AMD save PC master race. with amd gone Nvidia will be monopoly

@marchinghurdler

7 жыл бұрын

They took back 10% of the market since last year. So it seems the 400 series and their huge software overhaul has really appealed to gamers.

@Jamie95C

7 жыл бұрын

Not really, most people wont buy a CPU before the holidays anymore considering both Intel and AMD are releasing their new line of CPUs in the first quarter of 2017

@Jrock420blam

7 жыл бұрын

AMD cpu's are looking more and more disappointing as the benchmarks keep leaking. Lets hope the Vega GPUs are actually highend instead of cheap budget cards like the 480.

@leonmozambique533

7 жыл бұрын

Raul Serrano zen take intel monaploy away!

@modi3897

7 жыл бұрын

Looks like the zen will peform like the skylake line .

I love AMD, I love Nvidia, I love Intel, they are all important Why can't we get along people ?

@lees4049

7 жыл бұрын

Pixelsandwich same here but I like AMD a bit better for the value :)

@Simon74

7 жыл бұрын

Pixelsandwich I like their Products, but Intel and Nvidia are acting like cunts.

@rrook88

7 жыл бұрын

me quad sli setup 2k power supply says otherwise.

@mr.tomatohead5648

7 жыл бұрын

Pixelsandwich exactly! all this new hardware is so good at great prices. I buy pretty much equally from both companies. great time to be a pc gamer.

@mr.tomatohead5648

7 жыл бұрын

Mattnel hopefully Zen makes them relevant in the cpu market again. Intel could use a kick in the butt too.

Benchmarks move way too fast. Then you switch their position whenever one performs better. Slow it down and keep all the cards in the same spot so people don't get confused goddamn

@HardwareCanucks

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Will take into account for future graphs.

@KeyserSoeze

7 жыл бұрын

and either increase of decrease the volume of the song in the backround, as it is now its so low its only annoying.

@KeyserSoeze

7 жыл бұрын

but the rest was very nice done! :)

@jasonking1284

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. The charts need to stay up for longer. At last, I can say Radeons are better. Next, I am hoping to say AMD Zen is better.....

@Myselfsama

7 жыл бұрын

Honestly, its marginally better, and still at a worse price point. I picked up a MSI 1060 6gb gaming for $230 during a sale. Its incredibly efficient, with the fans actually being off 100% of the time when I'm not gaming. And only ever reaching about 50% speed while under load/gaming which is still inaudible. I dont know how AMD is doing in regards to their power efficiency, and heat, but they are gonna have to win on all fronts before people start making a switch. Clear better benchmarks, clear less heat, low noise, AND have working drivers that can compete at launch.

AMD cards get better over time over the drivers. Nothing new here this was to be expected. History repeats it self again like it did with the r9 290x and gtx 780ti. 780ti has fallen so much behind that it's rediculous almost 25%...

@snowzZzZz

7 жыл бұрын

Nvidia seems to spend money on maintaining cards just long enough for benchmarks to come out, and for maintaining that performance throughout the majority of it's spotlight. Once support isn't worth their money, they just repeat the process with whatever card they're currently focused on. If you upgrade every year, Nvidia isn't a bad choice; although, AMD has longevity on it's side, and still very comparable performance at launch. Unfortunately lots of people don't factor in long term, and AMD suffers becasue of this. I wish they could get their drivers figured out earlier, and make it easier for themselves.

@Diglo1

7 жыл бұрын

Currently AMD is focusing 80% of their software engineers on Vega drivers so those should perform very well at launch.

@joejack714

6 жыл бұрын

BlackSn0wz z

@plasmahvh

6 жыл бұрын

But AMD isn't perfect either. Their drivers are really bad, if you didn't have R9 290X don't say anything. R9 290X burnt my PC. E.g 1070 is scoring extremely good at DX12 and VULKAN. while vulkan is abandoned. Doom 2016 is the only game that uses VULKAN. AMD cards are aging very well, and 780Ti and 780 are KEPLER. Very old architecture, since basically no one haves them, they are more focused on MAXWELL. And you are talking about that AMD is perfect, they aren't even close to perfect, their drivers are bad since they bough ATI. With 290X I couldn't play games for 1 hour without several driver crashing. It was consuming 300 Watts 90c was optimal temperature, while on idle it was about 60. Even bought water cooling but when on gaming with water cooling it was 112 and my PC just turned off. I was so scared, and card burnt. They didn't want to apply my warranty too. MAXWELL is old 4 years, still great support. First KEPLER was released 2009. Well for a PC gamer, it's optimal to change every 3-4 years to a new GPU and possibly CPU. NVIDIA is more reliable in my opinion, since R9 290X really pissed me of. Right now I have R7 250 and here we go again AMD Driver has stopped working. DAMN!

@plasmahvh

6 жыл бұрын

+BlackSn0wz No, with NVIDIA you don't need to upgrade every year. NVIDIA + INTEL is well known for a optimal gaming PC. While AMD is more cheaper, but you get what you payed for: Really HIGH TDP and they run pretty hot. For R9 290X staying below 100 is safe.

im an nvidia fan but it looks like the future belongs to AMD

@Namaka101

7 жыл бұрын

This is very good for competition. finally AMD starts to fight back.

@jlmnop1321

7 жыл бұрын

Ruben Taribuka Now all we have to do is wait for a decent CPU competitor, then we'll have a very nice competition, which will bring performance up and prices down.

@Namaka101

7 жыл бұрын

+jacob thomas not only that but get some excitement back in pc components. personally i like AMD but love to see how intel and nvidia react, let the giants sweat and bring back the leaps in developments.

