Been trying to understand the difference forever. Thanks for providing a great answer!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You bet!

You are the man in this space for this subject thanks 🙏

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thx for the great explanation!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Finally someone answered my question !

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Always great contents.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hi Art. I'm a new subscriber and I'm loving the content, thank you. I wonder if I could get your take on a calibration strategy for my workflow. I'm an architectural photographer working with 60MP captures in the Adobe RGB color space. I use Light Room as my RAW editor and of course Photoshop. I generally export sRGB files to clients. My computer is an iMac Pro1,1 with builtin 5k Retina display. As a secondary display, I'm using the BenQ SW271. I calibrate the iMac and BenQ monthly using the i1profiler pro and of course the palette master utility when calibrating the BenQ. My question is, should I just use the Adobe RGB profile on the iMac since my color work is always on the BenQ set to Adobe RGB color space? Thank you again for all the great information. I've learned a lot.

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

No you should not do that on the Mac. You should use the icc profile created for the Mac display using i1profile on the Mac. This will be best suited for the Mac since Mac is a fix software calibrated display, meaning you can't change color gamut, assigning it to Adobe RGB reference will only give you false color. These two video will help explains it further. However, if you have any more follow up question just start a new comment thread this way I'll see it kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHl7tMh_lK-_drA.html & kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKyIsLWkqMq8gJs.html

Thanks! You're such a great help. kenn

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

Any time!

Hi Art, thanks a lot for your work, today I checked a lot of your video, they are all informative! And now my question is: 1. You mentioned that you use the panel native color space among all the BenQ monitor you have, but if you are going to show the finished photo or the video on the other display such as an SRGB display, will you see a different color? Correct me if I am wrong, if you save a photo in Adobe RGB color space in photoshop, it will look strange on the SRGB screen. Or it doesn't matter as the video/photo editing software will take control of the color space inside the software? 2. I may not have the second question if I understand the first question, but I will ask first. As for now, I am thinking about using a standard color space for all my video and photo work, I mostly work on video but sometimes on photos too, of course also web browsing. In this case, shall I keep all my stuff to SRGB or REC 709, and I don't see so much difference between these two, will they influence the final result? Best, Chenny

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, here are the answer. 1. Yes and no, if you use LR then yes there will be color differences, going from larger color space to less. If you use Photoshop then you can set the working color space to sRGB which then Adobe Color Engine (ACE) which is the Color Management Module (CMM) will then do the color translation for you to which you would be seeing an equivalent of sRGB even on a Panel Native Calibration. For video the colors space is REC 709 and most program manages color in that space anyway, so you'll be good. And if you save photo in Adobe RGB in PS and open it on an sRGB display, depending on the program, if it color aware it will look ok, not the best but ok, if the program is not color aware then it will not look good. The goal is to calibrate your display to the largest color space possible so that you can see the most color. The philosophy of color management should never be to worry about other displays, because those are variables that you have no control over, i.e. clients phones or computer displays. 2. sRGB and REC 709 are small color space and they are practically the same. You can stick with one or the other and you should be ok. Video calibration does have a slight different gamma compared to photo, REC 709 gamma is at 2.4 and not 2.2 used in photo and some even calibrate their video display to BT1886 for video gamma.

Hi thanks for these videos. I have a question. I just got a hardware calibrated display. Just wanted to know after the hardware calibration on a macpro do I go to display preferences and choose PV 270 or the icc profile that is there. Thanks.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

If you have the PV you would choose the profile that was generate from Palette Master. Whichever name you gave it at the conclusion of the calibration.

Hi Art. Thanks so much for the video. The only thing I’m not understanding is how to tell the difference between a monitor that is able to do hardware calibrations and one that is not?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Look at the model number and the spec. You can't tell them apart otherwise. There are some indicators here and there but they not necessary consistence across all of the hardware calibrated display models.

