The HAF Stacker was ahead of it's time back in the day!

@utp216

2 жыл бұрын

That’s right! I remember that series.

@hamsterwolf

2 жыл бұрын

That was an amazing case wish they would bring it back.

A 1/4 of the front intake fans are being blocked on the sides by the case. As I wrote this you covered it, nice.

@Level1Techs

2 жыл бұрын

Wendell is a head of the game! ~Editor Autumn

@SirReptitious

2 жыл бұрын

@@Level1Techs Obligatory grammar nazi comment- it's ahead, not a head. The difference between "What's that in the road ahead?" and "What's that in the road, a head?". ;-p

@Level1Techs

2 жыл бұрын

your right. They're is no whey to get a round it. ~Editor Autumn

@SirReptitious

2 жыл бұрын

@@Level1Techs You win this time, Autumn... ;-)

@SUSHI4lyf

2 жыл бұрын

@@SirReptitious You forgot the comma after 'time'. ✌️

Great video. I love my HAF XB Evo case. Nice to see new HAF Cases.

Still rocking my OG HAF-X today, best feature for me is the wheels.

@e-wasted4071

2 жыл бұрын

Same, mine is the blue edition with three 230mm fans. I still use it daily as a work/office PC for doing data recovery and it not only moves a ton of air but does so very quietly. I honestly had no clue for the longest time that 8-core bulldozers were considered toasters because even with the stock (pre-)wraith spire my 8120 (@4.0AC) never topped 60C. The excessive amount of 5.25" bays is no longer useful but the 5 full-size HDD bays definitely still are!

@Jagerbomber

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and I’m still afraid of breaking mine, but I’ve had them off in my current house.

I love the CM HAF series cases. I have used them for personal builds over the years. Good to see CM adding another to their line up.

I love the little Easter egg in this one. W&G FTW! So much fun!

I’ve always had a liking of the CM HAF series cases! Thanks for the video!

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

crap, i thought this was a new model (HAF-500)

As a user of the predecessor (the CM Mastercase H500) its very interesting to see how Cooler Master updated this case to keep up with the new case trends.

8:00 the hard drive tray drop, great editing I love the cut.

@Level1Techs

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't stop giggling over it lol ~ Editor Autumn

I built in one of their recent airflow cases and was surprised how well it went, how good it it is designed...

Great to see the HAF line from CM again. Great cases for components cooling! I’d move the 200mm fans to the top of the case for improved air flow and place a 360 Rad on the front panel with the 200mm fans airflow being 30% or so cut off by the front panel design. The Rubberised 2.5” SSD standoffs are a stroke of genius 🤩🤯! I would to see this up against the Torrent case 🥰👍🥳

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

On the 360 that you mention, what brand 120mm fans would you use for your radiator, since they need to be RGB? And what brand radiator would you go with? and would you mount the 3090 FTW3 card normal horizontal? thanks

3:35 Wendel tempting me to cram my EE-ATX Supermicro Board in there :D The glory of 24 RAM sticks on a single board just doesn't get old. (Yes, that's right not 24GB, 24 Sticks, haha)

Great video. Seems like a good case.

The HAF X was one of the most legendary full tower cases a decade ago. Nice to see CM continuing that legacy with a modernized feature set.

You just reminded me I still have HAF 932 and HAF X saved in a box somewhere from my pas builds :DD

Still rocking my haf912. Took out the dvd and HD trays though

I noticed that restricted opening in the front that blocks most of the airflow potential of 200mm fans immediately. I would think that they would make that front radiator mount removable so that you could get the full potential of those big fans...seems kind of pointless to have such large fans otherwise.

@iaial0

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think Steve Burke is going to hammer hard Cooler Master for this

@ford9050

2 жыл бұрын

@@iaial0 yea, keep checking every hour for his review! Did they even send him one?

@APKconstant

2 жыл бұрын

Removable mount are a very good idea.

@iaial0

2 жыл бұрын

@@ford9050 no idea, but if not then Mr Beve Sturke will get hold of one to review

Love those SSD pegs on my NR600, such a small, yet great quality of life feature.

@javierortiz82

2 жыл бұрын

I have that case (the variant with a dvd slot) and it's great, my only complain is that I can't fit the NDH 15 with both fans because given the height of my ram there's not enough clearance

@blockbertus

2 жыл бұрын

The NR600 is overall a really good bang for the buck case. Really good quality for that price as well. I was pretty pleased with the one I used to build in a while ago.

@trumanhw

2 жыл бұрын

You still buy SATA ssd for your personal computer ..? Hmmph. Mk.

@iaial0

2 жыл бұрын

I loved building in the NR400, which is the mATX version. I loved it so much that I recommend it to everyone now. Very easy to build, to clean and very elegant

Gotta love that removable top.