@heman248

7 жыл бұрын

I have read this comment since the 4770. Competition is good but amd is not even trying.

@IsaandAli

7 жыл бұрын

Ruben Taribuka agree with you. Without AMD nvidia would spike those already bloated prices for their gpus whenever they want. Competition is always good for the customers. I laugh when i read comments from fanboys of NVIDIA or AMD when without one or the other we would be paying more. AMD is vital to keep prices low and benefit the customers

RX 480 because G-Sync is Greed-Sync.

@chaosy169

7 жыл бұрын

DragonKingGaav True, that's why I hate my 1070, should've waited for rx 490 etc.

@applexjack9136

7 жыл бұрын

well nivida did release fastsync with need no special display and is free plus they added to the 900 cards with talks to adding to older cards. it works pretty well

@killerfugu2659

7 жыл бұрын

It was also a lot better at launch and just better overall. The pricing does give AMD a selling point there, but atm they have no GPU's to spend that saved money on. Can save £100 on a 1440p 144hz by going AMD, but still be stuck with a 480 thanks to no high end cards, gonna be a lot better soon when the 490 launches (as long as it's not another stupid dual GPU like 295x2)

@VeyronBD

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it kinda sucks, I'm really wanting to upgrade and really the only thing that is in my price range and something I want is the gtx 1070. AMD still hasnt got a card out that is comparable. I'm looking at the 490 but it better be a single card. I may have to wait until Vega for that though...

@killerfugu2659

7 жыл бұрын

Yea I'm looking at building a new rig atm, one for my Fiancee, And the 480 is okay at 1440p but would love something a bit better without looking at last gen stuff. a 490 for less than a 1070 would seal the deal and make me get that and a freesync panel.

no worries people will still buy GTX 1060 because it has an NVIDIA logo instead of AMD.

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

sad really !!

@sanmattew7221

7 жыл бұрын

Eric Tan but it really us better. Its much cooler performs overall better, runs much more efficient, has more features and its still the same price as the rx 480.

@jorty7178

7 жыл бұрын

Eric Tan Im going to go with the 1060 just because I have an Nvidia shield and can stream games to it if I have an Nvidia card

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

San Mattew sorry mate have to completely disagree there

@EricTanGH0ST

7 жыл бұрын

NeoProHex Im not sure how the NVIDIA shield works. So it requires your PC to play or something ? I thought the NVIDIA shield is streamed through their servers or something?

FINALLY! Someone did a revisit of the RX 480. AMD's GCN has always aged better than Nvidia's competing architectures. Anyone remember when the R9 290 and 290X came out in 2013? That thing lost to the GTX 780 Ti. Now the GTX 780 Ti isn't even anywhere near them. Same goes for the GTX 970, which was actually faster than the R9 390 at launch. A year later, the R9 390 is comfortably beating the GTX 970 -- and it's funny because the R9 390 is basically a rebranded R9 290. lmao

@TheActualTed

7 жыл бұрын

It's funny because it's true :D

@brandonjasso902

7 жыл бұрын

Actually I remember the 390 always beating the 970.

@shiro5811

7 жыл бұрын

Say I go for a Sapphire RX 480 NITRO, will a Corsair VS 650 PSU be able to run this card with no problem? Can anyone recommend me other PSUs(about the same range as Corsair VS 650)?

@TheActualTed

7 жыл бұрын

Even 500W should be enough, depends on other specs too, tho. But if you have newer Intel then you're ok with 500

@shiro5811

7 жыл бұрын

@Teddy Kozub I have an AMD A10-7850K APU, what'd you think? The others are pretty average gears.

these percentages are nice to see for AMD but I still think freesync is the best selling point. I'd go for AMD regardless even if they are slower 5% because of freesync. The fact they are faster is just a plus.

@ZR1Gamer

7 жыл бұрын

Mario D. Zmaj Also AMD's Superior drivers are worth it.

@vespaman101

7 жыл бұрын

thats something i thought id' never hear lol. im not sure if they are superior but i definitely think they are now competitive

@Biskawow

7 жыл бұрын

vespaman0 since I got my 390 and now with Fury, I never had issues with drivers. IDK but it might just be a meme, like how they say a 390 will burn your house down, crap people repeat, nothing else. (I never had issues with GTX either, apart from some black screens occasionally and message "display driver stopped working)

@vespaman101

7 жыл бұрын

Mario D. Zmaj i used to get that display driver issue on an old laptop i had that had nvidia graphics. it wasn't a gaming laptop or anything but it sure could run a playstation emulator lol.

@ikhsanhasbi657

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Freesync is just freaking good because it's available on all price range. I got myself a 200$ IPS panel with freesync few months ago and it's great. A comparable monitor with gsync would probably cost 500$.

Boy I got hell when i recommend the rx480 called a fanboy and nasty things i told them that the 1060 is not worth the buy. Prices per performance

@lees4049

7 жыл бұрын

Alejandro Rubio shills will be shills

@Ben01tM

7 жыл бұрын

Alejandro Rubio IMO Both cards are great and the only thing that laid me towards nvidia was price at that moment.

@HardStyler3

7 жыл бұрын

but with freesync you save 150 bucks :D

@BraydenN55

7 жыл бұрын

Axiomatic the gtx 1060 can overclock to 2.2ghz lol mines at 2.2 and the memory is at 9.2

@6zmmz6

7 жыл бұрын

What gtx 1060 do you have? I have msi gaming x model. My max oc is 2.1ghz cant get it higher and memory 9.5ghz.

