Why do I get the feeling that it's a fluke?

@miliboy0522

4 ай бұрын

It most likely is

@jackhowe6

4 ай бұрын

​@miliboy0522 Especially if by "fluke" you mean a liver parasite.

@above.average.gaming.natio3026

4 ай бұрын

because you won't it admit you were wrong about tim

@ToniT-to9rr

4 ай бұрын

Because of the first three issues. Still, it gives me a little hope for the ending.

@tsucube4377

4 ай бұрын

Because 75% of the story is shit. If he manages to continue to tell good stories, then it could just be a rough start. But right now, 3/4th of the story is not good.

Finally you learned how to tell a good story and not give a shit about ESG

@jiminverness

4 ай бұрын

They still gayed up Alan Scott. Like that Disney woman who's on tape saying she shoved as much gay into everything she could. Wouldn't be a problem in an otherwise good story, but gayifing a non-gay character in the world of woke, just kills it, like a certain rectal torturing of superman thing. Just throws you out of the story, unless you don't know the characters, or unless you're a shipper.

@andrewvillers6447

4 ай бұрын

@@jiminvernessexactly.

@Jackfromshack

4 ай бұрын

ESG not goes anywhere if you pretend that it is not exist

Okay, the intro did get me interested in this series. THAT is how they should have announced it (minus spoilers), not a "buy this to one-up the haters" aspect. JSG doing more for comics than they deserve.

I've never been in love before so I struggle to understand this idea of being smitten to the point of lacking basic common sense or general observation skills

@chillgoblin9103

4 ай бұрын

Sure, because it was a comic, they wanted to make it flagrant how he purposefully blinded and deluded himself. But usually, it isn't cause by a lack observation skills or common sense. Most of the time, everything was seen by the victim but by exploiting the TRUST that is implicitly attached to a situation; it causes the victim to override their own common sense and observations. Have you ever heard the expression: I knew there was something wrong but I just couldn't put my finger on it? Examples: - Cheating : The partner notices all the signs, coming back later than usual, distancing in the house, weird excuses to go out. Cheater gets caught, in whatever way, all those little pieces that the partner caught on but CHOSE to ignore finally fall into place. - Scammer: Your best bud of all best bud comes to you, shows you this great deal he wants you to put money on, just like he did and the returns will be great. There's this little doubt in the back of your mind during the whole thing but he's your bestest bud, known since kindergarten. So you do, times passes and then one day, poof he's gone. Then it hits, how he discouraged you to get things checked into, the sly deflections, the lack of papers.

@billmcdermott9647

4 ай бұрын

Oh yes….it happens look at shows like who the hell did I marry and programs about scams ……people ignore all sorts of red flags because they love them and want to believe them

@GerardoSantana

4 ай бұрын

I'm sure you've seen some of your friends drop several IQ Points because of love.

@HERITAGE12

4 ай бұрын

Doesn't have to be love. Infatuation can make you do stupid things that make ya cringe down the line.

@EvilLeprechuan

4 ай бұрын

People call it being blind or blindsided but scientifically speaking is it the release of dopamine (and adrenaline in the case of cheaters) dulls the senses and focus, gives you a euphoric sensation, and like most drugs, people will chase it. It is also why lots of people cheat, cause the longer a relationship goes, the less dopamine is released.

I think everyone checked out when alan went down to the docks to have anonomous gay sex. No, it think it was when the mental institution let a transgender person have a wig and makeup and that transgender person didn't even bother to shave his beard and mustache. And that that same mental institution just so happened to have a gay orderly that runs off to hook up with Alan Scott. Or maybe when the main villian and embodyment of homophobia was the cross dressing homesexual, J Edgar Hoover. This issue doesn't fix anything from the previous issues and overall this comic will go down as an embodyment of cringe. Even if that one pannel is actually pretty cool.

I dont think any conservative would be mad at a story that is written good and reflects real time dialogue.

@NerdettesNewsStand

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

Most don't

@chrisswanson5775

4 ай бұрын

Most of them don't. I'm conservative and I don't care about a character's identity as long as they're well written. If companies published more nuanced stories in comics like The Authority or Jupiter's Legacy there'd be less criticism from readers.