Art, I just ordered the M1 Max 14". My question is when I use Davinci Resolve to edit/grade my raw videos on the new MacBook, what would my project settings be if I'm exporting to Rec709? For my current workflow my monitor is calibrated to rec709 so what I see is what I will get. However with the MacBook things will be different since the monitor is calibrated in P3 which is not what I will be exporting and Resolve doesn't apply any conversion..

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no, wait for my upcoming video on this.

Can you make a video on color management from Lightroom/capture one/ photoshop/ to the browser? I have a wide gamut monitor and chrome makes my srgb photo exports look very warm and over saturated

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Are you on Mac or PC?

Another great calibration video. I saw in one of your other video comments that you set the monitor colour space to Native rather than sRGB or Adobe RGB. I have a few raw files but mainly shoot in jpeg with sRGB set on the camera. For the SW240; should I set monitor Native and stay with camera sRGB or should I now be thinking of changing over to camera Adobe RGB to benefit more with this monitor, and would this cause any problems with home printing. I know this is a big subject, any simple suggestions ?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And you can leave your camera to sRGB or set it to Adobe RGB, it really does not matter much because it is not a color gamut limitation, it is just a color gamut tagged. Your camera can capture more gamut than Adobe RGB and if you shoot RAW all that information is there regardless of the tagged color space. The best thing to do would be to test this out and confirm that it won't be an issue for your specific workflow, but I don't really see a reason why this should cause any issues. I have a testing on this coming out at some point in the future too.

@leonflack5673

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank you Art; I get confused between color spaces and color gamuts on monitors and cameras. I appreciate the difference in color sizes of each type but am not that good with actual settings that I need to use for each one or if they greatly impact each other, so am very pleased to have your advice. You didn't comment on the Native setting for the SW240 monitor, does this mean that it is still the best / recommended option to use when setting up the calibration with PME.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Panel Native for SW240 is still the better one to use as well. This video at 9:12 will explain why kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6qpj9WglMfUkZM.html The link will take you there to the time mark. :)

@leonflack5673

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight thank you once again, I really appreciate your knowledge and support.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Sure thing!

Hi Art! Thanks for your videos they are amazing. I would appreciate if you could help me with this question. When I open my raw file photos in Mac OS preview or photo viewer it does a fantastic job at displaying the raw photos with beautiful contrast, saturation, and exposure. When I open this same photo in adobe camera raw, the colors look dull and flat. I know raw files are suppose to show like that and I know that profiles under calibration such as Standard, Vivid, Lanscape are there to provide a better starting point but none of them seem to achieve what Mac OS photo viewer does. What is Mac OS Photo viewer doing to the photos, is it adding a particular color profile or color management? Is there a way for me to use this profile in adobe camera raw in so that the starting point of my photos is similar to what I get in Mac OS photo viewer?Thanks a lot for your time.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and great questions. So starting off, if you shoot RAW the picture profile that you are mentioning does not matter at all. They may be used to generate a JPEG preview when you view the RAW file that you just shot on the camera but that is about it. When you shoot, does your camera preview the images on the screen after? If it does what you might be seeing could be this JPEG that Mac OS is pulling from. Sadly this is a processed JPEG and settings cannot be applied to RAW. Different program have different RAW interpolation or de-mosaic algorithm. Matching between 2 programs from 2 different manufacture is extremely difficult. So Adobe has their De-Mosaic which is Adobe Camera RAW. While Apple uses Core Image which is their own De-Mosaic approach and this will explain the differences between the two. I think it is very likely that to save computing resources, Apple is using the embedded RAW as the preview and leaving it there as the preview and thumbnail that until the user go in to photo and edit the image. Additionally, when editing the images Apple usually will through in their own sauce to start you out with. So a few things could be happening here. If you shoot for revenue, I would recommend sticking with Adobe ACR because it is an overall better algorithm with more frequent updates with new camera support compared to Apple.

