I dont give a shit about trying one out. I'm BUYING one. Best bass that Tomman ever did. If it needs fixing, I'll fix it. If it needs love, I'll love it. Thanks

@christianhildalgo

4 жыл бұрын

Did you buy it? If so, how is the treble?

@Pabloignacioalvarez

3 жыл бұрын

I bought one The nut was too high and the fret were sticking out of the neck I filed it and now it’s my best bass

I wish I could have bought a bass that quality when I started out it's incredible the quality of budget basses now

I love these reviews because I can't resist checking out these exquisite expensive toys. But lately I also find myself watching these reviews to steal riffs and ideas from your guy, Rene. The dude does it all and without showing off. Inspiring.

@reneflachsenhaar2968

6 жыл бұрын

Damn thieves....:-). Wish you all the best, renè.

we live on the era of golden cheap guitars :)

@murphyebass7837

4 жыл бұрын

Anatol Gjati we really are. I played some woeful guitars and basses 20+ years ago. Kids these days really don’t know how lucky they are. Mental

@rolux4853

4 жыл бұрын

It’s really insane what quality you can get in the 100-600$ class. From absolutely playable basic instruments which you can take to the stage to amazing (and really expensive) looking instruments! I’ve went as far as replacing all my Fender instruments with Squiers Classic Vibe Series. It freed a lot of my money, so I bought high quality tube amps for Bass and guitar, where more money still invested (usually) still means better sound. However, I replaced the Squier Pickups with Custom Shop PUs, polished the frets and rounded the Fretboard edges to my likings. But that’s the work I also put into my Fender instruments, the guitars weren’t faulty or anything. It’s just my extended type of setup, which every of my instruments gets.

@18hot30

3 жыл бұрын

golden era of cheap guitars, there fixed it for ya

@dominicrossitto5890

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe “inexpensive “ might be a better label for these vastly and cost effective instruments?

@anumak007ink

Жыл бұрын

100% but i am from middle east how can i order ?? 😢

Once again, the case is made for budget basses being perfectly fine, and you can mod them to make them awesome. And Rene keeps putting out cooler and cooler dittys!

Thx for put René again to the channel. 👍

I could listen to this guy play bass all day. :)

I just got one after your review. I am really happy with it. Now I need to learn all the licks in the video

I absolutely love Rene's playing

@vedfe142

6 жыл бұрын

and his beard

@benoit1335

6 жыл бұрын

i only watch for René!!!

@reneflachsenhaar2968

6 жыл бұрын

Hey people, thanks a lot!!! :-)

@Mark761966

6 жыл бұрын

And his hat. Rene was obviously abandoned in the forest as a baby and raised by Gnomes.

Good review, great playing. Thank you both

Excellent comme d'habitude. Merci de la remarque pour l'espace entre le micro et le manche qui me gênerait pour le slap. J'ai déjà une harley benton pb50 et c'est de la tuerie.

Another great review, go Rene!

I'm always astonished at the price tag of these basses. Already own two Progressives, a fretted translucent black and a fretless black. They sound really awesome, considering the price, though, as you mentioned, sometimes a little bit dull. I think, it's really cool, that, especially beginners, that just want to try playing bass, have such possibilities these days. For me it's a cheap way to try out different bass setups, to find what I like best, before getting a custom bass from Sandberg or other manufacturers/luthiers. :-)

Bought this one this last year and the PB-50 last week. Both basses are in my eyes killers. Alotta bang for your money. I don't care about names, I care about the noise they make. In short I am really glad I bought these. And keep up the good work. Really like the reviews!!

@dionisiogdrb

6 жыл бұрын

Dennis Ruijs which one do you prefer?

@pyotrilyichtchaikovsky3733

4 жыл бұрын

yeah which one is better?

I own this exact bass. It is my go to bass, I will play this instead of my Jackson. It is a seriously great piece of kit.

Thanks for reviewing Harley Benton basses! I'm considering purchasing one, and your reviews are invaluable.

Love the music man stingray style. Great playing bass

Beautiful tone

My main bass is a HB PJ-75 Vintage. I love it! Would love to see that one on your channel. Cheers

I just ordered this and a couple others, I never bought a budget bass before other than a Squire PJ when I was 10yrs old and it was a pos. I always mod my Carvins and fenders anyway so these just look like fun to work on.

This has to be one of the best Bass guitars on the planet price wise its un beatable and it records superbly. Thomann gives excellent service and takes care of its customers.

