Awesome tip for freezing the recycled oil to separate the water and oil! Getting ready to maintenance new pump after two months and 28 cycles.

Thanks for the heads up advice on freezing the oil.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

my pleasure!

We have had our premium green pump for a year now and done 90 cycles changing the oil every 20 times and we just took the housing off to clean out and it was so clean. No rust no gunk.

@live.life.simple.

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome to hear!

I have the HRC 7-115 pump and it does the same thing. I agree they should have invested in stainless steel. Wish I could insert a pic to show you.

HR sent a paper with my (HR) pump that says do the maintenance at 30 batches. Mine had nothing like the mess you had inside the cover. It was just a bit dirty on the pump itself, but nothing whatsoever on the cover. It may matter that I use Dairyland oil, as suggested by many users. It is great, I believe it has detergents that help keep it clean.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

I will have to make my next batch of oil Dairyland. Just like in anything that uses oil, the quality of oil is HUGE. Good to know that HR is promoting the maintenance. Still recommending every 30 cycles?

Can you tell me about doing a power flush?

The freezing the water thing is genius!

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

Hope you can put that to use!

I can tell you, using a petroleum based oil on a rubber seal with cause it to prematurely deteriorate. You should use a silicone based lube, as it doesn’t etch and break down rubber. After all the time spent with your unit, and your different pumps, it seems a lot of people are having problems with the oil less spiral pumps. Do you think the premier pump would be the best for overall reliability?

I have the green premium pump and have only used the stock oil and Black Gold oil. I just pulled my pump apart and followed your video as a guide. My pump was corroded just like this. The carb cleaner ate away the green paint on the plastic base. Aside from that, all seems well. Is it safe to just add oil after using carb cleaner?

Great video. It looks easy !

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

It's not bad. Just messy!

@f3n1xplat3ad0

5 жыл бұрын

@@live.life.simple. I have been following the HR machine for years. Just sorting out some personal stuff before I dive into the FD community. I much appreciate the videos of pump maintenance and fixing common problems. Makes the journey less lonely. Thank you again.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. If you ever have questions feel free to reach out.👌

@jerrysmith372

5 жыл бұрын

@@f3n1xplat3ad0 I have no regrets for buying the oil less pump. Well worth the extra money.

How do you get oil out of the hose? My friend asked me to clean her pump. When they brought it over, they had disconnected the hose from the FD, not from the pump, and oil backed up into the hose.

What do think about the new oiless pump, do you think it's worth the up grade. I know there's benefit of it being oiless, but what about the sound difference? Before my purchase I questioned on of the sales reps at harvest right. There answer was it's just a little quieter than the standard pump. What do you think? Is it worth the upgrade?

Should the demister filter be changed on the vacuum pump.

I do this every 5 cycles and use WD-40 as cleaner,works great.

Question for “Retired Youngster” as I look at your pump it is covered with what I can only describe as the old style popcorn type foam ceiling material that has been spray painted black. I’d love to send you pics of mine to help me evaluate it. The outer surface of my pump almost looks as if this material that may be rust, was deliberately applied. It doesn’t look like rust, it looks painted on. I love your videos.

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

Sure. send me a picture. You can go to my facebook page and send a picture facebook.com/Retired-at-40-1759904760696918/

I highly recommend to anyone to get the oil less pump if you can. I hated dealing with the oil changes and filtering and the mess it made. I feel that the oil less pump is worth the money ($1200 + shipping). The only maintenance I have to do after 10 batches is run 1/4 cup of alcohol down through the hose with the pump running a couple of times to flush out any build up. It's so easy and only takes 5 min. give or take a few min. It's operating temperature is 130 F so be aware that it cranks out some heat but it's very quiet. It pulls a vacuum faster than the oil pumps. I have no regrets getting the oil less pump.

@dsbennett

3 жыл бұрын

The pump manual says you have to replace the tip gasket after 8,000 hours or one year, and replace a bunch of other stuff after 1,600 hours or two years. Not maintenance-free.

@kenrivard6992

2 жыл бұрын

Jerry: Have you ever done a repair kit seal change on the oil less pump?

@rebeccareid4335

Жыл бұрын

We had a LOT of people have these fail (for new buyers reading comments) Premier pump is what my vendor recommends now

Thanks for the video. Those older pumps get so dirty. I finally bought the stainless one off classifieds from a guy who upgraded to the oil less and this stainless keeps so much cleaner.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Good to know. It's hard to believe that they would make parts exposed to water out of steel, but anything to save a buck these days. I'll get a new pump one of these days, but its hard to give this one up. We've been through so much!!!