@genesislopez4064

3 жыл бұрын

ArtIsRight Thanks a Lot Art for your quick and thorough response! You are seriously an expert in this field, I thought you were not even going to understand what I was asking as I was probably using the wrong terms to refer to things that I don’t even understand. I suppose I will stick to ACR. I just wished my cc ACR had a raw de-mosaic approach that provided me with such a fine starting point, especially for someone like me, who doesn’t master curves nor color adjustments. Again, thanks a lot for your response and your superb videos!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. You have inspirer me to do Lightroom/ACR image editing videos. I figured there are so many resources out there already. But based on your comment I think that may room for more :) Also with ACR you can try to use the Auto setting to start you off but from my testing the result is not that good.

It's amazing how clearly you manage to explain things that are really tough to explain

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

So... if I hardware calibrate an SW monitor for the sRGB color space, will there be a significant difference in colors to a software calibrated (sRGB as well) PD monitor?

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

they should come really close visually.

Hi. Great content and very nice job. I would like to ask you if you have any ideas for if benq would be release 34 inch ultrawide monitor in sw line and when the 34 ultrawide monitor in pd line would be out?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and to be honest, I have no idea.

@johnbatilas8468

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight you don't know for both monitors?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

For the SW I don't know. For the PD I know the release date has been pushed back further but it should be coming out in the next few months. When it is out, I'll have one into do a review on it.

@johnbatilas8468

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight I also want to ask if the stand in pd line is all metal or only the base?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

The entire assembly is all metal. This is similar in the SW line where the core is all metal with plastic covering.

Thanks for the wonderful video. I want to know this information in greater depth. Can you recommend on-line articles or books? Thanks.

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

What specially do you want to know. There's not really one place that you can look this up. This would be the person that I would look at www.moderncolorworkflow.com/dan-margulis

@trevorpsy

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Actually, I want to know about it all, and need a place to start. Your link is perfect. Thanks.

On a software calibrated display what is maintaining the calibration over sessions and startups? Do they require a special software to run on startup to translate the RGB signals, or is that done by the operating system?

@ArtIsRight

6 ай бұрын

OS ICC

Another great video Art. I really prefer the hardware calibration. I like how you visualized it. I noticed that in color gradients with software calibration. Shows more remapping and some harder pixelation

@rickysargulesh1053

3 жыл бұрын

i have another question now. if i hardware calibrate it always sets up an icc profile. should i disable it or is it there for a reason? it happens on my nec and eizo but i thought the point of hardware calibration was to not have an icc profile? also as i wrote before my laptop display covers the adobe rgb space perfectly but it has some very saturated colors while my eizo looks a little duller at 99% coverage. shouldn’t they be very close in saturation or is the 100% coverage of my other display actually worse since it is software calibrated? you said before that super vibrant colors are not necessarily more accurate. so which display can I rather trust for accurate life like colors?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and that is one of the most common misconception about Hardware Calibrated Display (HCD). Every OS requires an icc profile for color output regardless of calibration or not. This is a bit clearer on a non calibrated Mac where the OS would automatically assign an icc profile to any of the displays that you have hooked up. Windows does not really do this because the OS is not color managed. This icc profile contains the color gamut information that the video card is outputting to the display, sans the color remapping in hardware calibration. So I recommend leaving this. If you have an Eizo trust the Eizo especially if you have calibrated it. What laptop do you have? Model and make so that I can look it up. I know some Dell have prime color software which over saturate the display, others are OLED, which factory turned is way over saturated. This all depends so get me the model number and I can answer this further.

@rickysargulesh1053

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ArtIsRight Hey Art its 4K Display on my P52. This exact display here: www.panelook.com/B156ZAN03.2_AUO_15.6_LCM_overview_38289.html I don't think it can hold up to the Dell displays and or the total price I doubt this display can match the Eizo CS2731

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would not trust the display.

@rickysargulesh1053

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Ok I won't then😁Although the Delta-Es were mostly below 1 on it. I checkd the ICC profiles from both monitors here www.iccview.de/ and the laptop encompassed a larger space than the Eizo. 1. Delta-E's are below 1 except for 1 patch. 2. ICC Profile covers almost the full Adobe RGB space and more than the Eizo. But the Eizo has lower Delta-E's overall. How can I be sure to trust a display if measurments and ICC profile look good?

