I always go with enough fans to make the case hover off my desk

@darkzek8141

8 жыл бұрын

xD

@connorsullivan7525

8 жыл бұрын

+Second Burst Very True. It becomes difficult to clean it sometimes when it floats away though lol

@JamesKightleyDK

8 жыл бұрын

Not enough, it needs to outperform a commercial airliner

@fl4shb4ckGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+That Guy Sully Nah just install the fans ON the desk then your monitors hover too

@connorsullivan7525

8 жыл бұрын

AzBo Gaming I agree, it's very minimal. I honestly just put a fan in every spot that is made for one and it works wonders

I'm really enjoying this "older" videos, when we got useful information for plebs like me without top of the line hardware.

@ZKoomah

5 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Luke's workshop videos, too bad they didn't make too many of them.

@darkwowpg

5 жыл бұрын

Somebody knows why now only linus is in every video?

@SxSxG666

5 жыл бұрын

@@darkwowpg Maybe because it's called Linus Tech Tips? Just a wild guess out of the blue.

@donstar5060

5 жыл бұрын

He works at Floatplane now I think

@AtteR04

5 жыл бұрын

@@darkwowpg luke works for floatplane

Steps: 1. Locate all places where a fan could physically fit 2. Fill these places with Noctua

@pipeqez911

3 жыл бұрын

Nope I fill mine with Ezdiy rgb fans because how much of a good deal they are

@thenarrator1921

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like Inwin fans are underrated though. Good value and RGB that doesn't suck ass compared to other non-RGB fans in the market

@dyna6448

3 жыл бұрын

Make sure fir them to be 3000rpm do it can fly

@fortnitehub9239

3 жыл бұрын

@@pipeqez911 I have those fans to they are great they should be more popular.!!

@wta1518

3 жыл бұрын

Any PC that has fewer than 8 Noctua fans (3 exhaust, 3 intake, 2 for your NH-U12S) is unworthy of being called a PC.

That guy at the end really couldn't wait 30 seconds for him to finish recording huh? lmao

@operadores2

4 жыл бұрын

that looks bad

@watermonsters1810

4 жыл бұрын

@@operadores2 yeahh, guess he really just doesn't give a fuuuck 😅

@BrainlessMr

4 жыл бұрын

how can you come in to a video not even say hello and doing your thing.... moron'

@isaiasnolasco4553

3 жыл бұрын

So F disrespectful!

@_klee7469

3 жыл бұрын

you guys know that was part of the 'show' right? just to emphasize Luke is in a hurry XD

Why buy fans when I can just manually blow air into the system?

@garrettk7166

5 жыл бұрын

Because, as a nerd, you're supposed to be productively lazy. Outsource the air blowing to your fans. Duh. Build a KZread channel, and have your fans come over and blow air into your case. Problem solved.

@johnz6241

5 жыл бұрын

dude just fart into it. that'd neutralize the air.

@ArthaxtaDaVince777

5 жыл бұрын

You can liquid cool it with urine

@scottyhaines4226

5 жыл бұрын

Or spend $10 for a small desk fan add just have it blow into the case

@supersaiyangoku3580

5 жыл бұрын

Gosh... can you stop joking?!

Intake and exhaust orientation should've been mentioned.

@gerelltroche

8 жыл бұрын

I agree completely.

@adhityapermanaputra9077

8 жыл бұрын

hey i wanna ask something, if i put radiator in front panel, it's better to use push or pull fan setup? thanks b4

@embeddedgenius3844

8 жыл бұрын

+hadron89 In my Define R4 I would do intake front and bottom, so that's three fans intake. 2 140 in front (with filter) and one high pressure fan at the bottom. Now with the exhaust, I have a H80i and the fan is pulling instead of pushing air on the fins. I have two 140s at the top exhausting also. So that's three intake and three exhaust which is neutral air pressure.

@_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

8 жыл бұрын

+hadron89 or bottom if your case allows it.

@swordtofdamocles

8 жыл бұрын

+EmbeddedGenius But bottom sucks more dust as dust falls down onto surfaces.

I have three fans intake, three exhaust, not counting the ones on the CPU cooler or video card. I read at least 10 emails a day, so you can never be too safe! :P

@schmidth

4 жыл бұрын

Meh, I'd rather have an additional 500 GB SSD then. ;)

@Zeroneii3

3 жыл бұрын

it's better to have more intake than exhaust

@Banana-sb1hi

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zeroneii3 why?

@Zeroneii3

3 жыл бұрын

@@Banana-sb1hi reduces dust basically it's better in the long term

@yourhandlehere1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zeroneii3 Um....no. The better the air moves straight through with no "kinks" the better. Try putting some smoke through so you can see the flow. I test mine several times a day....;) There's only space for 5 120s in my Neo Air case. two front, two top, one rear. But I still fit 6. I front mounted a 120 AIO with push pull fans.

Once my tower is 5 decibels louder than a Huey helicopter I know I've installed enough fans.

@bigboyexpress6668

3 жыл бұрын

Why not just install a Huey in your in your pc? If you play Rising Storm 2: Vietnam it would be very immersive

@maxvisser9528

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboyexpress6668 I did that a few weeks ago, now my house is boobytrapped and i keep finding tunnels in my floor

@zealousdoggo

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxvisser9528 I also installed a Huey and, for good measure, I also put in a sabre engine so that I can effectively remove heat from the case and use it for heating my hot coco

@Leroys_Stuff

3 жыл бұрын

Can relate

Can’t you just download more cooling ?

