Wow! A year flies by so quickly. It feels like it has only been 15 months since the first video!

@blackwizardgaming4311

6 жыл бұрын

guess what???? It is

@rahuli

6 жыл бұрын

This guy tracks time...

@AscendedBeyond

6 жыл бұрын

Bringing the heat

@BlitzkriegGT

6 жыл бұрын

make your own video to see if the exp reply or its diferent

@uhoy1488

6 жыл бұрын

It only feels like 23 months for me

only on linus tech tips would leave 3 computers working for a whole year only to see how much dust it collects.

@definitelythatguyred

6 жыл бұрын

Apk Heaven you can say its the linus-level of crazy

@fishmonger1526

6 жыл бұрын

should have used mining rigs...at least they would have served a purpose other than eating electricity and dust. Or folding at home, or Seti@home, etc...

@thijs-janguelen7845

6 жыл бұрын

Fishmonger ! No cuz then ppl would nag that the results are not based on real world results... Because I haven't seen any modern PC that runs 4 gpus pinned at 100% 24/7, thus ramping up the fans

@DevilDoghz

6 жыл бұрын

One... more... year!

@fishmonger1526

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen any modern PC's sit for a while in a construction zone either. Fact remains, everyone's house where their PC is will be different, so everyone's results will vary. The most important thing is how each case compares to each other - so it doesn't really matter what they were doing compared to what you do, just that what they do compare to each other equally.

Now show us how to properly clean it. I'm asking for a friend.

@3DxPOD

4 жыл бұрын

@@b6.b1zz Thank you for the positivity, but some of us would like to learn how to do things the right way.

@DevilMayCare4

4 жыл бұрын

@@b6.b1zz relax.

@DevilMayCare4

4 жыл бұрын

@@b6.b1zz actually you need to make sure you're in an open area preferably not in the same room your PC is going to be in. Also using alcohol wipes can decay some of the plastic in the PC. Dry electronic wipes are a better option. There are so many small things he may not know too like not letting the compressed air blow your fans so you should hold them still. Etc etc.

@DevilMayCare4

4 жыл бұрын

@@b6.b1zz right, but you may know that but not everyone does. Some people like to be careful and safe with their PCs so this man just wanted to know something he didn't know.

@AndrewClunie2011

4 жыл бұрын

@@DevilMayCare4 Knowledge is power, glad you helped this guy out and didn't be an arse about it, glad there is still some decent people in these comment sections.

"luke doesn't work here anymore" Don't scare me like that

@naoised7638

4 жыл бұрын

this video is 2 years old? he dosent work there anymore

@cl4655

4 жыл бұрын

doran idk he came back

@iain3713

4 жыл бұрын

Carl Loreto floatplane is a lmg company

@CaveyMoth

3 жыл бұрын

I see him in the background from time to time. I hear he's on some kind of floaty plane.

@Defender004

3 жыл бұрын

I Hope he Comes back

I don't even honestly remember when the last time I dusted out my system was... Probably need to. Tomorrow. Maybe.

@acehilm7470

5 жыл бұрын

Diego2112Gaming so

@diego2112gaming

5 жыл бұрын

@@acehilm7470 yeah, still haven't done it. Turns out working 12-15 hours 5-6 days a week, you really just don't care, ya know? Lol

@acehilm7470

5 жыл бұрын

Diego2112Gaming ah I see you get that money my friend keep me updated when you do clean it lmao

@notosure2148

5 жыл бұрын

@@diego2112gaming Order a can of compressed air. That way when it arrives, it'll give you an incentive to go do it. Keep us updated.

@cubiusblockus3973

5 жыл бұрын

@@diego2112gaming working that much, you may as well just buy a new computer. why maintain when you can just buy new....lol

I love how Luke starts to chuckle both times when Linus starts the sponsor bit.

@matheuswohl

6 жыл бұрын

he was having way too much fun with that

@ShawnJonesHellion

6 жыл бұрын

shh dont tell the sponsors we all laugh at them xD

I always clean out my pc after a sandstorm. Considering I live in the Netherlands, that never happens, got your answer right there...

@gamergrill4933

3 жыл бұрын

Me living in africa: 😳

@s20_

2 жыл бұрын

herkenbaar

@DaBuddyComToX

2 жыл бұрын

DARUDE anyone ?

@Tuberex

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaBuddyComToX Do dododododo dodododo dodododo do dododododod do dododododod do dododododododododo dodododoo

One thing not mentioned in this is volume of airflow. On the "In betweenie" there appeared to be a lot more dust in the filters than the filters belonging to "Innie". I think this is because of the increased airflow allowed by the balanced system in the case. This means that you might get more dust, but you also get more air flow, and therefore a cooler running system.

@c99kfm

2 жыл бұрын

It also helps that all intakes are filtered, unlike the other two systems.

Linus and Luke hosting, Brandon shooting, Taran editing and Ed producing? I'm not crying, you're crying.

@kaustubh_kp

6 жыл бұрын

Kensworth yes

@amanfrombosniaandherzegovi4026

6 жыл бұрын

That's what skadoodle said

@DavidFrostbite

6 жыл бұрын

NickyV!

@meloD30

6 жыл бұрын

It's a shame they couldn't do it on the kitchen set. But it was cool for Linus to fly them all out to Floatplane HQ.

@TheIshikawaRin

6 жыл бұрын

The old crew

FINALLY

@uhoy1488

6 жыл бұрын

What are you doing here?

@JeandrePetzer

6 жыл бұрын

Eat me Obviously also watching the same YT video you are...

@jensc4265

6 жыл бұрын

just wanted to typ the same reaction untill i saw this one

@MeowjinBoo

6 жыл бұрын

Notice me fashion senpai

One problem with this experiment is the type of dust. Living environments have stickier debris and dust. Skin cells partially digested by fungi, body oils, water from your breath, etc.

