well as the women's team kind of undermines this point when you consider the club as an overall entity. His investment into the whole club is what his reign should be judged by not just the big name signings and managers

@connorj6462

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Well said

The visuals on this video are insane!

Not a bad video but also ignores that both Liverpool and City are regressing more toward the mean this season as well. No team is going to put up 90+ points each season on the long enough timeline in a competitive league. The truth is that another factor is other clubs are getting better organized, recruiting more tactfully, and also building more long term projects than they were inclined to a decade ago. It's too early to tell but I suspect it will become harder and harder to "buy" success in the Premier League and we are entering a period of even stiffer competition. Pep himself has helped pioneer a way forward for clubs with less star player reliance than used to be common (not that star players aren't still important).

Love that the trophies graph has 0.5 increments for some reason lol

Referencing Liverpool as having achieved long term sustained success when they've won 1 PL and 1 CL in seven seasons under Klopp, while saying Chelsea wasn't able to sustain success with "short term" approach is just hilarious. Roman's "short term" approach resulted in sustained success over 20 years before politics forced him to sell. Two decades is long term success in my book.

some of the decision he took held us back, agreed but i think we had something going on with him and Thomas Tuchel. i think if he sold the players TT didn't and build a project with him i think we would have compete with the likes of City and Liverpool.

This video didn't age well

The improvements under the new ownership are unreal. Focus on the manager 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

The biggest issue was FFP, Roman used to clean up his mistakes by bumping more money in. Chelsea had to become more self sustainable after 2012 and they held onto average players a lot longer than they used to before 2012.

Sometimes I can't stand the discourse around big clubs. They won every major trophy under him. Of course he didn't hold them back. Marcus Evans held Ipswich back, the string of owners Derby have put up with held them back. Literally anyone who supports a club outside of the rich six would *love* to be 'held back' if that means twenty trophies.

I don’t understand how ? He won th boat load of trophies and gave them one of the best youth academies in the world

@NostalgiNorden

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Try watching the video.

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@@NostalgiNorden I watched they basically said because they haven’t won the league in a while but that’s still ridiculous as no team has divine right to win the league plus they been winning trophies including a ucl.

Liverpool have 1 prem title in the last 30 years. From Klopps appointment 2015-2023 chelsea have won every single trophy they have… and then some.

Loved RuPauls drag race reference!!! Good video

Tifo Football used to be one of my favorite football channels. It is sad that that it only talks about money and accounting lately.

Last season; the 1st full season of Thomas Tuchel, is the one that people believe Chelsea could challenge and won the PL title. Some positives already worth noting; winning the UEFA Super Cup, the comeback of Lukaku, some youth introduction like Trevoh Chalobah, the usage of Kepa as PK specialist, being the team that is solid defensively and also able to unlock opponent defense; is the sign of a winning team. Then injury came. Chilwell and James is massive loss because their ability is the one that make the formation at the time clicking. While on left side Alonso can still perform smartly, he didn't have the speed of Chilwell. And on right side, no one can do what James did. Azpi also became older, no natural RWB, they have to use Loftus-Cheek, Chalobah, or even Pulisic as RWB. Then Lukaku drama, what a mess. From a winning form to become winless in some match. Chelsea had some ups too by winning the Club World Cup, completing the trophy cabinet. But then the worst thing came: the aggression of Russian against Ukraine. Chelsea lost some focus in the competition, need to find solution about the ownership and all related stuff. Despite that Chelsea still making it into the final of FA Cup and League Cup. Unfortunately Chelsea lost it both to Liverpool. Chelsea also lost against Pep in the league and also can't win against Klopp. 2 draw in the league and lost 2 in the final. In the league, Chelsea was the best third, but with quite a large gap to Man City the Champions. The end was quite anti-climatic. We can only imagine what can Chelsea achieve in the league if Chelsea had depth in Wingback department, no drama from Lukaku and if the Russian aggression never happened. Me personally think Chelsea can win the Premier League if all of those didn't happen.

Oh, I get it now - instead of winning the most trophies out of anyone - what Abramovich should've done is, hire a mid-table manager and stuck with him for 5 years, while running the club into the ground.

The most invested owner out of all not British owners . Where's John Henry ? He's running , running from LFC fans but Roman was there and was adamant to get the club fighting for all trophies. But his obsession with Torres and Kaka was funn

Literally nobody is asking this question. He is considered one of the best owners in the club's history and rightfully so. This channel seems to be running out of ideas pretty quickly these days

I don’t think it was ever his plan to have the club stripped away from him so I see why he hadn’t thought about chelsea under new owners

Imagine if Brighton or Brentford were “held back” by this amount of spending.

tottenham fan here, this is the most ridiculous theory... what has held Chelsea and other clubs back, is Mansours Oil monney and City making a mockery out off FFP

Videos like this are why I laugh anytime you get recommended to me. Keep the football hipster thing going it seems to be working out.

Chelsea have not believed in a managerial dynasty since Roman took over and his methods have achieved success so hard to argue with. Building a lasting dynasty means you need world class managers who can consistently deliver over a long period like Pep and Klopp. Chelsea only ever appointed coaches that succeed in the short term and weren't in it for the long haul.

