Hardware Store Vacuum Table - HOW TO make your own

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Large vacuum formers are super awesome, but can't just be purchased like other equipment. Bill teaches you how to make your very own large vacuum former using materials from the hardware store!
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Materials - Vacuum Former:
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4 Corner L Brackets (x2) - $5 - Amazon
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6’ Long 1/8” Thick x 1-1/4” Aluminum Angle Bar (x3) - $80 - Amazon
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I only found 4’ long pieces on Amazon, you will need to buy 4 to get the total length you need. Also I recommend making your frame a little smaller than 24” square to save on aluminum. Cut the raw material into 2’ segments, then cut the miters on the ends. Assemble the frame, then build your platen to fit inside the frame.
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8-32 Nuts - $8 - Amazon
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Sash Locks (x4) - $12 - Amazon
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Thin Steel Plate - $10 - Amazon
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Shop Vac - $120 - Amazon
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Metal Mesh - $10 - Amazon
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Striped Duct Tape - $5 - Amazon
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30” Continuous Hinge (x4) - $35 - Amazon
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Aluminum Tape - $10 - Amazon
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Aluminum Foil - $10 - Amazon
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Wood - Locally Sourced
1/2” 2’x4’ Plywood (x2) - $40
3/4” 2’x4’ MDF - $15
1/4” 2’ x 4’ MDF (x4) - $30
Total: $660
Tools:
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Table Saw - Amazon
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Power Drill - Amazon
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Drill Bits - Amazon
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Extension Cords - Amazon
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Thermometer - Amazon
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Circular Saw - Amazon
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Miter Box - Amazon
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  • @punishedprops
    @punishedprops5 жыл бұрын

    Check out our website to see all the materials used and more build photos: punishedprops.com/2018/10/01/large-vacuumformer/

  • @Krisswords

    @Krisswords

    5 жыл бұрын

    Call it "The Warm Sucker"

  • @SerjTankianLover1

    @SerjTankianLover1

    5 жыл бұрын

    where do you buy your styrene? i used to buy it at my university but since i graduated i cant buy from them and i havent been able to find affordable styrene anywhere

  • @MonkeyManThe3rd

    @MonkeyManThe3rd

    5 жыл бұрын

    Call it Indica

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    We have a couple local plastic suppliers in Seattle. Tap Plastics is our favorite!

  • @tmber01

    @tmber01

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey PPA, you could name it "Shape Sucker"

  • @TheFrugalFlyRodder
    @TheFrugalFlyRodder Жыл бұрын

    Hey Bill, it's been a while since vacuuforming for me (worked at a sign company). A little tip: at the end of the vacuum draw, if there are some imperfections where the vacuum didn't pull all the plastic, use a heat gun to reheat the plastic as the vacuum continues to draw. That should fix it.

  • @ryananthony4840

    @ryananthony4840

    Жыл бұрын

    How thick of material were you doing?

  • @KiEuKiTo

    @KiEuKiTo

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@ryananthony4840He's still measuring.

  • @misterfixit1952
    @misterfixit19525 жыл бұрын

    Although you are heating the plastic (to be formed), you also need to heat up the area around the form and vacuum table. As soon as the hot plastic hits the cold form and table it quickly looses heat and looses detail, thus the webbing around the bottom of the mould. Use an infrared bulb (or two) over the vacuum table to preheat the bed and form.

  • @Richard-nb4iv
    @Richard-nb4iv3 жыл бұрын

    2 years later and this video is still worth it. For your heater( you may have solved this long ago), I volunteered once building an Open 60 sailboat, they used prepregged carbon fibre/epoxy. The autoclave they built covered the whole boat and they used refective styrofoam panels with minimal wood framing. Worked like a charm! Loved the video and the trouble shooting process. Thank you!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching and for the tips!

  • @barrylitchfield250
    @barrylitchfield2503 жыл бұрын

    That was kind of difficult to watch. Several years ago (~40 years) I set up a vacuum forming operation for a company that used thousands of parts made on vacuum form machines. Seeing you struggling with starting from scratch to build a vacuum forming machine was hard to watch. All of the things that didn't work, and needed to be fixed, were very common when you're first learning about vacuum forming. I was glad to see you finally pulled a successful batch of parts. Good luck on your continued adventures in vacuum forming from the ground up. A good, wholesome video you made. It showed the good, the bad, and the ugly of starting to learn a new skill set.

  • @jennifermeaker615
    @jennifermeaker615 Жыл бұрын

    Dope! I love how you showed your trials and errors, and talked through the various issues and possible solutions, etc. Super cool to see the realistic process, and appreciative that the time you put in will save us time when we take this project on. Thanks!!