@liamjames-hendriks4895

3 жыл бұрын

I'm shocked this isn't really talked about here. Living environments have dust is as you say, plus a tonne of fabrics (carpet, clothes, curtains, bedding) all giving off micro fibres they're used, plus normal house activity bringing in all kinds of particles that are quite different to 'construction' particles which are more like fine dirt, not oily skin and fabric particles.

@AustrianEconomist

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention a lot of people have pets, which would make the situation a lot different lol

@exasperated

3 жыл бұрын

I was eating... *Was*

@yourhandlehere1

3 жыл бұрын

All of that is in the warehouse and offices too...maybe minus kitchen grease but with added construction mess. That's why they mostly looked whiteish...drywall takes over everything.

@akiraic

2 жыл бұрын

@@yourhandlehere1 this. I know it has been 5 months but this is the most important factor. Cooking vapors, be it water or general grease, makes all the dust already accumulated in your computer to "glue" together, forming that THICC mesh of dust, like a fabric really. In the office, you get a nice air conditioning (mostly filtered, dry air), closed doors etc, way different environments. Dude, sometimes I'm cooking and can even feel on my skin the fat/water accumulated after a while, imagine what your pc feels after a few months.

Working as a computer tech I'll say this: smokers have by FAR, the most disgusting machines you could imagine. I remember one in particular, open the side panel and the whiff of tar would hit you like a truck...I started unscrewing the CPU heatsink to change the paste,1,2,3,4 screws off yet the heatsink is still not coming off? What the hell? Turned out the heatsink was actually glued to the motherboard by dried tobacco/cannabis tar.Had to push and pull the heatsink from both sides at the same time lol so gross

@markunit72

4 жыл бұрын

i bought a gpu from someone that smoked, forgot people still did that in their houses. it smelled for like a month.

@jmullentech

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, can confirm. Worked as a bench tech for a couple years and smoker-owned machines ranged from "meh" to "HOLY SHIT". Little brown ghost turds that smell like straight death. That shit is nasty.

@Firenmage433

4 жыл бұрын

Yea if you're smoking in the same room with your computer all day long you aren't doing it any favors.

@EgonFreeman

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually a heavy smoker, and while I completely agree that bezels and such get absolutely WRECKED by cigarette smoke... as long as you service your PC regularly, it isn't THAT bad. It'll give off a stink, though - that's for sure. We smokers can't smell it - other people tell us when it's bad. ;-) Then again, I have plenty of airflow and an open design, so it would never be much worse than my house already is.

@samymasta

4 жыл бұрын

@@EgonFreeman Yeah, I can tell you most people have the simplest, smallest old pc's with basically no airflow...I wish we could upload attachments to comments, I would have put it, like a thick crust of god knows what substance built up between the heatsink and the fan, fucking grooossss. Left it running overnight, came back to the shop in the morning, the whole place smelled of death lmao

*I'm gonna do a frickin benchmark for a year*

@blackblather

6 жыл бұрын

you might be better off mining bitcoins

@julianayala3342

6 жыл бұрын

why not both ?

@reggiep75

6 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see what I could do to murder a machine but within strict guidelines of not just booting the thing around. All tech based and reasonable options to threaten and kill it so it would have to be a planned and structured way of punishing, abusing and compromising a CPU or GPU and just throw everything at it to kill it.

@noone42069

6 жыл бұрын

Drag your feet on the rug and tease you'll touch it!

@MatchitehewXaphan

6 жыл бұрын

Why

"everyone's been waiting, even very famous celebrities" *googles James Allen McCune*

@ethan5356

5 жыл бұрын

K0ncursus Famous actor James Allen McCune? Of sugar pine 7 fame?

@diegoalmanza3

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahah best comment by far

@kakokapolei123

5 жыл бұрын

His full name is actually Famous Actor James Allen McCune

@MIRASLOSS

5 жыл бұрын

@@ethan5356 sp7 is the greatest thing to ever happen to this planet

@BNOBNO14

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3WMj5upZM21lKQ.html

Always have 1 more fan (filtered) blowing air into the case than out. That way you create positive pressure. And because your case has a lot of crevices you cannot really seal, its better to push clean out through those crevices, than pull unfiltered, dirty air in. Then: Clean your filter frequently! The dirtier it is, the more sucking force will be applied by the fan eventually forcing dust through the filter (which otherwise wouldve been stuck in the filter).

@je7055

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the positive pressure camp myself for the reasons you explained, but I only have two sys_fan headers on my cheap little B450M and I wouldn't mind getting your opinion on something. Case came with two 120mm fans, one filtered intake in the center of the front panel and one exhaust on the top of the rear side. Wanted to get another intake for the 120mm mount under the front intake, but the cooling has actually been fine, I don't do any OCing on my 3600 other than XMP. I still plan to study up on fan splitters and will probably get a second intake at some point, but in the meantime, I've been using curves to run the intake a little harder (in DC mode; case fans are only 3-pin sadly) to account for the intake filter and hopefully at least get some slightly-positive pressure. I had the intake fan set to +0.6v higher than the exhaust, this past week I've widened that gap to 1.2v. So at, say, 40c, the intake is running on 7.2v and the exhaust is on 6.0v. Dumb idea, or good enough as a short-term solution until I decide on a fan splitter? FWIW this seems to give me a pretty consistent extra ~120 RPM on the intake compared to the exhaust according to hwinfo, but I dunno to what degree that extra pressure is offset by the filter. It's tricky to find info on setting intake/exhausts to different voltages/speeds, Google usually just gives me a ton of articles explaining the difference between PWM and DC 🤦‍♂

I know its been a very long time since video but I'd love to see a follow up where you investigate the cooling capabilities of these 3 configurations and come to a conclusion about what is the best dust collection to cooling performance ratio

Isn't it strange that for the past 1 year every day of my life I have been thinking about those computers sitting behind that wall living without much of a purpose.

