Gwen is by far the champion in most need of a short story. Literally anything will do, make her help Yorick take care of the Shadow Isles or explore the world and meet other champs like Lewis or Viktor. Just give her some purpose in life

@Gromit2005

6 ай бұрын

Her meeting Viktor sounds like a very funny idea i like it

@angry927

6 ай бұрын

who the f is lewis

@worldlinezero4783

6 ай бұрын

Gotta love Lewis

@krok2112

6 ай бұрын

@@angry927 the gator

@TajinQ

6 ай бұрын

Don't forget my favorite character, Josh

I'd guess gwen is the part of isolda's soul that is the character she made up to be her imaginary best friend, and that's why she "remembers" being her best friend, and things that happen while she's a doll. She's probably what Isolda imagined her to be

My hot take is Gwen should’ve been designed as a support. Her thematic is all about sewing, what about stitching things back together like injuries? The hallowed mist is supposed to counteract the black mist which corrupts everything it touches, so why does Gwen only shield herself? Obviously as she is right now her kit isn’t suited for it, but I still think it’s kind of odd that character based around the hallowed mist and a doll with sewing tools is so inherently selfish in play style

@otterfire4712

6 ай бұрын

It's funny that you mention the idea of making her a support, in the Ruination event's story progression she was the one to design the characters' outfits and styled their hair.

@Axolotlian

6 ай бұрын

I think that would make sense but also seems kind of like the cliche or the most common way of looking at it. Which is fine but maybe the devs wanted to be different. Personally I kind of like that Gwen isn't a support makes her aesthetic stick out more. I think she would be even more of a filler character as a support.

@celeste4034

6 ай бұрын

@@otterfire4712 right, and in the soul fighter universe she HEALS pyke with her needles

@dimyell

6 ай бұрын

Funny you should say that, the reason Gwen's play rate is far lower than that of most champions designed in a similar fashion is because of how she plays. A lot of girls who enjoy support champions like Seraphine seemed to love her design, but don't enjoy the kayle/Yi Hybrid playstyle. Riot's lacking skin sells on Gwen is most certainly a result of her being designed in a far more scaling 1v9 monster machine with some really easy to punish gameplay.

@saltrxn

6 ай бұрын

That would just be cliche and even more hated on as another boring egirl supp champ. I think it’s pretty cool how they used the seamstress aesthetic on a skirmishing champ that would be in the middle of the enemy team literally cutting them apart. It’s the subversion of the ‘supporting mystical dress maker character’ trope that makes her fun; not to mention it makes her matchups generally all these other grisly bruiser and tank champs which is amusing.

i've seen tbskyen theory on the ball that gwen attends to in LoR and i think is nothing short of genius. Gwen receives a misterious invitation to the most magical place she's ever been, se dances and finds an gorgeous gentleman, an enchanted prince you might say, then the mist attack, gwen fights it off and saves the ball and her enchanted prince. It's a fantastical story with aventure, romance and a happy ending, a story really similar to those a child creates while playing with it's dolls.

@ahmadalimi9784

2 ай бұрын

I agree

I really like Gwen. She's a little girl's power fantasy come to life. Where all the 'girly' things that she likes are sources of power and agency. She makes my neices happy when I told them her story and showed them her art.

@Blu_Moon_Owl

6 ай бұрын

I like Gwen too, especially in the aspect that she represents an innocence and a spark of joy among the gloom setting of the Shadow Isles. Shes a sweetheart

@sirbobulous

6 ай бұрын

@@Blu_Moon_Owl And I like the interpetation of her LoR story that she's bopping around bringing happiness to the spectral remains of people of the Shadow Isles. Wrapping them up in her fantasies and saving them from sorrow and horror in her Hallowed Mists.

@abiwonkenabi7027

6 ай бұрын

I agree. She also adds an important positive view of Isolde to counter Viego's obsessive version. She's a valuable addition in both archetype (girly power fantasy) and story value (adds to the Viego/Isolde dynamic)

@princessrayneshia1293

6 ай бұрын

Riot has also talked about why her and lillia were designed the way they were. It was to get women to play jungler and top because historically like 5% of top players were female. And according to riot it worked those 2 champs got alot more women to play top and jungle because those roles finally had characters that appealed to the average female player

@Blu_Moon_Owl

6 ай бұрын

@@sirbobulous yea that’s what I was mainly alluding to. Gives her some reason to still be around as a character

You bring valid arguments Nicky but you forgot Gwen pressed W and is imune

Gwen had memories while being a doll due to objects having simple souls in runeterra. This was revealed in one of Riven's stories while in Ionia and a soulweaver repaired a broken bowl by speaking to its soul.