@piipiipii

5 жыл бұрын

Naaa u need more RGB...

@niklaslinde

5 жыл бұрын

Lol made my day😂

@kittymcpaws4862

5 жыл бұрын

no that's illegal. You have to buy the dvd

@TheFrontiersmanBulds

5 жыл бұрын

nana, RBG is for those higher fps. common knowlegde

@Maxgamer-fd7hv

5 жыл бұрын

download.cooler.com

"And what case fans do--" TUNNELBEAR!

@jasond.valentine5931

5 жыл бұрын

Poor guy did not have the time to finish the video. Had to come back and record another piece somewhere else ahahah.

@charlesballiet7074

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasond.valentine5931 yea this felt like a half ass job of whatever parts they scraped off the floor

@Urfcannon

3 жыл бұрын

lmao tunnelbear is no more

@abm5119

3 жыл бұрын

That segue was rough. We've been getting spoiled by seamless transitions these days.

I like how this is recommended to me the day after I installed 9 more fans into my pc and upgraded 2 others to bring my total fan count to 21.

@BB-nq5cx

4 жыл бұрын

you can fit that many? All 120mm right?

@dapz

4 жыл бұрын

@@BB-nq5cxnot all 120mm. On my intake I have 2 200mm fans, and then behind it are 3 140mm fans. The 200mm look nice but considering the front is tempered glass, I do need more static pressure than the 200mms can provide. On my CPU 360mm rad, which is mounted on the side of the case, I have 6 120mm, and then my gpu rad, which is also 360mm, has 6 120mm fans as well. Then my exhaust fan is a 140mm. The other 3 are the chipset fan, (x570), the gpu vrm fan which is 92mm, and then the psu fan, which is 130mm or something weird like that.

@BB-nq5cx

4 жыл бұрын

@@dapz oh I didn't know we were counting built in fans (like psu and gpu ones). also I didn't realise there were 200mm ones. You must have a massive case right?

@dapz

4 жыл бұрын

@@BB-nq5cx yeah, its pretty big, and wide too.200mm fans are one of the largest fans you can commonly find in pcs, though 250mm fans have been made for pcs, just very uncommon. not including built in fans i would have 18. its about 65 decibels at full volume, i actually have a vid of it on my channel.

@BB-nq5cx

4 жыл бұрын

@@dapz oh nice. That is, a lot

This is easily one of the most useful videos. Coming from a stock Dell XPS Desktop setup, I think just adding 1 front fan would make a lot of difference.

@drewg3087

7 ай бұрын

I have the same, added the iograded heatsink and fan, i9, 3080, a noctua too fan and maybe will add a 2nd noctua. People arw crazy to expect better. Its hated on but enough for gaming and great at desktop and I added more RAM just in case haha.

Kudos to Canada for using degrees Celsius!

@LachClark

8 жыл бұрын

+Dmytro Lienko #metricmasterrace

@jeremycorbin2178

8 жыл бұрын

The superior measurement

@daviddao3657

8 жыл бұрын

Computer temps are just in Celsius as a standard, even in America. Not sure why.

@agentcrm

8 жыл бұрын

+David Dao Because the USA is basically the only country left that uses Fahrenheit as the normal.

@goeiecool9999

8 жыл бұрын

+Dmytro Lienko They tried to get metric going in the US didn't they? Americans just got too confused. Like wtf 'murica. They use "calories" instead of kilocalories. So if you try to explain to them how much joules go in a calorie they'll think you're off by a factor of 1000.

I've always set my pc up in an icebath with an umbrella drink so it never feels to hot or stressed out

@larry570

6 жыл бұрын

Bruh just throw that shit in the freezer

@Jenuin

5 жыл бұрын

You lush

@AinetheIrish

5 жыл бұрын

Draqkon my computer case is a meat locker

@insanity6379

5 жыл бұрын

Too*

@ProperDave

4 жыл бұрын

@@larry570 Years ago, I saw a build on a forum. They got a bar fridge, built the PC inside, drilled holes for the cables & sealed them with silicone, then put in a TON of moisture absorbers. Ran pretty cool, overclocked real well.

Looking back at the old videos, the improvement in production quality is massive. Audio is so much more crisp, and the lighting is perfect and diffused. And that's just at first glance. Missing Luke hosted videos though lol

@nyrrik1337

2 жыл бұрын

Also the obnoxious music is gone

“This is not sponsored by cooler master” *remembers the ad at the satrt of the video*

@didiodulaw7417

4 жыл бұрын

"This *build* is not sponsored [...]"

@zokalyx

4 жыл бұрын

He did say this "build"

@7us

3 жыл бұрын

Satrt

@yejunpark4220

3 жыл бұрын

stop stealing comments 🤡

I kinda dislike that while the sets seem to be more professional, ltt seems to be moving towards more of a vloggy handcam direction with less concise points and more view into the background of the videos. I feel like its almost more behind the scenes than actual content.

@Gxbbzee

8 жыл бұрын

couldn't agree more.

@Gxbbzee

8 жыл бұрын

actually, thinking about it, it kinda reminds me of the old LTT videos... so maybe its not too bad :D

@mintytoofpaste

8 жыл бұрын

+Beef Ingot basically what cnet became!

@shiny_shoes5878

8 жыл бұрын

+Beef Ingot yeah I admit this recording was definently rushed haha. Results and content was still interesting though

@MaheshPatelRavani

8 жыл бұрын

Using three-point or five-point lighting technique in order to get professional video is good. They only thing that this video lacks is they forgot to put less light on background. My two cents.

i want to see a follow up on how positive and negative air pressure affect cooling.