One of the main reasons I keep watching your videos is the beautiful photography that shows you really spend a lot of time to get to look as good as it does. Keep it up!

amazingly informative. been struggling with the new gpu for 1080p for a bit and I think you just gave me an answer.

It's not Deuce Ex, it's Deus Ex. Hi, Eber.

@anthonys.3871

7 жыл бұрын

nimrodery Day- Us Ex

@HShango

7 жыл бұрын

nimrodery lel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@nimrodery

7 жыл бұрын

***** With the dude's ex?

@nimrodery

7 жыл бұрын

Herve Shango Dewed eggs.

@HShango

7 жыл бұрын

nimrodery dewed semen juice?

So basically I should have bought an RX 480

@linusmlgtips2123

7 жыл бұрын

Delta X yes

@varshoee

7 жыл бұрын

No, you can't say one card is better based on just one review. It really depends on what games you play the most. some games are better on GTX 1060 and some others on RX 480. For example if in this video instead of Call of duty : IW they would have benchmarked Mafia 3 or Watch dogs 2 or Civilization IV you would see completely opposite result from this test.

@YouMothaY

7 жыл бұрын

Delta X I had an HD 7870 and damn that thing was hot, still love It though. Now i have a gtx 1060 and It performs awesome and temps are always between 40-50°C. But i don't hate AMD.

@soapcutter3302

7 жыл бұрын

Delta X trust me you made a good purchase, just wait for Nvidia to develop new software that decrease performance don't worry your card will only slightly be affected whilst Amd cards will get a huge performance decrease

Rather correct and useful comparison with clear conclusions. Keep up this good work! Thank you

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I was looking for for exactly this

Why are yall so supprised? Mid range cards allways belonged to AMD. R9 390 was better thant the 970 R9 380 was better than the 960 R7 370 was better than the 950

@MrImachickenlol

7 жыл бұрын

300 series was also a generation ahead of the first gen 900 series?

@Tpecep

7 жыл бұрын

7970 better than 960 ;D

@amixreckless6118

7 жыл бұрын

Tpecep yeah cause 7970=280X=380 xD

@ThePhilip320

7 жыл бұрын

GTX 1060 is better than RX 480 GTX 1050 TI is better than RX 460 GTX 1050 is better than RX 460 And there is no point buying RX 470 because GTX 1060 3GB is just like $20 difference. Nvidia wins, and IT is more test that prove Gtx 1060 is better than RX 480

@user-wh3rz6qn4c

7 жыл бұрын

People with a minecraft avatar are not able to comment. Stupid nvidia fanboy

I'd get the 480 for an obvious reason - I own a Freesync monitor :) Really glad to see the red team becoming more competitive! A pleasure to behold.

@Bob-np9no

7 жыл бұрын

foreign's gaming tech also the long run

@rrook88

7 жыл бұрын

yep only thing good about current radeon cards.

@1alexnewman

7 жыл бұрын

foreign's gaming tech I was going to get a Nitro RX480, however I have a 780ti that comes with geforce experience which has the instant replay feature and recording and twitch streaming features, stuff I love to have an use. Team Red doesn't have anything like those.

@BraydenN55

7 жыл бұрын

foreign's gaming tech free sync is that good lol

@destrierofdark_

7 жыл бұрын

Check ReLive.

Thank you guys for this video, very important follow up!

Thank you for helping me make my decision for my next video card. Didn't know exactly which way to go, but you cleared it up for me and made it more simple with clear and simple benchmarks.

Haven't watched the video but can already say that rx480 beats 1060🤔

@thedandi8905

7 жыл бұрын

Toptweek you are correct

@kazzz2765

7 жыл бұрын

I regret having bought 1060

@pappi8338

7 жыл бұрын

Toptweek i dont. shadowplay is my life

@davidlee9812

7 жыл бұрын

Kepler Born amd just released Relive... shadowplay for amd cards :) welcome to the team.

@SavageArms357

7 жыл бұрын

AMD just announced they will be releasing an alternative to shadowplay (Not Plays.TV). You can read more about it here: www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5gui45/amd_will_enclude_a_shadowplaylike_feature_win/

It happened sooner than I thought, but typically AMD cards get better over time and have a longer lifespan (from performance standpoint). But my choice is clear cause it's what I run already RX 480 8GB. Now if i got some extreme deal on a Fury or a 1070 I'd upgrade. But really 480 is a nice card.

@Biskawow

7 жыл бұрын

me too, I took it over 480, the performance is great for the money

@vespaman101

7 жыл бұрын

word i got two Fury X's for a total of 500 bucks... i may be selling them soon...

@dannyfu2902

7 жыл бұрын

1TerraHertz where did you find that? I look at eBay, but all I see are greedy people selling used Fury at similar price to launch price.

@vespaman101

7 жыл бұрын

Danny Fu well if it drops that low it disappears fast i'd assume.

@wildzuzhau7976

7 жыл бұрын

Sequiro i use fury OC i gorgeous and for price it's really a beast for me 1070 is not worth extra bucks I buy mu fury nitro for only 250$ amazing card

Awesome vid. Thanks for the info!!

thanks for the update, was very useful.

My Rx 480 Nitro+ only fits in my case BECAUSE of the rear connector, it would be too wide if it had the connector on the side (just a side note)(In win 901)

@STR33TSofJUST1C3

7 жыл бұрын

Wow, pretty case. Clearly something to show off.

@kevo05s

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/8NJV3C Here's the PC part picker link if you're curious ;)

@STR33TSofJUST1C3

7 жыл бұрын

Kevo05sGaming I love that "Tempered glass" warning sticker, though.

