H1MIN: ATTACK ON USS STARK (FFG-31)
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May 17, 1987 the USS Stark (FFG-31) was struck by two AM39 exocet missiles, killing 37 US Sailors and injuring 21. The US claimed that an Iraqi Mirage F1-EQ fired the missiles, but since allegations have been made that is was an Iraqi modified business jet. There is interesting evidence to support this claim and how it happened.
Link to Article by Tom Cooper:
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To add a lttile bit more detail on that story : The falcon that was likely used was modified by Dassault (who also manufactures the f1EQ), for the iraqi army. It was fitted with 2 pylons, a cyrano radar, and a mirage cockpit on the right half of the regular falcon cockpit (as well as all of the electronic of course). It was originally meant to be used as training plane, to help iraqi pilots learn how to use the navigation and attack equipments. The pylons (which are actually located under the root of the wings) were only meant to carry laser designator pods, and reconaissance photography pods, but that pylon standard was also shared by the exocet missile, which meant the iraqi could use it to carry weapons.
@docc459
3 жыл бұрын
Btw a lot of people seem to criticize you for your pronouciation of exocet but it's quite close to what we say in french: it's either pronouced eggs - oh - set or eggs - oh - se (same thing but with a silent t)
That is actually 5 different dimensions of sneeki
@paulincailloux4167
4 жыл бұрын
And a war crime
@GM-xk1nw
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulincailloux4167 Yes, but killing soldiers is not as bad as killing 550 women and their babies by a US bomber.
@JuanHernandez-oi5tg
4 жыл бұрын
@@GM-xk1nw Just like the iraq government does everyday?
@jamesflynn6827
4 жыл бұрын
@@JuanHernandez-oi5tg at least the Iraq Gouverment is not so stupid to shoot down a civilian Airliner with their ship's
@ami6272
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesflynn6827 and then give a medal to the very same man that ordered the killing of hundreds of civilians on said plane.
So glad I found your channel, Animations are the best I’ve ever seen for these topics. Great work!
The exocet firing sequence is "wrong" the missile is first drop from de attachement point, and 1 or 2 seconde later it ignite. Sorry for my english i'am french, btw i had been close to those missiles, and yeah they'r quite big ^^
@B----------------------------D
4 жыл бұрын
I'm french too but my french is bad, and my english is good, heh.
@frqnci2764
4 жыл бұрын
This were used in Malvinas war first tho
@frqnci2764
4 жыл бұрын
@Hammerschlägen M not your son, and iam not wrong is Malvinas, besides The missile was first tested in real combat with The sinking of sheffield and The Antlantic.
@frqnci2764
4 жыл бұрын
@Hammerschlägen M look war or not like it or not ill keep calling it Malvinas. You can ask The french but The weapon was used perfectly killing a lot of british thank to us they could have a lot of sells. You can jerk over that again and again old Man. The world saw how a 3rd nation kick your sorry old ass... Accept it england without USA help Will be part of The 2d and 3rd reich they cant win a war with out help. We manage to put The missile to work on planes that weren't configured for such a equipment, you can also ask the French for that they know what we did, irak idea of how to use the weapon was a good intent. But well if you wanna go and start and a fight like a old granny fart go for it. I did give my information that the weapon was first used in this war. If you have some technically to add say it. Otherwise move on old fart.
@frqnci2764
4 жыл бұрын
@Hammerschlägen M you should be thankfull and have some gratitude that at least I try to speak your language, for being an old fart. Yes if it wasn't for USA you couldn't have possibly won the war, the same British navy and generals of the campaign even admitted it. Lol they suply u with the last batch of sidewinders missiles, the last upgrades in sea harriers that most of them weren't managed to be used, oil, satellite information, and a lot more, oh and Chile also gave you a hand. So yeah you got way more help than we did.
Wow... your channel deserves more visibility, this is a gold mine for the history buff.
It’s a weird feeling that my thought of commercial airliners could be converted into bombers as a surprise attack bomber is closer to real life due to this
@lasersummit7895
3 жыл бұрын
the falcon 50 isnt a commercial airliner, it's a vip military transport plane bruh
@imranhazim5434
3 жыл бұрын
Middle East getting more creative with limited resources like a barrel fills with explosives and throw from commercial helicopter.