@GamerJotaro

6 ай бұрын

Honestly I think that's just Ionia being goofy with everything having a soul because (as an extreme example) if you litter on the street and don't clean up after yourself your own house can come alive and beat you up

@pokeystick5952

6 ай бұрын

​@@GamerJotaro Tbh I feel like the only reason why riot did that "every object has a soul thing" is probably to explain how yordle portals can be made from random objects

@kauanjos3199

6 ай бұрын

It's basically toy story but less extreme

As a Gwen enjoyer, I do appreciate hearing your side of the story and understanding her design flaws. But it’ll take more than that to change my mind >:)

i need viego’s character development to essentially be “im not the stepdad, im the dad who STEPPED UP.”

What i do like about Gwen is that she dosen't feel alot like other League women like Fiora, Vayne, Ahri, etc. in the sense that though she is attractive, she isn't that in a vulgar sense and feels like she's a girls deviantart OC, but a good one, and that to me is what i think makes her stand out from the other League girls as she feels like a character that was made by a woman who really likes Tim Burton, the whole goth aesthetic, with Viego perhaps being their dream prince as this sad, broken, *EXTREMELY* sexy man who yeeeaaarns to have his wife back and woulden't you know it; she has an aspect of his wife in her, causing him to obses over her even though under normal circumstances, he probably woulden't. (Also i wanna make note; i don't ship them, this is just my impression and interpertation of Gwen as a character and i can understand if you find it creepy if you think of Gwen more of a daughter to Isolde and subsequently Viego, rather than a seperate entity created *by* Isolde who then later gained an aspect of her.)

@spartanscv

6 ай бұрын

How the fuck are Vayne or Fiora vulgar in any way? Ahri doesnt even have sexual stuff besides porn fanart anymore and is the only one what could be considered vulgar

I feel like Nicky let's his expectations of what Gwen can be destroy his ability to enjoy what she is. She looks like a doll made human which is exactly what she is. She's flawed for sure but definitely not a bad design she's more designed to embody an archetype rather than challenge. Would she be better with button eyes etc? Sure that'd be awesome but I don't think she really needs to change.

@SB-pt7dy

6 ай бұрын

TBskyen moment

@dieselovergas

6 ай бұрын

​@@SB-pt7dyFUCKIN GOTTEM LMAO

@neethaii4689

6 ай бұрын

tbskyen reference

@user-pr1dh2bw6k

6 ай бұрын

A doll made human instead of a human doll. A simple difference, but entirely different results. All because of not questioning if we are interpreting the concept correctly in the first place. TBSkyen moment indeed.

@BCY88

6 ай бұрын

@@SB-pt7dy TBskyen moment? Sorry I'm out of the loop

I sure am excited to see nickboy talk about my favourite character in league surely I won't be annoyed the entire time

@hugocognie1784

6 ай бұрын

I have 3 most played champs. The first is Ekko and i watched the review, it was cool. I'm waiting for Urgot to come out. But for the third... Let's say I don't think he will ever do one, cuz it's the character he hates the most in the entire game...

@thahitscan

6 ай бұрын

cry about it.gif

@boredhuman6512

6 ай бұрын

@@thahitscan I will thanks

@Blu_Moon_Owl

6 ай бұрын

@@hugocognie1784 is it seraphine or Katarina?

@hugocognie1784

6 ай бұрын

​@@Blu_Moon_Owl It's Sera. Is Kata really that big of a deal ? I never saw Nicky complaining that much about her compared to Sera.

Gwen looking more like a character from a stop motion Tim Burton movie would be so much more interesting! She could still have the starry eyed personality and look pretty human, but more doll-like and mildly creepy.

Maybe this would be overlaping too much with Orianna, but if Riot wanted to have Gwen be more of a human looking doll, they could've made her a porcelain doll or even one of those figures you see spinning in music boxes, since her and Viego have music box motifs in their song. That way instead of giving Gwen the slightest hint at stitching, they could keep her proportions and give her like painted features or ball-jointed limbs to convey her doll-ness

That poor Rell man lol, the Varus was just shitting on her in the chat the whole time :(

@arrow-1237

6 ай бұрын

That’s the life of a support he must be use to it (at least I am 🫠)

I just want Riots to make more monsters. There's so much potential for cool stuff and LOR just proves my point every time they release new cards. We've had our fair share of characters straight out of fashion magazines (Which I don't mind if it was just once in a while)

@Axolotlian

6 ай бұрын

As a huge kaiju fan I 100% agree.