@kevo05s

7 жыл бұрын

Juli1405a - Those are canadian prices...

@kevo05s

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Damn you AMD! Hurry up with the 490, and 490X already!!!! AARGGHHH!!!!

@BattlesuitBoBos

7 жыл бұрын

They "might" show us some new gpu on the 13th :) Also, there was an unidentified AMD card that came up in the ashes of singularity database; it was on par with a gtx 1080 and the interesting thing was that the benchmarks didn't mention crossfire being used.

@MadMexism

7 жыл бұрын

Mischief Minion Thanks for the heads up! damn i cant wait!!! I really hope AMD brings it this time around. the 480 cards did damn well man!!

@ch3rok33jo3

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I am definitely also looking forward to a 490 or 490X haha

@Biskawow

7 жыл бұрын

I bet 490 gonna trade blows with 1070 and 490x gonna come close to 1080

@ch3rok33jo3

7 жыл бұрын

Mario D. Zmaj 490 matches 1080 and will eventually surpass it. 490X will surpass it out of the box. 1080ti will be required after that. That's how these Nvidia/AMD chess matches go.

Awesome video man, I was already leaning towards the 480 nitro because of Dx12 & Vulcan, but this just reinforces my decision even more.

Really good, tight review, thanks!

as a gtx 1070 owner i can say im very happy for AMD improvements. COmpetition is a good thing. Next time i hope they will tackle the high end market aswell

@someone-wi4xl

7 жыл бұрын

Vega is coming very soon with HBM2 and better efficiently AMD is coming back to the high end market even stronger rumors say it would be able to beat the 1070 and 1080 with cheap (relatively) prices

@edoardostefaninmustacchi2232

7 жыл бұрын

thing is its too late in my opinion. I made my purchase and so did many people. We will now be looking at the next generations of card. Would have made more sense to make VEGA come out around october to still be relevant enough to compete with higher end christmas sales.

@Chibling

7 жыл бұрын

You made the right choice given the timing. I am planning an all AMD build for next summer, buying parts that are not currently even available lol.

@someone-wi4xl

7 жыл бұрын

Edoardo Titto i wouldn't even consider the RX cards and 10 series cards a generation to be honest HBM 2 is where it's at .. the true next generation of cards which is going to start in few months with Vega those that were patient will be rewarded of course

@edoardostefaninmustacchi2232

7 жыл бұрын

what makes you say so? out of curiosity, i decided to jump on this gen train because it felt like a pretty big leap compared to the 700 900. Any links on these promises, beside Vega for AMD

The 480 is the winner here, it got freesync..But it got something that the 1060 dont have. CF ! Getting another 480 when this one start to fall back (prices would already be down) is a viable option, and will bring more juice :)

@kasianvh

7 жыл бұрын

Mr. Jesus well the 1060 has g-sync and streaming and shadowplay so what is yout point?

@josephredaud6479

7 жыл бұрын

Kasian crossfire

@kasianvh

7 жыл бұрын

Joseph Redaud sli...

@josephredaud6479

7 жыл бұрын

Kasian sli is not possible with 1060

@kasianvh

7 жыл бұрын

Joseph Redaud oh lol you're right but i wouldn't recommend sli and crossfire unless you have a high end pc

awesome video thanks guys!

loved this video man thank you!

No XFX RX 480 GTR? That's a shame

@ShermanStrike

7 жыл бұрын

Walt Kowalski The Red Devil has a terrible PCB. Besides, the GTR can reach 1600mhz no problems

@kleinhaas137

7 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't reach 1600Mhz no problems, it would be insane if it did. 1400 is pretty manageable with the GTR and still offers a very strong performance boost. I also would have liked to see that in this video ^^

@ianresonance

7 жыл бұрын

bruh, I think you're referring to the HIS RX 480 HAHA

@ShermanStrike

7 жыл бұрын

mistermaximal Would you like a video on it? (it's over 2h)

@ShermanStrike

7 жыл бұрын

Ian Arriola Nope, the Red Devil has a PCB which isnt that good. It's not bad, dont get me wrong, but it's not good either.

1360mhz overclock on my nitro rx 480 plus. This thing is a 1080p savage.

@TheySeeMeTrollen

7 жыл бұрын

my reference gets to 1350. are you sure that's your max overclock?

@Xmoto16

7 жыл бұрын

It gets hot and unstable if i go any higher

@Xmoto16

7 жыл бұрын

It will post 1450 but its unreliable as shit

@TheySeeMeTrollen

7 жыл бұрын

is it heat or power? which bios you using?

@Xmoto16

7 жыл бұрын

Not sure on bios. I just plugged it in and i use msi afterburner. It gets up to 85 c and 141 watts on the 1450 setting.

Very good idea, hope to see more videos like this.

I was two seconds away from buying a 1060,in my amazon cart ready to click, decided to google it, and now after this video im going with the rx480.

@apieceofcrap8794

7 жыл бұрын

I was ganna buy a gtx 960, saw the 380 for 30$$ cheaper. did some research, bought 380 instead. love fine wine tech

@deadmeme9945

7 жыл бұрын

i was gonna buy a gtx 760, saw the 280 cheaper. did some research, bought 280 instead. love fine wine tech

@GeraltOfRivia99

7 жыл бұрын

i was ggonna buy the gtx 760 then compared it to the r9 280x.... already knew that nvidia jews there customers and saw that the r9280x performs better and its cheaper bought that instead.