@NerdettesNewsStand

4 ай бұрын

@@wingsoffreedom3589 my sides 🤣😂🤣😂

@harryosborne8215

4 ай бұрын

@@NerdettesNewsStandyou’re projecting mad hard. We don’t care, you’re the ones that do.

No matter how good the latter end becomes, the damage has been done because it spent three whole issues meandering about and wasting time. Hard to do the "slow burn" in a limited series.

The title made me think you were talking about the Hal book, but it was always excellent.

If this was the first issue I would have totally brought this.

There's a hope in DC comics today? In an American comics? Impossible.

@above.average.gaming.natio3026

4 ай бұрын

now bow do and kiss the ring

@UnwantedGhost1-anz25

4 ай бұрын

@@above.average.gaming.natio3026 🤮

If the Crimson Flame is attached to the Red Lantern Corps in a similar way to the Star Hart to the Green Lanterns, then that panel showing Allen's RAGE as its power makes nothing but since, as the Red rings are powered by Anger. Right then Allen is showing he might be more like Guy then he is like Hal, at lest in that moment. Still, this deep into the run and this is probably too little to late. If the issues that fallow are at this level I hope I'm wrong, but the first three did so poorly that its a deep hole to dig out of.

Perfect, you can have LGBT characters, we don't care. We only care when the character's ENTIRE IDENTITY is "hey did you know I'm gay!" When you give gay characters even a reasonable amount of depth and no longer make the entire story about their sexual identity then magically we all like the story again! Crazy!

@zionleach3001

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. Some people will still foam at the mouth because a character is female, diverse, and or LGBT. Those people are the other vocal minority who doesn't want this. Being woke and anti-woke means you can't enjoy stuff. I can't enjoy Arcane, BioShock, Borderlands,Blue eye Samurai, Blade and be anti-woke. I also can't enjoy literally any comedian or most entertainment if I'm woke.

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

​@@zionleach3001but I'm anti woke and enjoy those things?😂😂😂 I think you just have a warped perceptiom of what people mean by woke.

@zionleach3001

4 ай бұрын

@@wingsoffreedom3589 I meant the reactionary bad faith actors who call something woke all because something has a diverse cast (who aren't just ESG check-marks) or because a woman is a protagonist. I got called a "sjw seal" all cause I thought Prey at least looked interesting. Most people seemed to like it. I've noticed a few act like the very thing they claim not to be.

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

@@zionleach3001 ah yes I know what you mean I am militantly anti woke but spent an hour arguing the merits of several films called woke. I got pissed when people called Andor woke because the rebel commander was a lesbian even though that did not detract from her character or the plot at all. They even used her dynamic with her partner to enhance the plot since her partner was more dedicated to her revenge against the Empire than investing in her relationship showing the sacrifice and fanaticism needed to start a war with the empire that's good writting.

@Ali-ii8il

4 ай бұрын

no F lgbt charathers and i want alan be back with his wife

It just shocks me that the character that you would never expect, to have a good story actually has a good story.

Sometimes you have to wait until the series is done to see if it will get better.

Fun fact; the best way to own the haters. Is too actually tell a good story. 😱 I've looked on Reddit (so take it with a grain of salt) but most people this comment is trying to represent also hate it.

@silvermknight

4 ай бұрын

But, if you do that from the beginning then you don't get early hate clicks and can't virtue signal.

@zionleach3001

4 ай бұрын

@@silvermknight Well it's that or beg for money just to get by. 🤷 Professionalism, integrity, and respect for other people. Or wonder why your industry is dying. If the people your catering to aren't even interested, you've screwed up.

@freman007

4 ай бұрын

@@zionleach3001 The problem is that the audience they're catering to is too small to actually matter. If a gay person reads comics then the presence or absence of a gay character won't matter to them, and if a gay person doesn't read comics then the presence or absence of a gay character isn't going to get them to pick them up. That shit expensive, yo! Meanwhile the vast majority of men, i.e. heterosexuals, like pictures of pretty girls in spray-on costumes. They like imagining being a hero, because heroic fiction is something that caters to men's tastes. They don't really have any interest in reading about "te gheys" unless the story is really really good. Even then, there are plenty of good stories that cater to their own tastes. It is possible to write for heterosexual men, while including some material that caters to the subsection, but you cannot build an industry around catering to that tiny minority. This isn't San Franscisco.