As much as I like Gwen, and I like her a lot (I have played her since release until I had her M7), I have to agree with a lot of the criticism you mention. Yes, she is very much more of the 'anime pretty face' instead of a doll come to life. Her story being wrapped up also doesn't help her case. The scissors make it really difficult for skin design. But I also like the story idea you came up with, the rehabilitation idea sounds honestly great and would love to see it. In any case, keep up the good work Nicky.

I feel like what could have made her a bit more interesting would be if there were damages she received in doll form reflected on her human form. Like the stitching on one of her eyes and/or legs ripped, so now she hops around on one leg or one of her eyes is just blank skin. Just some food for thought.

Like her gameplay. One of the funniest and enjoyable toplaner

@arnejacoby7888

6 ай бұрын

Not if you play against her. GwEn iS ImMuNe

@Mayhem242

6 ай бұрын

I don't like the Kayle matchup, or really any ranged champ that can maneuver away

@Blu_Moon_Owl

6 ай бұрын

Her kit is cool but man when in the right hands, she can shred everyone

@thedebt2525

6 ай бұрын

@@arnejacoby7888 its an 18 second cooldown at max rank. If you cant play around that you probably shouldnt complain about game design.

I started League after Gwen was already in the game and started playing them because I liked the Scissors and her gameplay was fun and goofy. I can see why she may get hate but I enjoy then and there is clear potential for new stories. Maybe she travels to see the world becoming a literally Fairytale Heroine or even trys to help heal the Shadow isle idk just gotta wait for Riot to continue the story. Hmm i think of it like how Leagues Sylas is him at the beginning of his game before his character arc.

A friday Gwen review? I am hyped. Thanks for the content Nickyboi. Do you think they should port the Wild rift prestige skin to PC?

When I heard they were adding a living doll to league I got really excited as I was a huge fan of Mina in Dawngate back in the day. Gwen’s full reveal was painful in how un-doll like she is. If someone didn’t tell you you’d have no idea what she was just by looking at her. God I miss Dawngate’s character design. They knew how to make a sentient doll look awesome.

2:15 I love when you make these dunkey references haha

Once again going to say Viego getting a redemtion arc is an amazing idea. And making Gwen a part of that is a wonderful use of her character. It would be really cool if what ends up happening is after defeating the threat they woke up Viego for (I would like it to be Mordekaiser but that's a different rant) Gwen and Viego return to the shadow Isles, and join Yorick (and Akshan because he needs some relevance) and basically fight the ruination right at its heart, all the while it seems a new Ruined King has taken power... (It's Thresh)

@Underworlder5

6 ай бұрын

normally, i have gotten tired of redemption arcs lately, but it fits viego well. he became a villain because he went insane from losing his wife, and went above and beyond in an effort to get her back. considering he got a massive humbling experience in that isolde hated what he did, and now he has to live with being sealed away for eternity, gaining the animosity of the one person he was trying to help... that might be enough of an experience to make him reconsider is ways

I always had the idea that if people really don’t like the fact that she turns into a human, it would’ve been cool if she had the way Chopper from one piece turns into a human when he needs to, and then goes back to just a little reindeer

Immediately thought of that scene in Kung-fu Panda where they say Po doesn't belong here

I like to think Gwen is wondering around shadow isles, giving the innocent/ damned spirits as a result of the ruination a good time so they can finally be at rest. She perceives them in the form of fractured memories of Isolde’s life. At least that’s what I think LoR made it out to be. A lot of post ruination is Gwen now trying to find a place in the world after Isolde left and asking herself “what now?” which I think is somewhat unique in LoL as there’s not a lot of champions that have done what they were destined to do and not entirely knowing what to do next. Also I 100% think she should’ve been more doll looking. If any direction is needed, look at Alpha from Vainglory. From her animation to character story is being at a crossroads at the thought of living their new life as not quite living. Which is exactly how Gwen should’ve been imo.