@LawlessSentry

7 жыл бұрын

It doesn't really affect cooling but more dust goes into your case if you have positive air pressure. Edit: Edited words.

@iadhaid1230

7 жыл бұрын

I vent from positive to negative by changing the rear to exhaust and i get less dust.

@LawlessSentry

7 жыл бұрын

Easy Skater pardon... negative means there is more air exiting the case and positive is when there is more air entering the case

@iadhaid1230

7 жыл бұрын

LawlessSentry NO SHIT SHERLOCK WHERE IS THE POWERBUTTON I CANNOT TURN ON MY PC

@LawlessSentry

7 жыл бұрын

Easy Skater LUL

Very informative and well done. The one consideration that I thought you would include is the CFM of the fans. CFM airflow determines how much air is being moved into the case (intake) or removed from the case (exhaust). I would think that a balanced CFM would be the goal of cooling the compartment. You want the intake and exhaust airflow to be near the same. There are cheap devices that measure airflow. I think they are called airspeed measurers. I would also advise using fans that are speed adjustable. This would help you to balance the case airflow. It's not all that important that you agree or disagree with me as long we both agree that warm air RISES.

It's amazing they didn't mention fan orientation although it IS possible to tell by watching the video, The "back" side of a fan (where visible wires run along the frame towards center) is the side air will be blowing towards, so for example at 9:28 - 9:30 when it shows the closeup of the top fan you can see the wires so it is setup as an Exhaust fan. We can of course assume the front & rear fan orientation as it wouldn't make any sense otherwise (rear = exhaust / front = intake).

Super finds Luke! One interesting thing I've found through my own experiments is that having a *direct* flow of air to a particular component helps temperatures significantly (rather than having to go around components etc). Not something that's easily done in a normal case unfortunately though.

@casiquekibra

8 жыл бұрын

+DIY Perks Well you also designed your own case to take advantaje of that ;)

@danielschulz4930

8 жыл бұрын

+DIY Perks It's also easier to get direct airflow on a GPU with a CPU tower heatsink as in your build. Out of curiousity, how much did it cost you to build a case rather than buy one?

@sirfreakish

8 жыл бұрын

+DIY Perks Your case is superior in design to what anyone could find out on the market. The closest thing that I could find to it was the Silverstone FT05 (or RV05). These cases have the rotated motherboard design and also have VERY good case fans that provide direct flow of air, the Silverstone Air Penetrators. But a case like this doesn't have room for a tower heatsink on gpu like yours does.

@DIYPerks

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel Schulz The whole case itself cost only £50 in materials iirc, including the wrap and paint etc.

@annelisemeier283

8 жыл бұрын

No shit m8 ...

Awesome video Luke! Would love another test for positive/negative setups with one, two, three fans at different locations on the case...hmmm... maybe a video idea for something i should do :p

@AlexCho617

8 жыл бұрын

Yesssss Plzzzzzz

@TheRegalRolston

8 жыл бұрын

I love that I can't help but read your comment in your accent xD

@bossussuh

8 жыл бұрын

+HardwareCanucks yes do it. just do it. please do it.

@SuodesTzeos

8 жыл бұрын

+HardwareCanucks c'mon, do it, i'm so curious! and of course i love your style :D

@DaltonGoesSlow

8 жыл бұрын

+HardwareCanucks and one fan. lots of cases only come with the one in back, like mine.

Always enjoy going back to see how far they have come. Luke with more to say, "So, a" cuts to tunnel bear. And then the tunnel bear notes on his phone on the desk.

Thank you for making and posting this video. It's helped me understand the cooling requirements for a build I'd like to undertake. Thank you again.

The other guy seemed pissed you were using his stuff haha

that ending was hilarious.... that guy couldn't wait two seconds to let him finish signing off hahaha. what a tool.

@Crazywaffle5150

7 жыл бұрын

i know right!

@QueertyUCR

7 жыл бұрын

"They're kicking me out the door" :P

@FayyaazAhmed

7 жыл бұрын

Adds to the humour. Brilliant

@stimproid

7 жыл бұрын

Hodor

@kinpotatoes

7 жыл бұрын

It was poorly edited (only the end)

I always go for a positive pressure setup with inntake in the front and sometimes 1 in the bottom of the case if there's room and a filter that covers the position I want, then I go for a 2-3 exhaust fan setup in the roof of the case and 1 in the rear. This creates a front/bottom to back/top airflow with positive pressure, 4 inntake fans (+ PSU) and 3 exhaust fans.

The pattern here seems to be that if an intake fan has a matching exhaust fan, it has a good effect on cooling, and front fans cool the gpu better (the lower the better maybe) and exhaust fans help cool the cpu better. You guys should repeat this test, but use AIO radiators of different sizes and mix and match the fans.

I have 10 fans in my system. 2 front, 2 rear, 2 top, and 4 taped onto the window.

@aido123100

7 жыл бұрын

Vandoeun Long Damn you tryna start a hurricane

@khmergodhobbies

7 жыл бұрын

Aidan Williamson fanception.

@khmergodhobbies

7 жыл бұрын

get extension hubs for extension hubs.

@Stratos4Kamikaze

7 жыл бұрын

what power supply are you using?

@khmergodhobbies

7 жыл бұрын

rm850x

Maybe I'm stupid but a fan orientation might've made things a bit clearer. Front fans are intake and Back fans are exhaust? How about the ones on top?