I like the view from inside the case looking to the front and seeing that the large fans are mostly useless as they are blocked.

I'm building in one of my fav cases the CoolerMaster Haf evo. Homelab server!

The huge front fans are a total waste in that closed off front, they should have commited to the large fan size and cut a bigger opening instead of keeping the 120/140 front fan mount option

in the thumbnail i could have swore you were doing a star trek cosplay in this episode, but it wasnt the black collar and pips i was seeing, it was just your mask :S

@04:05 i remember in old days when 3770k was new i saw 400mm radiators and even 3x3 120mm radiators. anyway Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 have 2 variants 400mm and 200mm (single fan and dual fan 200mm)

I still havve a HAF 932! It's currently housing my NAS.

I still use a HAF XB Cube case 🙂

A little bit bigger, but definitely a good competitor to the LanCool 215 in design. Significant oversight with the amount of metal occluding the 200mm fans in either the top or front configurations. The front fans look to have somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 their total surface area covered. Top mounting is harder to guess with the grate, but certainly more than nothing.

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you say that the 200mm are blocked on the top option mount? Looks like plenty of airflow with this video example. What is the alternative? Cut some sheet metal out of the front? I am a fabricator, so I can do about anything I want and will do some welding wherever I need to and I have lots of extra sheet-metal that I can use,. I can also do plastic moulding pours and epoxy fabrications along with any mod on the face of the earth that I feel fit. So give me some ideas and I will run with it and come up with a beast.

I'm still using the HAF-XB

Maybe one day I'll get a decent replacement for my HAF XB Evo

@ford9050

2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping to get a new case too. I still rock my XB also. Hard to beat it for cooling

Remember the HAF stacker, those were the days.

i saw a teaser for this case last night. the ssd pegs look easy to lose.

Things you can invest in without regrets: 1. A good Monitor 2. A good Power Supply 3. A good Computer case 4. Good Keyboard and Mouse My Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced is still great after 11 years.....

Do you guys use AdobeRGB or NTSC? I've noticed your videos are very lifelike on the M27Q, and a lot of older games with odd color choices make much more sense on it as apposed to a standard SRGB display. Turns out NTSC and AdobeRGB are very similar. Which do you guys use for your videos?

I can tell you effective blocking half the fan area with a metal case will be.

HAF is back?

What are those TVs you have behind you? I'm looking for an ok-ish 55" TV to use as a 1080P monitor. RX6600 @ high-ish settings level of fps. I dunno, maybe one that has VVR. Can you make a recommendation? Preferably something I can get thru BestBuy. I really like the case too, I give it 7 grommets 🐕.

Wondering if you can put a 420 aio in the front if u remove the HDD cage

If priced right this case looks good. A little big for my taste nowadays but cute.

Truly,a case of two HAF's.

Haven't found anything, that would convince me to change from my Raven RV02-E...

Alphacool does rads for 180mm and 200mm fans. I remember seeing it. Alphacool does some crazy stuff :|

@reto

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, alphacool has some interesting stuff.

@iaial0

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they also had 80mm thick radiators for 120 (and also maybe 140mm) fans

@IK4MS

2 жыл бұрын

They do some crazy stuff, just look at how they ask/threaten customers not to post about issues, refuse warranty claims and blame other companies for their products failing. lol

@micobugija6284

2 жыл бұрын

@@IK4MS l have yet to have any issues with alphacool rads and the odd bits l got from them. They arrived pristine.... my fault l dropped a screwdriver on one of the rads tho lol

COmpared to the Lian Li O11 Dymanic EVO , what is the noise level differences? And with a z690 DDR5, 12900K Build, What are your feelings as far as me building into a Lian Li EVO as opposed to this HAF-500, I do really like this unit that you must built, so I'm kinda torn as to which one to use....WHAT WOULD YOU DO? (not a custom loop build)

For a moment I thought you were wearing a 23rd century Starfleet uniform

Disagreed: The thermal efficiency on top is better not because "less area is obstructed" but bc heat rises (and would build up in an area with lower flow and higher turbulence) than in the front. On the top, you're going with the thermodynamic flow. In the front, you're creating one that doesn't otherwise exist (IMO).

Guys is there a case that can fit 8 hdds and still have room for pump/res combo and 2 radiators?

Top panel segment was rough lol

Can you confirm. I think another reviewer said with 2 200mm fans plugged into the fan hub all fans default to 800 rpm when plugged in?

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

that's correct. you will needs to figure some PWM things out and try to somehow figure out how to get them to run faster, good luck with that, if you figure it out, let me know ... my mobo is a cheap ASUS z690 Strix "E" model. Should I have gone with the HERO Ultmate? Or HERO EXTREME ?