I really like Gwenda as a character. But she is also like tailored made for my love of magical girls. I can't play her well worth shit tho. Good video, as always. Even if you are dragging my poor girl through the mud. I also really wanted to do fanart for this week but ran out of time. Hopefully, it will be done by next week. 😅

I love Gwen's design but mostly because of the color palette used for her and her animations. Also the fact that you would not expect her to be this scrappy skirmisher that destroys tanks and 1v9s late game. I do agree that she would have been way better as a doll though, kinda like Oriana but visibly a doll. Also that Soraka redesign is sick and we need it in the game right now

It would've been great if Gwen's final design was like a plushie version of Orianna

Do you think you would have liked Gwen's design more if she looked like a better version of Sewn Chaos Orianna?

I’m waiting for the day you talk about Kayn I’m so happy this series has been going for this long I still have hope 🙏

I started playing League around the time Qwen came out I think, and I remember her being one of the first champions I wanted to try because I love the idea of giant scissors. It gives me huge Kill La Kill vibes and I'm all for that. For that reason I actually wish they would give Qwen a pentakill skin or something along those lines just so she can really drive home the vibe.

In the good universe, riot was making her less creepy doll like because shaco has this role and maybe, in a vgu, he could have something good coming. Maybe he is a shadow isles doll, a rival for gwen or something, she could have a new motivation

Whats interesting to me is im pretty much onboard with your Soraka redesign, but I feel like Shyvanna needs a slimmer and sleek design, only because her current sound effects give off a metallic and sharp feeling of presence which I feel like should be represented in the character design as well

@dekhain3284

6 ай бұрын

My brother in christ is Shyvana was any slimmer, she'd fit into a Paper Mario game

@NovaGN

6 ай бұрын

​@dekhain3284 I was referring to Nicki's redesign of her which if you haven't seen, has her built like Illaoi

It would have been so charming if she looked creepy and aced just as bubbly and sweet as she does. Give her strange felt or hempen skin, give her button eyes and still have her be super sweet that would be so charming. Hell, if they were dead set on her looking like a Genshin Impact character then they should have done something like they did back in Burning Tides with Gangplank, release her with the creepy doll design then by the end of the story have the Hallowed Mist turn her into her current design, making the doll a skin that would have been amazing!

Gwen came out at the height of popularity of Genshin and a ton of gacha games all based around very pretty characters. That most shows in her weird design choices, like Nicky pointed out you cant see her cool X stitch button looking eye or her ghost stitches on her model because they are soo small and dont work for a MOBA top down game design. She was not designed for the game she is in, in mind, she was designed to chase trends at the time. Anything showing her concept as a doll is hidden and all we are left with is a peppy spunky anime girl in a sea of them.

There is a plotline for the tabletop roleplaying game Chronicles of Darkness called Promethean: The Created that explores what it means to be human, and it uses the legends of Frankenstein's monster, Galatea, Tammuz, and a few others as templates for a created human being, not naturally born but supernaturally given sentience. Gwen reminds me of those kinds of stories but without actually exploring humanity

Personally I loved Gwen since she released, but she is one of the biggest victims of Riots tunnel vision and lack of afterthought, the entirety of the Ruination was at its core just "Senna vs Viego" which is why any other champion who got involved with it could have been replaced with a cardboard cutout and nothing would have been changed in the story (just like Wild Rift showed), and in everything Gwen is mentioned she is shown to be caring and compassionate (LITERALLY HER ENTIRE STORY IN SOUL FIGHTERS) yet her kit has just as much ally helping as Dravens, no wait, Draven could push someone away with his E...DRAVEN CAN SUPPORT MORE THAN GWEN. Like make her W give armor and MR to allies in it instead of making her immune to everything and maybe have her passive be able to heal the lowest health ally next to her aswell, Im not saying they should have made her a pure support (especially after the pink cashgrab banshee released), but instead to give her supportive qualities like Shen has. For her design I can understand why Riot didnt make her more doll-like because thats already Oriannas thing (though Riot absolutely dropped with ball with Fright Night where Gwen could have gotten a sick creepy doll skin in the Tim Burton like style) and the fact that her design was clashing so much with the rest of the Shadow Isles was actually making her more intersting, a bit of cheerful humainty in a place which is basically a giant graveyard with her light blues and whites contrasting the green and black (then LoR Mordekaiser came and stole the blues for himself...) And while I really dislike your idea of Gwen trying to redeem Viego (1. I really hate Viego and 2. we dont need to feed into the "i can fix him" delusions some people have), just have her and maybe even Vex aswell stick around with Yorick (GIVE HIM SOMETHING RIOT, ANYTHING, YOU LITERALLY TOOK HIS ONLY PURPOSE AWAY FROM HIM) so they can atleast do something. All in all, in better hands at a better time, Gwen could have been one of the best designed and thought out champs, but Riots flaws in the time of her release (Seraphine) killed a lot of the potential she had, I still love her as a comfort champ