  • @Richez1
    @Richez15 жыл бұрын

    This was actually very handy for me as im a younger diesel mechanic and i have loads of tools and this was a perfect way for me to make custom tool organizers for all of my tools even the oddball ones i own and so far its working perfect i just used black plastic and it was slightly thicker for durability. I also made a couple tool trays for a couple other guys in the shop and they love it so far! Great idea. Been trying to solve this problem for a while!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's fantastic!

  • @tomnajjar8799

    @tomnajjar8799

    2 ай бұрын

    I know its been five years, but what plastic did you use and where did you get it?

  • @KP-nx8lo
    @KP-nx8lo4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for always showing yourself wearing proper safety gear! It makes others more conscious of safety

  • @iluvhistory2
    @iluvhistory25 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad to see you making something that’s not perfect. Designing as you go is how many of us do things, we try one thing, and if it doesn’t work, we try to think of a better way. I think an imperfect build video is very inspiring.

  • @SoHautRightNow
    @SoHautRightNow5 жыл бұрын

    Ah, that book is such an awesome resource! Awesome build. Loving the new "as we go" style.

  • @thiagomirandaautomacaoindu888

    @thiagomirandaautomacaoindu888

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/moiY0rp_nczRps4.html

  • @alexjones8058
    @alexjones80585 жыл бұрын

    I’ve started keeping a log of all my vacuform pulls: time, temperature, material used, that sort of thing. It makes it easier to keep track of what works well, and what doesn’t- especially what doesn’t.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic tip Alex!

  • @lawsonroesch101

    @lawsonroesch101

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am making one for the first time what do you recommend

  • @MrCubflyer
    @MrCubflyer3 ай бұрын

    best video Ive ever seen on how to make a vacuum forming table . It seems like most people treat them like its a secret or something they show the end result but no details on how to do it thanks.

  • @susanduryea5070
    @susanduryea50705 жыл бұрын

    Love you guys ! We made ours with replacement heating elements for a range oven, only because we needed a higher temp to soften 1/4” plexiglass and lexan. Just as another fan mentioned we also use blower tip to cool down and remove the template from the plastic. Keep up the great videos. Please keep the bloopers coming!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Woah 1/4" thick is serious! Color me impressed. =D

  • @markevens
    @markevens5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I loved watching the struggle and troubleshooting you did. It's nice to know that it is okay to not get it right the first time, and make adjustments when needed.

  • @thiagomirandaautomacaoindu888

    @thiagomirandaautomacaoindu888

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/moiY0rp_nczRps4.html

  • @MarkWarbington
    @MarkWarbington5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Bill. Just one critique for you. MDF is porous (you can actually pull a vacuum through it) so you're probably losing a lot of your vacuum potential to the underside of the table. Just give the bottom and the sides a coat of polyurethane and that will seal it right up. Good luck!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great addition Mark, thanks!

  • @evilutionltd

    @evilutionltd

    5 жыл бұрын

    No way you are losing any vacuum through MDF.

  • @vasili1207

    @vasili1207

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is not possible as mdf is gas tight. As it's a compressed fibres impregnated with its own binder. as. Really shitty advice doctor mdf

  • @cohode6290

    @cohode6290

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are absolutely incorrect, MDF is extremely porous and will not hold a vacuum, try to make a vacuum camber with an MDF lid, you will find out how porous MDF really is.

  • @vasili1207

    @vasili1207

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cohode6290 bullshit

  • @thefunbot
    @thefunbot5 жыл бұрын

    nice job!! when the last run hit the mold i was so impressed!

  • @greggwright6732
    @greggwright67325 жыл бұрын

    Great instructional video, great details! Just what I was looking for! Thanks!

  • @drwhoweigs
    @drwhoweigs5 жыл бұрын

    That final piece very MST3K :)

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Close, needs more spaghetti. =)

  • @drewpickard554
    @drewpickard5545 жыл бұрын

    Couple of thoughts on the machine, As far as tripping breakers stuff usually draws the most amps at start up so doing what you did and starting one at a time is a good idea and point to make. I think the real thing with the overhead heater not liking life was the large gaps on top. If you had closed the top gaps and do aluminum tape on the inside I bet it would of worked. Also you might want to think about getting on of those foot on/off switchs for the vac

  • @Ainsy1970

    @Ainsy1970

    5 жыл бұрын

    Regarding heat. It rises and will always try to equalise. Life can be hard enough without fighting nature too.... Underside heaters and good insulation is definitely the way to go.