@colonelstriker2519
3 жыл бұрын
imran hazim that sounds straight out of a cartoon action movie
@arthurfisher1857
3 жыл бұрын
@@lasersummit7895 I think he knows that.. he's just saying that this attack proves the viability of using jet airliners as first strike, surprise bombers. Kind of like 9/11, but with munitions instead of a kamikaze run
Think we say EX-O-CET
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
his pronunciation is right.
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
French here, he's saying it right
@jamestheotherone742
3 жыл бұрын
@@samarkand1585 Vous ne devez pas être de France parce que ce n’est pas correct en Français ou en Anglais. Exocet signifie poissons volants.
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamestheotherone742 ...oui? Et le missile est nommé après le poisson. Duh.
@jamestheotherone742
3 жыл бұрын
@@samarkand1585 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z2WZxbOanNa-YpM.html
Its almost too high quality. The animations deserve at least a couple of minutes worth of extra words and context!
You should do a video on the various types of night vision like thermal imaging, image intensification and active illumination
"Exhausted" missiles?
@apilas594
4 жыл бұрын
Exocet lol
@jamestheotherone742
3 жыл бұрын
He's just butchering the word "exocet"".
@MarsFKA
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamestheotherone742 I guess he was in a hurry to pack his history into one minute.
I think my NROTC instructor in high school responded to this, he told a story of a ship that got hit with 2 missiles and one didn’t blow up but it went into the barracks room and the rocket engine turned every man in there into just ash
0:44 this right here explains why the Vincennes shot down Iran air flight 655 a year later the captain was afraid of his ship suffering a similar attack
Recently, I came across a vedio clip on which a retired high ranking officer of the Iraqi air force confirmed it was a modified civilian jet that fired the missiles towards Stark.
Great animation and I super like your content and the way you support the viewers with interesting information bout history and technology. In this Animation.. shouldn’t the aircraft climb after it got rid of the weight ? Just asking cause that’s what my imagination tells me.
Best in class animations, please keep those videos coming, subscribed !
Could you explain the radio navigation used by the Avro Lancaster along with some of it's other radar systems?
I remember this. I was only twelve, but it was big news at the time.
underated channel, so.much potential, keep it up!
This is both the best comedy and history channel
This channel is cool keep up the good work
My dad just recently talked to me about this incident. He was a gunners mate on the USS Coontz that night. He said the the CO and the other officers of the Stark fail to use theIr CWIS to prevent it from getting hit. He said the Captain and all other officers were forced out of the navy after that
And a cutting edge warship in hostile waters didn't even have chance to use cwis ECT. I'm beginning to think surface ships are obsolete
@tq6407
4 жыл бұрын
The system was not on.
Pictures of - or a link to the plane would be nice!
As said that falcon 50 originaly was ordered for pilot trainning as there was 2 cockpit one falcon 50 and the training mirage F1
Sneaky way of attack in modern times.
@tq6407
3 жыл бұрын
Not really the Russian had nukes in cargo planes in Canada and the United states, at the beginning of the arms race.
great animation bro.
Cool video, keep it up
"Is that an Exo-SSSHHHHHIIIIIT!"
What about point defence? Did the missiles sneak through, brute force, or was there no point defence system back then?
@jasonirwin4631
4 жыл бұрын
Point defense is not guaranteed to work especially against high speed missiles. What is was told by some of the starks former crew was that the attack came as a surprise the CIWS guns where able to fire for a few seconds before missile impact.
@tq6407
4 жыл бұрын
Had only 1 system and it was aft. And not on.
@jeffbenton6183
3 жыл бұрын
They turned off the CIWS automatic feature, otherwise, they wouldn't have been hit.
Can you say which 3D program you use?
@H1MIN
3 жыл бұрын
Autodesk 3dsmax.
@user-ct8my8rv9c
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I dabbled in Blender for years but you’d never get something that has this kind of quality feel.
Hope it winds up Inna museum, would love to see that beast!
the plane looks outa place, like a commando wearing a suit and tie while fighting a guerilla.
Stark : I am iron man
Cool. Now do USS liberty
Woahh this plane looks so different
Do the USS Liberty next
New video yay
This sounds like the real life counterpart of a classical Knight Rider/A-Team/Airwolf piece of equipment the baddies in those 80s series would use.
Thanks👍
That's a serious business jet.
There is 1 Impostor Among Us
@jotarokujo4787
3 жыл бұрын
How is this related
EX-so-set. SEAR-a-no.
@unepintade
3 жыл бұрын
Ekzocet is the closest you can say it in english
@bendu49100
3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it He's pronouncing Exocet and Cyrano correctly.