@mattdlmn

5 жыл бұрын

Retired at 40- Live.Life.Simple. Yeah I’ve watched what youve gone through with your pump and see why you’d be attached to it! I liked my older one but the coupler from the motor to the vacuum broke so I had no choice but to buy another

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

haha. I'm getting old and set in my ways but i too will upgrade once this one gives me a reason to.

@jerrysmith372

5 жыл бұрын

@@live.life.simple. You should consider the oil less pump. It's worth it.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sold on the oil less pump. I think they will prove to wear out quickly. Anything with that much friction and no lubrication can't last. For me the cost vs. Payout isn't there. Hopefully, I will be proven wrong and it will be something I will consider, but time will tell. What is your experience so far?

Bryan This is my comment on Harvest Right's new Vacuum Pump 7CFM. Model 2TW-3C To your point, even with their new Vacuum Pump Model 2TW-3C and the new 3/8 inch vacuum hose, we changed the oil after EVERY batch for a long-range test. After 30 batches I still had gunk in the pump case. While cleaning my Harvest Right Vacuum Pump today I noticed that the flexible aluminum shield, located in the top of the oil case shielding the air intake had holes in it and was deteriorated. The holes appeared to be the result of rust (although there is no evidence of rust in the case itself) or from acid. ( I have photos.) I contacted Harvest Right, as their main offices are just a few miles from my house, about replacement parts. They told me that HR is no longer servicing their vacuum pumps nor are they selling replacement parts for the pump. I asked for the name of the manufacturer and where I might buy repair parts. Their service techs told me that they are prohibited from referring customers to other companies. If any of your followers know where a person can buy parts, I would greatly appreciate their assistance. I went to Metal Mart and purchased a sheet of 1/32 inch aluminum sheeting. Using the old flash shield as a pattern I cut out a new shield. I wish that I could have used stainless steel, but I couldn't find that thin of metal sheet on the internet. I was told by HR Customer Service that I could also use a plastic sheet for the flashing. I might try that sometime, as plastic would be easier to cut and cheaper to buy. McClain Bybee (Orem, Utah)

@live.life.simple.

3 жыл бұрын

Is yours the standard oiled pump or the premier?

I have the new style, and it looks very clean when diassembled, nothing like yours.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Good to hear from you again Tim. Can you send me your site info again?

@KDMeowmmy

4 жыл бұрын

Timanator Is yours the oil free?

@KDMeowmmy

4 жыл бұрын

Retired at 40- Live.Life.Simple. When you say the new pump, are you referring to the oil free? Thank you ahead.

mine is the green pump, used 4 mm hex screws ...and there's poor clearance on the lower two, ..were buggers to get loose. Now I will say, been using Dairyland oil and when I opened ours after 20 cycles, the inside was practically immaculate! Note, because our pump seems to have poor vacuum pull, we drain, filter, remove water after EVERY Batch.. Doesn't take that long, but it's a bit of a hassle. Saw another video where the gentleman modified the pump with two quick release valves and cycles his oil through a Cannister Filter And additional Pump back to the FD pump. He said it allowed him to get under 500 mTorr consistently under 5 mins (and he had a Large FD). ...unfortunately he has not shared plans, I think he's looking at a contract with Harvest Right on the modification --which does appear to make the pump run much more efficiently and effectively! link to that Water Separator / Pump set up: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJiquMiCcaqpXaQ.html

@live.life.simple.

3 жыл бұрын

don't use dairyland oil in the premier pump, use a better quality oil like robinair or navac

Do you have a video on a power flush on the newer Harvest Right vacuum pumps ?

@live.life.simple.

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately no. I have an oilless pump

@marlinwilliams3892

3 жыл бұрын

Retired at 40- Live.Life.Simple. How are you liking the oil less pump? Just ordered and upgraded to the premier pump. Couldn’t really wrap my mind around a pump with no oil. Thanks!!

Just saying, my pump looks nothing like this one even on the inside. Being the tinkerer that I am, after 15 batches I pulled it apart. I also pulled apart the pump finding it a well made piece of American product. Like Walt Payne and Timanator , I found my pump a lot cleaner than the one on this video. What I found was a pump with a main pump and a smaller one. The oil inside did not appear to be dirty at all. I assume I have a new version which looks like a massive improvement of the old one. My pump was not rusted YET. The splash guard was also different. My oil pan only had 4 allen screws and a smaller seal. Same goes for the smaller secondary pump which had 3 allen screws about 1/2" long. The main pump had 4 6" screws with 2 line up pins to the smaller pump section. The oil seals connecting the 2 were about a 1/16# in diameter and functioned great. I have had no issues with my Harvest Right medium sided freeze dryer. I know I reassembled it correctly after I threw in some BBQ chicken left over from our 4 of July gathering. Last time I checked, it was down to 192 mTorr on the vacuum side at -16. This thing functions flawlessly at the moment. I would recommend this product. It has produced excellent freeze dried food like the pros do however it is an investment but worth the money considering how much retail freeze dry food costs. For reference, my pump says HRC-7-115 model.

