Grain Spawn Experiment FULL: Finding the best type of grains for mushroom farming

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Fresh from the Farm Fungi's Gary dives deep into grain spawn exploration. This video covers the full comparison between millet, wheat, rye, oats and pop corn grains used as grain spawn! The race is on and yields are on the line in this exciting Myco-experiment MUSHLOVE
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  • @alexv259
    @alexv2592 жыл бұрын

    OK here is the deal: For the last 4-5 years, I have been watching so many and many videos related to mushroom growing, so I can learn about this science, in terms of doing the most with the least amount of work and expenses. If I had my own Oscar award organization, I would have given this video the TOP AWARD in lots of categories. The first one would be: you truly took the time in PLANNING the topic you wanted to present. The second category, lets call it STAGING, you generously set the stage for all different grains for benefit of your viewers! That means you CARE and have EMPATHY for viewers like me from Missouri so you went the extra mile for creating small size grain containers. Also an award for executing your research plan for extended number of days. Keep up the good work!

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🍄❤️

  • @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238

    @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree 💯% , very informative video, I love experiments like this ! Plus this guy seems like a nice person and authentic, anywho take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

  • @raymondgoldie6162

    @raymondgoldie6162

    Жыл бұрын

    Would have liked brown rice tested. It is used all over the world and is available. The ones tested are often not available... I'm in Philippines...thanks.

  • @bozzigmupp510

    @bozzigmupp510

    Жыл бұрын

    But he did not explain anything about the bulk substrate 😕

  • @mushlove69420

    @mushlove69420

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@bozzigmupp510 that wasn't the topic of the video. So that makes sense. He covered the topic of the video very thoroughly I thought.

  • @MycoDogs
    @MycoDogs2 жыл бұрын

    best mycology channel on youtube

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @JuryDutySummons
    @JuryDutySummons8 ай бұрын

    I wonder how a millet/popcorn blend would work. The millet could fill in the gaps around the popcorn, letting you pack in more calories.

  • @michaelhansen6977
    @michaelhansen69772 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I love that it wasn't a series, but rather a full start to finish video. I am ready to start growing and your videos have helped a lot.

  • @rustyvessel5086

    @rustyvessel5086

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude get tf outta here with that shit. This is KZread

  • @allendanco5406

    @allendanco5406

    2 жыл бұрын

    Potential nark alert

  • @ImproveMushroomCultivation
    @ImproveMushroomCultivation2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Gary, what a great experiment, and thanks for sharing it with us. The so-called porosity is another factor that can be used to determine if the grains tend to be more on the dryer side or the wet site. Here, Oats are more on the dryer side, and corn on the wet side. Wheat, millet, and rye are in between. Congrats on the new book.

  • @bryamuuareme329
    @bryamuuareme3292 жыл бұрын

    Gary, this video was genuinely awesome! I especially enjoyed being shocked on which grains cane out on top for times and weights. Thank you SOO MUCH for sharing the journey with us on this!!

  • @GM-rs2fv
    @GM-rs2fv2 жыл бұрын

    So stoked to watch this. Thanks for documenting your grain experiments!

  • @erikdutch6268
    @erikdutch62682 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for asking questions, finding answers and sharing the process. Love your content.

  • @rorysoley2945
    @rorysoley29452 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this experiment, we loved it. Keep them coming

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great info Gary. Looking forward to getting your book. Enjoyed your contributions on 90sm live stream.

  • @mckeeverspruck3406
    @mckeeverspruck34062 жыл бұрын

    Such a dope video. Really cool to watch the experiment process!

  • @rickkishka4347
    @rickkishka43472 жыл бұрын

    I will say, your workshop was incredible. Thank you

  • @elizabethr2908
    @elizabethr29087 ай бұрын

    Great video! Thank you so much for running that experiment! What beautiful mushrooms . I’m a year late discovering your videos but I’m learning so much from your channel ❤

  • @jaymeventers6249
    @jaymeventers62492 жыл бұрын

    Epic video! By far the most educational, start to finish, thorough KZread video I've ever seen. Well done!👏

  • @erndog64
    @erndog64 Жыл бұрын

    Gary.... you did an excellent job on this video. Thank you for showing people how fast millet gets the mushrooms growing! Keep up the good work!

  • @thinkingmushrooms2943
    @thinkingmushrooms29432 жыл бұрын

    Love this video. Thank you for sharing your work and passing along this knowledge.