  • @cristianpaulmartinez52
    @cristianpaulmartinez525 жыл бұрын

    wow! thank you i remember seeing your video about the small vacuform & was excited to see this be done

  • @michaeldiaz6570
    @michaeldiaz65705 жыл бұрын

    Awesome build. Glad you stuck with it

  • @skuffle5309
    @skuffle53095 жыл бұрын

    What a fun project! For the platen I would've done away with the mesh and added a ring on the elbow as a stop so that it doesn't go all the way to the top. This allows for a higher CFM since there's less air resistance. The other change would be to make your "oven" shorter so that there is less volume for the heaters to heat up alleviating some lost heat calories. Otherwise, great build :D

  • @IDMTB3D

    @IDMTB3D

    5 жыл бұрын

    you need the distance to distribute the heat more evenly to the corners

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @dolfinmagikpro

    @dolfinmagikpro

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Brandon Winters - Wouldn't putting a small fan to circulate the air help alleviate this issue? Just a thought.

  • @chrislinda3623

    @chrislinda3623

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@dolfinmagikpro That was my first thought but you would probably want to get yourself an old or replacement oven fan. Catch being that most of the heat is radiant heat from the heat elements so your really only blowing around the secondary heat (from the plastic). Which is also why the "10 min preheat" probably isnt doing a lot. If you sit under those heaters its hot when they are on and cold when they are not but they dont really heat a room very well only surfaces they shine their light on. If you really wanted to spread the heat out changing the curve of the reflector would be the answer although probably a real pain. Making the curve shallower would enable the IR light to spread out more giving a more even heat but the foil box is probably doing similarly assuming you are far enough away with the box height. A V shape of mylar would probably give the profile you are looking for with the reflective box the rabbit hole is never ending. Those heaters are built to focus heat and that isnt really what you want but "modification is the mother of invention" or some such.

  • @christopherknerr2851

    @christopherknerr2851

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why not use Mylar faced styro-insulation boards for the wall material? dual purpose as it would insulate better and reflect any radiant heat back to the center of the box. Just a thought :)

  • @EthanfromEngland-
    @EthanfromEngland-5 жыл бұрын

    When casting its a good idea to pull past the object. It gets rid of the webbing ruining the result and means it can be cut off. Either be able pull past the table height or raise the master via a stand. Idk if im making any sense. Also I love the scifi panel idea.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    I get what you mean. Probably a down side to the way I built this frame. It stops at the platen.

  • @bigbadmanjocko

    @bigbadmanjocko

    5 жыл бұрын

    You just need a shallow spacer under the buck that's smaller than the buck so it has some undercut.

  • @colinfindlay4790

    @colinfindlay4790

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@punishedprops Adam Savage has the video you need :-) kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZWX1JOQla61qrw.html

  • @designatscale9224
    @designatscale92245 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I am definitely building one of these for my classroom! Yes! Vacuum forming AND VR all in the same year! Thanks again, guys.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Right on!

  • @user-sd3kz5hp1q
    @user-sd3kz5hp1q10 ай бұрын

    You made this look incredibly easy to do. Wow. You made this look incredibly easy to do. Wow.

  • @SoRadAwesomeStCool
    @SoRadAwesomeStCool5 жыл бұрын

    Bill: "So you're probably wondering..." Me: "Why you counter sunk holes that are going behind a bracket?" Bill: "... why I'm going with this aluminum." Me: "Nope. Not wondering that at all."

  • @charetjc

    @charetjc

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's "removing" the "burrs" so the brackets are flush. Yeaaaaa, that's it.

  • @Pr0toc01

    @Pr0toc01

    4 жыл бұрын

    De-burring the holes

  • @PhuVet
    @PhuVet5 жыл бұрын

    You should look at frank's at tested. He has one he got from Jamie thats very simple and powerful...same above type heater assembly.

  • @philgallagher1

    @philgallagher1

    3 жыл бұрын

    I for one have never seen Frank and Bill in the same video. I'm convinced they're the same person!!

  • @construccioncasaideashogarobra
    @construccioncasaideashogarobra4 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I need this. The hot plate! That's so smart.

  • @wilwrk4tls
    @wilwrk4tls5 жыл бұрын

    I very much like the build! I'm moving soon and will finally have room for one in my new workshop space. Something we used to do a place I worked was put carpet padding under the master which let it pull vacuum all around. If there's a few more dollars to throw at the project instead of aluminum foil to line the box you could get a roll of Reflectix- it's great stuff and you'll bake the plastic in no time! You'll lose a LOT less heat. Also you could tape off unused areas and make a smaller vacuum area on the table to use with a smaller frame. Multiple tables in one.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great tips, thanks for sharing! =D

  • @BuckJolicoeur
    @BuckJolicoeur5 жыл бұрын

    Three things: 1: Use insulation around the box to decrease heat loss. 2: Add a plastic mirror (45 degree angle) to the bottom so you don't have to squat down for the IR Sensors. 3: Blow an air chuck into your form to release it.