Hello. I need a replacement for the black cylinder on top of the vacuum pump. I believe it is the carbon exhaust filter? Any idea where I can purchase this from? Thanks

@live.life.simple.

3 жыл бұрын

check ebay

I have the Premier and it gets so hot in my room my A/c freezes up from running so long. I do open the window but in hot Florida makes no difference. Any suggestions welcome please.

@rebeccareid4335

Жыл бұрын

We have a small computer box Tarzan fan that comes on when our pump does. It really helps keep the pump cool

Hey Retired at 40. Love your vids. Anyway I have the exact same pump, and mine at times and even often will spew oil out the top because it's having a hard time making a seal. Does your pump or machine do that? I find that I have to pull out the rubber seal from the window each cycle to make sure the window seals right and the pump doesn't go volcano mode all over everything. Thanks!

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Where is the oil coming out? The handle area or the rubber seal shown in the video?

@holocene.

5 жыл бұрын

@@live.life.simple. Oh, it's always spouting out the white elbow on the handle of that Eliminator pump

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

just take a plastic container and cut a hole in it and place it over the spout to catch the spray

@billbaldwin569

5 жыл бұрын

If you unplug the pump from the back of the freeze dryer (while you door is closed) and plug it directly into a wall outlet (for just a few seconds), you can pull a short vacuum on the machine to make sure the door is sealed. Then plug the pump back into the freeze dryer and start the cycle. You may have to push on the door to make it seal. I had a problem with the door not always sealing, contacted HR and they sent out a new handle, that didn't fix anything, so now I just pull a vacuum first and haven't had a problem since. I also ran a piece of 1/2" PVC pipe from the handle to right past the back of the motor, put a Tee on it and ran it down into a tall plastic cup, I put the little filter thing on the top. Now if any oil comes out, I can pour it through a filter and use it instead of it being sprayed every where. | Filter goes here ----------| pipe from handle with Tee on the end | this piece runs down to about a 1/2" from the bottom of the cup.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Good to know.

Use Dairyland oil from Tractor Supply Co is a realy good oil

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

It's on the shopping list. Thank ya much.

@7wernli

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of these oils have chemicals that cause birth defects and cancer. Although it’s designed to keep the oil separate from the food there’s enough videos showing oil creep into the machine. Dairlyand is no exception.

@cheifseaair6896

4 жыл бұрын

Tried Dairlyland made the food taste like it smells. Trying to find another oil we like.

The high-quality oil at 7:35, what brand is that? Didn't see it on your Amazon list. Could I get away with using the same vacuum pump oil?

@live.life.simple.

3 жыл бұрын

I have a whole video on oils coming out this week. Robinair is usually your best bet

How many times can the packed toilet paper in the Brita filter be used? How often does it need replacing?

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

A hand full of filtering cycles and depends on what you were freeze drying.

@REDARROW-ez7dg

4 жыл бұрын

Retired at 40- Live.Life.Simple. Thanks.

I live in a condo/apartment. Would this be so loud that it would be a problem with my neighbors? I can faintly hear when they are vacuuming, but otherwise the walls seem to be pretty good at containing noise.

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

HR says the new oiled pump is about as loud as a dishwasher. I think that it is louder than that but it doesn't put out a loud annoying type noise it's more like a refrigerator compressor noise. The pump you see in this video is the old style and was much louder.

@karencushing2502

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Hi! What oil do you use on your gasket?

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

I use Dairyland Oil as of about 5 months ago. It is unmatched in quality and cleanliness and you won't even consider anything else once you use it. Here is a link for the oil i use: amzn.to/328IgqO

Our JB pump with harvest right labels started to leak pretty bad. We were sure it was the main shaft seal. We decided it wasn’t worth the money fixing and invested in the new 7Cfm pump. I’ve ran around 12 cycles through it since I got it about two weeks ago. I’ve noticed it is performing better than the old pump. However one thing that has been bothering me is if I’m supposed to open this pump up and when to do a similar cleaning like we did with the old one. The new manual for the newer pump has no information or recommendations to do this kind of maintenance. I was wondering if you could shine some light on the situation if you’ve heard anything. Also the new pump has a gas ballast valve on the side which is also not mentioned in its manual. I’m not sure what to make of it. Thanks.