Maybe the guy is actually good at writing stories and the editors are your fucking his work up asking for him to make this changes. And in this issue he just said: You know what, this is bombing. Can I at least ride it all the way to cancellation my way?

Nah. They already lost me. They can't win me back. Too little. Too late. Moved on...

taking it for the team

*insert shia labouf applause meme here*

I actually think the idea of vlad being straight works better as it makes the betrayal even worse. And it makes sense , the new bond films with Craig flirted with the idea early on . Spies do what they have to to get the job done and any interaction with em could be a lie . Natasha probably did the same in the marvel 616 😂

Credit where it is due.

If bad remember, the ring of first green lantern of earth (yalan gurr) was used 2 make Alan's lantern, so vlad most be a red lantern 1

I think this would've been a good series if the writer just focused on the story instead of just trying to own people.

Wait a second. Someone told a good superhero story with two gay men? 🤯

The Green Laterns use Hope, while the Red Laterns use Rage Each Color uses a Different Emotion

Nah sorry, I am not going to support the bastardisation of what was one of my favourite characters.

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

That's more than fair I am still mad marvel made Iceman gay and changed his whole personility even if it's good it's false advertising. That is not the original character it's a new one whereing my character like a skin suit. Now all they need to do is make a new character with that good story and we are good.

@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS

4 ай бұрын

@@wingsoffreedom3589 thank you for understanding how I feel about this. Though I would also say that nothing from the modern era of X Men has been particularly good so it's a double insult.

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS no problem like I said I get it most people give me the "why do you care" speech when I bring that up they murdered my Iceman and replaced him with a mutant skrull. I have no hope for the MCU X-Men either we all know even if they use the Fox XMEN they will break canon and make Iceman the new one along with ignoring that mystique is BI and not very faithful and just make her a full on lesbian with destiny the whole time.

@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS

4 ай бұрын

@@wingsoffreedom3589 if you look at the recent disclosures from some of the former writers they are actively told to not read the comics. The people in charge for the most part actively hate the original audience and are legitimately trying to "deconstruct" (read destroy) everything that came before. But at least we can say that it's no longer a speculation about that, people who are working within the industries ( comics, TV and film) have gone on record stating as much. It might be the start of things changing, but I don't think that I will hold my breath, my hobby that was a window into the innocence and wonder I felt as a child, is for all intent and purposes dead.

It is fascinating watching your review of this series, and finally I can vicariously feel excited for it. The first three volumes had promise and some sparks of inspiration, but never really seemed to commit to satisfying plots long enough to make them worthwhile. THIS is worthwhile. Even if it is just for this one volume, this Green Lantern seems interesting and fun, even if it relies on a trusting, dare-I-say idiot ball protagonist. I don't even mean that as a knock against it either! It's okay to have good role models make mistakes cause they trust other people. That's the whole real world issue with Trust; it makes you vulnerable. But a HERO should still want to, especially when young. I think it's a good foundation for a fantastic emotional conflict. And let's be real, justifiably using two lanterns at once just sounds like a dope idea that I'd love to see put to ink. Looking forward to the next one. Let's hope the streak continues.

😂 Allen being too love struck to keep his homework on base is wild, but im sure this peice of the story is actually interesting. Glad they figured out something actually interesting to do.

Nobody cares if the red lantern is gay or not. As a new character he will be whatever the creator writes him to be.

If 5 and 6 keep this up, I might actually buy the physical run.

Alan pulled a Batman! Kudis for that!

maybe they were screwed by the editor on the first three?

This seems too little too late

I have been saying this for years, if you want to tell a story about gay characters, tell a story about gay characters, nobody will care either way as long as the story is good. I'd say the same about trans characters, or any other kind of character you want to tell a story about. You can start with the character and write a story for them or you can write a story and then add the types of characters you need for it, as long as the story is good, nobody will care if they are white, black, gay, straight, bi, any other skin color, any other sexuality, or any other religion. But it's like for years writers and artists have been so focused on crushing up the identity politics and then forcing them down people's throats like ground glass, so focused on hurting the people they don't like by taking away the things they enjoy, that they have been mentally and physically unable to write good stories, unable to draw exceptional art. In reality, if they really stood for the things they claim to stand for, they should have done this from the start. If they had written Iceman like this instead of making him an unlikable tool and then going "You're just mad he's gay now!" everybody would be happy.