  • @browndyt
    @browndyt5 жыл бұрын

    Instead of bolting the aluminum frame together, using some 'low temp aluminum braising rods' would create a joint stronger than tig welded aluminum. and only needs a plumbing blowtorch. as a bonus it will also fill in any imperfections for those who do not have a metal band saw. There are several you tube videos showing how to use it.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very cool!... or... HOT!?

  • @brettaylor2661

    @brettaylor2661

    5 жыл бұрын

    wow. I never knew about this. I've been a tig welder a long time and always recommend welding as a last resort. There are so many ways to join things without distorting them like welding has the potential to do. Thanks for the tip on the deal.

  • @marvincarvin1846
    @marvincarvin18465 жыл бұрын

    Great, enjoyed the build. I have used foil faced foam insulation board (held together with the ubiquitous alum foil tape) to build heat boxes.

  • @johnremiguzon6538
    @johnremiguzon65385 жыл бұрын

    Nice build guys. I always wondered how a vacuum molding machine worked . Thanks for sharing 😊

  • @captain_qwerty2626
    @captain_qwerty26265 жыл бұрын

    14:57 "0 days glitter free" hahaha.

  • @northernfreelance5788
    @northernfreelance57885 жыл бұрын

    start the vac before you lay the sheet on.it needs no delay when applying.

  • @Cee.Jay.71

    @Cee.Jay.71

    5 жыл бұрын

    This was going to be my comment also, it's common sense that each second that passes the plastic is hardening! Anyway, must rush - I'm going to go throw some room temperature plastic at my mother-in-law to see if I can make a mask for Halloween.

  • @gregd.88

    @gregd.88

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your mother-in-law needs a mask? Mine came with her own!

  • @jwhitehorse3601
    @jwhitehorse36013 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love the ingenuity involved in this build. This gives me great ideas for building mine with a few revisions. Great video thanks.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! We're super glad you found it helpful :)

  • @sansker423
    @sansker4235 жыл бұрын

    Love this! a few suggestions though. if you put sharpened inserts (5-6) along the edges where the sheet plastic is, it will act as teeth and "bite" the plastic holding it tight. no need to screw and unscrew each piece to hold edges of plastic. also, if you drill very fine holes on edges of the shapes in the form you will get suction from inside the mold, not just the outside making better/crisper forms. you can then reverse airflow when set and the mold will pop/release. To get rid of webs, preheat that area before the oven with a heat gun. the extra heat in that area will help it form.

  • @andybogart2503
    @andybogart25035 жыл бұрын

    I suggest you throw that vac in reverse and invite me over for some air hockey!!

  • @Sandriell
    @Sandriell5 жыл бұрын

    FYI: Highly recommend wearing at least a dust-mask when working with MDF- creates super fine dust that is terrible for your lungs.

  • @vortex__cronos9514

    @vortex__cronos9514

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sandriell he had one?

  • @MakeupMobster
    @MakeupMobster Жыл бұрын

    You made this look incredibly easy to do. Wow

  • @PKTEK
    @PKTEK5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bill! Making this during the weekend for super secret projects.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ooooh!

  • @Celticshade
    @Celticshade5 жыл бұрын

    *tosses duplicator sitck in the trash* welp guess it wont work anymore *turns away* *looks back* and now there is 16 trash cans, ugh.

  • @Oldman-Havok
    @Oldman-Havok5 жыл бұрын

    The Suk-o-matic 9000!!!

  • @GFlCh
    @GFlCh5 жыл бұрын

    Great build, great video. I haven't built one of these, I'm not an expert at this and I don't play on on TV, but I did think of a couple of suggestions ... here is just one. It's a bit complex, but not so much if you plan the build around it from the start: For the heater box: 1) Cut a slot in one side, about 1-inch down from the top, and for the full width of the box (yes, this would cut through your hinges but it could be planned for in a new build. The height of the slot should be about, but a little bit bigger than 1/4 inch, but see step 5 to plan the slot dimension. 2) Next cut 2 strips of wood, say 3/8 or 1/2 inch (square in cross-section), and as long as the inside dimension of the box. 3) Attach these 2 strips of wood inside the box, on the 2 sides adjacent to the side where you cut the slot, about 1-inch down from the top of the box. The top of the strips should be even with the bottom edge of the slot you cut, in step-1. 4) Optionally, an additional similar strip of wood could be attached in a similar way to the remaining side (the side opposite to the slot). 5) Prepare a piece of wood (Plywood, MDF, Masonite, ...). Logically this would be made of the same material as the material used for the box. The thickness will be 1/4 inch, but this piece of wood has to fit into the slot cut in step-1, so if using a thicker piece of wood, the height of the slot cut in step-1 needs to match. The width of this wood needs to be lightly smaller (narrower) than the inside dimension of the box. The length needs to be about 1 inch longer than the inside dimension of the box. 6) Optionally, cut a strip of the same material, about 1 inch wide, and the length of the box. Mount this strip about 1/2 inch above the slot, using a continuous hinge, or a few individual hinges, or interlocking screw-eyes and hooks. This piece should swing (pivot) to block or allow access to the slot. 7) Insert the piece of wood cut in step-5 into the slot and push it all the way in, until it touches the opposite side of the box. This piece will be a "lid/cover" that you slide in or out as needed. Now, when you use the heat-box, you can pre-heat the box, then place your framed plastic sheet on top, and slide the cover out, and you have full instant heat.