@ggpl8117

6 жыл бұрын

also if they kept them in places where people are and not in hidden room they would probadly have much more dust

@TheAdatto

6 жыл бұрын

They had a purpose now. Clean the air

@pelataan69

6 жыл бұрын

They had purpose this video

On a deployment to Iraq, I noticed that all the computers cpu fans in a high pitch whine. So I open one and there was a literal single blanket of dust bunnies on top of heat sink with thickness limited only by the distance between the cpu fan and heat sink. Along with this a think layer of dust covered everything inside. I took a pair of tweezers to remove the blanket. After going through 2 cans of compressed air, I went to hospital maintenance for a portable compressed air tank. After about 30 min of work that one was clean. It turns out the other 17 units were in the same shape. I don't know how they survived in that condition. After the cleaning I found that the common use computers had multiple user profiles from previous rotation, so I had to clean that mess afterward. You can imagine how bad they were. I just wish I had photos to show you.

@FirasLaallam

5 жыл бұрын

Wtf

@danielzhan86

5 жыл бұрын

Well it doesn't surprise me, it's like the average office except 10x more dusty

@Brandon-vp8oc

5 жыл бұрын

Well, you were literally in Satan's armpit. All that's needed to cure this is a dunk in the Tigris (or Euphrates), a box of grid squares, and an exorcism.

@SkrixFox

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service. God bless.

@armanke13

5 жыл бұрын

Any clue of fans direction and filters?

When Linus says "It really makes me wonder how people get their computers disgutsting enough ect.." In my experience its from smokers. Smoke when laying around in the air, will collect on any surface it touches making something called "resin". Just like tree resin or sap, its very, VERY sticky, and dust, pet hair, dander, all stick WAAY more, than even in the worst case scenario, like a construction site. Unless all of the construction workers smoked like Bill Hicks.

@T2roxT2

4 жыл бұрын

In my experience, its from people with no clue about computers + let us be honest, most average pc users dont have full dust filter setup. Opening my sisters pc after at least 5 years without cleaning or dust filters (she is that kinda person that doesnt even know you could open a pc case) i was in more than a shock. We're talking partially almost an inch of dust buildup, a family of over 10 spiders living in it etc etc.. I really would have wanted to see the video, but with dust filter-less PC.

@biteme263

2 жыл бұрын

Its not just smoke but that is bad on them. Pet hair and thick carpeting will make a mess too. Even the area you live in and how well the air quality in your house is. Mold is another big one. Also most really dirty computers didn't get that way in a year. They were used for years and years and never cleaned or taken apart. That being said I have seen computers six months old with a smoker look worse than those.

Try using an air purifier system, with an ionizer option if you want, for $40-$80 in the room with your PC and you can reduce your dust quite a bit. I've never used a mini-sized or desktop ones, but the taller $80 versions work good. We have one in our living room as well and its amazing how much less dust we have to clean off of our electronics and shelves. As someone who isn't a clean freak, I just enjoy not having to clean as much in general.

Pff amateurs, today I cleaned my case coolers the first time in 5 years. Didnt even knew I had LED's on them since I didnt see them for years...

@CaveyMoth

3 жыл бұрын

Did you use a mop?

I think that a temperature test will tell more than dust in the GPU

@Dizzinator2114

6 жыл бұрын

Enrique Davila that's what I thought they would do as well... Kind of sucked that this video was kind of forgotten about over the year.

@markp8295

6 жыл бұрын

He mentioned at the start, which one is still working... Then didn't say if one broke or not. Guessing that means they all work, so temps would have been good. I feel they phoned this one in.

@kbessudobsb

6 жыл бұрын

Those were just qualitative tests, they can't give any accurate answers. Quantitative tests like Temperature would give us real results. I wonder why they didn't do it. They always show this kind of results in the benchmark videos.

@ArtisChronicles

6 жыл бұрын

Renato Avilez seems like they started this experiment and got everyone hyped and then just didn't wanna bother with it after that

@Cyba_IT_NZ

6 жыл бұрын

They didn't show the GPU fans/heatsinks but I don't think there was enough dust buildup on the CPUs or mobo's to affect temps at all.

Omg i remember you uploading that vid thinking 'dam i need to wait a year'. Today is the first time watching the follow up....3 years later, fuck time goes so fast man

I remember cleaning my very first PC after using it for 6, 7 years, what a gory sight that was. I only cleaned it as it started to turn off due to overheating. (Didn't know much about PCs back then)

What I'm getting from this is that I need to submerge my PC in mineral oil to completely eliminate dust.

@inlovewithgoats1092

6 жыл бұрын

Luckily there is a tutorial for this highly reasonable plan on the channel.

@AsbestosMuffins

6 жыл бұрын

Christian Stout they make hepa cases that you put your computer case in and they pull large amounts of air through an AC grade filter Ive seen them used more and more in shops and factories with the rise of graphically intensive equipment like optical measurement systems

@SaltedSlug85

5 жыл бұрын

I have had a silverstone ft02b since 2009 and only clean the filters a few times a year. The inside is still pretty clean and the only hardware I have changed since 2011 is my graphics card. Best case ever IMO. 3 180mm fans on the bottom blowing straight up (filtered) and the power supply blowing straight up (filtered). Positive air pressure, so there is nothing getting sucked in the drive spaces, etc. No idea what I would replace this case with.