Got the 5 strings version earlier this year, it's really nice, especially for 198€ !! BUT, the 118€ PB-20 SBK (satin black variant) has much better finitions, frets, tuners and even pots ^^ My MM-85A has kinda sharp and unpolished fret-ends, tilted knobs, loose selector "button" (you know, that black plastic thing on the selector arm) which popped off the first time I touched it (seen in my unboxing). Unlike the PB-20 SBK, this one needed some tuning on the string heights, but intonation was spot-on. I still love it, but I deffinitely see the gap between the "deluxe" of the cheapest and the cheapest of the mid-tier. Paying for the Daddario strings, Roswell Pickups and active pre-amp, instead of feel and finish. Your video was definitely a big help in buying this nice Bass, thank you :)

Good that I rewatched the review. I was about to order this bass, mainly I like the looks. When I rewatched the review, there was one point I didn't get the the first time: the fat neck of this bass. So this one is out, I like slim necks like the Ibanez SR necks. I own a Harley Benton PJ-4 HTR and that neck is the thickest I would like to have and play. So saving some money and opting for a Harley Benton BZ-4000 NT or Enhanced MP-4MN Natural. Of course I'll go through your affiliate links when ordering, as a little reward and thank you for your work ;)

Good job... fair and to the point!

A very good Review , thanks .

I purchased one of these on ya'lls recommend! Dropped some EMG's in it and it's my main gigging bass

@etpslick100

5 жыл бұрын

TheAaron3dg EMG??!! Drop some Nordstrands with the Alnico magnets, and that would be killer!!!🤨

@robhogarth-jones7363

5 жыл бұрын

I dropped some EMG's in my five string Benton B-550, actives, the wireless ones. Did you replace the whole active system or just the pickups?

Nice review

it looks very similar to a g & l bass i owned it was awesome but heavy , sounds amazing

I wish someone would make a video on KZread modifying one of these. Better tuners, high mass bridge, new pickups and electronics. It'd be a pretty entertaining video to see someone do something with a low priced bass that isn't just a generic black bolt-on.

@tomrabbani

3 жыл бұрын

Not for bass, but I don't know if you've seen EytschPi42's video modifiying a Harley benton Les Paul copy with €2000 worth of upgrades? It's an interesting watch

@MetalxMasters

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomrabbani never saw that one. I really liked CSGuitars video where he modified an Epiphone Gothic V I believe. That thing sounded incredible right afterward. I have several projects of my own that were just shelved since I haven't got around to it. That was the idea if my channel name to just do a bunch of projects like that for videos but I'm a lazy dickhead. Haha.

@tomrabbani

3 жыл бұрын

@@MetalxMasters I'll have to check that one out! And tell me about it haha, I've been meaning to upload to my channel for YEARS! You should definitely make some videos on your projects though I'd love to check em out

Yes! So good! Have a Nice Day ;)

What do you think about using this bass in blues genre? I love the look of this bass and there is a 5-string version which I'd like to get. Is it a viable option or should I look for something else?

Like your t shirt, how about a review on Le Fay played through a Glockenklang

Rene is a lovely player, but that bass sounds as good as anything I have ever heard

Es hermoso el bajo.

hi, can you test the mb4 sb stingray model please ? thanks

I personally can't give a damn if HB instruments don't like this or like that or what not,if it sounds good to one's hear it's fine by me.I have a PB20 and it plays and feels just fine. It's great that you get the huge range of choices they provide at such great prices. Obviously with a more expensive instrument you get different treatment and better QC which lowers the odds of getting a bad one (and that happens with HB as much as other lower end brands). If you gig a HB and someone trips over it or you hit it on something and make a dent,or if it gets stolen ,at least you won't think how ridiculously expensive it was and not feel as bad about it.

Does anyone know how to wire this like a normal stingray with the inner and outer coils as on the 5 way switch? Any help would be appreciated

DAT TONE

Very cool, but I concur about that neck pickup. It is very close to the neck...however I feel all basses should be atleast 24 frets..so I'm torn

does anyone know the tune he is playing out with at end of video??

Tell me please, is it possible to get low action without buzzing? What pickups sounds in every of 5 position of the switch? Does the bass used just in active mode? I don't see active/passive switch. Does it work in a passive mode without battery?

@SenXu

3 жыл бұрын

I had the same question

Fingered or Pick us what I love and I'm indifferent to slap bass and one of the reasons I pick this one. I haven't gotten it yet and I had I known I would have used the link. I will speak up for you guys if given a survey.

holyyyyyy catssss that sounds perfect! did you make leftys???

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

I don't ;)

How close to Sterling sound can I get with this?

what’s underneath the pickguard? can you take it off or is it ugly?

I am in between this model and the JB-75 you tested in another video. I haven't played bass in about 10 years and are looking to get back into it. I am looking for something versatile, and I do tend to prefer a "big sound". My main concern with this one is that I have reasonably small hands. Thoughts?