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
his pronunciation is right.
Maybe... USS Vincennes and flight 655?
Its like a Q-ship, but in the air.
wow a flying technical. never thought i'd see the day xd
Exo-zet, not Exhausted xD
@unepintade
3 жыл бұрын
it's a C not a Z
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
his pronunciation is right.
Do tandem warheads!
My dads fleet was was going to relieve that fleet and his fleet made no more port stops to go to that sea
The Stark didn't have its Phalanx anti-missile system turned on to auto mode otherwise it would have engaged the missiles. The Navy was concerned about accidentally shooting something down.
@jeffbenton6183
3 жыл бұрын
Then they overcorrected...
@saltyjo7514
2 жыл бұрын
They were incompetent. Period.
It really seems like they should have diverted commercial planes away from the active war zone.
What ever happened....... My brother died
Dark skies has a vid on this particular aircraft.
Damn
An interesting story if true...and also a war crime, which is probably why they stopped using it
@jeffbenton6183
3 жыл бұрын
Soldiers dressed like civilians. Not the only war crime Saddam committed at the time.
Now Iran has a twin exocet firing executive jet
could you pass dassault?
So basically Toyota pickup plane
Now do USS Liberty
i wonder why the CIWS or anti-missile missile did not intercept those ASuM before hitting the warship? Is it because the crew was caught unguard or just plain get surprise attack?
@RonJohn63
4 жыл бұрын
Good question. It had a Phalanx at the time. Maybe the Rules of Engagement denied allowing it to be enabled so that it wouldn't accidentally shoot down a civilian plane?
@pauldietrich6790
4 жыл бұрын
@@RonJohn63 They set the squak to a civil airliner and more than likely had the radar sig to match a civil airliner. For all intents and purposes it looked exactly like standard air traffic using the same route . When making the attack run it was all set up..they had sig and physical intell just to make a short run to launch....think if you were the Capt, how buch time would you have? Is this an emergency civil deviating off route? do YOU want to risk smoking a passenger flight? ROE is in place to help prevent that...
@williammcleod192
3 жыл бұрын
CIWS was in standby...I was not a gunners mate...I was a OS...But it was 1 of the reasons the Captain was relieved...And....as a OS we had Iraqis Id'ed on NTDS as air unknown assumed friendly...Iranian Jets, Air Unknown assumed hostile...The track the Iraqi jet took was a almost nightly occurrence..so lil time to react to being lit by the jets fire control radar...which our EW's picked up..As in most cases such as this...Rules of engagement were flawed..
@nogisonoko5409
3 жыл бұрын
@@williammcleod192 So the entire crew were basically caught unguarded when an aircraft that you tagged as friendly suddenly open fire at OHP? So if the CIWS is on standby how come the weapon did not fire on the AsuM? did you need naval crew permission before it was truly activated or it was automatically defending the ship from any missile based weapon?
@nogisonoko5409
3 жыл бұрын
@@pauldietrich6790 Ohh i see
The Persian Gulf at the time was not a fun place to be. Served six-months in the Gulf onboard the USS Coontz (DDG-40) and was there the night the USS Stark was attacked. The Iraqi’s did some crazy runs the night before targeting US warships.
@vichedges8858
3 жыл бұрын
Lasalle
@yn3wyatt1
3 жыл бұрын
@@vichedges8858 The Great White Ghost of the Arabian Coast. I remember this bad boy sitting pier side a number of times in Bahrain!
@kolboy757
2 жыл бұрын
My dad was also on the coontz that night as a gunners mate, he just told me about this incident recently. I had to look it up
Don't you hate a "civilian" plane/helicopter suddenly attack you?
Please make more video
How did the Iraqi military get French missiles?
I believe they are pronounced Ek-sow-set anti ship missiles. Although I may be wrong
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
You are
@reilly2828
3 жыл бұрын
@@samarkand1585 I have changed it now to the correct British pronunciation. Search it up if you don’t me.
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
@@reilly2828 'the correct British prononciation' is a contradiction on its own
Sneak 100
So much people correcting french words here, it is prononciated exossette basically he spell it right. I also love how my country weapons almost only are used against our "allies", our government is not corrupted at all... De rien au revoir.
@jamestheotherone742
3 жыл бұрын
That would be a girl flying fish though. ;) Its not corruption, just business. AFAIK France never sold weapons to an active combatant with one of its "allies".