@ford9050

2 жыл бұрын

@@dabneyoffermein595 once I'm able to get the case I will bypass the hub and go right to mobo

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

@@ford9050 where can we find this case for sale? my Lian Li EVO was delayed again, i just got the notification and have been sitting on all my build stuff for a long time (since the pre-order on new-egg)

@ford9050

2 жыл бұрын

@@dabneyoffermein595 It's now avail!! I already ordered mine

It's disappointing that the front is made for 120mm fans, yet they slapped on 200mm fans that get obstructed

This is like a costed-down version of the Define 7

Well that was…. interesting. I’m still in the HAF from over 10 years ago. It’s unfortunate that I found most of the thoughtful “niceties” to actually be infuriating. The pegs in the trays are frickin horrible to deal with. The pivoting clamps to hold your expansion cards can kind of be annoying or an issue, but I ended up breaking my top one immediately because I didn’t realize how they actually worked. Couldn’t tell if this case had those. And of course the front I/O panel fried immediately because that was a thing. No dust filter in the front (maybe behind the fans?) makes no sense to me. So much dust.

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I didn't realize there were so many things wrong and missing with the HAF series... Seems like they would have cleaned that up on this HAF-500. OMG, thanks so much or if I have followed your post wrong, let me know that too and thanks again.!!!

Does it come in black?

Looking forward to a potential HAF 700. This attempt seems kind of lazy, though. Might as well get a H500P.

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

can you explain what the H500P is, is that a different brand like

@dynastes4938

2 жыл бұрын

@@dabneyoffermein595 Nah, it is basically the direct predecessor.

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

@@dynastes4938 ok, thanks , i'm sure during my extensive cases explorations/reviewing, I've run across that, so Im going to check it out now and thanks so much again

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

@@dynastes4938 so between the HAF-500, the H500P, and the LL EVO, which would you go with at this exact moment in time (assuming you'd get the EVO Option front Mesh Panel for better air cooling) ? thanks for any help with this tremendous decision

I miss 5.25" bays

Blue shirt needs 100 percent more Starfleet insignia.

Was i the only one who thought he was wearing Spocks uniform lol

Too late Cooler master. Just replaced my decade old HAF X with a Fractal Design Torrent before christmas.

@whatsuphelp

2 жыл бұрын

how is it?

I've started to dislike watching unboxing vids, but all your little comments make me chuckle. "RGB fans" haha. You said in a recent rambly vid about curating things how you're a bad communicator, that's okay, keep it coming. :)

Nice

_engagementttttt_ :D

I have an irrational attraction to huge computer cooling fans (180mm+)

3:56 - triple "160" 🤣

@Adam_Lynn

2 жыл бұрын

1:18 Two "100mm" fans in the front which is what it ships with.......

I don"t personally like the way the 200mm fans are positioned into the frame. A typical PC fan has the greatest airflow on the end of the propeller (which is blocked by the mounting positions for other fans). I'm a physics fan so that thing really annoys me. I'm also a owner of the original H500 and I had to cut these mounting positions for maximum air intake. Yes, I have sacrificed mounting for cooling radiator, but I can 3D print it If I need it. Just my opinion. NO OFFENSE.

@ThatKoukiZ31

2 жыл бұрын

I'd do the same. I modify cars, and everything else I touch so why not a case that has a glaring oversight? Its not that huge of a sacrifice anyway.

Star Trek cosplay episode?

For my future white build... Sigh.

Reviews a high air flow cases, puts a water cooler on the CPU.

Those 200mm fans look irrelevant since more than 1/3 of the front is restricted with the rails for 120/140mm fans.

smoke test

I'm confused as to why anyone would ever put a filter over the exhaust.

@seanpalmer8472

2 жыл бұрын

One word: cats

@jeffsmith63

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanpalmer8472 still a filter on the exhaust would just stop dust from exiting the case

Wendall, ENGAGEMENT CHALLENGE, It would be fun to have a SPIRITED competition between the lovely and talented Brian, the Sassy and smart Cat Lover Krista, and the old Wendall from the past (Wilson). The challenge --> choose the parts and create a SFF Power PC. No conversing between the contestants, this is the tech version of "Lost". Steve and Linus will be the judges of who did the best build, most attractive build, and best performance build. I will purchase the parts list from the winner (at my local MicroCenter) and build my own SFF pc, so the price is a constraint. The only rules are SFF case that can be mounted on the back of a monitor via the VESA mounting infrastructure. The Prize will be 6 bottles of Orange Soda from Schells Brewery in New Ulm Minnesota. The challenge has been presented --> will you accept the joust of 2022?????? (Ninja Cat)🐧🐧

and i dont think i want to play apex legends ever again but i am going to

Am I high or does having no dust filter on the front intake, but using dust filter on top exhaust is completely backwards. Detrimental to the reason dust filters are used, and overtime with exhaust airflow efficiency. Dust is going to build up on the inside of the case extra fast now with a filter to not let it out hahaha. Genuinely concerned on why they did this... If I ran this case, I'd have to use top as the intake pulling through dust filter, and flip the front fans around to use as exhaust. This way I wouldn't have to deep clean the pc every month since everything inside will b coated in dust because 2 massive intake fans with no filter. Ahh I see they are using the PC case as a room dust air filter, sure to suck up all the free dust in the air from the moment it's powered on. Guaranteed! ;)