@Guitar6ty

Жыл бұрын

Its no problem because the neck is a nice size.

Der Link in der Beschreibung ist falsch bzw man kommt dann auf die 5-Saiter Variante vom diesen Bass

HB fixed the only thing I hate about MM style basses, and thats the tuning peg layout (its a small gripe, but HB gets points for it)

@richardrichard5409

Жыл бұрын

It's done that way to stop 7th fret dead spots.

I'm going thru my bucket list & I turn 60 this month so it's time to learn Bass! Would this be a good bass to buy for a beginner ? Thanks Guys

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

Sure, why not. I’d prefer a Jazz Bass type of bass, but the MM84 will of course work too

@TheAudiostud

6 жыл бұрын

PB-20 what's your thoughts on such a bass ? Thank You

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

Either this or spend a bit more money and get one of the slightly better models

I had a real EB Music Man that I got rid of because it had too much treble & was more difficult to play than any other bass I had (numerous in my collection). I don’t hear the HB needing more treble, I think it’s just a matter of taste. That proves everyone has been getting ripped off by EB for decades, the HB sounds the same, anyone who says different must have a MM.

I'm about to nab a HB bass. I own a ton of 60s basses but I dont want to spend 4k+ on a Music man.

Hi! I am interested in buying this. What is the String spacing in the MM 84A and MM 85A? I need at least 19 mm in 4-string version.. Please reply.

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

the 4string is 19mm if I remember right, better check the Thomann page for more info

I LIKE BASS GUITARS.

@karioliskoko2215

6 жыл бұрын

Wellcome to the club

Didn't see it listed- What was the distorted tone at minute 3? Pedal? Amp?

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

that's just an overdrive from the stock plugins of Logic

@aaronkapper3952

6 жыл бұрын

thanks!

On par with the import Music Mans.

how many weight?

Agree with Gregor about the lack of treble which may be why doesn't seem to have the classic StingRay scooped, kind of nasally sound. But that could be the way René has it EQ'd. Looks nice, but I'd prefer one of the Sterling MM copies.

I wish they'd make more left handed basses :(

@sakusaaristo191

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! We all lefties just need to give them more feedback, send in some email.

Can you do a review of Harley Benton B-450 series bass?

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

here's one with the B-650 if that helps kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHVhxqixd9yukbg.html

@ZethKeeper

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, yeah, thanks much!

👍

Still haven't gotten my Bass LOL!

This may be a stupid question...but anybody know why does it have (or need) 24 frets?

@akoslenkovics3134

4 жыл бұрын

24 fret is not necessary. It is nice to have it if you play cords or some solos, but i thing most of the time it is there to make it a selling point. I don't think that i've ever played a song that needs a higher fret than the 15th.

@krakenturdz

2 жыл бұрын

Its a two octave neck, so the low E is the open string, the 'middle' E is at the 12th fret and high E at the 24th.. it gives extended range.. probably holds low tunings better than a 21 fret too.

For you this is a good bass for doing post punk dark wawe to get that punchy tone?

@richardrichard5409

Жыл бұрын

PB20

Should i buy this for my first bass?

@basstheworldofficial

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, that’s a decent starting point

is it only me or is the distance from the bridge to the end of the body (or strap button) strikingly big? almost seems ugly just because of that.

If the headstock matched the body and it had a black pickguard, it'd be perfect

@franciscoduarte832

5 жыл бұрын

There is actually a harley benton model with the things that you want

@pyotrilyichtchaikovsky3733

4 жыл бұрын

there is one exactly like it, with a matching headstock and a black pickguard, only problem, the pickups arent as good as these

I bought a musicman five years ago and I wonder if it was a bad move after all. I could buy five different Harley Benton basses with the same budget.

@richardrichard5409

3 жыл бұрын

This sounds nothing like my Stingray although I'm sure it's a decent enough bass.

The bridge is placed in a strange way, too close to the driver, normally in the MM they are at the very end of the board.

Stingrays are the best

Yeah, but what does Lars think? He's the EBMM guy.

I think the neck is a super good idea for this bass, 2 octave and Canadian maple.....eh.

And make a blind test with a Musicman double HH who cost +/- 2000usd against this Harley and make sure that 95% of people can`t guess who is who.

@marike1100

6 жыл бұрын

This bass doesn't sound like a StingRay HH to me. It's missing the raspy top end.

@lorenzoluciani7391

6 жыл бұрын

G yeah because you see it. Try a blind test and you will notice what are tou saying is completely bullshit. 99% of people does not hear any difference in sound quality, between this and HH musicman. Obviously there are a lot of differences, in output level of pickups in quality of woods and mechanichs, but people just don't want to admit that cheap good models sounds almost good as the most expensive one. Like a cheap jazz squire and an american jazz bass. Put a pair of good pick ups on a squire and you will not notice any difference in SOUND!