@deadmeme9945

7 жыл бұрын

i was gonna buy a gtx 660, saw the 180 cheaper. did some research, bought 180 instead. love fine wine tech

@deadmeme9945

7 жыл бұрын

i was gonna buy a gtx 560, saw the 080 cheaper. did some research, bought 080 instead. love fine wine tech

Wish every site would review cards after a few months... great job!

Hi, this was a nice video topic, but i really did not appreciate the way you made those charts. if you could just keep the order of the cards as priority over the descending value of results, it would make the charts so much easier to read. as of now, anyone genuinely interested would need to pause and analyse each chart. please do try to be more consistent in your chart making.

@daehxxiD

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@johnprice482

7 жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly

@shawcobra

7 жыл бұрын

Pausing for each graph is a little tedious yes but it wasn't a huge issue for myself but i do understand what you're saying. Color coding the graph would be better in my opinion.

lol I clicked the video just because it was in my box and then I asked my self, why am I watching this I have a 1080FTW on water, and then I say, ah whatever the content is good. That's just how well organized and entertaining these videos are. Keep up the good work.

I never comment on youtube videos, but wow this channels is skyrocketing in the quality department. Keep it up guys!

BLESS AMD! I WAS LOSING FAITH IN YOU PAPA RED, BUT YOU HAVE REGAINED MY FAITH.

xfx rx 480, is better than the nitro... and I think cheaper....soo.. yeah no brainer there

@kionera96

7 жыл бұрын

msi's design is ugly af though

@HAWKONER

7 жыл бұрын

I'm getting 2.

@chucuflu

7 жыл бұрын

nice

@louisarius9672

7 жыл бұрын

Try the STRIX :D

@chucuflu

7 жыл бұрын

already watch the benchmarcs, Xfx is more stable

Thanks!! This video was brilliant

This is the best review of two cards I've ever seen, hands down. Subbed.

@HardwareCanucks

7 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel :D

Why do AMD fanboys act like if they were in the same position as intel or nvidia AMD wouldn't be doing the same? All the products have a place in the PC industry. hoping an entire company to be gone is stupid. Do you want a monopoly where no progress is made and driven up prices? Seriously stop fanboying buy which one i the best for you

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

the first part of your comment made no sense

@RaphYkun

7 жыл бұрын

yeaaah, AMD would probably do the same thing, but they aren't in that position and as you said in the part 2 of your statement, monopolies aren't good for anybody so maybe supporting the underdog in a tie is the way to go. (also on the first point, it might just be a PR thing, but AMD has traditionally favored Open platforms more than NVidia and it is possible that if they owned the market, they would still do so which puts them in a better spot than NV if you're looking at it that way.)

@oh3831

7 жыл бұрын

hello walkman it does make sense in this context. People are saying how nividia and intel are jerks who are trying to milk their leadership. But AMD would do the same if they were in the same spot. In fact they did do this when AMD was the leader in CPUs

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

Orange Hachet well currently amd needs all the support they can get..

@oh3831

7 жыл бұрын

hello walkman amd needs to step it up too. and i am glad they are.

30 dollar premium versus what premium with Gsync vs Freesync monitors?

@applexjack9136

7 жыл бұрын

GTX1060 also has fastsync witch has no need to have a special monitor and works pretty dam well

@newH0pe

7 жыл бұрын

which is nothing, but driver forced tripple buffered vsync. A lot of games support it already and if you use borderless widowed mode, it's always active (enforced by Windows).

@applexjack9136

7 жыл бұрын

Florian triple buffer vsync acts completely different than fastsync. triple buffer vsync a ton more latency then fastsync triple buffer will still hold off on rendering a new frame until the front one is scan while fast sync will keep rendering frame before the front buffer

@Ditch901

7 жыл бұрын

Freesync is basically becoming a standard so there is almost no reason not to get it. Also it's awesome, absolutely love it.

@Ditch901

7 жыл бұрын

Professional Geek I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Please could you elaborate?

sorry if this is a noob question, but im planning to do a budget build and im gonna go with the sapphire nitro 4gb variant. I was just wondering if i would get the same results as the 8gb variant?

I use Nvidia GeForce experience a lot, but it seems the RX480 has a better price/performance ratio. If I find something similar to GeForce experience that is compatible with AMD GPUs then I'll go with the RX480.

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

amd's crimson is really good. + amd are releasing a recording utility called radeon relive..

@Z0MGH4X

7 жыл бұрын

hello walkman are they free?

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

Z0MG H4X of course! as long as you own AMD gpu

@Z0MGH4X

7 жыл бұрын

hello walkman thx for the info!

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

Z0MG H4X no problem :)

Er, there were several slip ups with this video. The 1060 6G base retail price is 250, not 260 @2:04, and card selection for the comparison is a little bit... amateur. While the results are only slightly affected, you're comparing less comparable cards than is sensible for "solving the dispute". A single-fan GTX 1060 that costs more than a PNY dual-fan card (meaning greater performance out of the box with the new GPU Boost) being compared to what's pretty widely considered one of the best examples of the RX480? This lack of forethought in the selection is troubling. I appreciate all the work that went into this comparison, but mentioning pricing and availability as seemingly an afterthought in budget-oriented cards, and then comparing totally different styles of coolers between the two potentially mucking up average performance results is problematic, especially when some of these results are so close. I'd love to see a revised video (or article) with these issues solved, but it's probably more work for you guys than you consider to be worth it. Like I said, I appreciate all you guys do, and I hope to see your quality improve, so I apologize if I sound overly critical. For what it's worth, the video was very pretty :>

@Lexicon_

7 жыл бұрын

1TerraHertz There's a reason I said "one of best" not "the best".