@cmonguys2227

7 жыл бұрын

The top fans are most likely exhaust fans. Other two are just like you said.

@AuroraShip

7 жыл бұрын

Hey, when i was building my pc i made a quick search on it too, front are intakes, rear are exhausts, top is for exhausts too beacause the heat rises to the top so that makes sense.

@rojamb2012

7 жыл бұрын

Cant the top be used as intake and add fans at the bottom for exhaust (yes I know heat rises)? I know a person with a Haf X that does that.

@thetriplets1000

7 жыл бұрын

You can do what you want. I have my front fan bringing it in, left side panel bringing it in, top fan bringing it in, and top exhausting it.

@frankchua9276

7 жыл бұрын

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My approach to case fans (after 2 factory fitted ones included with the case failed) is. Buy a case without fans if possible, or remove if not. Buy some decent ones. Depending on how sensitive to noise and tone you are this can be quite in depth. Also pay attention to airflow (usually given in m³/h or cubic meters per hour) I'd say you want a minimum of 50m³/h for a 120 or 140 mm but higher is better, a high quality fan will get close to double this and should be much quieter. If you can live without LED's you'll often get a better quality fan (Corsair for one the AF 140 with LED's is lighter than the non LED variant) Pay attention to the bearing type, sleeve bearings are entry level, ball bearings are better. Personally I use Noctua fans. I use their Redux model for my case fans. Many cases can fit 3 X 120 mm fans in the front or 2 X 140 mm, here I would say it's marginally better to use 3 X 120 mm if this leaves no open spaces between the fans or case rather than 2 X 140 mm that leave gaps at the top and bottom. It also looks better aesthetically in my opinion. The airflow is similar for example 2x NF-P14 Redux PWM 1500 RPM move 267.4 m³/h compared to 3x NF-P12 Redux PWM 1300 RPM move 276.9 m³/h. The NF-P14 PWM 1500 is noticeably louder tho' @ 25.8 dB(A) compared to the NF-P12 PWM 1300 @ 19.8 dB(A) + 6db(A) is much louder, I believe we perceive sound as doubling for every +3db(A) These figures are obviously specific to these exact model types and other fans will vary wildly. If fan noise bothers you it is worth going into detail. Be Quiet fans are appropriately very quiet but they sacrifice RPM and by extension airflow to achieve this. Depending on how much heat your system generates these may be an excellent low noise solution but if your overclocked CPU and powerful GPU are working hard for long gaming sessions you may require more airflow. Fan placement is not as straightforward as you might think except for the obvious front to back flow. Top mounted fans while it would seem intuitive to have them exhausting hot air (I mean heat rises, right?) I was amazed to find that flipping them over and using them as intakes, I was able to knock 10°C off my VRM temps and a couple of degrees off my RAM temps without increasing any other temps. 10°C! That's a big reduction just for flipping your fans orientation. Bottom mounted fans, I would recommend some caution here, the last thing you want to do is to be sucking dust from underneath your PC and introducing it to the interior of your case. Unless you're struggling with high temps and you've no other options I would avoid bottom mounted fans unless used with filters. In general tho' unless you live in an extremely dusty environment I don't advise the use of mesh airfilters, especially if your case has a perforated panel in front of the fans. Adding that second layer of filtration absolutely kills the fans performance, far better to run without them and invest in an air duster and regularly give your case interior a blow out. The single most important factor when it comes to airflow management is the case. If you're running high performance components then the best approach is to choose a case which is designed to optimise airflow (Gamers Nexus channel has a comprehensive guide to help you choose a high airflow case) if however your PC is more modest then you can probably get away with choosing a case design purely on aesthetic grounds. Good luck with your build.

So weird to look back at these videos from around the time when I started watching LTT. Luke is in them and the content seems so unprepared and quickly put together. Also Nick doing simple tasks like getting some peripherals for the WAN show set instead of only sales is odd. Now there are people for the inventory and loads of writers to prepare everything for a video.

@AndreasRP.

2 жыл бұрын

I miss Luke

@elijohnson3090

2 жыл бұрын

I miss these old days. Scrolled to the comments to see if anyone else was feeling the nostalgia

@DefenseIsLacking

Жыл бұрын

@@elijohnson3090 samezees

@lukeonuke

Жыл бұрын

These are so nostalgic, tbh its sometimes refreshing to see it a bit less prepered, there is a reason (except lasiness that @TechnologyConnections does no effort november). Sidenote, tech has advanced so much in these 7 years that this production quality can perfectly be achived by 2 brothers, a phone and a decent pc

Enough fans to feel the breeze from the PC in your face!

@KorvaxTV

8 жыл бұрын

+TechSource oh hi there! love your vids man

@confuseh

8 жыл бұрын

+TechSource It gotta be cold if you feel it, right?

@adamcarter3109

8 жыл бұрын

funny seeing you hear was just watching your episode 23 set up wars

@nageen123naz

8 жыл бұрын

Or the heatwave if you're on amd

@WolfGaming-cm7gw

8 жыл бұрын

+TechSource yo mom

The golden rule? Just put in as many fans as possible to make the system sound like an airplane, especially if you´re building a silent pc

@GindraenShadygrove

8 жыл бұрын

+TheWuerstchenwasser Just add wings and you can fly away on it :3

@TheWuerstchenwasser

8 жыл бұрын

Sawko I agree with that :D

@telefonkirtys

8 жыл бұрын

+Sawko Don't forget to fill your liquid cooler loop with RedBull xD

@TheWuerstchenwasser

8 жыл бұрын

mohammed shahien Go ahead :D

@FV4030

8 жыл бұрын

My Enthoo Luxe and its 7 fans sounds like a GE90 jet engine running at idle.... As an aero engineer, this pleases me greatly.