Might get the trade paperback now.

Why wasn't it this from the beginning????

0:36 WAT

Nice cover

I am a conservative. I have no issue with gay characters in comics. I love the Alpha Flight and they have the first ever openly gay male character in comics with Northstar. What does turn us off, is that when a character is canonically something and then for shits and giggles they are rebooted to be something they never were. You’d think you would understand this with how they are trying to retcon and rework Tolkein’s works in something that never was.

I think I'll wait for the next issue before I hand out some credit. Call me a skeptic, but we have seen too often that these guys just fumble the ball before getting to the end zone.

Do you plan to review the upcoming The Last Airbender TV show ?

It really is a shame that there's a good plotline in all of this - and had it not been pushed by people with agendas first, above their storytelling aesthetic

@chrisswanson5775

4 ай бұрын

This title might have sold well if DC had pitched the actual storyline being about spy espionage and personal betrayal as the main selling point for the books instead begging people to just buy it for the sake of diversity and to own the bigots.

Essentially create a story about strait characters, then turn them gay for the browny points.

...so...do you think the fact that Red Lantern has a beard means that his wife is also a beard?

İt went %100. I love it.

I mentioned this on another comic review video. This story should have gone to Midnighter and Apollo or just been a solo Midnighter series. They’re already established gay heroes and James Gunn is planning to introduce them in the Authority film. So why not bring some spotlight to those characters. It’s really annoying that people like Tim Sheridan claim to want diversity in comics but continue to ignore the already established gay characters. But that’s how we can get comics back on track. Call these people out with OUR knowledge of comics, by calling out their hypocrisy for continuing to ignore the already existing gay heroes in comics.

Issue 2 didn't need to be what it was, it could've been a purely hero issue that also showed his sense of self

I honestly think if this wasn't a Green lantern comic in the had done something else or had used different Green lantern I think there'd be a lot less people caring it honestly sounds good I'll keep my ears out and see if this is worth picking up it's only been like six comics I've considered from the big two worth buying in my mind this may be one

Unfortunately too little, too late

I love your avatar JSG I wish you had a comic…

What if you're right wing but you are not pissed off by a good story with gay characters ?

@stuarteaston1629

4 ай бұрын

Ah but you see that simple concept doesn't compute for people like JSG. To them anybody right leaning must hate them by default, which of course is dumb and untrue.

@JustSomeGuy

4 ай бұрын

You would be the most unique of snowflakes. You should be found and set in crystal to be admired for ages.

@ZeroDepresiv

4 ай бұрын

@@JustSomeGuy Aha... So you Do have issues.

Took too long

I care less that Scott is gay than that he was retconned to be that way, having been seen as straight for several decades beforehand. Like with Iceman and Tim Drake. I agree with you JSG; if this had been the way the whole thing had been written, the first three wouldn't have been flops. I mean you could've started the comic out with that awesome looking drawing where Alan was about to own or actually owning the Crimson Flame - then backtrack into those three issues to provide context for the argument, and then rejoin the scene wherein now the audience would know what the hell was going on in the first place and all the backstory surrounding it... and that might have gone better as well. At least this time lessons were learned. Now it's up to Sheridan and his team how far they'll take it.

@garycannon4644

4 ай бұрын

nah man you dont just erase 30 - 80 years of history like that. thats in bad taste you want queer characters? make new ones that are interesting with stories similar to this issue

@R-A-9

4 ай бұрын

Agreed

@freman007

4 ай бұрын

@@garycannon4644 It's just difficult to write good stories with gay characters when the only character the writer gives them is being gay.

I might not understand Lantern Lore but how is he, a Green Lantern using a Red Lantern?

@blacksmoke6292

4 ай бұрын

I think in some comics, you can use a combinations of lanterns rings. Guy Gardner used both Red and Green Lantern rings at the same time.

@blacksmoke6292

4 ай бұрын

Also, this is the old Green Lantern when it was just a magical artificial and not a sci-fi organization.