What if you display srgb content like your camera's jpgs on a high gamut screen? Doesnt it gonna be oversaturated? And if so, what to do about that?

@ArtIsRight

3 ай бұрын

nope, because of this kzread.info/dash/bejne/eall0NN-lpvcqso.html

Art, thanks for the great video. Can I run a dual monitor set-up with one monitor using software calibration (LG ultrawide) and the other (Ben Q SW270c) using hardware calibration unaffected by the card/software calibration? My card is an NVidea 2070 Super.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You'll be fine. The software calibration would drive your LG and HW Calibration would drive the SW. The LUT variation between profile is not a super big deal. And it is not really needed on the SW since it is already stored in the HW calibration.

@avcreations2494

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank you. So does the video card automatically sense that the 270C is hardware based know not to try to adjust the color or is there a setting I need to adjust? Never worked with a hardware based monitor LUT so still a little confused.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

The profile for each of the respective display will make sure that the correct LUT is loaded as appropriate. So what you want to do is choose the correct corresponding icc for each of the displays. connected. No other setting that you can do beside this.

@avcreations2494

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank you!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Great stuff again. Kindly help me out on this one. Which one is the best for colour grading in davinci. SW 240 or PD 2700Q

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

SW because of the hardware calibration. This is especially helpful since based on my understanding Da Vinci does not color manage having a hardware calibrated display with build-in adjustable LUT, the SW, is really useful.

@antonybrittozz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight thanks a lut

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Sure :)

Oh...iv learned tons of useful information from this video, thanks for that, great job. Im confused now, becouse i planed to buy pd2700u in few days, but dont know now, or wait and save money for sw270...

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad this was a great educational experience. Both are great displays, it would really come down to what you need and what you are looking for. SW is BenQ top display line up, but PD are good too especially if you can forego hardware calibration

@kristofeight9668

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight i need it as a second monitor plug into my lapot for video editing, i know PD model has a very accurate colors so i decided buy and use it as refference for color grading, u think pd will be enough especially im a beginner ?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

I think that it is a fantastic start and offer amazing value.

Thanks for sharing! What affordable hardware probe would you reccomend?? And using what software ?? Thanks again

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

i1Display Pro or Pro Plus. If you are using BenQ SW then Palette Master Element, for all other BenQ and other software i1Profiler.

@gaboguerra950

3 жыл бұрын

ArtIsRight from X-Rite ?!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

yes, are you in the US?

@gaboguerra950

3 жыл бұрын

ArtIsRight nope. In Spain

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Thanks Art. What is not entirely clear to me is how to combine soft and hard calibration. So if I want to calibrate my macbook using soft cailbration, then I connect it to the hardware external panel. Will this not mess up color because you are thinkering with the output The laptop sends to the monitor. Then again if you put the hardware calibrated icc profile on the macbook, the colors may look odd on the macbook as it necessarily needs to interpret colors it cannot display. How to go around that?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

This is how you would do it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHl7tMh_lK-_drA.html Calibrate the display individually, You can’t combined the result from one to the other. Don’t over think color management. Also all Apple build-in and external displays are software calibration only.

@jph364

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight great thanks for the speedy reply

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, I hope I was able to clarify that for you :)

The case: I started printing at home with an SC-P800 that a friend gave me from her deceased father. The results were… well, frustrating 😂 After a lot of back and forward, quite much paper and in spent and a lot of research, I realized that I needed a professional photography monitor. I found a SW2700PT second hand at a great price. It came home. The differences weight and feeling were great, but the first iteration with it… well, disappointing 😅 Then luckily I found your channel, became absolutely obsessed, and in less than 10 videos you solved all my questions, plus hundreds of questions I did not have. I bought a Calibrite display pro (as my Color Munki is not working with Palette master), I did a calibration and the results were… well, disappointing 🤣 the validation did not pass and the colors were not looking right at all. At that point I thought “where can I go for help? Art is right !!!” I watched your video about validation not passing , I changed the HDMI to DP cable. Then I remember another video of yours talking about the temperature of the light, I waited until the night and used only a video light with big soft box at 6500k as ambient light. Did the calibration, the validation passed, and now the colors and contrasts look GREAT 🤩 You sharing your knowledge in such clever and easy way has saved me uncountable time wondering around and money. I feel really, really grateful. Thank you very much 🙏🏽💚