  • @rockyrodriguez2351
    @rockyrodriguez23513 жыл бұрын

    Cool and educational video, thanks for posting.

  • @14Mew
    @14Mew5 жыл бұрын

    Bill you might think about adding some wooden handles on the sides of the frame similar to old metal pans. That way you don't have to worry about gloves

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty fantastic idea!

  • @startide

    @startide

    5 жыл бұрын

    You still need the gloves to help the plastic push through as you vacuum it down... plus you are always at risk of touching the frame while handling the whole thing. Handles can help sure, but keep the gloves !

  • @jones1618
    @jones16185 жыл бұрын

    I think you could do without the extra screws if you glued a thin rubber gasket around the aluminum frame. That would grip the plastic better and more evenly. Also, if you regularly need to vac-form smaller pieces, it seems like you could just cut an adapter matte out two thin metal sheets that would clamp into the larger frame. Name ideas: Ooie-gooey Prop Drop, Shape Sucker, Fantastic Elastic Plastic Press (FEPP)

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty great idea!

  • @jones1618

    @jones1618

    5 жыл бұрын

    Another suggestion: You might get more even heating if you added a PC muffin fan inside to create internal convection (not to draw in or exhaust air).

  • @RDGoodner
    @RDGoodner5 жыл бұрын

    I loved this video. Watching things not work is every bit as instructive as watching everything work on the first take. Your frustration was fun to watch, too. You're very sympathetic as stuff goes wrong. I might suggest adding a lid to your warming box. Heat rises, so you're losing heat while it's warming up.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you could benefit from our frustration. =D

  • @mitsos306ify
    @mitsos306ify7 ай бұрын

    Nice build! Loved the panel! Your a biilder and an artist! Congratulations!

  • @warcorer
    @warcorer5 жыл бұрын

    This should be the "Carbonite Chamber", also you should vacuum form a Han Solo 3D print and paint it to look like carbonite from Star Wars.

  • @MrMonk052798
    @MrMonk0527985 жыл бұрын

    The hot box

  • @Ana_Sultan
    @Ana_Sultan5 жыл бұрын

    What a nice job for making molds for casting gypsum

  • @LetMeFixThis
    @LetMeFixThis2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, dude! This was fun watching; great job!

  • @jennimorgan394
    @jennimorgan3945 жыл бұрын

    “Acme Atomic Styrene Transmutational Energy Amplification Device”

  • @dougsundseth6904
    @dougsundseth69045 жыл бұрын

    Rather than using a purely radiative heating scheme, which has the unevenness problems that you ran into here, is there any reason you couldn't have added a fan and made this more convective? That would be a more even heat source and would have the added advantage that you should be able to keep the plastic below the heat source, which is less prone to ... letting out smoke ... and would also be much smaller, and thus more efficient. The big issue that I can think of would be sourcing a fan (and connections) that could handle the glass-transition temps you're looking at. This would assume that the fan lives entirely inside the box; if you were to put the fan outside, you would need to heat the inlet air as well as the chamber air, which seems more difficult to me, but might work. As an aside, I found it kind of funny that your shop has a spindle sander but apparently no large hole saws. 8-)

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've considered it, but I've never heard off anyone else using a fan for their vacuum former heating elements. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @dougsundseth6904

    @dougsundseth6904

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@punishedprops After thinking about it for a bit (like you do), If you were to keep the motor out of the heated space and just run a shaft through the wall with a metal-bladed fan inside, you could probably use inexpensive components. The hole in the wall of the oven wouldn't let out much heat, especially if it were kept close to the diameter of the shaft. (And you could even use a bearing at the wall if over-engineering is your thing.) 8-)