@doomkonb

5 жыл бұрын

@@AsbestosMuffins r/whoooooosh

@PrateekSeth

5 жыл бұрын

Christian Stout i

Brings a new meaning to something just "sitting there gathering dust"

@chloroplast8611

4 жыл бұрын

Cont3mplation like what glados says

After I upgraded my fans for more air flow and went from 2 in 3 out to 4 in 3 out, my dust build-up dramatically decreased. Might have something to do with the 2 extra intake fan slots having no filter, so dust was lightly being pulled in and settling, but now the slight positive pressure and higher rate of air flow keeps it from settling as easily. Most of my dust build up is on my outtake radiator and on the outside of my outtake fans, but even then, I can go 6 months with little to clean from those parts in my dry climate.

A couple years later, I have a new thing you could test. You tested in, out, and in between. Can you test "flow" oriented cases [like servers]? I'm referring to cases where the air is meant to come in the front, go out the back, and with no openings in between, like a wind tunnel. And since the context is servers, you could probably test high fan speeds, medium speeds, and low speeds.

Interesting video but my 2 cents maybe 3. I have been supporting small business systems for over 13 years and I have noticed that if you keep the system off the floor the dust build up is “low” compared to on floor systems. Get the system 2 feet off the floor and different is amazing. I have also noticed that carpeted offices are very bad for build up if the system is on the floor. The worst site I ever had was an equipment rental store that also sold ready mix concrete in the small trailers that you tow behind your truck and spill on road when you accelerate too fast. I would have to clean the cement dust out every 6 months and in some systems there would be 1/8” of dust on the bottom of the inside of the cases. I moved them up to the 2nd shelf under the counter and lost a maintenance revenue stream.

@cardoman3986

5 жыл бұрын

You should get more likes! This is probably the best insight I've read here. Thx!

@vinade2100

5 жыл бұрын

Last words gave me a smile:) Maybe that's why a lot of IT services don't bother about dust collection-dust cleaning revenue

@itsnotatoober

5 жыл бұрын

Thats why you need to put your guys on a monthly fee. But yeah, IT for 8 years, I noticed same thing. He puts the computer on the desk or else he gets the hose again. air hose

@WarPigz0

5 жыл бұрын

Alright, I've got it. Lie to the customer.

@Nathan-cx2wg

5 жыл бұрын

I work in the agricultural industry and dust or dirt is what we work in and is also what we have to keep out. Yes elevation works. the larger particles get kicked up easier but don't float as high. The best solution is positive filtered case pressure. More filtered air going in than unfiltered exiting. This will put a positive case pressure keeping out unfiltered air out. This even will account for seems in the case. Take those filters out every now and then to clean or replace. This will make a huge difference.

i was sure that the tagline on the intro screen would be "another one bites the dust." linus, i am disappoint.

@ARB6769

6 жыл бұрын

Onat KIRA QUEEN BITE ZA DUSTO

@thesuremen

6 жыл бұрын

no result for one year, tired two or three years. how about with pets too?

@benjaminsanchez1962

6 жыл бұрын

Onat hey man, I have a passion for tech and enjoy making quality videos but need a larger audience. Would you mind checking out my channel?

@mattiooo

6 жыл бұрын

Hey disappoint nice to meet you

@tylerchad046

6 жыл бұрын

message taran on some social media about it lol

I literally just bought one of these fractal cases too - & I didn't have to wait a year for this video!

@keylanoslokj1806

3 ай бұрын

Do you have a model to recommend?

Please make more videos on this topic!!

"Let's not entirely dismiss the possibilty that we will learn something today." Classic Linus.

at the beginning, luke was like "tunnel bear..... again, linus?" 😂

@Cyba_IT_NZ

6 жыл бұрын

Luke's awkward laugh when Linus launched into his sponsor spiel

I love these tests. they help a lot!! I am running the recommended setup.

I really appreciate this test. That being said, you should obviously have filters on all intakes. I bet Innie would look fine with filters on everything.

Wouldn't be a LinusTechTips video without Tunnelbear

@kekistansupreme7171

6 жыл бұрын

DaDopeMasta or Ting

@chrispoland3637

6 жыл бұрын

Tunnelbear. We we say FUCK YOU AJIT

@kekistansupreme7171

6 жыл бұрын

Guess Who That Is yeah. I was using avast VPN before tunnel bear

Benchmark with temps!!! please!

@christianf5226

6 жыл бұрын

ZeuxDar I also miss that part

@thorben3625

6 жыл бұрын

Without temps people are like oh all out is great. But it isn't, it is maybe good for dust but not for your temps

@kooliodood89

6 жыл бұрын

Its kinda hard to say if all out or all in is better without doing a real test. With all out, it would almost be like a passively cooled case, which those tend to perform fairly well. But on the other hand I think theoretically all in would do better... Most of that air being brought in is going to just circle around trapped and turn into warm air, but theres still a constant cool air intake to keep it from getting hot.

Great testing nice to see the differences, my passing thought was, as much air in on the front, then out on the top, bottom and rear. Example on this case. Air in at the front to maintain a fresh clean supply (2x fans), Out on the bottom with 1x fan near PSU that should cover the graphics card and psu, I’d also put tights over the the bottom filter where the fan isn’t installed. The top and rear should be outs 3x fan’s, this should maintain the negative air around the cpu and ram.

Two years later and now I realized how much I miss videos with Luke. At least we still have WAN Show

@DFlover123

2 жыл бұрын

I'm living under a rock, what happened to luke?

@hulksmash8159

2 жыл бұрын

@@DFlover123 R.I.P.

Luke laughing when sponsors come out lmao

@MikevanLieshout

6 жыл бұрын

thinking: "I didn't miss this"

Was that Luke from floatplane?

@youwantrsyouneedme

6 жыл бұрын

Douglas m you’re either joking or have not been watching ltt for long

@bananavroom3691

6 жыл бұрын

r/woooosh

@walkinmn

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was weird, but it's nice when there's crossovers

@aviralrastogi

6 жыл бұрын

This video was sponsored by Floatplane.