@Sterncold

6 ай бұрын

to make things worse originally her ult was supposed to throw 2 needles at enemy champions and link them together which would have pull them toward each other... which is already more support oriented than her current kit

I think that not every character needs to constantly have something to do. It's fine that Gwen has now basically completed her mission with Viego and now is free to do whatever because the alternative is worse since we are left with a bunch of characters whose story is now that they are going to take down some bad guy or do something bad or whatever and that doesn't go anywhere for years if ever. If we follow the idea that characters can't compete their arcs we are left with tons of unfinished stories that if you ever want to finish you must also immediately find another thing for that character to do in the future which kinda leaves you back at square one with a story that has yet to be told.

As far as design go, i don't mind the human form. I enjoy the spiritual aspects of it with the eyes and blue hair and stuff but i do feel they could have leaned into it more like improve the stitches, add some spiritual flourish, etc.

I kinda agree with you, I love ghostly characters designs either them being creepy, cute, or both, and when I saw Gwen (in that time, I didn’t know anything about lore) I liked very much of the design, but as of now, I do agree that I could’ve been so much better with a doll like approach

Can you do some analysis on their champion music aswell? For example i might be reading too much into this but ornns these mimicks his story of him singing it alone in the beginning, multiple voices joining the chorus in the middle and orrn being alone again at the end

OK if gwen takes the idea of 'haunted doll' from shaco and the black market merchant is selling his mask then how about when they rework him he could be like a cursed mask or something possessing its host

I cant wait till seraphine casual champ review, its either gonna be roasting seraphine for 10 minutes or a 10 seconds video that just says no

it would have been really cool if throughout the course of the game she becomes more human like, kind of like a kayle style transformation where the state we see her in as default would be like her final form but she would start out a lot more doll like and then she could have some kind of scaling passive and when you reached certain checkpoints she became more human like

I love Gwen. She's a magical girl oc come to life using her girly powers and innocence to fight against some of the most horrifying and evil threats in Runeterra, directly paralleling Viego, which I really like.

Kinda related to Gwen. Considering Riot wants to make Arcane canon and to do so they are going to rewrite a lot of lore they have the opportunity to fix the SoL story. They can make all those sentinel skins in to what ifs (except Vayne and Graves but make him a better motive like saving his husband perhaps) and rewrite Gwen, Akshan and Viego (Vex I think is cool the way she is right now). I really REALLY hope Riot takes that opportunity and make the Ruination good and add unique Sentinels that aren't just bastardized versions of champions

I like Gwen, but I would LOVE her to be more doll-like. At the very least button eyes, even if just one like a pseudo eyepatch

I like Gwanda. I played her a few times on top and had lot of fun.

As someone who played nothing but monster characters for top lane mains, I actually like Gwen as a breath of fresh air. I play cho gath, mundo, sion, nasus, volibear, rumble, and so on. So to have a melee pretty girl is fun and different. I completely agree though about how they did her story was wrong.

one thing I think is kind of funny is when he says that gwen or briar feel like someones oc put into the game and I've thought about which ones would fit in league and there are only 2 that I would actually think could find a way in being the spiritual brawler and the vampiric seductress being ionian and noxian respectively

the fact that i can watch this video while muted and still find it entertaining because of that varus is fascinating to me

I am a Gwen main so I'm incredibly biased but I will say I agree with you on a lot of points. My biggest complaint with how they handled Gwen was that if she was made to be the counterpart to Viego its unfair how her entire story and arc is focused around him without him being focused around her which is what makes it feel weak and fall flat, is that without Viego, her story doesn't exist but without Gwen, Viego's story is just fine. But as you mentioned her aesthetic just sits well with me at first I hated her gameplay but grew to love it as I got better at the game (and I only play her Jungle now cause Top sucks)

I like how the video just constantly smash cut into either you barely alive or dead

Gwen’s design is a guilty pleasure of mine but I understand your point of view and I see her flaws. However, the thing that could have done Gwen so much better is to give her short stories of her trying to find her place in the Runeterra world, her finding a new objective in life and a constant evolution of her character could make her my cup of tea personally.