  • @wayneparris3439
    @wayneparris34395 жыл бұрын

    A couple tips from an aerospace tool maker / metal worker ... now retired. I am making these while watching the video so if you address something after I say it, good on you for seeing something and taking care of it! When cutting angle to make a frame, esp alum, simply notch the top there is no need to cut all the way down the sides, you just cut a "triangle" out of the top and bend the sides, less work and a stronger frame results. Tap magic... unless it is specifically for Alum, is not to be used on alum. There is a chemical reaction with the chloronated fluid and alum, bad things result. Center punching is good, nice work. Interesting use of window hardware! 1,2,3 blocks are GREAT to use for quick measurements! Those heaters should be radiant heat so if you made a closed box and made it deeper IE more distance between the heater and the plastic, you should get a wider pattern of heat. A heat GUN can be used to spot heat for better detail under vacuum. . In addition, a cover over the plastic will also hold the heat in, without a cover you have a large radiating surface. Over all score I would give it a 9.5 out of 10. Nice job!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Thanks and great tips! =)

  • @nidhoggoflegand
    @nidhoggoflegand5 жыл бұрын

    Love the build and look forward to trying it out soon. Just a friendly bit of advise. Welding that type of aluminum is called brazing a few of the proper brazing rods and a small torch with yellow MAP gas and your set. Lastly at least in the US most electrical code requires receptacles to be wired with 12g wire on a 20amp breaker. Only lighting circuits should on 14g wire with a 15amp breaker.

  • @snouty2005
    @snouty20055 жыл бұрын

    OMG I already own that book! That almost never happens :D

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's such a great book!

  • @andy-in-indy

    @andy-in-indy

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's one of the best books on the subject. There is so much to learn from it!

  • @snouty2005

    @snouty2005

    5 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @lenaoliver4037
    @lenaoliver40375 жыл бұрын

    I think the vacuum former looks like a Clyde.

  • @Murat_Ustundag
    @Murat_Ustundag Жыл бұрын

    Instead of the steel mesh, you use for the vacuum system, stick the pipes just like you would make a floor heating system. but group the above holes and place the pipes, one pipeline every 4-5 rows. also, join the pipes in each group into a single pipe. then fill between the pipes with a filling material such as silicone, liquid plastic, plaster or epoxy. After it hardens, remove the pipes. so you will have pipelines distributed into groups from a single pipe inlet. In this way, you vacuum the air in a controlled and equal amount. You put a lot of effort into making this video. Thank you for keeping us informed.

  • @gatorwing6231
    @gatorwing6231 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work. I watched a vacuum form machine work. The big difference is the heat is kept on even as the vacuum is pulled to completion. The heaters were above the plastic and lowered evenly using cables and pulleys.

  • @Claytrix
    @Claytrix5 жыл бұрын

    A BANANA for scale? Are you also an IMGURIAN, Bill?

  • @max-jx8nv

    @max-jx8nv

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not exclusive to imgur

  • @cjfish6349
    @cjfish63494 жыл бұрын

    I made a foot switch to operate the heating coils and the vacuum, leaving my hands free. Don't need any help.

  • @chuckscott5624
    @chuckscott56245 жыл бұрын

    I'm super excited to find this video! Gotta make one of these

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's been very handy!

  • @scottmemberg
    @scottmemberg5 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, great video! Useful info as well. I cant wait to make our VF-table so we can do armor pieces. Keeping the distance from the heater and the plastic is important since it Begins to cool fast.

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    @thiagomirandaautomacaoindu888

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Hinanolaulii22
    @Hinanolaulii225 жыл бұрын

    Call it the holey Grill

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    HA! Yes!!!

  • @narcissisticpanda
    @narcissisticpanda5 жыл бұрын

    Its name is Mr melty

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like it!

  • @Banjo-lm2wl
    @Banjo-lm2wl5 жыл бұрын

    Home casting pro! great job guys

  • @TheJohnqpyro
    @TheJohnqpyro5 жыл бұрын

    Great Project, I liked that you showed the mistakes as well as the successes. Well Done, Oh and I kinda Like Franken Former !!!

  • @RBCharger
    @RBCharger5 жыл бұрын

    There is no reason to preheat the box.

  • @aetheldread

    @aetheldread

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah...that confused me. I don't understand why it was necessary to heat it without the plastic... if anything... I would assume it would heat faster being closed off.

  • @sgartner

    @sgartner

    3 жыл бұрын

    I jumped in here to say the exact same thing. All he's doing there is wasting the initial heat (electricity). Yes, I know it's been two years...

  • @jamesforler6897

    @jamesforler6897

    10 ай бұрын

    He was concerned with getting an even temp across the plastic at all times. I agree that pre heating wouldn’t be necessary but if you wanted to, I’d make a temp cover to improve efficiency

  • @LukeTN27
    @LukeTN275 жыл бұрын

    Would have been cheaper to just cut some wood spacers and not use the wire mesh.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a great alternative!