@mjc0961

6 жыл бұрын

Leo Skingsley *wooooooosh*

I remember the setup video and was really looming forward to the results, so I’m now super confused as to how I’m just now watching this almost 2 years after the results

I'm so sad you didn't do a performance test on these. =§ I remember seeing the setup video and being kinda hyped for the results, but you only published the surface-level. =(

"I wonder how people get their computers so dirty" then literally shows a fancy case with a dust collector

@brendanwomer473

4 жыл бұрын

the cases aren't expensive the one that is sponsored, and actually has fancy shit is only 80$

@helgenlane

4 жыл бұрын

I have a fancy case, but it still collect a ton of dust in a matter of a month. That's because it's situated on the first floor near a window and my building is near a road. I'm probably dying right now from the amount of dust I have in my room, lol.

@lobsterbark

4 жыл бұрын

"Fancy case", my $25 case from 2013 has two dust filters. It's a standard feature, only prebuilt computers cheap out that much.

@TwistedSynn

4 жыл бұрын

true my default computer case that came with the set up when I bought my computer 4k computer by the way 10 years ago came with no filters and only a single exhaust fan.

@kdvr766

4 жыл бұрын

@@lobsterbark my cheap case doesnt have a filter and i got it last year😐

One thing that helped these keep down on the amount of dust is the lack of carpeting. Houses with carpet almost always have more dust.

@vnyggi621

6 жыл бұрын

forgotn1 I have my pc in my bedroom (on carpet) soooo... What they have dust wise is like 3 or 4 month for me xD

@markp8295

6 жыл бұрын

Warehouses with lots of people produce more dust than a bedroom. We have to brush our warehouse out weekly to keep it clean from mud and general debris from dozens of people walking through it. Remember carpets aren't dusty they simply hold dust. So wash your carpet and it won't be a problem for a while.

@olafdesneeuwman8983

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Pearce Don't most big warehouses have air filtering? (Filtering dust out of the air)

@AbsolemLNG

6 жыл бұрын

Get a metal frame that holds your PC off the ground a little bit. Most cases come with them, or you can just prop it up a little bit with a couple pieces of wood or something, and make sure your power supply fan is exhausting. You for sure don't wanna have it directly on carpet.

@AbrahamsYTC

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, I had an old PC before that I kept about 2 inches above the carpet and man, it got almost as bad as these PCs in the span of 6 months. Also the case kind of sucked so that could've contributed. Now I have a new improved rig on top of a glass desk 3" ft high with tile flooring...and the difference is remarkable. After 4 months the dust is about a fifth of what it used to be compared to my old pc.

Oh my God, has it been 5 YEARS SINCE THIS VIDEO????

This is the best episode ever.... I rewatched this over and over to understand because its very fascinating.

*Filters are good, and maximum airflow is good.*

@gilangpermadi544

6 жыл бұрын

appollo 13 reference?

@dos541

6 жыл бұрын

Those mesh filters dont filter anything if you want to keep all dust out of a pc buy the filters that go on ac units the black stuff that looks like foam I use that on my pc and a year later just a small layer of dust and that is with all the fans at full speed all the time

@Dmorris556

6 жыл бұрын

This is truth. also WAY cheaper than "PC" case filters.

@cubertmiso4140

6 жыл бұрын

sounds weird choice to produce those units with dark color. are you sure that those are air filters and not the ones that are used to remove odors with active carbon?

@pwnmeisterage

6 жыл бұрын

Clean the dust filters every few months. Vacuum is okay, wash and scrub is better if an option.

For the amount of time you had, I expected for quantitative results. What are thermals like? What is the air pressure inside the case before and after? Etc.

@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, something more than just : "Oh look they're all dusty..." No shit Sherlock. How about some actual effort and some usable values. Could have done much more.

@robertt9342

6 жыл бұрын

nappydrew they made a big deal about how much work it was going to be to make a video about it, and delayed the results. This seems like it took 15 minutes not including editing, so I think they could have managed 3 months ago.

@MarioDragon

6 жыл бұрын

Temps would have been exactly the same, you can test that on your own system

@Ender240sxS13

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they would have been the same but still would have been nice to see the info, plus there is always the possibility they wouldn't have been the same but now we will never know.

@georgesaliz8727

6 жыл бұрын

No they wouldn't I took an engineers computer where i work and cleaned it out cuz the cpu was throttling hard. It went from easily hitting 70C to barely hitting 63C on a stress test

I'd be interested in seeing the temps over time for each system... great test guys.

@X4R2

2 жыл бұрын

A shorter temperature test, for a few hours, should be enough to compare the systems' cooling performances. IIRC Luke made a video comparing airflow setups in 2015.

Found it! I've been looking for this follow up!

Only took a year of waiting. Also, Luke!

@FantomLightning

6 жыл бұрын

He's so pretty

"Tunnelbear believes the internet should be..." **skips five seconds** "...linked below."

@AnotherGlitch

6 жыл бұрын

I always press L when he starts the ad

@mwbgaming28

6 жыл бұрын

thats the good thing about his ads 1 or 2 taps on the right arrow key and you skip the ad but not the content

@brandonbothell

6 жыл бұрын

Wow I got 206 likes what I just commented some shitty joke

@AnotherGlitch

6 жыл бұрын

NoBrainer it's not a joke, it's a reality

@brandonbothell

6 жыл бұрын

Another Glitch last time I checked nobody likes reality lol

0:19 i didn't watch this for another 10 seconds and thought he actually was fired or something lol. Apparently LMG is building Floatplane, a video streaming service, with Luke leading the program, meaning that while he technically doesn't work for LMG anymore, he'll still be in the building and doing stuff there, just as a part of Floatplane instead.