The total average delta T between the baseline configuration and the addition of more fans represents the total cooling capacity of the system. Due to the specific heat of air, it takes so many watts to raise a volume of air 1 degree C. Therefore going from the T4 CPU cooler alone to 1 front fan + 1 back fan represents adding 480W of cooling capacity. When you add the second front fan it goes up to 600W. Adding the next top fan gets you up to 720W and at that point you are removing heat way faster than your computer can produce it.

A discussion of case pressure - negative vs positive - & dust avoidance when equipping 1 or more intake fans with dust filters, might be a great topic, & it's related to this one.

I am a huge fan already

@sealstealer5007

6 жыл бұрын

ba dum tss

@basshead.

6 жыл бұрын

Let me spin you.

"lots of people freak out over fans" being popular isn't easy :(

The whole time, even before watching the video, I had one fan configuration in mind that I was curious about. But due to the design of the case, this wasn't something that you could test. I was curious if you had a top vent/exhaust/intake, would a) two fans as intake, b) two fans as exhaust, or c) one push and the other pull (perhaps swapping as well) result in better thermals? Otherwise the rest of your setup is indicative of my own. And what about lowering fan speeds with more to be quiet (obviously many more variables and hard to fully test). Awesome as usual and thanks!

Just ordered 2 more fans because of this video. Small fan for top and back and big fans for front. Trying to create positive pressure to minimize dust all while keeping my Pc as cool as I can.

Why are computer temps the only thing in America measured in Celsius?

@akellerseattle

8 жыл бұрын

I'm going to assume that it'd just because it's a lot more widely used, and PC culture is a lot more widespread than other things worldwide. That or other countries measured temps earlier than Americans

@hauskins9516

8 жыл бұрын

+Sunset Rider We are too lazy to change the software settings back to F'. So we have to slowly learn things, all we really know is C stands for computer temps.

@athalia3661

8 жыл бұрын

+Sunset Rider This show is in Canada.

@Bruh-uf4et

8 жыл бұрын

Because Celsius is actually used in America quite often for accurate measurement and professional measuring.

@hattrickster33

8 жыл бұрын

+Sunset Rider Because people actually care about getting a logical, accurate reading.

Smoothest cut to the post ad so far.

I always looked out to get the most amount of fans in my system while caring for a good airflow. Front bottom as intake and rear/top as exhaust works usually very great. But fans in the side panel are often times counter productive for that kind of airflow, so I use them. My last PC was pretty much the only one, where I ditched my usual airflow build since it's build in a "Tacens aluminium extreme" case which got an insane 40cm intake-fan in... or rather AS the side panel. This baby spins at only 800rpm and while completely silent it just pushes around 250 cfm of air in the case. Used it as only case fan and with the silent "Arctic Cooling Freezer Xtreme Rev. 2" on a Phenom II X6 945T and a Gigabyte GTX 960 4GB with dual-fan design, that system was basically completely silent & cool. Still runs today like a charm ;D

10/10 editing guys! "soTUNNEL BEar!"

Just make an entire case out of Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM's Run them all at 3000rpm's Coolest system ever

@danlightowler7207

7 жыл бұрын

BuRgLaR187 That's a cool idea!

@kinnai8334

7 жыл бұрын

umm and loudest?

@mickbakkerphoto

7 жыл бұрын

Kinnai no noctua's are quiet as fuck

@llothar68

7 жыл бұрын

Put no fan at all into it and fly it to your nearest research station on arctica and then: coolest system ever.

@TheLondonCyclist

7 жыл бұрын

Lothar Scholz Let's all move there. We can call our little country 'PC Land'.

"Some random ram from Adata". What!? *Adata dislikes this video*

@mi-rek

5 жыл бұрын

RAM = random-access memory... so it is random. Just like they used duct-tape to seal the duct.

@allipse8224

4 жыл бұрын

@@mi-rek he said random ram. That means 'random random access memory'?

@sbp4215

3 жыл бұрын

@@allipse8224 i love that album

@infiltr80r

3 жыл бұрын

@@mi-rek Didn't say "random access memory", he said "random random access memory".

@linkfreeman1998

17 күн бұрын

the sentence aged like milk lel.

I have a filter on top of the case for mounting the water cooling radiator with its two exhaust fans, and only one other fan. I'm currently using it as exhaust on the back, but you've convinced me to try it in the front, lower, as intake. My other option was to mount the radiator as intake in the front, but I was thinking it would just blow warm air in so I skipped that. Warm air would still excape through the filter on top and through the back fan hole, of course (my PSU is encased in the bottom). Of course, adding more fans is a good idea according to this video so I'm going to do that. Maybe I'll also run a milder benchmark too and return with results. I know it's old, but thanks for the video - it's helpful / informative.

I have 2 in front + 1 in rear. I wanted to put 2 more on the top of the case, but your video made me save money (and noise). Thanks.

Actually really digging this kinda video Luke. It's relevant for the consumer and viewer instead of the 4 TitanX black benchmarks. It's interesting to watch. Easy to play around with even if the viewer is the avg John Doe fiddling with his PC and will give huge improvements over the usual craycray stuff that gives a 0.1% improvement for a loooot of work. So thumbs up on the idea for this video. Really enjoyed watching it even for a tech veteran.