  • @vodundesigns3076

    @vodundesigns3076

    5 жыл бұрын

    I built a machine a few years ago and used a router to carve the air ways into the mdf board instead of using spacers around the edge so I would have less edge seems to leak. www.vodundesigns.com/project/vacuum-forming-machine/

  • @kentvandervelden

    @kentvandervelden

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vodundesigns3076 Wow, nice website and projects!

  • @Skullyweb

    @Skullyweb

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep did spacer blocks with mine. For the platen I stole the biggest cookie sheet my wife had. Been using it over 10 years now.

  • @brettaylor2661

    @brettaylor2661

    5 жыл бұрын

    i was thinking about that material they use in office ceilings over lighting. its a plastic mesh that has some height to it.

  • @VeradonaRestoration
    @VeradonaRestoration5 жыл бұрын

    Wow, good idea, Thanks !

  • @d3115uxor
    @d3115uxor5 жыл бұрын

    what i love about this video is this; your shop is like mine tool wise...... mostly harbor freight except for the bosch drills :D

  • @DanielS2001
    @DanielS20015 жыл бұрын

    Name recommendation: The Vacuumator.

  • @JMulvy
    @JMulvy5 жыл бұрын

    hrmmm... 24 x 24 = 576..?

  • @niniliumify

    @niniliumify

    5 жыл бұрын

    23x23=529

  • @JMulvy

    @JMulvy

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said 24 by 24 in the video.

  • @fdsman

    @fdsman

    5 жыл бұрын

    He also says 525 not 529.

  • @Meximagician

    @Meximagician

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's like nobody learns what factoring is good for anymore: 24^2 = (4 * 6)^2 = (2 * 2 * 2 * 3)^2 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 = 2^6 * 3^2 = 64 * 3 * 3 = 192 * 3 = *576*

  • @JMulvy

    @JMulvy

    5 жыл бұрын

    haha, clever.

  • @carlosricart931
    @carlosricart9313 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this informative and educational video. It demystifies the process of thermoforming.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful!

  • @chadheadley78
    @chadheadley783 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, really enjoyed watching!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @whatyoumakeofit6635
    @whatyoumakeofit66355 жыл бұрын

    Your 45 degree cuts should have been 22.5 degree cuts.

  • @nathanrogers8713

    @nathanrogers8713

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought the same. However that little miter box probably only had a 45.

  • @whatyoumakeofit6635

    @whatyoumakeofit6635

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nathanrogers8713 ahh.....yeah your probably right.

  • @whatyoumakeofit6635

    @whatyoumakeofit6635

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nathanrogers8713. I was wondering why he rounded the corners and then squared and mitered everything else. Change of plans I imagine.

  • @wayneparris3439

    @wayneparris3439

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually the total angle was 90 deg so 45 is correct for each side of a 90 deg corner.

  • @kimlassiter8904

    @kimlassiter8904

    5 жыл бұрын

    Call it “Old Sucky” because you are probably already thinking about building a new, better one🤪👍

  • @dozer88finn
    @dozer88finn5 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys!!

  • @scottshipley9230
    @scottshipley92304 жыл бұрын

    I worked in a modeling shop in the 90's and we built our own oven and vac table...for better definition on fine details, perforate the object being formed, especially the deep central cavities. Also, have the vacuum arrive before dropping your frame. Nice work!

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @lkw6640
    @lkw66405 жыл бұрын

    Love what you're doing. Just a couple of points about the heaters. They are infrared heaters. That means that they don't heat the air in the box, they only heat surfaces. So you don't need to preheat. White material reflects much of the heat away, that's why it takes so long to heat. Try building a 3"-4" deep box out of sheet metal to put over what you already have and paint the bottom of the sheet metal facing the heaters with flat black engine paint. That will turn the sheet metal box into an oven. You may need to put it closer to the heaters to get the temps you want but I doubt it since your getting close to your desired temp already. You will have to preheat it to get the sheet metal hot but it shouldn't take very long and it will be an even heat. It's pretty easy to build too.

  • @Katya5cat
    @Katya5cat9 ай бұрын

    Great video I wish that I had seen this years ago. I made mine similarly but I added strategically placed holes in the molds to allow more vacuum where the definition needs some help.

  • @brookswade5774
    @brookswade57743 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. The end result worked perfectly.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @bjarnivalur6330
    @bjarnivalur63305 жыл бұрын

    I love how the thumbnail makes you look like a mad scientist

  • @brettaylor2661
    @brettaylor26615 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I wish I had a space to do this. I'm working on the itty bitty former now. Got me a really nice large size toaster oven yesterday for $.69 / lb which came to about $11. Still need me a 2 gal shop vac.