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

Is the new pump the HR branded one?

@PunkRockBenWilson

4 жыл бұрын

Retired at 40- Live.Life.Simple. Yes it is

@FrancisR420

4 жыл бұрын

@@PunkRockBenWilson others have said the new pump does not recommend this type of cleaning as the pump naturally stays much cleaner

@PunkRockBenWilson

4 жыл бұрын

@@FrancisR420, I got about 16 cycles through the new pump, on batch 17 it quit on me. I'm kind of choked about it, to be honest as this is my second pump from harvest right to break on me with normal and recommended use. luckily they are shipping a new one out but in the meantime, the rest of my garden produce has spoiled. Can't win em all.

I noticed you use Black Gold Vacuum Oil in your pump. If your pump is the Standard pump and not the Premium Pump than my Instructions from Harvest Right stated that only use Black Gold Vacuum Oil in the Premium and not the Standard pump. Did you see that instructions? Could this be why your pump got so gunky? I just bought a used HR mid-size machine and am waiting for Harvest Right oil before I use it. Thanks, Butch in Idaho.

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

I use fairyland oil and HR also recommends it. My oiled pump is the now ancient JB pumps that were discontinued.

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

Dairy land not fairyland🤣

@sandhollowhomestead6972

4 жыл бұрын

@@live.life.simple. Thanks!

why not remove the water before the pump? Something like a water separator used for pneumatic air lines? maybe this is not possible at low pressure?

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

Harvestright uses a smaller diameter hose now that pretty much eliminates the water. I have also seen homemade water separation contraptions.

One more question if you don’t mind. Can freeze dried food be cooked (microwaved or in an oven) BEFORE rehydrating with liquid? Will it cook or burn, any ideas what will happen?

@live.life.simple.

4 жыл бұрын

I dont know of anything that would work before rehydrating

They make water filters that go inline before the pump I would use one of those first

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

The best element of the HR is the FD community! You rock! Where can i pick one of those up?

@justinfitzgerald8733

5 жыл бұрын

Retired at 40- Live.Life.Simple. I found them online if you have a grangers by you they might cary them

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Sure i'll check out granger. Appreciate the help.

@Paddyandpoppy

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, what is FD community?

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

"FD" Freeze Dryer, the people in the community. I will be starting a group on facebook to share tips and help with questions. facebook.com/Retired-at-40-1759904760696918/

We have the new oil pump and this is no longer recommended. Woo hoo! Didn't look bad though.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

the new oiled or oilless?

@carolclarkson4859

5 жыл бұрын

@@live.life.simple. oil.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

I would still do a maintenance Tom. I can't imagine how it would not build up sludge over time.

They didn't make it stainless steel because it would have added too much cost to the unit. They didn't make it aluminum because the rotating vanes inside would wear it out too quickly. But here's a tip, you should spray that rusty steel with phosphoric acid. The phosphoric acid will chemically react with the rust (iron oxide) to form a new substance called Iron phosphate. (the phosphoric acid will not harm the aluminum) Iron phosphate will actually help protect the steel from rusting any further. You can buy phosphoric acid in diluted form from most hardware stores (probably rebranded as concrete cleaner or water softener restorer), or you can get a more concentrated version called "Navel Jelly". Phosphoric acid is not toxic and is one of the main ingredients in Coca Cola.

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

Sweet! What a great tip. Thanks so much. Have you tried this on your vac pump?

@rgbcolor6450

5 жыл бұрын

@@live.life.simple. I haven't needed to try it (yet)... but I've been using phosphoric acid to fix rusty parts and stop further rust for 30 years. Its actually used to treat the bare metal parts on your car before they are painted or coated. In fact, automotive stores sell a product called "Rust Mort". You'll notice the liquid is green.. that's because phosphoric acid is green.. or you can check the MSDS Sheets and you'll see it usually says 25%-50% phosphoric acid. Its also a great trick to get rid of rust stains in your shower. Makes them disappear almost as fast as the liquid spray bottle gets them wet. Go purchase some Navel Jelly, brush it on, then rinse it off with water.. Then thoroughly dry. Use wire brush to remove the flaky rust first. Let it sit for an hour or so or give it a couple treatments. Do not let the acid dry, keep it wet. The rust will turn dark gray or black. Phosphoric acid is barely even an acid as its very mild, although it smells funky when using it. I like your Harvest Right videos. Keep it up!

@live.life.simple.

5 жыл бұрын

That's great. I appreciate the excellent tip. I'll use it on my next maintenance and if it works well, suggest it to other Freeze dryers.