Amazing tests, I always wondered about it.

This test is really well done, very straightforward, insightful for sure

so much efforts to put in to make a good benchmark videos like these. appreciate it..! and thanks you.

$69 for a case fan? Da faq?

@XSilvenX

8 жыл бұрын

Loool

@jellyruke8444

8 жыл бұрын

+MrCODEmaster00 i now really want to build a quadcopter with 4 of these...

@MrCODEmaster00

8 жыл бұрын

Luké Ruké lol trust me you could, i plan to use an itx board for JUST the fan headers seeing as how 1 of them can lift off okay, so if you use a lightweight itx board, 3-4 fans, and than an extension cord (for the psu) it should be fine.

@TuanNguyen-lx7sk

8 жыл бұрын

***** for that money I can buy a new game

@MrCODEmaster00

8 жыл бұрын

Alex The Zen Dragon Slayer *an overpriced game, or 2-4 steam games (but to play on a computer without sufficient cooling mind you)

12:12 “I hate my job...”

Watching some old videos, and *man* I'm glad they stopped with the background music. It's way too loud here

I still have a new Antec 900 in the box (ya 10 years on the shelf), and will be building a 2020 system in it this year. With all the moderan temp drops and smaller sizing drives (M.2) etc this beast should stay cool on the warmest days.

I had 2 on the front wall and 3 on the top of the case. The cooler: Wraith Prism. Idle temp (3800X): around 50-55C Load max temp around 80C Chipset temp: 60-65C Then I replaced the Wraith Prism with NH-D15S and surprisingly the temps didn't change at all. After several hours of trying to fix it I decided to see what happens if I remove the three top fans and add one on the back wall. It was a huge surprise to see the temps afterwards. CPU idle temp now 36-42C and max load temp when doing normal stuff 58C. Chipset temp 51-56C. The three top fans messed up the airflow that badly. Also now my PC is very silent.

I love Luke’s face right before he starts talking after a transition.

So funny to see how far the production quality has come 😄

Luke's tech tips was pretty good

1,996,533 fans an counting.....

@Kyle12211

8 жыл бұрын

1,996,584

@Hendlton

8 жыл бұрын

+Luna 1,996,866

@ddha0000

8 жыл бұрын

+Luna 2,000,000!!!!.....whoop whoop

@bloh12345

8 жыл бұрын

+the good hustler nope

@deadzombie1174

8 жыл бұрын

1,998,167

I just moved my GPU from vertical mount with PCI extender cable back to board mount and temperature dropped from 72C to 62C. When vertically mounted it was pretty close to the glass so that's probably why. Plus the PCI extender cable adds a touch of lag to the GPU so also better board mounted.

Wow, I actually understood the benchmarks in this video, lol. When others start comparing CPU clock speeds and such, I'm clueless as I'm thinking, "Does it really matter if it's 2 milliseconds faster?" But here I can understand why you'd want the CPU a few degrees cooler.

Real great info for us analytical gurus. Thank you for this!

I'd like to see comparisons between having only exhaust fans vs intake and exhaust fans. for example; 2 exhaust (back and top) only vs. 1 back exhaust and 1 front intake. Also would like to see comparison using same fan config and components in a smaller mid tower vs that giant full tower, and maybe even a mini ATX tower.

needs the blower style exhaust fans, those things are amazing

My first 2 cases had a fan on the side panel that would disrupt airflow. I'll never make that mistake ever again. With my current case, I took the time to learn all about airflow and diminishing returns. Settled on a *MESH* Corsair H500 and it never comes close to overheating.

Great video, thanks for the summary :) Very helpful!

you shouldve tested a side panel fan and its effect on the gpu.

@mikeclarke3990

7 жыл бұрын

My strix 1070 idles at 33 degrees with a side intake fan and no gpu fans running. Without it is 53 degrees so it's a huge difference at idle but under load it doesn't matter much at all.

@papasmurf205

7 жыл бұрын

Custom Zombies idle Temps mean nothing. I've personally tested my HAF 932 and the side panel fan made very little difference on my gpu Temps but surprisingly dropped my cpu load Temps by about 3 Celsius. if you have a gpu with a good cooler like the wind force 3x case fans don't make much of a difference gpu wise.

@munchiesgaming3067

7 жыл бұрын

My 780 ti idles at 32 when ambient is 36 xD

@braed6202

7 жыл бұрын

980 idling at 38 with a Corsair H90 AIO, but at 1525mhz and 1.275V XD

@thegr8rambino

6 жыл бұрын

yea im gonna put in a side intake fan on my rig, its an 80mm antec with blue led and 3 speeds, hope it turns out good!!

Cool ^^ Hmm, making me rethink buying 2 fans to install in the front of my case rather than 1 fan. The Cooler Master Q300L case only comes with 1 pre-installed rear fan.

@1204joey

3 жыл бұрын

You can buy 4pack fans fr cooler master, its cheap

@jerrodshack7610

3 жыл бұрын

You definitely need more than the one for that case. The reviews are very critical of its airflow.

@elijahlord

3 жыл бұрын

I have the same case. What did you end up going with and how did it work it out?