  • @jktriple_g_129
    @jktriple_g_1292 жыл бұрын

    That is a big ass flo Hood

  • @DuneNobleman
    @DuneNobleman Жыл бұрын

    Gary, always a pleasure. Been following you since the beginning. I like your rubber band trick for side fruiting prevention. Mush Luv Dude!

  • @SparkyHelper
    @SparkyHelper2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely great experiment! Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @steve-o6937
    @steve-o69372 жыл бұрын

    Great video, keep up the awesome work! I love to shake and break my grain spawn 24 hours before I run it on bulk. Gives it a extra boost with the head start. Mushlove

  • @RenegadeMushrooms
    @RenegadeMushrooms2 жыл бұрын

    Great experiment, not the result I was expecting. Thanks for the vid 👍

  • @abgoldate
    @abgoldate2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your informative videos Sir.

  • @claytonpike8247
    @claytonpike82472 ай бұрын

    Super grateful that you posted your experiment here. I’m did a mix of rye and millet at a 7/30 ratio and it worked spectacular. Shortly after my first break and shake it was full colonized within days

  • @emiliordache-hobby
    @emiliordache-hobby2 жыл бұрын

    I am from Romania and I am happy to follow you. The problem is that I don't know the language and google doesn't translate well. However, I understand something with the help of images. I'm a beginner in the field. I think it's a fun hobby. Thanks for all the tips!

  • @buttonmushroomsspawn3108

    @buttonmushroomsspawn3108

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello

  • @BenBSeattle
    @BenBSeattle Жыл бұрын

    Great video I appreciate you showing the progression

  • @SubFlow22
    @SubFlow2210 ай бұрын

    Great video, you can tell a lot of thought and effort went into this. Really appreciate it.

  • @jasminha9785
    @jasminha97852 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this complete video.

  • @mchaney2003
    @mchaney2003 Жыл бұрын

    Best mycology video I've seen on KZread. Thank you for sharing so much information with us!

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks! 🍄❤️

  • @Curkri
    @Curkri4 ай бұрын

    Really helpful experiment. It's great to finish with what really matters, it's whatever you can get cheap! And that's going to vary based on Time, Location, etc

  • @Johnny-ur2st
    @Johnny-ur2st2 жыл бұрын

    I've been testing on barley. Seems to be fine. A 50lb bag for 12.50 from a farm store. Wild bird feed works also it has a mixture of everything.

  • @bitlifter
    @bitlifter6 ай бұрын

    Excellent experiment, I really appreciate you sharing this information. I’d love to see a ‘grow-off’ between wheat, millet, and sorghum/mylo ❤

  • @Sidebranches
    @Sidebranches Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing this information with us all.

  • @helxis
    @helxis Жыл бұрын

    I think an experiment like this would be best performed over a long term, recording averages. Otherwise a single instance like this is going to be anecdotal at best. Run solely corn for a few months. Measure the performance like you did here, but average it across many, many bags. See how it performs with different species. See how different levels of moisture affect the performance, etc. Then repeat for the different grains. I suspect there a lot more variables here affecting the results than what grains were used, personally. The good news is this: all the selected grains produced mushrooms! So for newbies, the key lesson here should be to "just start!". Don't be afraid. Buy whatever is cheap and easy to get, and use it.

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    yes my own experiences are reflected in this video but once I have more data I will revisit this

  • @MartynasShnaresys
    @MartynasShnaresys2 жыл бұрын

    I did similar test, considered combination of their hydration capacity, size, nutritional value and price. Rye is almost pure winner in my book, especially when i pay 1$ per 10lbs*. *Buying directly from small farmer, which doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides or herbicides. They aren't the most pretty ones and cleanest, but washing and separating floaters solves the problem. Floaters are amazingly well accepted as spawn run by Ganoderma btw, so nothing goes waste.

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    cool thanks for the ideas!

  • @pamelawillis9714
    @pamelawillis97142 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! As always.

  • @cheebacheeo5876
    @cheebacheeo5876 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for love!

  • @danushkajayasooriya574
    @danushkajayasooriya574 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gary for sharing knowledge

  • @ronnierowe6764
    @ronnierowe67642 жыл бұрын

    Amazing man. A well thought out experiment with a well executed video. Love that it was all one video and I didn't have to search for parts. Keep up the good work and I always look forward to you on 90s lives.

  • @pyrocircus129
    @pyrocircus1298 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy the videos, you seem to break things down into layman's terms! Keep them coming

  • @rsandilands
    @rsandilands10 ай бұрын

    What a great video - compelling viewing! The suspense was killing me! Well done.