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Hello and thanks for this. I own a Acer ConceptD CM3271K UHD 27" display and i1Display Plus colorimeter. If I use the Acer Color Calibrator software the process is very quick (less than 1 minute) but also very limited. If I use that X-Rite ccProfiler the process takes 5-10minutes and gives me possibilities to change more parameters. Which are the benefits or downsides of using the 2 different softwares for calibration? Is the one performed with ccProfiler "software calibration" while the one performed with Acer Calibrator "hardware calibration"?

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

Based on what I see, it seems the display that you have is software calibration only so you are better off using the Calibrite ccProfiler software. You want to choose the color mode that you want to use before calibration. So far from looking the display up, I don't think the display is hardware calibration capable or has an adjustable 3D LUT.

@marcorossi2182

2 жыл бұрын

@ArtIsRight where did you find this information? I thought it was hardware calibrated. I have the possibility to use the "Acer Calibrator" software that I thought was related to hardware calibration. Isn't like that? @@ArtIsRight in the manual it is not really clear. I have found these info: Calibration can define of: (sRGB, AdobeRGB, Rec.709, EBU, DCI-P3, SMPTE-C). Calibration 1 default is (AdobeRGB), Calibration 2 default is (Rec.709). Advanced Measure Mode gives you the flexibility to completely customize your monitor‘s colour settings. Make use of a colour meter and manually calibrate the brightness, colour temperature, gamma, and also the colour space you want to use from the three available modes (sRGB, Adobe RGB, and DCI-P3).

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

This is all based on the information that I can gathered from their website or the lack there of. I can look into their software a bit further and see what I can find. Even if you can fine tuned the adjustment it still does not necessary mean the display is hardware calibration. Let me find out more. But again they treat this display like a software calibrated one.

@marcorossi2182

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight amazing! Thanks for great support

@marcorossi2182

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight What I could find is that hardware calibration is possible only for AdobeRGB, sRGB and DCI-P3. Anyway the process is very quick (no more than 1-2 minutes) and possibilities are limited regarding brightness, gamma etc. Will you in this case suggest to go for the hardware calibration instead of software calibration with ccProfiler?

Hi Art, this was helpful. I'm an avid hobbyist, thinking of upgrading from an sRGB Dell ultrasharp to a Benq SW270C. My calibrator is a colormunki display, which as far as I understand is not compatible with the Pallete Master software. Am I wasting my money upgrading to the Benq if I don't also upgrade my colorimeter?

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

I would not describe it as a waste. With BenQ you get the hardware calibration and 99% Adobe RGB Color gamut coverage that is a plus compared to the Dell sRGB, and better uniformity as well amongst other things.

@joshs7642

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight ok thanks for the response. So my understanding is without hardware calibration I won't reap all the benefits of the upgrade, but I will still have access to a significantly wider color gamut compared to an sRGB panel?

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

You'll get the wider color gamut from the SW and you can still software calibrate it and get good results. My advise to sell the old device that you have on eBay or used market and get a new calibrator Calibrite Color Checker Display Pro. and you'll be set for a long time. Calibrite - X-Rite devices have longer life span than the comparatively cheaper Spyder Devices.

@joshs7642

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight good info, thanks. I'll probably buy the monitor tomorrow.

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

:D

Thank you for the information. I bought a spyderx elite and calibrated my monitor. After the calibration the contrast on Photoshop screen changed and it started to show the images with less contrast. For example after saving a photo as srgb and seeing it on windows photo view app is fine but when i open the same photo on photoshop screen the same photo seems to have less contrast. Now I am planning to get a hardware calibration monitor but i dont know if it will fix the problem... My question is what do you think might cause this problem? Is there any way to fix it? or should i get a hardware calibration monitor? Thanks again!!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are seeing a mild version of this issue kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zqt8m66kYsacnLQ.html And calibration will always bring contrast down especially if you set a brightness other than max.