@alainprostbis
2 жыл бұрын
Tu crois que les USA a la meme epoque nont pas vendu d'armes a l'Irak??? La majeur partie des armes venaient des USA. Et pour la petite histoire les USA, qui ont encouragé la guerre iran irak, et qui soutenaient officiellement lirak, ont aussi vendu des armes a l'Iran.. . Et c'est en decouvrant cela que saddam a eu lidee de l'attaque de l'uss stark. Quant a l'autre affaire exocet 3 ans plus tot, cest a dire avec l'argentine, l'Angleterre a elle aussi vendu des armes a ce pays. Jusqua 3 jours avant le debut du conflit des malouines, margaret thatcher a essayé de vendre des armes a la junte de buenos aires... Avant de faire de la flagellation anti française je ne saurais que te conseiller de faire quelques recherches sur le sujet... A moins que la France n'ait aucun droit face aux autres pays?
وينهم العراقيين
Fairly certain this is a war crime but who follows the Conventions anyways.
*a W H A T with W H A T that damaged W H A T*
👍
Big if true!
I think it’s pronounced “EX-oh-set”.
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
his pronunciation is right.
@vulcain-sawyer
3 жыл бұрын
@@buckdanny9062 No is realy "EX-o-set" i'm frenc so trust me ;)
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
@@vulcain-sawyer Je suis aussi français, la prononciation de la vidéo est correcte.
How the AIP submarine work peps....
@jeffbenton6183
3 жыл бұрын
There's more than one kind of AIP sub, but I second your suggestion.
The missiles are pronounced Exo-set
Damage control and the rest of the crew were the individuals who saved that ship and shall forever be remembered. I served on the USS Voge FF-1047 and witnessed the Stark pull into the homeport Mayport, Florida
@budmeister
4 жыл бұрын
Was the damage pretty bad?
@tanguygodeau7106
4 жыл бұрын
165kg warhead, with low altitude penetration, the damage must have been pretty bad yeah.
Only used once? Cause they realized the enormous magnitude of their mistake and didn't want the US to come delete them while they were trying to focus on Iran?
@anon-iraq2655
2 жыл бұрын
Because it achieved its purpose and got usa to challenge iran in the gulf
Pas mal non ? C'est français.
So if true: 1) Violates international law by modifying a civilian aircraft and hiding in civilian air traffic, 2) Fires on a non-belligerent military vessel and 3) Attacked said vessel in international waters.
@jeffbenton6183
3 жыл бұрын
2 and 3 were unintentional. 1 is still completely true.
Ex - o - set is the pronounciation
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
his pronunciation is right.
And Iraq was our “buddy” at the time. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
@warpathss5253
3 жыл бұрын
The Iraqis mistook it for an Iranian ship bcs comms weren't working probably (maybe)
@alainprostbis
2 жыл бұрын
@@warpathss5253 nah. It was saddam's revenge when he discovered the US (who encouraged him to wage war against Iran) was also selling weapons to Iran...
@warpathss5253
2 жыл бұрын
@@alainprostbis well he wasn't wrong...... Like why do u have to play 2 faces. Why. Just ignore a fight and move on. ( Don't waste taxpayer's money )
Exo-cet [Set]. Much better.
*Oof*
Technically a act of war by iraq.
@user-ui3pw1ys3k
3 жыл бұрын
Not really , Iraq declared it was an accident and never destroyed the entire ship and the U.S accepted it , also the U.S was selling billions of dollars of weapons to Iran to counter Iraq .
@jamestheotherone742
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you get bit by your own dog.
It's pronounced "X-O-set"
Traduccion..i d i ot...traduction
It's pronounced ex-o-set
Your French needs a little work lol
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't
What the hell is an “exhaus-sette”? Try EX-oh-set.
You keep mispronouncing things and it's annoying as hell...
@buckdanny9062
3 жыл бұрын
his pronunciation is right.
False it was a French pilot on accident
Jeez, learn how to say Exocet..... X-o-set
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
He said it right genius
@attaat
3 жыл бұрын
@@samarkand1585 No he didn't princess.
@samarkand1585
3 жыл бұрын
@@attaat Aye sure mate go tell a Frenchman he's saying a French word wrong
@attaat
3 жыл бұрын
@@samarkand1585 Do I know you?
@attaat
3 жыл бұрын
@@samarkand1585 Oh, and the Dark Skies narrator isn't French. Even the online translators do not say is that way, now talk a walk TROLL.