  • @wingnut4200
    @wingnut4200 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice. You obviously thought a lot about this and the delivery was great. I also think at current pricing Oats is the sweet spot. But I would never have really known it unless you ran that experiment. Great job.

  • @kemaltasyurek
    @kemaltasyurek2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this valuable video

  • @kevinfromcali7062
    @kevinfromcali70622 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fabulous video very helpful and super informative very well done thank you!!!!

  • @emisaelortega
    @emisaelortega2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man really helped me out!

  • @sakunthalabandara1807
    @sakunthalabandara18072 жыл бұрын

    Great ..Excellent Experiment Process....n Clear Presentation any Lament can Folow easily...

  • @liambay4636
    @liambay46362 жыл бұрын

    Great video keep it up man.

  • @18Hands
    @18Hands2 жыл бұрын

    Millet is awesome, although with prices as they are, Whole Oats is the cheapest, best option for my grows. It was 16 bucks for a 50 lb bag of whole oats and now it is up to 26 bucks. Millet is 42 bucks for a 50 lb bag.

  • @8legs9
    @8legs92 жыл бұрын

    Great analysis

  • @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238
    @whitefordpipeshandmadebymi7238 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation! I learned a lot and was fun to watch . Thanks 👍 take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

  • @mariob.6418
    @mariob.6418 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the work and Info. Regards from Germany

  • @deco1976
    @deco19762 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Great info 👍

  • @walterkennison802
    @walterkennison802 Жыл бұрын

    good work great information thank you

  • @leedoolan1893
    @leedoolan18932 жыл бұрын

    Great video by the way.

  • @dalesteiner150
    @dalesteiner1502 жыл бұрын

    Awesome videos.....your teaching.....I'm learning ....thanx for the great videos!!!!!!!!!

  • @nerdoutreachprogram5358
    @nerdoutreachprogram53582 жыл бұрын

    Milo (sorghum) grain is my preferred spawn. It’s excellent.

  • @MissBlackMetal
    @MissBlackMetal2 ай бұрын

    20:18 REALLY good to learn that you can still send a stalled grain spawn to bulk and it can still continue myceliating and spring back into action!!! Seems like the yield may have been lower due to the stall, but "lower yield" is infinitely better than "no yield" 😁 Thanks, Gary!!! 🤘🏻

  • @DolemiteSammich
    @DolemiteSammich2 жыл бұрын

    awesome video. thanks for the info!

  • @koltoncrane3099
    @koltoncrane3099 Жыл бұрын

    If you ever do the test again you might want to try using whole grains like ya did and then do another set with crushed grains like say rolled corn just to see if it speeds up colonization. It’d be an interesting test

  • @jakealomani
    @jakealomani Жыл бұрын

    This video was awesome!!!

  • @Chris-uh3cm
    @Chris-uh3cm Жыл бұрын

    Super awesome video thanks !

  • @karmacharmer
    @karmacharmer2 ай бұрын

    Awesome information, thank you😊

  • @mikejeannotte6642
    @mikejeannotte66422 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid, dude.

  • @MnyrlindseyTV
    @MnyrlindseyTV Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @pheresy1367
    @pheresy13672 жыл бұрын

    Spoiler alert!!! Wow! so the pop corn caught up in the end.

  • @devilette
    @devilette2 жыл бұрын

    Hey neighbor, I'm here in Denver too. Very cool experiment, just getting into cultivating gourmet mushrooms and I'm finding the process and engineering to be some of the most fun parts. I'd love to see a rundown of your equipment and setup (if you haven't posted something like that already). I've hella gotten way ahead of myself while waiting for my spawn to colonize, I'm attempting to design and build an embedded control system to monitor and handle FAE and humidity automatically in the fruiting phase. Mostly for fun, I'm sure it's extremely impractical. But it's been an incredible learning experience as I have done several "dry runs" with a kind of mock bulk substrate to test the system. Your videos have helped me a ton, so thank you! I'd love to take a class if you start doing those again.

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    cool! Check out our farm tour video here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYeW27WCkZjScqg.html There is definitely a need for this in the market space right now I use inkbirds amzn.to/3wPjfle but they do not have a CO2 sensor so it took a bit to dial in and still continues to drift now and again. If you could manage that and keep the price point reasonable Id be interested for sure! Also, check out the video on air exchange explained in breaks down the environmentals more

  • @cheeselord8153
    @cheeselord8153 Жыл бұрын

    My dream is to one day just do expirements like this but on a massive scale, like 30 bottles of each and averaging together all the data, and repeating and all that to truly determine stuff like this

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to be able to finance these efforts as well - Give me about 10 years to grow the business and I can hire you for R&D

  • @johnwinger7504
    @johnwinger75044 ай бұрын

    I have been running tests using popcorn, with another grain that I used with 'Sillies' - Brown Rice. I also put coffee grains in there. Hydrate the grains separately, and combine. Imagine how many thousands of inoculation you end up with. Plus, the coffee is a good source of nitrogen. Humans like coffee, too.