@recepbuyukguzel8203

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank you really so much!!! I will download one of those viewers and try. *edited : i tried faststone and set the settings as you showed. it shows the colors and blacks very close to photoshop now! Thank you. In that video you said sometimes we need to relaunch the program to see the color profile in effect. Is it the same for photoshop too? When i calibrate my monitor while the photoshop is running the colors are the same as windows viewer but when i close and relaunch the photoshop it shows less contrast. so i guess i should trust the contrast on photoshop right?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

I would just relaunch the program so that it is using the correct profile.

@recepbuyukguzel8203

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for your help!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

:)

When we go deep down in windows display settings there it has colour calibration setting and display icc profile. Does it have any use with settings up factory icc profile in SW display with windows 10 display settings or should we just leave it to default what ever it is or do any changes before hardware calibration ? Please help clear this doubt. My PC specs BenQ SW2700PT (DP Port in use) i3 8100 8th gen Asus Strix GTX 1060 6gb 16 GB ram 3000mhz

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

No need to change anything, I would just start calibrating. Because you have an Nvidia video card, use the Studio driver but otherwise you are good.

@SachinBalan_PB

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight yes Nvidia Studio Drivers are Installed.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome.

How long does it take for colors to eventually drift on a display before you need to calibrate the monitor again?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

On these LCD rarely and so slight over time. What you can do is try a calibration 2 weeks in and see if you can spot any differences, if not then you can spread out the next calibration further to 3 or 4 weeks, calibrate and compare. Monthly would be a good mediant time frame, but sometime I go longer than that.

so when are you going to update the software for my pd2075q because if it isn't soon I'm returning it. I was told by Benq that it was hardware calibrated...

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

All PD display line are software calibration only. You received the incorrect information.

I've just purchased a PD3200Q which is Factory Calibrated. Do I still need to software calibrate this monitor using my Datacolor Spyder and if so which colour profile do you select on the monitor before calibration?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Factory calibration is with reference signal output, none of our computer is reference signal output, So yes for the best result you should still custom calibrate. As for color gamut, that would depend on what you are doing. The most generic one that you can use is Display P3. Here's a guide for Mac kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmeV0JmiqcvckrQ.html and PC kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIaH2cZtqJyfkdI.html

@tecnos-uk

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight If I was to develop graphics for the web, would I set the picture mode to sRGB on the monitor and then software calibrate the monitor?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@tecnos-uk

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Excellent, Thanks for the info, very much appreciated!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

:)

I am sorry to bust in on your video regarding a totally different topic and question, that might not even be related to BenQ displays but an overall 4K monitor issue. I have the PD3200U and I am really pleased with it. It is my first 4k display and the issue I am having is, with the added real estate, I have to role my track ball ALOT, in order for me to go from where I am on the screen, to where I want to go on the screen. My max speed in mac OSX mouse setings, has be reach but I still really need to role the track ball alot/move the mouse. If you know of any work arounds I would love to hear them :-)

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

There are some utility software that runs on top of the OS and some of them can change the behavior of the mouse and speed it up further. I used one a long time ago but I don't remember what it is called. If come up with the name I'll post it here. I would google or forum search.

@thomaswindfeld728

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Ohh. Ok! Grat info. I cant imagine I would be the only one with this issue. Ill search for it to :-) Thanx!

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@Hardik_P

Жыл бұрын

Adding my 2 cent, Get high DPI mounse like Logitech Master MX2/Mx3, best productivity mouse ever. It will solve your problem ( i do use a normal mouse & MX2, side by side with same settings in OS , i can see the the difference

So, if you are to have a hardware calibrated display such as SW line, best way to do the business is to calibrate your display to your most used RGB primary to your display chips and choose the corresponding Primary RGB ICC profiles for your monitor (not for your OS) to output the most accurate signal? OR Calibrate your display to the widest RGB primary (Panel Native) and choose the same ICC for your display from your laptop (not the ICC for your laptop from your OS) and switch between different color modes to get the best results with least efforts with the caveat that the different colors modes that you will select from your display (through hotkey puck or buttons) will be only for reference since your display is not calibrated for those profiles but only for one. Another question, it doesn't really matter which profile you choose for your laptop screen/OS as it wouldn't affect the signal going to your display since your display is calibrated and has its own profile?