I recommend checking the design of Kosodenote from the Moba Onmyoji Arena, similar theme as Gwen but a much better design in my opinion.

At least with the eventual void event they seem to be releasing things overtime that will eventually set forth the event as opposed to just throwing it all in at once

While your idea of a Viego rehabilitation is a good idea… Riot would 1000% fumble it. They’d try to hamfist some creepy love story or somethin. Like, “She’s like a thousand years old and has the soul of a grown woman in her so it’s ok lmaooooo” is what their excuse would be. It would be Briar all over again.

I may be mixing up when things happened in my head but I want to say part of what led to Gwen's design choice was the fact that at the time the Kpop/Kdrama scene was going through a massive boom in popularity. As I said it may be me mixing up when stuff happened but I somewhat remember her release was around the time fancams were really going around. Obviously champs are in the oven for a lot longer then trends but I do know that trends can affect design choices and league isn't immune to that.

i love how you're just monologuing while your varus is having a temper tantrum

I want to hit on something Nickyboi said and that is if Gwen released earlier she would have been considered a good design. I do believe that is true but because that is true i think a distinction has to be made that acknowledges the reason people dislike her design is because it was done before. I don't agree with that but it would be more honest. I personally think her design is bad because it doesn't show her as a doll come to life.

Ngl, when I first saw Gwen, my only thought was "interesting eye design". But after learning her story, it's like... Yeah, it could be so much unique and interesting... Eh, China likes anime designs

I think they they could easily find something to do with all new ruination champs and i don't think it'd be that difficult either. Gwen could do a viego redemption arc or hang out with yorick. Akshan can go back to shurima and theres so many opportunities there, or he can do a world tour. Or put him in bilgewater. I think he could fun there especially since his whole thing is stopping 'scoundrels' why not put him where there are a buncb of those. Sure their initial arcs have concluded, but that doesnt mean they still cant pursue their initial motivation. Gwen can still seek to live her one life to the fullest and akshan can keep being batman

Veigo Redemption Arc would be coll maybe add shaco into it so one doll is the devil on viegos shopder and Gwen is the angel on the other

I wonder, what rating would you give the first few champs that didn’t get a ~/10 rating?

Before I read the lore of Ruination when I first saw Gwen I assumed that she was a villain, way to bright colors and happy disposition, she looked too out of place in the event for her to be a good guy. (also reminded me of Nui from kill la kill, very similar designs)

Ruination book is actually really enjoyable. Would recommend it for more lore.

It's sad that the closest we have of a living doll is a oriana skin.

I like the shade of blue they use for Gwen

Can't wait for Taliyah... too bad I'm probably gonna be dead by then

@ea8455

4 ай бұрын

You ded yet

Thanks for the video 😊

13:25 My man has been reading every comment on his videos, AND he plays League professionally?! Get a blood-sample, he's immune to toxicity!

My guess on why Gwen isn't more doll-like is probably because we already have Orianna filling the role. Granted she's a robot, but girl with a crafted form by a parental figure is already taken. I do think it would be cool though if Gwen looked more like Herta from Honkai star rail, with the doll joints on her limbs.

i thought of the idea of rehabilitation and thought "wow rehabilitation of viego is a nice idea and he can become a champion in league after that" and then i remember he already is LOL

I started playing league 2-3 years right on ruination and was amazed by gwen's... hair. now i have 50k mastery 7 because of funny blue hair.

I very much agree with the majority of what you said, and I would love for Gwen to have had more unique visual design and storytelling. The weird thing is though that she's somehow still my favorite champ by far and I have no clue why :D She just scratches the brain good

@nunyabiznes7446

6 ай бұрын

Well there's a reason genshin's character designs make a bajillion dollars each year

@celeste4034

6 ай бұрын

@@nunyabiznes7446 gwen came out 3 years before genshin

@hotroden4439

6 ай бұрын

​@@celeste4034 Does he know?

Gwen feels more like a character from Genshin or the like rather than a character from league

I like the skins and lore around Gwens skins...

I really like Gwanda's design, and I think its easier to appreciate her design if you judge it on its own merits and not on the merits of other champs or the event she was released during. Part of it probably is that she's just aesthetically pleasing to me but if you isolate Gwen from the rest of the game I think it does "doll-brought-to-life" trope really well. I mean that from a purely design standpoint as well, I think her character communicates what she is even if you don't know her lore. Then again I'm always a sucker for the "weapon thats way too big for the character wielding it" trope so maybe I'm blinded by that idk.