@snitchcore8635

7 жыл бұрын

Fanboy in denial. Thanks for the laughs.

@Lexicon_

7 жыл бұрын

Funny you say that about someone who's been recommending the RX470 regularly for months.

@quashe637

7 жыл бұрын

What is interesting is the "founders editions" though Even there the results are the same :O

@Lexicon_

7 жыл бұрын

Alexander Kjelby The Founder's Edition cards are basically irrelevant. They're just expensive blower style cooler cards that some people think look cool. Blower style coolers suck... Which is inherently kind of a funny thing to say. Basically the ideal cooler setup for Pascal cards is at least a dual fan if not triple fan or liquid cooling. Card performance is tied directly to cooling performance, and you will see thermal limitations being hit with single fan cards or blower fan cards.

It'd be cool to see an OC comparison since most 1060s will get to ~2.1Ghz+- (standard Pascal OC limit average), and most 480s will sit at ~1.4Ghz+-.

@snitchcore8635

7 жыл бұрын

No they don't all get to 2100mhz.

@Thesinistereyes1

7 жыл бұрын

lol basing speed on clock speeds is like telling which car is faster by the rpm .... OC on the 1060 might look big but it equivalents to only a few fps jump. while a rx 480 clocked at 1460 scores much higher on most synthetic benchmarks and games. core counts, memory bandwidth, bus size and raw compute power matters not just clock speed.

@Najvalsa

7 жыл бұрын

TheSinisterEyes1 If you're talking to me, I never said clock speed = one is superior over the other. I'm talking about how he said that he wouldn't OC them because OC varies, and while that's true, there's somewhat of an average that most will be able to achieve.

@heinrichvonschnitzel5402

7 жыл бұрын

No but that seems to be the general consensus, Pascal overclocks better, because more Mhz, no one seems to care about per clock performance here when comparing to the RX 480 .

With dx12 and Vulcan coming think I'll be looking at the 480. Thanks for video!

I loved the video and I've been wanting to see a video like this for a while now, especially with all the hype of "oh the 480 will get better with drivers!" That being said, wow, couldn't this had come out just a little sooner, like before the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales? This would had have really been a huge motivation on my decision as I struggled between 480 vs 1060. I went with the 1060 but it was a tough call to make and this video probably would had helped push me in the AMD camp (Freesync was tempting). I imagine there were a lot of people who made a "big" purchase that day where this would had been a deciding factor. Granted it will also be helpful for Christmas, no doubt. Oh well. Still appreciated the informative video very much and am interested in seeing just how far the AMD line will be able to go in the future through further updates and optimizations.

Managed to get an RX 480 MSI Gaming X 4GB edition card for about $179 after rebate on Amazon during a sale a couple weeks ago. Definitely a step up from the GTX 950 I had, best decision I've made for my PC thus far.

@MrTurtlebird

7 жыл бұрын

Just wait until you get an SSD, that's truly the best upgrade one can make to their PC lol

@inverz6102

7 жыл бұрын

Turtlebird I know that feeling, 10 sec boot times are amazing.

@14supersonic

7 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah, I plan on getting an SSD sometime soon.

@14supersonic

7 жыл бұрын

***** ... but Ubuntu doesn't have much support, sooooo....

Doos Ex. DOOS Ex. DOOOOOOOS EX.

@anthonys.3871

7 жыл бұрын

Kenadian2006 Day- Us Ex

@Kenadian2006

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes I know. He said doos.

@LiamE69

7 жыл бұрын

He dropped a deuce.

@IaMaWeSoMe7478

7 жыл бұрын

LiamE69 That was horrible.

ATLAST! I have been waiting for so many years!

Could you re-do this now with the last drivers, again? I think it's interesting since none of the cards got a replacement yet.

If you get rx 470 for $150 thats a bang for your buck

I would pick the RX 480 if I were looking at this price point for performance. It's really annoying how AMD still haven't got an answer to the GTX 1070, 1080 and Titan XP. If AMD had a GTX 1070 equivalent, I would get it.

@TroidHunter

7 жыл бұрын

490 and a new fury are likely to come in the next few months so just make sure to have 5-600 on hand for it

@R2Y2V2

7 жыл бұрын

AMD cards are usually never $500-$600.

@TroidHunter

7 жыл бұрын

TheBlackdragonnight Google tells me that the 290x launched at 550$, so i disaggree.

these parts are overpowerd! i could not even dream about owning this! keep up the good work!

Do you think getting this card for 1440p would be a good idea now due to driver updates, dx12 api, etc. or do you think it's better on 1080p?

Awesome video.

@Eber.Antony

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@saikrishankumar

7 жыл бұрын

***** I can imagine the sheer amount o time you spent on this video. I read the article. Just want to say that thank you so much for your hard work. This is why we love HardwareCanucks.

@Eber.Antony

7 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate it man! Mike who is our Editor-in-chief did a great job with the benchmarks!

@saikrishankumar

7 жыл бұрын

***** this just give me yet another reason to recommend your channel and blog to my friends and family.

Holy shit! I was not expecting this at all. AMD actually got their shit together with drivers! So... RX 480 on top. :D

Could you please do a VR comparison with the new drivers? I can't find any articles/threads/videos with them.

It'd be better to have the positioning of the 4 cards fixed across the bar charts, I found it easier to read that way. Great video anyways :)

I have a g1 gaming 1060 and I love it. I really wanted a 480 but when I bought it there wasn't a decent cooler out.

@darkknight1193

7 жыл бұрын

XFX RX 480 8GB GTR. Nuff said :P check JayzTwoCents video on the card. Best 480 on market.