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

So the best way to calibrate SW is this kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqaetNGClZOTndI.html Then regarding icc do this kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZujlNJwmqmZnpM.html

What about Dell monitors? I have the UP3017 and it has hardware calibration. I use iProfiler software and select Automatic Display Calibration - works great. Dell was in the hardware calibration market before BenQ at a much better price then EIZO. As an aside, it should be noted, EIZO are super expensive because it's not just about colour but the critical panel uniformity. Cheaper brands aren't as good here.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Dell are fine but you have to use their Prime Color software to get true hardware calibration. i1Profiler Automatic Display Calibration (ADC) just only do the color and brightness adjustment on the display, it does not access or adjust the build in LUT on the display, argo a software calibration only. About Eizo, uniformity is true, but you are paying 2 or 3 times more for a 5 to 10% at best marginal improvement, if the work that you do is that critical or you work for a big corporation then yes but 95% of the photographers in the world either just flat-out can't afford them or can't justify for them. In addition, the later BenQ SW270C and SW321C have much better improved uniformity bringing it even closer hardware wise to Eizo territory. Again for the most critical with deep pocket, it is probably best for them to still consider an Eizo instead. Like I always said, each to their own :)

@DavidDufourq

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply Art. Wasn't aware about that with my monitor. Dell has recently released a true hardware calibrated monitor with built in colormeter. Looks nice also.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I’ve seen a demo of that one. It is nice

I have around 500$ to spend on a monitor, I don't game at all, I do visual effects mostly, and some video editing. I would prefer a 32" 4k, with great contrast and blacks, Can I find such a monitor in the BenQ line that's not necessarily SW or PD? Thanks Art

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly sure they have something for you. I would check out their line up and also to save money I would look at their refurb/outlet site as well.

@ElGhoulSoufedj

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Thank you Art

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Hello, 1.) Since I have a hardware calibrated display, I can keep that ICC profile on my display which is great. Does that mean that I should delete my software ICC profile which is activated and kept on Win10 in color management? 2.) Before calibrating my display, should I disable software ICC profile? Thank you a lot for this quality content, you explain it easily and simple.

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

1. No you need both kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZujlNJwmqmZnpM.html 2. No kzread.info/dash/bejne/qq2rxJOYptO3mKw.html

@Vadrigar1

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Ohh thanks a lot, again you gave me a quick and simple answer. That's what I like, subscribed.

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

:)

@Vadrigar1

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight Ohh I am confused now, because I hardware calibrated my monitor and it looks awesome now (I did that in a software that is native to my ASUS monitor, I cannot create ICC software calibrated profile in that software). But when I create an ICC profile in another software (not native to my monitor, it's called Datacolor) I get a slightly different settings, the issue is that it just complicates stuff. Because now I have to set that ICC profile in Adobe Photoshop, some 3D sofwares I use dont accept ICC profiles, windows photo viewer puts washed out colors in my images. Is it okay to just leave it hardware calibrated as it is now, and not complicate it with software calibration? Yes I can use my Nvidia driver to force that ICC profile on my windows desktop and everything (since win10 cannot apply ICC profile on desktop by itself), but why bother if hardware calibration is the best calibration out there.

how do I know if my monitor is hardware or software calibrated LG 34wk95c-w and it is a curve monitor what about light bleed while calibrating on the meter

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

That one is software calibration only. My other video outline this already if you look at any calibration device, there's some type of lining where the calibrator meets the display blocking any light interference.