@whaddyamean99

2 жыл бұрын

I have this exact case and I have been trying to figure out the best fan set up. I have two intakes at the front and 1 exhaust, but I am debating installing one more intake or exhaust

i use an old hyper evo cooler, my top fans are one intake 1 exhaust, this creates a sort of cooling loop for the tower and makes sure that there's air flowing through my ram. After that i've got two low speed intakes in the front to keep hard disks cool and to contribute to a positive pressure environment in the case, a fan on the side to make sure my video card is getting air, an exhaust on the back to evacuate whatever the top exhaust can't. PSU is independent and all intakes are filtered. Additionally my case has some open air venting on the back which because of positive pressure are usually for excess exhaust air, and, i popped one of the 3.5" drive bay doors open and covered it with filtering foam because it's in-line with the cooling tower so that if it needs more air air its more encouraged to pull from in front than around the case. All filters do get dirty and all open vents are usually venting excess air and if I needed any more proof its working effectively, my room gets hot as hell while pc temps stay nice and cool because there is no heat accumulation within the case. I also wear headphones, so this jet engine sitting next to me cannot be heard. As far as essential fans go, you typically want 1 exhaust near mosfets, 1 intake that flows over hard drives, 1 intake that flows near video card, and, ideally, PSU at the bottom of the case. This should prevent most cases of heat related hardware failure. Case windows are not essential for a budget gaming, you have nothing to show off anyway and the objective is performance for cost so you can use the cost of a case window and spend it somewhere more important. Additionally, if you are using either a tower cooler or a liquid cooler you must make sure there is airflow on the board. There are things on a board that have no sensors but can still fail to heat, heat pockets are lethal. Even if its the cheapest most enemic fan ever, as long as it can move air over the entire board, or at least the area around the cpu+mosfets+ram, you're good.

I went with 2 front, 1 back, 1 top. My front bottom fan made a big difference to the basement area where my mechanical drives and power supply are. Corsair 4000D Airflow case.

I think you’re seeing diminishing returns due to excess air pressure. Your 1 exhaust fan is bottlenecking your 4 intake fans. You could possibly further increase cooling possibilities by adding bottom mounted exhaust fans, turning one of the top fans around, or using an exhaust fan that’s much stronger than the intake fans

@gorkskoal9315

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Once again, a place where tilting the computer on the side would probably help some if it has fans bellow the MOBO or close to it not getting the turblance and convections effect vertial towers create. Titlt the whole fucking thing on the side kind of like an Xbox or something and then you work better with physics, at least for fans colder heavy air tending to cockblock the hot air...it'd seem like you'd get a little better improvment. Pluse you get a preemo monitor stand to boot.

@tempofugo168

Жыл бұрын

@@gorkskoal9315 That's very interesting. Could you expand on the idea ? Why would a tower build work against physic, compared to tilting it ?

@Syldar

Жыл бұрын

If you look closely, he actually adds exhaust fans on the top. So with 2 front, 1 rear and 1 top, it is in fact equalized, and slightly negative with the final config.

@roxydzey

Жыл бұрын

@@Syldar well the positive pressure is better so he should have thought about doing this experiment with negative and positive pressures with all the different fan variations.

@tilu3303

10 ай бұрын

Should've put a couple spinning HDDs in there to monitor those temps under load as well. I always make sure at least one fan is blowing on my HDDs as well to protect them during those hours-long copy operations.

im such a big "fan" of ur channel ;)

@hannibalgornitzka724

8 жыл бұрын

haha..

@hattrickster33

8 жыл бұрын

+SMURF oKING heh

@smurfoking5982

8 жыл бұрын

nah ill stay

@NoahiShere2667

8 жыл бұрын

+SMURF oKING LMAO I loved this one m8

@Rechain

8 жыл бұрын

Nailed it! xD

thank you Floatplane's luke. I was actually trying to decide how many fans I need

ive been using my FX8350 with 1050ti without extra case fans for years. works like a charm running at 43c

I'm building my first PC struggling so much with all the cables but your video out of the others really helped me although wish you had better lighting would of made the process better.

@sherdox6672

Жыл бұрын

I mean, this video is 7 years old. Maybe thats the reason for bad lightning :D

One thing not mentioned...Using a variable speed (PWM) fan array: more fans @ lower RPM make less noise than fewer fans @ higher RPM. So, if noise is a concern for you, keep this in mind.

This really helps since my GPU is running at around 76c under full load and i have one fan in the back and one fan in the front, so if i buy at least 2 more fans i can expect it to be around 3c cooler than before

In the beginning, my eyes were messing with me because that lighting makes you look like an animated cardboard cutout! I'm not hating, just found it entertaining :) Thanks for the video!

12:25 My friend when they don't care what I'm saying

that dude at the end of the clip seemed really passive aggressive

I placed Noctua fans in every spot possible. All 9 of them, they work great :)

Thanks! I know its 2023, but I think the information you gave is still very useful.

"random RAM" 02:02 Random Random Access Memory. ok.

@BeeFFieXL

4 жыл бұрын

Woooooooshh

@ianbryant3037

4 жыл бұрын

@@BeeFFieXL You didn't even do that properly... r/woooosh

@R6Rust

4 жыл бұрын

my left eye suddenly popped out from my face

@cbspydoge

4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean: Random² Access Memory

@vibes6717

4 жыл бұрын

AMD_Inside No its more like 2R+AM

I disagree with you, it's not that more fans is a diminishing return, it's that when you increase the internal pressure by installing more fans it will need to be balanced. You need to tune the individual fan speeds to create an optimal pressure and flow pattern. Try using a fan controller and smoke to balance the flow pattern, then use a photohelic or a manometer etc. to set your case pressure. You may need to tape off case vents (since no pc cases on the market have flow gates that I know of) to achieve a good balance. That's how to make the fans do their job and give you the biggest bang for your buck. I've worked in the Semiconductor cleanroom industry for 30+ years, I know this topic well.