  • @laddcraner4170
    @laddcraner4170 Жыл бұрын

    great study, tyvm

  • @diegoramosg
    @diegoramosg Жыл бұрын

    Great content!

  • @dhaval4570
    @dhaval45702 жыл бұрын

    wow you really went ALL in

  • @gregorybiggs2068
    @gregorybiggs2068 Жыл бұрын

    Especially corn may benefit from a few pulses in a blender. Very interesting work - Thanks!

  • @Sludge73
    @Sludge732 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this one. Thorough work. Very cool seeing the progress and outcomes in one video. Outstanding as always. Thanks for sharing.

  • @metalheady5632
    @metalheady56322 жыл бұрын

    love the head to head comparison, but would have been nice to have seen my favorite grain milo in there too!

  • @britpopification

    @britpopification

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes milo is a great spawn

  • @m.a.9052
    @m.a.90522 жыл бұрын

    Its great to learn from ure experiments. Love this channel. I will experiment in near future with mycelium for product design in my studies, so its nice have people like u, who share their knowledge. 💚 Maybe an inspiration for u. I thought about starch und glucose based hydrogel, if crunched could be a good spawn material. It could be a more controlled medium. Anyway Go ahead 👍😁 and greetings from germany.

  • @tomykottackal4180
    @tomykottackal41802 жыл бұрын

    Amazing Great job, thank you Sir.

  • @cool7654321
    @cool7654321 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this info

  • @robertcoulson483
    @robertcoulson483 Жыл бұрын

    As popcorn has a very hard outer layer, consider using cracked field corn ? Whole corn fed to cattle passes through their digestive tack and come out whole. Pigs eat the cattle's manure and can digest most of the corn. Chickens pick through the pig's manure to get the remaining corn. Gross, but breaking the grains hard coating it the answer to higher feed conversion.

  • @HolisticMotion
    @HolisticMotion Жыл бұрын

    Great content bro. I’m also here in denver.

  • @bckpage
    @bckpage5 ай бұрын

    I got 50 pound bags of oats -- the cleanest oats I have ever seen! -- at Tractor Supply, for only $10 per bag. I won't be using anything else for mycology work. The man who helped me was trying to get rid of them. Someone ordered 50 bags and never picked them up. I win! 🎉🎉🎉 TRIPLE CROWN WHOLE OATS, NATURAL is the brand name. I didn't have to pick out a single bean or a piece of straw out of it. I've been looking for a clean grain. I finally found it! 🙌🏽

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    5 ай бұрын

    good day to celebrate! 🎉

  • @Gorkilein
    @Gorkilein Жыл бұрын

    I used rye all time and always shook it up. I've never seen mycelium stop growing afterwards. I lately decided changing over to millet.

  • @spoot8835
    @spoot8835 Жыл бұрын

    cool experiment.

  • @ravitejaind
    @ravitejaind Жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial !! Can you make a video on how to create spores before inoculating into the glass jars.

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    yes we have one here kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4ep1rN_fdTVYMY.html

  • @bro3162003
    @bro3162003 Жыл бұрын

    Great information, great work, 100% A+++

  • @magnumjgjg
    @magnumjgjg5 ай бұрын

    Brown rice is a fantastic grain to use for starting spawn

  • @William_Asston
    @William_Asston Жыл бұрын

    im astonished by the differences in yeild. maybe it's just probability or the later flushes will equalize them, but from the data, i'd think its definitely worth to look deeper into what makes a little bit of millet move the needle that much

  • @triple_gem_shining
    @triple_gem_shining2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love your content. I'm a journey man mycologist. Been practicing for a few years now and just got my first flow box a 4 foot by 2 foot one starting to get my lab going. I've tried quite a few grain types but always love to gain (grain) more knowledge from a professional and traditionally trained mycologist like yourself.

  • @thematrixcentre
    @thematrixcentre2 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Just love you channel. Like to know your opinion regarding brown rice for making spawn. Thank you.