As a Chelsea fan I felt for a long time that his era was gradually fizzling in the last 6 years. In trying to navigate FFP and competing with other big money clubs the depth of actual quality in the squad started dropping. The financial muscle that gave him the advantage in the early years just wasn't sustainable anymore and other clubs caught up. Impact managers only get you so far. When Lampard became the manager his ideas were long term focused and were much bigger than Chelsea had been doing under the Abramovich era to that point. It was clearest of all then that the Abramovich model was too limited in scale for the future. With the new owners and Potter, this project is much like the things Lampard spoke of. I'm actually inclined to believe that maybe Chelsea was the one club where Lampards management would have had the structure needed to actually work amazingly long term and he would have been very successful. Everton especially are not a club equipped for Lampards larger scale vision. This project now with Potter has lots of cogs being put in which say to me that Chelsea will have a lot of big and more consistent success in years to come. I even feel that Chelsea have the potential to win the CL far more often with this model and potentially towards the levels Real have done.

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Not a Chelsea supporter but I married into a Chelsea family. I watch the team most matches. I see a lot of people having a go at Chelsea on social media and laughing at the excessive spending when in reality, Cheslea's squad is not that far off from competing. With a top class 9, and a good replacement for Kovacic (when he leaves), I think people won't be laughing in a season or two.

The video doesn’t mention the transfer ban

The competition has improved vastly

Sponsored by Todd Boley? 😅 Roman was by far the most successful club owner in history. The stats don't lie.

Abramovic set standards at Chelsea that wouldn't allow the managers or players to get too comfortable and coast along like what happened under Wenger at Arsenal or under everyone bar Pochettino at Spurs. Recognising that they aren't as successful now because of Klopp or Gaurdiola is right, but I think it wrong to call them or Arteta process managers.

I watched this yesterday and now I'm back lmao

Not held back, but for the amount of money he spent should have won more if he had little patience. Sacking Jose 1.0 and Carlo are poor decisions, interfering in recruitment by signing some of the duds in Sheva and Torres are some of his mistakes. But other than that, he only bought positivity to the club with his money and presence. He got lot of decisions right as well hiring Jose, Carlo sacking RDM (wouldn't have been a success). Turning CFC into a trading club (Marina played a major role). Recruitment never improved, even if it had signed few gems was let go for short term strategy but overall a good club owner.

One of, if not the outright best owner the PL has ever had

This is really funny to watch a few months on 😂

People forget that chelsea started investing first much more before city,lots of young players was there salah,kdb,kourtois,lukaku,he was just impatient with coaches,and in conte second year didnt had luck with transfers bakayoko,morata,drinkwater,thats all,brilliant owner and legend,daddy roman.

I'm not even sure I understand the question... So I'll certainly be keeping my own council on this one 😶

This should just as much be about Alisson and Ederson with Courtois leaving/Chelsea relying on Kepa

You forgot to mention Chelsea's failure to implement their academy players, and thus resorted to a system of the "Loan Army Club" to generate funds. If you want to be a successful team, a cheap alternative to purchasing the best youth talents is to develop them.

Not Chelsea fan, but i think Abramovich era is good era for Chelsea, major setback when he left.

I think the video could have made the point better by stating that Abramovich's money gave Chelsea success, not Abramovich himself. Or to phrase it this way: If Chelsea had found oil worth billions under their field and could have spent that money without the influence of Abramovich, that money would have created a much longer lasting effect. It is never good for any kind of project to have someone in charge who doesn't really know what they're doing, but they are in charge because of them having the money to take control. Twitter isn't run by an expert on social media platforms or a programmer, it is run by someone who inherited wealth, is a god salesman and got lucky breaks with his investments, but otherwise has not earned the position at the company. On the other side, an actual programmer invested in Hoffenheim, but the club will likely disappear over the next decade, as it wasn't the expertise of programming that got the team into the Bundesliga, but the money of Dietmar Hopp. Similarly Windhorst wasn't a football player or an expert before he became extremely influential at Hertha BSC - and so his money got wasted, as there was no one in charge who actually knew what they were doing. PSG will never win the Champions League, because the owners don't care about football; sports-washing can only buy so much before actual quality kicks. Yes, money buys success. To a degree. But if those who give the money didn't rise to the top within an at least somewhat meritocratic system, then the success ends with the flow of the money. Good for Chelsea that they had that money flowing in for so long. But as long as non-experts have the amount of control they have, it will only work for as long as the money gets pumped in. And eventually sports-washing will be proven to be non-efficient, the younger generations be put off by the soul-less money game, the return on capital won't be the same as it is now when the old fans don't get replaced by the youth and football will not attract investors and billionaires, anymore. And then what's left? No money, no fans, no coverage... and no football. I'd say Abramovich didn't hold Chelsea back, I think he's partially responsible for the coming demise of football itself.

Chelsea currently have a project manager with a galacticos buying process.

I still believe that although short termism not the solution, a long term approach also needs the right personnel and Graham Potter is not the right man to head this project

the bit about Potter aged well...

King roman will is always loved we need a statue of him outside the bridge 😡