@TheBunnyDeveloper

5 жыл бұрын

K.

@jaspervn4722

5 жыл бұрын

Can you shorten it Down

@JoelHernandez-tz3vk

5 жыл бұрын

I get the feeling that the equipment needed to measure the flow as perfectly as described probably costs 4k$ or even more.

@jaspervn4722

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoelHernandez-tz3vk I just use a vape so I can visible see how the air moves

@JoelHernandez-tz3vk

5 жыл бұрын

@@jaspervn4722 I think I saw jayztwocents using incense for this process, wonder if this is accurate enough for most people.

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for as I build my 15-12600k system. Next I will search to see what orientation of my CPU cooler is best (Noctua NH-U12S)

you need to try with two fans on top, the first towards the back taking out air and the one next to it taking in air. This will make some real difference to the CPU because they would directly be circulating air around its intake and exhaust. Also I always mount a fan at the bottom rear of the cabinet if possible to take all the hot air out from the graphics card. Try this combination and you will see a difference. Also what I have noticed is that you have not dont any poistive/negative air pressure balancing inside the case and why is that?

Looks like I had my fans set up for the best performance the whole time. 2 in the front, one in the back and one on the top

THANK YOU : very clear and interesting vidz !!! thx from France !

@KarthN

3 жыл бұрын

Very clear? I would have appreciated him explaining which one's intake and which ones are facing out

Awesome test. I have been thinking if I should add a fan to the top or not.

I haven't upgraded my case in 10 years. Still running an Antec 900 gaming case and have only needed to replace a single 120mm front fan. 2 front 120mm intake fans, rear 120mm exhaust fan, and top 200mm fan.

you did not test push, pull, that also makes a huge difference, pulling the heat out or blowing cool air in

@danw6877

7 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Also he never said whether the fans on the top of the case where intake or exhaust.

@JacoKruger.

7 жыл бұрын

i found making them "intake" is a big NO NO, cause it sucks in all the dust that falls on top of the case, but it should be intakes for this reason alone ,water cooling, all the hot air from CPU is going up into the water cooler(if you do have a water cooler) and so the top fans should not suck in that hot air through the water cooler

@JacoKruger.

7 жыл бұрын

+drink15 uhm fans is for airflow, comes down to what airflow you get from how much fans you put in

@JacoKruger.

7 жыл бұрын

+drink15 was not arguing wat the video was about, just trying to give advice on future videos he would make, think of all the agles

@danw6877

7 жыл бұрын

I would like to see luke or linus do a video on Teraflops on GPUs and why the AMD R9 480 has 5.5 Teraflops but is still significantly slower then the Gtx1060 with only 4.4 Teraflops.

I have been following the same formula for years: Front: 3X 120mm or 2X 140mm or 1X 200mm Rear: 1X Exhaust fan on low speed Radiator: set to exhaust air out of the case. Sometimes I have another intake in front of the PSU, but thats not always needed.

@yewtewb3628

8 жыл бұрын

+Casual Alien Found the positive pressure bro

@King-fo3kj

8 жыл бұрын

200mm fans don't make good intakes, dual 140s are definitely the way to go if your case supports it

@AlienPball

8 жыл бұрын

Kyle McHale I only mentioned the 200 because thats what my Enthoo Pro came with. When given a choice I always pick 2 or more 140 fans.

@rjfaber1991

8 жыл бұрын

+Casual Alien I've got an Enthoo Pro as well, but I've got 1x200 intake in the front, 2x140 intake in the top, 1x140 intake in the bottom and 1x140 exhaust in the rear. The Pro has got so many holes in the back of the case that even setting all fans bar the rear one to intake like I have doesn't cause significant internal pressure...

@TheRealEZOverdose

8 жыл бұрын

+Casual Alien a tier 2 evga support rep told me their non reference cooler fans prefer negative pressure over positive. and since the gpu runs hotter than the cpu it would make sense to cater to its needs. following their advice and swapping 2 side cover fans from intake to exhaust i lowered gpu temp by 3c and cpu temp about the same. since before the gpu exhaust was being forced up past the cpu and through the radiator or out the back. i have 3 intake on front, 1 intake on bottom, 2 exhaust on side, 1 exhaust on rear, 2 exhaust on top rad. 2 of the front are 1 channel of my fan controller. the other front and the bottom are on another channel. the side exhausts are on a 3rd. my 2 50mm mosfet fans are on a 4th. and the 5th channel handles the 35mm 8000rpm stock mosfet fan cuz its loud as hell, i keep it at 40% always. it by itself can overpower the sound of all other fans combined at max rpm. by doing this i can force positive or negative pressure at any time by adjusting their rpm

Another thing to take into account is dust buildup: you'll want more filtered intakes than exhaust fans, which won't work with just 1 or 2

this gradual approach was great

*coolermaster ad after the intro* “This is not a coolermaster sponsored build, by the way” 2:30

@djak4803

4 жыл бұрын

bruh

@bettermemes1849

3 жыл бұрын

The build is not sponsored by coolermaster, but the video is...

@bettermemes1849

3 жыл бұрын

So they got money from coolermaster, but not pc parts

The test would be more interesting by adding some fans to the sides! 😀

Great video, thanks for posting. I just swapped out the 3(120's) fans that came with the case and added one extra to the top(140's). Seems like I'm bring in more from the front but the top one isn't extracting much. I still have one more for the top and them I guess I'll have to dial them in.. Cheers

Very good info. Much needed thanks!