I'm glad JSG finally got a good issue out of this run. I will say that what JSG pointed out around 6:40 into the video (about how Sheridan finally wrote a good issue after three bad ones) might sadly be a case of the good, current issue being the exception and the first three bad issues being the rule--not a case of "I can write good issues whenever I want, but I kind of conserved my creative energy on the first few issues before I got serious." For JSG and Lantern fans I hope that is not the case, but Sheridan just being a bad writer who bats .250 when it comes to producing good books is the simplest and most logical explanation.

Even though this is a better story. I still don't like when they change legacy characters.

Yay woo hoo 💃 💃 💃 finally 🥰

This was great if only the same can be said for other characters with this level of writing including those that are canonically homo and bisxual.

¡ Hell Yeah ! Also nice, the Crimson Flame is now Bisexual Disater Very Nice

Still a hard pass for me. Glad that others enjoy it though.

As someone who follows alot of "anti-woke" channels, it's nice to come across woke media that can be unironically enjoyable

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

If it prioritized plot over message than its progressive not woke.😂

@VongolaXanxus

4 ай бұрын

@@wingsoffreedom3589 in my defense, I thought those two words were interchangeable

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

@@VongolaXanxus nope plenty of people liked womder woman and she is inherently progressive black panther is also considered progressive what matters is that the message is subservient to the story not the other way around I've called christian propoganda flicks right wing woke before when there plot makes no sense and people only like it for the message too.

@necrosteel5013

4 ай бұрын

Woke refers to media that is anti-norm Just being LGBTQ+ is not anti-norm having a crappy story on purpose is anti-norm.

@wingsoffreedom3589

4 ай бұрын

@@necrosteel5013 not really LGBT is fringe and an extreme minority of people. It's more.about the contezt it's presented ratger than how normal it is.

Huh?

So we’re talking Black Widow but with a man in the role?

If you say so... 🤔

Finish without sexuality at all. He has him identified as "gay man" now focus on the "man" part and play out the rest of the Person.

This is what I try to tell people. It's like you said: write a good story, and the rest will take care of itself. I don't care that a character is gay or whatever, as long as it's not there JUST for stupid personal politics. Like Captain Jack Sparrow from Doctor Who, was such a good character (and gay af) he got his own spinoff. Make your characters whatever sexuality you want, but don't shoehorn them in without any context. Sure, this Red Lantern is a tad conveluted, but they TRIED.

This is either going to make people cheer with glee or shake their heads in sadness. Either way, bring on the self-improving criticism. If I were to do something like this, it would involve two Trans Women. With one being a hero who has accepted the fact that there are people who will never see her as a woman or even a worthwhile human being but still wants to help everyone. And another who, after stewing for so long in her own hatred, becomes a villain going after anti-LGBTQ people. The latter tries to bring the former over to the dark side by showing her various transphobic online posts from all over the world. She asks "Look at what these assholes think of us! How could you *NOT* be angry at this??!!". At first, the former is bothered by the posts. But she takes a deep breath and simply responds with "Being angry is good for getting high blood pressure, not solving life's problems". The VTW, unable to persuade the HTW to her homicidal side, would become angrier and angrier; to the point of seeing the HTW as a "traitor to her own people". This would result in an epic bloody brawl between the two. With both trying to get the other to see their side amongst the destruction.

Why did Val kill those people?

@JunKurosu

4 ай бұрын

Revenge

What the hell you talking about this book was not good it's not getting good at all All I did was make Allen Scott look like a terrible person retconned a lot of the JSA stuff retcon Green lantern's powers made Red lantern a complete idiot and for what so they can smash each other That's not a good story to tell I'm sorry I don't know what the hell you reading but you ain't reading no Green lantern story hell you're not even reading the good superhero call me out of all the superhero comic books you really want to sit here and say that there's finally hope for this please stop.

i like how they properly made his sexuality mean something, as they kept bringing it up without a payoff like this it would have just been hollow pandering. still the series dosnt sound that good as apart the ending when he consumes the power it sounds a lot like the literal basic story board of any hero with little to no fleshing. the art style is great though.