I think I posted this before but your dry warehouse dust is a lot different (fine grains) compared to most people's house and specifically bedroom dust where there's carpet, bedding, towels etc, those long fibers really stick across heat sink fins and form dust bunnies etc!

A little late to the party, but: a) should've done thermals first! b) blowing air in without filter doesn't reduce the amount of dust inside. Who would've thought?

@wadez1000

4 жыл бұрын

But the parts are really old and might not be stable to run windows on them.

@lorenzomoretti1403

4 жыл бұрын

@@wadez1000 one year, they better be still capable of running windows

@michaelsotomayor5001

4 жыл бұрын

@@wadez1000 wow my dude lol... I had a 10 year old PC that still ran windows 7 and played video games like The Witcher 3.. come on lol

@wadez1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzomoretti1403 those where not new parts even then. Just look at the motherboard color 😂

@lorenzomoretti1403

4 жыл бұрын

​@@wadez1000 lmfao. for real tho computers shouldn't "die" if treated properly and are quality products. this mentality is kind of detrimental as people think old technology is useless when in fact its still very much useful. We need to change this way of thinking or E-waste will continue to increase and technology will become the new gas in terms of global warming.

I feel like my pc looks dirtier than that after a month...

@tyta4977

5 жыл бұрын

Natsu FBreather kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3-lpJdqj8TVlKQ.html

@Noa15Lv

5 жыл бұрын

BlueRanger731 rip my eyes

@Brandon-vp8oc

5 жыл бұрын

@@tyta4977 lmfaooooo

@justbob333

5 жыл бұрын

Thats due to being around a human, unlike these computer off behind a wall where nothings around to generate dust.

@sosscarz

5 жыл бұрын

Think about breathing that stuff. Air purifiers in every room make a big difference in quality of life trust me.

I opened up my family's bean pc like 5 years later and it was literally filled with dust bunnies.

I have had my system nearly constantly running for 1 year with 3x120mm & 2x140mm intake mild filtration, like the course metal mesh on front, 1x120mm exhaust on back, virtually dust free.. its like all the intakes blow the dust around so it can't settle and ends up getting exhausted.. pretty sure that is the main reason you want mostly positive air pressure

Brought to you tunnel (*double tap*)... *Linus Music Starts* much better

@Leonvolt28

6 жыл бұрын

Yukimi Kazari I did exactly the same thing.

@AryanSingh-bv9ec

6 жыл бұрын

I did the exact same thing ☺

@alexandrubossro

6 жыл бұрын

Yaa boiiiii

This video is CASE SENSITIVE 😁😁😁

@HarmfulBacon

6 жыл бұрын

wow

@luckiic5714

6 жыл бұрын

Please leave...

@blackblob500

6 жыл бұрын

On the Corey Cole pun scale, this gets a 5/9 out of 9 for the most bad pun.

@udfbino

6 жыл бұрын

Awdhoot Kanawade i hate you so much for that,dammit. good job

Nice info. Especilly since I am using this EXACT case. I love this case as it is silent, good airflow, and loots pretty neutral.

@hollz1843

4 жыл бұрын

What case is this?

@Lloyd.B.

4 жыл бұрын

@@hollz1843 Fractal design R5 Tempered Glass, I saw someone else say.

I love this channel🤣👍🏻 Personally, I got the inner betweeny setup and it draws a lot of fine dust into the case. I've got an nzxt phantom 410 with 2 fans In the front, 2upper ones and 1 at the back, but it is cooling a lot!

How about a taste test?

@garrettk7166

5 жыл бұрын

A. Random Tastes like time.

@stevethea5250

5 жыл бұрын

Hybby z tastes umami

I live on a dirt road,cleaning out my computers is a every 6 month thing.what you can get from this video is no matter how you flow the air you need to clean it.

@skruuloose

6 жыл бұрын

mbsnyderc have you tried living in a house?

@howardlam6181

6 жыл бұрын

I hardly need to clean my PC even though the pollution of my country is pretty bad because I have positive air pressure (most of the fans blowing inside the case with filters outside). I actually have not cleaned my PC at all for 6 years. I only need to replace the 3M filters (for air conditioner).

@sharifsircar

6 жыл бұрын

In my case* with a balanced setup using an H440, I need to clean every 3 months...clogs to that extent happen around the 5th month

@What-hp2gi

6 жыл бұрын

mbsnyderc that would be amazing

@JonatasAdoM

6 жыл бұрын

3 years without cleaning and my PC looks the same WITHOUT the dust filter.

I have always loved this idea Intake air is bubbled through a water tank, trapping al dust and other nasty things, a fine wire filter on the intake would prevent bugs and stuff getting into the water. the air is then extracted from the top of the tank, above the water, into a computer case which his total sealed off from the outside, apart from a 400 fan at the rear, which is doing all that work. Cooler the water in the tank, cooler the air entering the case, and if the case were constructed from toughened glass and if the exhaust fan had a flap that sealed it, if the fan stopped. I reckon it could look really cool If only I had the time to build one. Mineral oil, nice idea, but very messy when you want to rig it a different way or want to upgrade etc. I'l keep to using that on my chopping block thanks.

@ 2:24 3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.

linus, we all appreciate when you are genuinely excited about something, not when you are trying to be excited to boost theoretical viewability of the video

« It depends » Thanks for waiting

@dexter9313

6 жыл бұрын

Story of every "what's better" video on this channel.

@LRM12o8

6 жыл бұрын

Because it all depends! PC enthusiasts love to constantly fight over what's better with anything PC related, while at the end of the day it always depends. That's kind of the point of this video series, lmao.