@charlesgagnon9669

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight ok thanks where do you get the lining?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

It is on the calibrator itself, you'll see some type of black material, foam, felt or otherwise on the end that you put on the display.

does it matter as benq doesnt support my m1 with the software for pd

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

So for the PD you would use the software that comes with your calibrator for calibration, so if you have an X-Rite it is either the i1Profile software for the pro devices, or i1Studio, if you have Spyder device you would have to use the spyder software. Most of these software not support M1 for calibration.

Hi Art, Good content. I just got my sw2700pt coming from a dellu2414h. I calibrate my dell with my spyder 5. Afte calibrating my sw following your videos, using display port to usbc on my macbook pro, verfication is passed. But I get a slight orange/warm/green cast compared to my spyder calibrated dell. whites look far Can i run a spyder software calibration on top of my PME hardware calibration for my benq

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

You can but what you are seeing on the SW2700PT is probably more correct than what you are seeing on the calibrated Dell. The panel quality and color tech inside the SW2700PT is much better. I would encourage you to give it sometime and adjust to the SW2700PT. Many when they first get a hardware calibrated display, they think the color is off once they calibrated, but it is really what you are used to and that may not be the most accurate :)

Actually Dell has been making hardware calibrated displays since 2013. Yes, they all need Dell's DUCCS software, but it is strictly based on X-rite i1Profiler source, so it is very similar in actual usage and there are versions for PC as well for Mac platform and fortunately it cooperates with mainstream calibration devices on the market. Recently LG also joined pack and some of displays from their Ultrafine line have also hardware calibration possibility at relatively low price.

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but it is not Mac compatible. The only one that makes bilingual hardware calibration is Eizo and NEC.

@SylwesterPietrzyk

2 жыл бұрын

DUCCS is in MacOS version but non-M1 native unfortunately - I use it myself on Intel MBPro, as I said before - it is just a fork of i1Profiler. But I can see that they have no native MacOS calibration software for their recent PremierColor line which is shame (I use older 2016' UP2516D model). Contrary to this LG comes with frequently updated and now M1 native set of MacOS software - screen control, dula controller (to use one set of mouse and keyboard between two computers) and mentioned hardware calibration, which works with quite a number of colorimeters.

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know, there are a variety of reason why these other companies don't rise to the top in these market segment. To really make this works you have to play in large market with large volume and market penetration. I mean Acer makes hardware calibrated displays as well, but we hardly see their products. Asus also play the game but not well and focus enough. Viewsonic is in this pot as well but tend to play at the lower end, entry level. The issue with most of these company is that they are so big, this ends up as a segment to what they do, efforts is there but care may not be. Since this is just a small sliver of a much larger pie.

SO, is PD series Software Calibrated Display?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is and has always been :)

Can hardware calibrated displays show LAB color space.

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

in a sense yes, but a small percentage of it. LAB color is a cube, really large.

@sriharivaila7276

Жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight I've heard that LAB is used as conversion medium because it is device independent. am I right.

I say there is no difference maybe 1 may last slightly longer but you will still have to redo a hardware calibration after 6 month just to check it sure the ccprofiler is sort of a filter and will probably last a for a month or so

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

ok... either of them, one should calibrate their displays every 2 to 4 weeks. Not 6 months, all display drift slightly over time and they will compound. As far as one lasting longer, they last about the same. In the particular video what you get with BenQ SW hardware calibrated display is 99% Adobe RGB coverage, which is now hard to come by in software calibrated display.

I wish there are timestamps so if I want to watch again I could just go directly to the topic that I want to review again

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

Done!

Thio joe

@ArtIsRight

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏼

Are you talking to somebody else?

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

Good question 🤔

@e.colemantlpss6406

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtIsRight was in reference to you looking into a different camera. Fine using different camera angles but you need to look into the one being shown to the viewer otherwise it feels your are not engaged with the viewer.

@ArtIsRight

3 жыл бұрын

I think that is where yours and mine opinions differs but I do appreciate your feed back and I'll give that some thought.

You take too long to get to the point.

@ArtIsRight

Жыл бұрын

you're welcome!