  • @Mekazas
    @Mekazas5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video for the Softsuck 2000!

  • @Biohazarus
    @Biohazarus5 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the vacuum on/off, always handy to have someone hidden behind the counter, but a foot switch count be a nice addition!

  • @PB8man
    @PB8man5 жыл бұрын

    Great job! You'll get even better definition if you heat the negative with a heat gun or blow dryer. It will help negate some thermal diffusion from the plastic to the negative.

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    @thiagomirandaautomacaoindu888

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @dudebroham4083
    @dudebroham40835 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the awesome tutorial. I'm not sure how you prepped the sheet metal but you could emphasize that preparation is key when using adhesives. A lot of times they use a protective coating or even petroleum on the sheet metal so I usually clean it really well with 91% isopropyl rubbing alcohol and then I'll lightly rough it up with some 220 sandpaper. Thanks again I'm looking forward to building a table for myself for forming and laminating wood.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    So glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @timmyd24601
    @timmyd246015 жыл бұрын

    I love how "sci-fi" themed has become simply just a bunch of random objects laid out in an orderly pattern... I love trying to find super common things like flashlights in sci fi scenery, they are all over the place!

  • @banddboy
    @banddboy3 жыл бұрын

    A great video, most diy videos are edited and only show things going well. You had the courage to shoot from the hip and included the mistakes. I've known for years that the only way to learn is through the mistakes we make, nice job and thank you.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    3 жыл бұрын

    We're really glad you found it so helpful!

  • @beardedgremlin8117
    @beardedgremlin81175 жыл бұрын

    I love it. Have seen how Bob from ILTMS did his with the heat from above. Also if you put something under it and lift ur master the corner creases aren’t right on ur cast but I love you guys stuff

  • @jimviau327
    @jimviau3275 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! Adding a 6vac power transformer to the original 120vac would give you a 10% power boost, most probably enough to compensate for the borderline heating.

  • @dpav7994
    @dpav79945 жыл бұрын

    Thats pretty awesome! Just an FYI, you can weld aluminum fairly easily without a welder. You just need to heat up the corner with a torch and rub an aluminum welding rod in there.

  • @LonChaneyJrfan52
    @LonChaneyJrfan525 жыл бұрын

    Lol when Bill voiced the clamp he drilled into I immediately heard the chocolate bunny from last year’s Simpson’s Treehouse of Horror after Homer’d taken the first bite out of it. Loved the video by the way. Been doing a lot of vacuum forming machine research lately and this will definitely come in handy reference wise

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's fantastic! Good luck on your build.

  • @dipootube
    @dipootube Жыл бұрын

    I used to vacuum forming an RC body a few years ago, in order to have more details you should drill some holes on the panel you want to form, don't have to be too big, just make it 3 or 4 holes depending how big or wide your panel would be, just to help the air sucked not only from the side of the panel but also from the center. That would helps you get more details.

  • @Seanfrtd
    @Seanfrtd5 жыл бұрын

    Suggestions and tips: Heater box: - adjustable height (adjustable heat, faster or slower heating), -single custom element (keeping in mind that this is a build of hardware store bought items, tear the two heaters apart and put the coils where you need them to be) Aluminum frame: -you can braise wield aluminum with a propane or map/pro torch (takes practice and a good torch head), -on the inner side of the frame where it grips the plastic put punch marks (punching from the sides that don't grip the plastic), all around the inner edge of the frame (making gripping dimples), or just puncture through the aluminum altogether with a nail or big punch to make gripping teeth -Also the aluminum frame was best idea, lightweight and cools faster The base: -glue the metal and spacers on before cutting for less work, or just don't cut the corners, -and primer or sealer or vinyl or veneer on any exposed MDF or particleboard (I hate working with the stuff and find that these wood like to attract ambient moisture)

  • @jaarriaga1978
    @jaarriaga19785 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video, you have real talent for props and for videos.

  • @punishedprops

    @punishedprops

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @RaeCarson
    @RaeCarson5 жыл бұрын

    Name for build: Mind Melder, since it takes your collective ideas and molds them into place. =]

  • @tedrowland7800
    @tedrowland78004 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Sometime in the spring, (around May because my Michigan garage is unheated), I'm going to modify your design for a different purpose. I want to make a vacuum table clamp. I will use rubber, and a vacuum pump and install a ball valve. (plumbing). The idea is to put an acoustic guitar back inside, and vacuum the wood to scalloped braces while gluing, to create that violin style back. I think I will put a layer of plexiglass on the bottom of the MDF, to prevent air leakage. Thanks again.

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