@NakedChicken69

7 жыл бұрын

darkknight1193 I would've bought it if it was released at the time I was looking for an upgrade, but it was just reference coolers. Plus I got my card for a killer deal

@darkknight1193

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah the 1060 G1 is a great card. However they cheaped out in the RX 480. I'm still waiting for AMD to release their high-end cards and wait for prices to go down further :P

@NakedChicken69

7 жыл бұрын

Sir Brobellion 6 gig. It's a really great card, I have no complaints about it. Big step up from my old 760

@Freedom2118

7 жыл бұрын

darkknight1193 not to forget that asus rog rx 480 strix oc edition is by far overall the best rx 480 period. 😁👌👌

I just bought the XFX GTR RX 480 for $250. Good buy?

@ivan134

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. Very.

@carwashsoap

7 жыл бұрын

Ok, good :)

@ZR1Gamer

7 жыл бұрын

ScumbagSteve Awesome buy !

@Dake21

7 жыл бұрын

Pretty good, is it the 4 or 8 G? I got one 4G at 280 during black friday (just 10% off)

@carwashsoap

7 жыл бұрын

+David Cazes 8G

where did you learn how to film so well... i love your style

excellent video very informative

Wow it looks like now the 8GB Rx 480 wins overall, I had no idea it was this close.

Please, please, pleeeease colour separate NV and AMD next time you do slides. Having to pause at every slide is awful.

How Good is Video Editing on those cards?

this is awesome, I kinda didn't look at performance before I just got 2x sapphires rx480 nitro+ so I'm now very happy with my purchase

Still deciding on which card to get. Moving to Canada soon, and will definitely need a new build. Should I get RX 480, spend more on GTX 1070 or save for a better card?

@ZR1Gamer

7 жыл бұрын

Nik Kurzov If you have the money,Spend more and get the 1070.If you don't,Get the 250$ XFX GTR RX 480

@vonkruel

7 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend GTX 1070 if you want to game at 1440p. For 1080p gaming, the GTX 1070 can still make sense for maintaining high frame rate (100-144fps). AMD provides a much better value proposition for variable sync with FreeSync, although at ~80+fps variable sync doesn't make much of a noticeable difference (just leave vsync off & you'll hardly notice any tearing). Overall I think RX470 & RX480 are the smart choices for most people playing at 1080p. In a new build I'd probably spend more on CPU than on GPU. You want a base system that'll last you through 2-3 GPU upgrades.

@flosa1995

7 жыл бұрын

To be correct its 15% difference from the 470 to the 480 in pure speed by fps.

@sidsu_

7 жыл бұрын

Well what are you gonna' use it for?

@RushilRamautar

7 жыл бұрын

Nik Kurzov try waiting for the new 490. it's Vega based so better than Polaris

Hmm... one of the best AMD RX480 on the market versus a single fan, compact GTX1060 from EVGA... Maybe you guys should have picked an Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or Galax nVidia card. Those have better power distribution and cooling allowing for higher clocks and as a result better framerates. Or at least a dual fan design. And no. I'm not an biased towards nVidia.

@Nova99

7 жыл бұрын

i dont think there is any dual fan 1060s at the right price point for the video mate

@lukebaumgartner1747

7 жыл бұрын

Pleb That Sapphire nitro was $270. There are dual fan 1060s at that price point.

@antiduckable

7 жыл бұрын

The conclusion that showed a 2% win for the 1060 @ 1080p in DirectX 11 and a 6% loss for the 1060 in DiextX 12/Vulkan etc... was reference RX 480 vs. EVGA GTX 1060 Gaming 6GB.

@kobathor

7 жыл бұрын

I would quote from a post I read but I'll just paraphrase.. nVidia's new line of GPU's are so efficient that it doesn't matter at all which card you get, as long as it's not reference. The best 1060 might get worse overclocks than the SC from EVGA, or it could be better. There's not any binning from what we can tell so far for the AIB nVidia cards.

@snitchcore8635

7 жыл бұрын

You know that EVGA single fan cards come in different versions and one has a really good heatsink? That's the one they use. It boosts plenty, probably to 1850mhz+

very well done video gj !

what processor you used for this tests?

Lol, did the post this a day before ReLive launched, giving the RX 480 a 5-10% boost in most games?

@hellowalkman4506

7 жыл бұрын

yes this is before relive but with relive expect a 2% avg increase over these nos.

Why compare the single fan 6GB GTX1060 version to the double fan RX480? when there's a double fan 1060GTX that is more close to the RX480 price and specs ?

Hi Canucks, just want to share a feedback. It is probably better to keep the cards' position the same across charts instead of sorting them by ranks. I was confused for a bit there, and even after figuring things out it is still hard to keep track of how well the RX 480 is doing against the GTX 1060. But very helpful videos. Many thanks for the work!

how is the 480 doing with dx12 dota2? my gtx1060 is stuttering like crap in dota2 with my previous gtx960 able to provide consistent 75fps.

Deuce Ex Bigalow Male Gigolo

@trotman000

7 жыл бұрын

Jay Kim Nice

I decided to go with the RX 480 Gaming X GPU over the GTX 1060. I was torn between the two for a while. Then when I did decide to go RX 480 I had to decide on which one LOL. was going to go XFX GTR Black edition.

thanks for the benchmark

Your photography is amazing

"About 250$...". *goes one Newegg and amazon* selling for 400$ Now D:

@winfieldk6692

6 жыл бұрын

Walker Cal. :(

@jordanzish

6 жыл бұрын

At least you can find it now. About a year ago they just weren't available anywhere. That, and the current prices, has completely ruined my upgrade path. Definitely sold my 960 prematurely 😭

There's more gains to be made with the next major driver update Crimson ReLive

did they remove EVGA Superclocked cards from amazon? I cannot find them anymore.

does any difference the reference model and the implented ? i need answers , pls .