@CilusseYT

6 жыл бұрын

LRM12o8 The custom PC world is so vast that there can’t be one single right answer

I need a follow up sequel to this video

My conclusion is : always have filter in front fan airflow going in duh

I live in a dry air climate and my pc looks worse in one week than these do after a year.

@ryansilva9397

5 жыл бұрын

stludachris Arizona boiii

@johnabuick

5 жыл бұрын

I have a german shepherd and burn wood in the winter in a wet climate and you should see how bad mine gets and it's not on the floor.

@WellBeSerious12

5 жыл бұрын

Get an mini/smaller-than-ITX then for lower dust impact.

@johnabuick

5 жыл бұрын

Wellbeserious.......you still have all the same components that are affected by dust like the cpu, graphics card and power supply. Dust doesn't affect the board that much. From this I can see that a case with great filters would work best.

@WellBeSerious12

5 жыл бұрын

Many completely/mostly closed micro/whatever form factors are more resilient than most form factors, but lower performance.

Awesome, I'll keep this in mind for my next PC build ...O wait :(

@drekex6767

6 жыл бұрын

Too expensive freaking bitcoins

@jaredvarner6099

6 жыл бұрын

How about for your current build. Need more fans!!!!!

@anguswu2685

6 жыл бұрын

Drekex Not true. You don’t mine Bitcoins with GPUs unless you are dumb. GPUs are only used to mine other coins like Monero, Zcash and UBIQ etc.

@jaredvarner6099

6 жыл бұрын

I think he was just using a general term for all them digital currencies

@anguswu2685

6 жыл бұрын

jared varner It’s cryptocurrency. Nobody should generalise crypto as btc as they are majorly different. If you are complaining about something, at least know the facts

Loved the video very informative. Wish Luke was around more often, like seeing you guys together.

I've noticed that about my own Fractal Define Nano S. (Basically this but smaller.) I run a slightly positive pressure on the main front intake filter. I've still noticed dust on drives, GPUs, and my radiator/fans, although probably not quite as bad as it would be without one. I guess this design doesn't block the air as much as a thicker one would. -Edit: It's also just generally better when I keep it on my desk vs when I keep my PCs on the floor.

These computers aren't dusty because of the constant running. A persons average computer is dusty because the constant on and off again, feed dust and letting it settle inside where the fans cant blow it away

@michelleroberts1370

4 жыл бұрын

This explains why I don't get a lot of dust in my computers as I run them 24/7.

@mariuswerler6859

4 жыл бұрын

@@michelleroberts1370 You make me proud

@whipivy

4 жыл бұрын

Should always leave your PC on anyways; it reduces thermal fatigue which prolongs component life. So two reasons now.

@technoholic5189

4 жыл бұрын

@@whipivy How about the bills???

@Plague_Doc22

4 жыл бұрын

So what you're saying is that we gamers are more responsible and care for it by using it...Wish I knew this 10 years ago when I was a teen!

You should also do on the floor vs slightly raised vs on a desk for dust.

Day after: *sneezes uncontrollably*

@nw3877

4 жыл бұрын

weak! 1st world countries.

1:00 video starts Yes there is more than just the results - they talk about where the dust builds up, how cases without certain filters may act etc.

I want someone to look at me the way Luke looks at Linus when Linus talks about FreshBooks.

I wanna see Luke more often

A good foam filter will pretty much stop most dust. I used to work in a weaving mill extremely dusty environment. We had to clean air filter which are on our jacquards machine which sat above a gantry at an upper floor level. The ones with a mesh filter the electronics inside got very dusty compared to the newer models that had the foam style filters had very minimal dust. Being silk that we of majority wove it had a coating that that was sort of greasy plastics coating to bulk out the silk. The dust would attach to anything. The foam based filtered.machines would be very clean. When I started my apprenticeship my job was to clean these. The old style ones done monthly and the new foam ones quarterly. So if you have sensitive equipment a good foam filter is.a very good solution similar to you may find in an air box in a car. Definitely more effective than the fold pleat ones which we also trialled. Bit long winded but yeh.

Just watched this and I must say it's pretty logical. All out produces way less dust inside, the only problem with that is it also provides the least cooling.

@redragna3648

Жыл бұрын

That's not true. It depends on your setup, but, even then, it's pretty comparable. The difference would be a couple of degrees at best.

One thing I've found is that when I go to homes where the client smokes, I find a lot more dust sticks in the computer. It's even harder to wipe off, because the smoke residue creates a slightly sticky layer on everything.

@JcRabbit

6 жыл бұрын

Smoker here, can confirm. Nicotine sticks to everything and makes everything sticky with a thin yellow layer of nicotine (including your white ceilings and walls, which won't be white for long). Not good.

@GrantMerle

6 жыл бұрын

its the tar, not the nicotine

@JcRabbit

6 жыл бұрын

Is tar yellow?

@killertek78

6 жыл бұрын

Confirmed, my mom is a 40 year smoker, and has wood heat. I have to go clean her PC at least once every 3 months, it's awful :( Good news she is moving and will be quitting smoking, and no more wood heat! Yay!

@armanclark2401

6 жыл бұрын

wait till u get a vapers pc :) its a little sticky also

Luke's a really sound guy. shame he doesn't make many videos for you guys.

@jordananderson2728

6 жыл бұрын

WOLF Well I mean it doesn't help that he left the LTT branch of LMG.

Damn i miss you two making videos. I want more luke and linus.

The test was done with a pretty decent case, but if tried with a cheap case (like most people use) or even an old one. Results might have been different then, my old antec df85 had more exhaust fans originally and would get tons of dust at every hole and crevice which was a huge pain to clean. I then reworked the flow to have slight positive pressure and all the weird places did not have dust on them anymore, it still builds up overall in the system but in places you expect it to be like fans filters and heatsinks(which are easier to clean). I no longer have to swab every crevice and take the back panel off to clean the wires in the back because air was being sucked in thru there.