@iaial0

2 жыл бұрын

I have another cooler Master case (NR400) and it also doesn't have a front filter because the front mesh is fine enough to act as a filter without being too obstructive

@LB_Amerijuanican

2 жыл бұрын

@@iaial0 I disagree. No such thing as "act" like a filter... Those front designs get packed full of dust in a couple months, as well as a nice coating across the entire case inside including on GPU backplate plus the motherboard. I live in a dry area, and regardless of how many times vacuumed or using humidifier to help with dust, still a problem. Running my pc without an actual removable dust filter, is an instant no go for me lol. Also meaning a true real dust filter, and not basically old school metal speaker grill covers as the NR400 resembles lol jk. HAF500 is a pretty awesome case idea/look. Just certain areas that deal with dry low humidity causing dust, then it may become problematic. It would have been relatively easy to have a dust filter incorporated for front. What gets me, a dust filter on exhaust. The only thing it will do is end up blocking airflow trying to be sucked out of the case. All of the air including the dust coming from the front will be slammed up against the exhaust dust filter first, then has to be pushed through. Exhaust airflow should be pulling out, not forced to push out. There's a huge difference. With in a month I can guarantee the top dust filter on haf500 is going to be showing a decent bit of dust on the inside. As well as all the dust near rear exhaust, and backside cpu cooler/top gpu backplate. Been there, cleaned way too much, and stopped buying any case with these type of airflow setups. It goes against fluid dynamics and common sense. A PC case does not need dust filters before air exhausting out of case, that is unless your trying to keep the pc from dusting up your room? lmao doesn't make sense. Also, unless the front panel is basically a thin microfiber cloth, then I'm good - I'll pass.

Background audio track 🔉 has an annoying looping whistle 😐

@nemesis851_

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully stopped by the 330 mark

@nemesis851_

2 жыл бұрын

At 17:15 the whistling audio loop is back

Nice, they fixed the only thing I didn't like about my H500P Mesh, by making the top way more breathable. Edit: p.s Oh yeah wild they made it a lot more skinny, kinda hurts those 200mm fans on the front.

At this point deepcool & antec $100 cases have better build quality & looks & materials than this but features are great just wish it looked & made like the HAF X.

Lol...half of those 200mm fans are blocked by fan mounting hardware behind them and half of the bottom one is blocked by the HDD cage. And those are 200s, so low airflow to begin with... I don't know why nobody does it like Fractal Define S, with 3 HDD cages on the back, where they're not in the way of anything (and still manage to stay cool, my 2 HDDs don't go over 40 degrees there). That case has some of the best internal layout, with no HDD cages or PSU shroud, all open internals with plenty of room for water cooling in front and a fan mount on the bottom to help cool the GPU if needed. Not that it does need help, my 1080Ti doesn't go over 70 degrees in gaming, even with that closed off front panel, and I only use 3 case fans in total. I swear, modern case design has regressed with all the "form over function" crap they do these days... /rant

@JosephArata

2 жыл бұрын

200mm aren't low airflow....... Low speed, high volume, not low airflow by any means. But yes, the metal bits in front of them blocking the fan down aren't good.

@LastSecBloomer

2 жыл бұрын

@@JosephArata Static pressure kills them. You'll get more air moved through the case from 140s...

LOL @ RBG lizard, if i link this to reddit places this video would be inundated with all the threats

HAF the legend? I have been duped into buying one by believing the Linus Tech review. It is a low quality case and it's only saving grace was features that were new at the time.

That's a pretty decent case for the money. The plastic tabs on the panels are pretty much guaranteed to break through repeated use, though.

@dabneyoffermein595

2 жыл бұрын

yea, those plastic tabs are total junk. Also, did you see how flimsy the metal was .....seems like they when to K-Mart and had the out of work shop workers put this together..

Hafflesoff

who wrote that opening joke.......give em' half pay for it........

@Level1Techs

2 жыл бұрын

Wendell writes all his own jokes... I just add flair ~ Editor Autumn

@zenairzulu1378

2 жыл бұрын

@@Level1Techs WeLP😬

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please dont call it haf...

I hate this design. Looks very retro but not in a good way.

Please don't ever use that weeaboo sound effect ever again.