I was originally hyped on the RX 480, but when the July benchmarks came out I was a bit underwhelmed and started considering the GTX 1060. Now seeing this I'm considering the RX 480 once again. They're extremely close though.

@ch3rok33jo3

7 жыл бұрын

AMD is known for under-performing at launch, then pulling ahead after 1-2 years. See: RX 290 vs. GTX 970

@vonkruel

7 жыл бұрын

RX480 (especially 8GB version) will age better, and if you want variable sync it's a far better value proposition with FreeSync support.

@ch3rok33jo3

7 жыл бұрын

vonkruel I'm definitely happy I went with RX 480, I was on the fence about 1060 but I had a 290 and it aged well. I saw that cryptocurrency miners were all going with AMD over Nvidia, which told me that AMD had the real raw power, just needed better drivers. And here we are =) SO MANY NVIDIA FANBOYS tried to talk me toward a 1060, but I didn't budge. Got my 480 8GB for just $199. =D

@MrChriss000

7 жыл бұрын

This argument about 4 gig ram always makes me laugh actually. If you run a game on 1080p that needs more than 4 gig of Vram you would need a 1080p screen about 32 inches or more to see the difference. If you could spot it. Better to dial down textures a little,or sell the card rather than crossfire.

AMD cards get old like wine. Nvidia like fish.

@podersen

7 жыл бұрын

Dried fish holds up for a good amount of time ;)

@shano2aks1

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he just insulted like...the better half of Sweden?

What are the specs on the test system? I see no mention anywhere.

How is temps and noise with AMD ReLive drivers, any better already?

Just imagine two years from now. Reviewers will continue to review both of these cards even though they will be outdated by Nvidia Volta and AMD Vega + Navi lol

@pablo4740

7 жыл бұрын

TechVoyager well, the 750 ti is still being used quite a bit. That's also years old.

@astrotechstudios228

7 жыл бұрын

True but why if there's a GTX 1050 right there on the spot?

@astrotechstudios228

7 жыл бұрын

GTX 1050 / RX 460 for current gen, GTX 750Ti for older gen

@shendyputrakucingjojo6809

7 жыл бұрын

they did review HD 7970 vs GTX 680

i went with gtx 1060 cause i use shadowplay and nvidia streaming alot. that was the only reason

@alexw8903

7 жыл бұрын

In the upcoming driver update amd is adding some sort of shadow play equivalent so you might have wasted your money (if amd's shadow play is any good that is)

@Ben01tM

7 жыл бұрын

Doublebow "wasted" cause nvidia won't care about anything and how can you know for example how would these cards perform in a lower level system. I hate people being so judgmental over a fucking 2 % difference.

7 жыл бұрын

with hvec 265 and desktop recording. (plays.tv work fine tho)

@astrotechstudios228

7 жыл бұрын

Shadowplay now supports H.265 encoding? When did they implement this?

@JohnDuthie

7 жыл бұрын

AMD ReLive

What was the system you tested with

what do you recommend for Total War games?

I'm loving my RX 470, although I do miss Shadowplay from my old 750 ti, Raptr is trash in comparison, hopefully that gets fixed

@AlexPrime86

7 жыл бұрын

oh seriously?, that's awesome

@kionera96

7 жыл бұрын

Use OBS Studio instead of Raptr

@snakejoako

7 жыл бұрын

I'm really looking forward to that! hope it's true :D

@TheDigitalShrapnel

7 жыл бұрын

+ActivesiN Apparently it's called AMD ReLive.

@AlexPrime86

7 жыл бұрын

TheDigitalShrapnel yeah I just looked it up, I hope it works as well as shadowplay

Well this is great to see. Although I still went and switched to a 1060 and as much as I would like to go back to AMD, there's still a number of NVIDIA features I love using and have a hard time letting go of. I use Shadowplay very often and there's almost no substitute that works as good as it. I use Ansel for 360 shots for Witcher 3, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, and I would use it for Watch Dogs 2 when I get it and I'm excited to use it on coming games that would support it. Yes, I also use Hairworks because it looks great on Witcher 3 and I use PhysX on some older games. It's really those kinds things that keep me on Team Green and I really hope AMD steps it up on that department since they're already doing great in the performance side of things.

@SavageArms357

7 жыл бұрын

FYI, AMD just announced their own Shadowplay alternative (Not Plays.TV). You can read about it here: www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5gui45/amd_will_enclude_a_shadowplaylike_feature_win/

@BenyaminLorit

7 жыл бұрын

Sheriff Blatz We'll wait and see how that goes. Hopefully they would also include 360 capture in the near future and if so then I might really jump ship :)

@Ben01tM

7 жыл бұрын

Benyamin Lorit 1060 here aswell. I'm actually looking forward for ZEN. Like if it turns out to be good, I'm insta buying, even having some terrible experiences with amd's fx series won't stop me.

@Eber.Antony

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. Features wise, NVIDIA offers a lot to the table. Believe it not, I use Shadow Play on a regular basis.

@ariqfauzan4982

7 жыл бұрын

shadowplay or obs? also which ones better for like video editing stuff?

how is that GTX 1060 brand model called at the beginning of the video? It looks sick and if i get one it will be that one

Iam pretty new and want to build a gaming pc. What is the difference between pre-overclocked and self-overclocking?