@yairgrenade

6 жыл бұрын

This isn't even similar. I never owned a Musicman bass or anything, but the tones are clearly world apart. Having similar pickups has nothing to do with it. The pickups are also closer to the neck, which pretty much explains why it doesn't sound like a Stingray.

@lorenzoluciani7391

6 жыл бұрын

Yair Haimi musicman sounds better, but you would not recognize difference in music mix.

@yairgrenade

6 жыл бұрын

Lorenzo Luciani Maybe :/

Does it stay tuned in drop c?

no active passive switching? shame considering they love putting those in every active basses they have

very nice bass Gregor but you can't use a pick on bass hahaha just joking '

That bridge looks too far up the body. Am I seeing that wrong?

@basstheworldofficial

3 жыл бұрын

Otherwise the neck would have to go deeper into the body and there would have been no space for the neck pickup or the extended upper range on the fretboard

Not quite the Stingray sound, but a damn good sounding instrument. Although I feel like if you want to build a stingray-like instrument, you gotta keep slap players in mind. Having that neck pickup that close to the bridge is just kind of dumb to me. Slap players have little to no use for 24 frets and I'd even argue that they should've had the bridge lower on the body to make more room for the pickups. Again great bass but I personally wouldn't go for it

maybe the feeling is great but i had a MM stingray and this sounds a little weak to me....great bass tho

@kirkbolas4985

4 жыл бұрын

Lucait So, change our the pickups. The cost of a pair of pickups plus the cost of the HB Bass is still a hell of a lot less than a Stingray. For a bassist on a budget there’s no better way to go.

just get a Sterling by Music Man SUB RAY 4 if you wanna get close to tge MM sound,this HB only looks like MM,but sound is not even close.

3:24 when the drug arrive

Like sound but I’ve heard slapping problems with the slap. Need a slap bass

Sounds like a high quality p bass.

Don't care for the pick guard

The Body, electronics, Pickups and bridge. looks just like a MusicMan Copy? Booooooooo!

@jumpingman8160

6 жыл бұрын

isn't that great? You can have an affordable copy nowadays instead of selling your own children + a kidney. Great times we live in.

does anyone still play bass with their fingers anymore?

@AlexStromski

4 жыл бұрын

He played with fingers in the video dude😂 What fun is a one trick pony. Grow up.

@jamiebradbury2331

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlexStromski it was a joke Bell end

@AlexStromski

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamiebradbury2331 Ohhh sorry duder. Its just there are so many people that actually think that. its is unbelievable.

Sounds like a dying elephant

nice bass but cut the odd beard

@reneflachsenhaar2968

6 жыл бұрын

beard the world!!!!

@freakbass

6 жыл бұрын

hair the heads!

@firefishable

6 жыл бұрын

Hell no! This beard rocks....

@stoicom

6 жыл бұрын

is he muslim?

@reneflachsenhaar2968

6 жыл бұрын

nope, i am just a guy with a beard. all the best, rene.

Running a shitty bass through a REALLY good amplifier and pedals that are twice as expensive as the bass makes anything sound good.

@basstheworldofficial

6 жыл бұрын

we didn't use any pedals or amps here, just some post production magic

@Crodon

6 жыл бұрын

BassTheWorld.com This comes down to the same thing.

@qaze90

6 жыл бұрын

Player's hands are most of the sound, you can give Rene a brick and he would groove on that all day.

@garywillacey9979

6 жыл бұрын

whether it's a shifty bass or not, if it sounds & plays well what's the problem? Someone who doesn't have the funds to pay for an expensive, over priced bass may benefit from this bass. You seem very shallow & a gear snob.

@Crodon

6 жыл бұрын

Did I say it was a problem? I'm merely stating a fact.

This bass is a insult for me

not every "the" is pronounced "die"......plz.... lovely video and testing nonetheless

@MrColdJin

6 жыл бұрын

As non-native English speakers we all do the best we can, there's no need to chastise Gregor like this.

@Hammer2324

6 жыл бұрын

Eugenio Palombella that was not my intention. In.fact i think his english is kind of good except the "the". Thats all. I also stated that all together I liked the video and not only the playling, so no offence meant

@BrickTop70

6 жыл бұрын

Hammer2324 Der, Die, Das. The second one is the closest to the English "The". Just put up with it, and play your bass

this, as most cheap basses has a really disturbing boing in the tail of the sound which makes it really unpleasant ... To my ears it is an awful sounding baass