Yo, this is a good story. It’s an example of being able to do that without shoving other things down your throat is being more important than the story itself; I still don’t like this, though it would’ve been great for original characters, but these are established characters, at least Alan Scott is he had kids he had a life that was a whole background that existed long before this and they just switched it up just for the E.S.G. nonsense still so I still gotta give it a pass.

Yeah NO. Pass.

...Then why not start with that sort of quality instead of giving dogshit first issues? Yeah sorry, not reading dogshit stories because it gets good in the end. Doesn't work in movies, doesn't work in comics.

Color me shocked it was actually good if not great. See, this is how you should write diverse characters. X character just so happens to be such and such but that isn't their whole identity rather a part of it, perhaps an important part but still a part rather than their entire identity. Too bad the earlier issues were so poorly plotted.

Wait you want to tell me that main plot of GREEN LANTERN is love between two unstable gays that were to afraid to comeout of their closets, and all these rings is just magic a method to run away from reality of them being gays?/mindblown I never seen more passionate gay loving story, do a movie about it asap, throw in more of that sweet plot. FFs, i miss old based times with edge and sexy women, to fight evil and tell good story, but now only stories about male prostitutes in GL comics.

Still pretty gay

Still a hard pass from me.

Wait... how is that good? Sounds like Days of Our Lives... but gay.

@Ramsey276one

4 ай бұрын

Bar was low from the start XD

I don't like that this is a sexuality change. I'd rather they told a story about obsidian as he's interesting and already gay.

The amount of comics where the sexuality was the focus never happened until recently a hundred years of comics and only recently did their prefernces become centered focus, which is why comics are failing, just stick the basics and you can't fail.

Yeah but it's too little too late. I saw enough pages from the first few issues to not want to buy it no matter how much it improves. Don't even get the whole rage makes the ring work thing - Alan Scott is more than a muscle guy - now it's the angrier GL gets the stronger GL gets???

We been saying ALAN SCOTT should be the ultimate Green Lantern villain. He should be a Deathstroke or Peacemaster type anti hero. The type who doesn't believe they are a villian or wrong.. His ring is unique and he has all the same powers as a Kyle Raynor but on another level esp w/ the darkness side of his ring/lantern etc... I

The first 3 could've been stripped fown to 1 and this could've been issue 2 but that would've required more self awareness, prioritizing of pacing and less soapboxing psuedo- intellectual " Critical Queer Theory " filibustering and we simply can't have that in 2024 now can we?

what is it with you and the constant "anger the right wing" thing give it a rest. even right wingers can get behind a good story even if the mc is gay. this constant droning of sticking it to the right wingers is just cringe worthy after it has gone on this long. thats why yall cant right good gay characters because youre too busy trying to win an argument that no one is having with u.

@blacksmoke6292

4 ай бұрын

Ehhhhh, I can agree with some conservatives when they ruin characters just to be diverse. But some conservatives do just hate when a story isn't apart of the social norm or isn't making the social norm look good.

@MrCodey360

4 ай бұрын

@@blacksmoke6292 this can be said of literally anything that involves peoples opinions. my point isnt that there are no conservatives that'll hate anything lgbtq, its that they should be ignored completely and the story should be made without making sticking it to them as a goal, make a good story and move on. the story will speak for itself.

@blacksmoke6292

4 ай бұрын

@@MrCodey360 So what are you talking about? You said they're arguing with an invisible enemy when it's clearly, conservative/right wingers criticizing it, which isn't a problem but why is it a cringe worthy when someone being as reactionary as they are but towards them? By ignore, do you mean not shove it down your throat every constant second? If so, I can agree, I'm not trying to see it everytime cause it ain't my cup of tea. But some conservatives tend to get pissed at a simple kiss from the rainbow community or the sight of two of them being together. if your argument is to not have a focus romance scene then that should apply to majority of everyone favorite comics.

I didn't like DC retconning Silver Age GL to add a whole spectrum of lanterns and I don't like this reinvention of a "Red Flame" that has never been part of Alan Scott's continuity. The retconning in the past is nothing compared to the crap DC in general and Tim Sheridan in particular are doling out.

amazing. it's almost like we shouldn't criticize media until we see the completed project

@TheatreStyle

4 ай бұрын

Nah

Nope. Character destruction. Any actually gay character and Im fine. Poor story telling