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    it works but it can get very sticky and is easy to overcook - but if it’s cheap and accessible it can be a great option

  • @syberphish
    @syberphish2 жыл бұрын

    One of my other issues, even with wide mouth, is using quart jars; because the jar is still more wide than the opening. With the 1pint wide mouths, the opening and the jar are the same ID, so the stuff slides right out. Quarts are ok if you have a long transfer needle, but otherwise the 1pint wide mouth are great for both spawn and lc's; it's really the only size you need with jars.

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes this is true but I like how many fit inside a pressure cooker especially doing test batches 👍

  • @mattnsim
    @mattnsim2 жыл бұрын

    I found corn very interesting. It always seemed to lag behind but always came back with a vengeance.

  • @isaaccutlip5815

    @isaaccutlip5815

    2 жыл бұрын

    I only use corn after using wild bird seed

  • @mattnsim

    @mattnsim

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@isaaccutlip5815 it’s often the cheapest grain too. I use wheat on my farm.

  • @isaaccutlip5815

    @isaaccutlip5815

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mattnsimyea if I just want to make 3 quarts of spawn I buy a bag of popcorn for like $1.50. I hear wheat berries are the best but I've never tried them. Do you grow it yourself on your farm? Or is it just a mushroom farm?. My dad planted some feed corn this year so I might crack some and try that.

  • @CheesieGamer
    @CheesieGamer4 ай бұрын

    I was in Colorado a couple of times ❤

  • @venderpara7895
    @venderpara7895 Жыл бұрын

    ive had this 3 to 4 inch radius straight up stems canopy round first white then light brown shades tan look as they get older around 2 weeks cicle then they go down to and fade away only to pop up again a short time later they look huge y started mulch and pine saw dust to grow peach lemon tangerine fig etc little trees and wehad unusual mist cloudy cool weather all 23 year and they been fun to watch dont seem to hur the plants will see dont know much about them

  • @AzimuthAviation
    @AzimuthAviation Жыл бұрын

    Gary, your videos and sharing of mycology are first tier here on KZread. What prevented you from testing brown rice here and what are your thoughts of using it as a grain substrate? I see you used rice in your cordyceps project 2.0 and I'm considering using it being easily obtained and inexpensive. Thanks!!!

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching and following along! I think rice gets too sticky for grain spawn - it can be done but it’s easy to overcook

  • @hm6174
    @hm6174 Жыл бұрын

    Please make a video about chanterelle grain spawn and in Petri dishes.

  • @philipm3173
    @philipm31732 жыл бұрын

    Wish you did brown rice as well but good job

  • @gomezfriesen
    @gomezfriesen Жыл бұрын

    Very cool experiment! I love the cost analysis at the end. Follow up question: Oat prices have more than doubled this last year for me. Is it still your go to grain spawn?

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    yes it only went up about 10-15% for me so it’s still by far the cheapest

  • @AmunoRuralHub-zy6gx
    @AmunoRuralHub-zy6gx3 ай бұрын

    Man be my mentor in mushroom farming please, you are so passionate about it and I'm too

  • @attalahdehbaoui2137
    @attalahdehbaoui2137 Жыл бұрын

    Goud job

  • @ivanangelototola2472
    @ivanangelototola2472 Жыл бұрын

    Excelente seu vídeo. Você pode explicar como esterelizar os grãos? Obrigado. Brasil/ES

  • @vincentwu2848
    @vincentwu2848 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video, it's really nice to see properly documented experiments. It would have been pretty neat to see how these grains compare to your previous procedure of inoculating onto sawdust. You had mentioned that your previous procedure involved spawning to sawdust to save on costs -- have you noticed any major benefits from switching to grain spawn? It seems like sawdust would beat out all the grains in terms of surface area, so there must be some drawback I'm missing. I've also heard that mycelium "remember" what they are fed and adapt; for example if they are inoculated in oak dust, they will colonize an oak based substrate more quickly. Have you observed anything that would tend to confirm this phenomenon? If so, maybe a mix of grain and sawdust might perform even better for multiple reasons. Thanks again for the great presentation!

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    Жыл бұрын

    yes the grains hold more water so the yields are higher - with space as the bottle neck I had to switch over but I may revisit this 🙏🏻

  • @pauloantunes8826
    @pauloantunes88262 жыл бұрын

    Hey Gary! Great video as always! Why did you stop using sawdust spawn?

  • @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    @FreshfromtheFarmFungi

    2 жыл бұрын

    mostly because it was getting harder to source and store. but also yields, speed of growth and consistency between batches improved when I switched to grains

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