If people knew that gwen had a big secret , a riot employee made a short on it , its called "gwen reveals her big secret " its really interesting

God, I agree with most of what you're saying but I couldn't focus, just watching that Varius go goblin mode made it impossible to focus on anything

Oh yeah btw, I do enjoy your Soraka design. But the location of the origin of her vastayan body, does not allow for unfitness. So, though her being bigger looks really cute. I dont think it matches the location of Targon. Where one has to climb entire mountains and cliffs just to visit some magic goats. If she was from a more modern location like Zaun or Noxus, then she might be able to have extra weight. But I dont believe that would be a possibility, lorewise. In Targon. :D

13:10 (Champions as OC's) Briar. She may fit in the universe somewhat cause they made her story around it but like come on. I was so hope for this monstrous vampire made beast champion and then we just get *FEET* and pretty face. Massive disappointment on that end for me. I think her stories interesting for sure but bimbo-fication of a character seemingly because August wanted a loli vampire, and by god hes gonna get one, kinda ruined the rest of the champ for me personally.

For me, shyv should have some skin texture in her body, like sn arm or part of the face, this way she could blend between humans and the dragon transformation should be wilder and bigger and spikier and… you get the point, and also half the women should be buffier, i mean, look at vi, she my girl but i feel i could break her like a stick in the original splashart

I think Dawngate did a good job at a doll character. She had more of a bitter im better then everyone personality but not to a point you hated it. It played like yumme but with more interaction

They basically gave Gwen old Irelia ult, an ult famous for being whatever as fuck.

I kinda feel like gwen has overshadowed orianna too; especially after nickyboi brought up the Pinocchio point. The whole doll motif could have been so much better :[

Gwen with a Sewn Chaos aesthetic would be cool

As a gwanda enjoyer i understand your point of view,i used to be like you but she gree on me P.S gwen jungle is vailble and some times meta and better than toplane

Soul fighter Gwen is one of the Skins/Character designs Riot has ever put out. Everything else about gwen, I could take it or leave it. I like your idea of gwen helping to redeem Viego but I'd like to take it one step further and her interact with shaco as being the only too dolls inthe game.

Gwen's Cafe Cuties skin does a better job at being a doll of a young girl better then her base skin. And her entite kit is everything I ever wanted on Morde, specifically her ults slow and not having to rely on a coriagraphed skill shot to engage an enemy.

if u think about her story and realize how old Gwen must be if Isolde made her, and in her reveal trailer she was kinda under water: they could have made such a cool, rotten, old and stitched together doll character, who is barely holding on to that piece of Isoldes soul

nickyboi when anime LMAO (i get ur reasoning tho)

Despite creating my account back in like 2016, I started actively playing league in 2020 due to friends, so I am very much a league zoomer so I was used to champion releases usually being sexy guys/gals. Personally, I like Gwen, she's fun to play, I like her design, and I really like her character. I have no issue with the whole "anime" aesthetic, despite me thinking league's "anime" champions are quite tame in that regard, however I understand people's frustrations with her due to league's current landscape at the time especially since you and others were used to getting designs such as Asol, Jhin, Ivern, Kled, etc. But I don't really care about league's whole "design" discourse with the exception being Kai'Sa. She's fun to play but man I have to agree with people when it comes to her design, "I'm a monster" my ass (or her ass in this case). Also I agree with Viego and Gwen getting some kind of father daughter relationship. Viego is a broken man at this point and him having a redemption arc with Gwen seems cute and fitting due to Gwen being the last thing Viego has left of Isolde. Also I like calling her Gweg

She is a Pinocchio that actually came to life. I really like her design but she needs a purpose. Legends of Runeterra gave her a bit but I think she needs something like a story. If you think about her as a creation of a little girl, she makes sense

Hasn't thresh taken on the power of the black mist? Yorick, viego, and Gwen could go after him

i love her because she reminds me of Alice Liddell, i wish she was creepier tho.

Anyway the way I want Gwen’s character to go is one of two ways Playing off your father-daughter idea, I want her to interact with Vex as a sort of sister dynamic, hell add Viego for some really good broken family stuff Or Shaco interactions please save both of these characters

Yorick's Casual Champion Review is on March 6, 2026 sry nickyboi you will have to wait