Who wins a fight? Tunnel bear or thermal grizzly?

@mhammadalloush5104

6 жыл бұрын

Aviv Gannon It believe thermal grizzly because it is literally some metal

@OrangeRock

6 жыл бұрын

Aviv Gannon Tunnel Grizzly

@ayyblyat9450

6 жыл бұрын

BearGrizzly

I suspect there's a lesson here which no one caught: Outtie was pulling a decent amount of air from the big filter on bottom, sure, and also a bit from other areas. What this means, though, is the pressure near the intake areas was probably lower on outtie than it was on innie, and I suspect that as a result, _less total dust_ was being pulled into the case to begin with. Sure, the dust particles are light, but they're definitely heavier than air, and they're definitely not going to respond to changes in air pressure and air flow the same way that air is going to. I suspect a further test that could add valuable data would be to repeat outtie, but leave all the filtered intakes with no fans, and cover over any unfiltered holes in the case with tape to seal it up everywhere else. I suspect that would result in the lowest amount of dust.

@Sleksin

5 жыл бұрын

Something I wonder is if a fan will pull more dust through a filter than a very steady, equivalent air flow. Because although the total air flow would be the same, the fans are essentially beating air through the filter, while the bottom filter on the outtie, for example, has a much gentler and more consistent flow, with the same net movement of air. Might this make a difference?

So nice and what a year!! I like the inny :D

Would be nice to see a video with fans only on the intake areas (front and bottom) vs one with fans only in the exhaust areas (back and top). The new Fractal Design Torrent case has 2 180mm intake fans on the front and holes for 2 140mm intake fans on the bottom but only 1 spot for an exhaust fan. They clearly designed it to be a "positive pressure" case.

Thanks for the inspiration! my PC shall help filter my air in my room!

I feel like it has been like 5 years since the last video, just because there is so much change going on in my life and so many things happened. This video made me realise how much stuff can happen over the course of one year. It's actually amazing

@mo_is_out

6 жыл бұрын

Well i think that depends on how old you are, i am only 16 so... Yeah

Hey Linus, question for you: let's say you have neutral case pressure and then you add a NHD15 or the Be Quiet equivalent, how do those 2 fans affect case pressure as they are kinda in the middle of the case?

My old case was incredibly bad! It had no filters and my house and especially under my desk is a disaster area for dust, dust bunnies throughout the old case! I just got a new case (Corsair 4000D Airflow), I have 5 fans going in a balanced air cooling setup, I've already noticed some dust on the dust filter at the front and I only put it together a few days ago!

I JUST put 5 new static pressure optimized case fans into my case last week, so great timing with this video! I have all five fans as intake based on an older video where Linus recommended that setup to mitigate dust buildup. However, I see that there's really no "hands-off" fan configuration. I will clean my dust filters every month and take some canned air to the interior just to be safe. *EDIT* Thank you for the suggestions everyone! I've changed the rear fan to exhaust so I still have positive pressure in addition to moving hot air out actively instead of just pulling in cool air.

@TBCool

6 жыл бұрын

19thHour Unless you have a rad behind all of those case fans you have no reason to run SP fans for everything. Take some back for air flow models.

@somedude2492

6 жыл бұрын

19thHour you fucked it in all possible ways. You should not use static pressure fans, and all intake fans is not a good idea.

@Jako1987

6 жыл бұрын

If you wanna good ventilation you will get more dust in. Use less fans and/or good filters you will get less dust.

@joelambert7128

6 жыл бұрын

SP fans are designed to overcome resistance - if the case is restrictive in some way (fine meshes, air filters, grilled etc.) then they may well have been the better choice.

@sdfjsdjfghssfgdsgvfs

6 жыл бұрын

you can use better filters and cover all holes on your case with them but then you'll still have to clean those filters. Btw, no need to clean your case every month. Twice a year is fine unless you got your PC in seriously dusty place.

Thumbnail : HOW MUCH DUST?? Me: Dust 2

Revisiting this since my airflow plan is toast. I wish the "inny" had 2 fans intaking from the bottom vs. from the top. Here's what I'm looking at. i picked up a Cooler Master HAF XB EVO and had planned on a semi-balanced approach. 2-120mm front intakes, the back 120mm as intake and a 200mm as exhaust. Unfortunately, my air cooler (IceGiant ProSiphon Elite) is too tall to use the 200mm fan. Was thinking of going "all in" and hoping the top opening works as a chimney. I was also planning on running the fans on the cooler towards the center and hopefully drawing in cool air from the side opening. I definitely want the fronts as intakes, but unsure if how I should arrange the others. Option 1: Rear fan intaking and air cooler fans blowing towards the side opening and hopefully exhausting. Option 2: Rear fan exhausting and air cooler fans pulling from side (drawing cool in and blowing towards center, hopefully aided by exhaust and convection out the top. Option 3, suggestions? BTW, all openings will be filtered as I picked up the DEMCiflex filter kit for the case.

When Luke left LTT he nuked Linus' heart.

@icedcoffee8561

4 жыл бұрын

ok yall are fucking trolling, is this a meme? I just saw Luke on wan show 2 weeks ago!

@GrimYak

4 жыл бұрын

@@icedcoffee8561 he left and came back

@tedubadu2536

4 жыл бұрын

@@icedcoffee8561 lol he never "left". he works for floatplane.. which is LTT's company

@unoriginalenby4311

4 жыл бұрын

@@tedubadu2536 floatplane media is a seperate company, it's to prevent conflict of interest

@tedubadu2536

4 жыл бұрын

@@unoriginalenby4311 yeah. he works in the LTT offices 🤷‍♂. I'm sure they're financially intertwined in some way though