Why are they pretending that they don't understand what Keown was saying. They literally have a colleague who played for spurs saying the same thing!!!

@rubamann

24 күн бұрын

SJ is an assh ole. He once implied that Arsenal's lack of trophies, good performances during the late Wenger's eras was somehow due to the rise of the AFTV and its fans as if those people had some say in the running of the club. However he can say the similar thing about Spurs.

@DeathWillBeUponThee

19 күн бұрын

It was part of it not the main reason but a part

It's funny how everyone has forgotten that actual Chelsea Players more or less said they would throw the game against Leicester to stop Spurs winning the league. Actual players, not pundits or fans.

@sempereadem54eadem64

25 күн бұрын

Oh yeh we only won it by 10 points and the Bottlers finished 3rd 😂😂😂😂We didn’t need Chelsea for any favours

@Jaml1986

24 күн бұрын

Is that the season spurs finished 3rd in a two horse race ? 😂

@NickChemist-yf6oj

24 күн бұрын

Was that the year spurs finished third in a two horse race ?🤣

@Jaml1986

24 күн бұрын

@HGMM83 you’re either clueless about football , not very bright or just a spurs fan which both apply ! Which one are you?

@chrissteers5997

24 күн бұрын

They didn’t say that at all you whopper, they said they would give Tottenham a game in the hope it would stop them winning the title, they said nothing about chucking a game against Leicester.

Jamie a former Spurs player has been saying exactly what Martin said. Simon is just being stubborn and silly taking low jabs at Martin for no reason.

@anubis8918

25 күн бұрын

Key word-former

@eghosa92

25 күн бұрын

@@anubis8918 so the question is how many more former or current Spurs players who are Spurs through and through would think the same? it can't be jettisoned as nonsense like these 2 class captains are trying to do. Simon on this matter needs to stop digging his heels and they could put calls out to people who know more about the club's inner workings to speak then we could know the reality of things

@anubis8918

25 күн бұрын

@@eghosa92 ohara thinks that because he is a spurs fan. He was a spurs fan before he was a spurs player. He's talking from the context of what he currently is,a spurs fan. What he thinks as a player and what he thinks as a fan are 2 very different things

@noble7461

25 күн бұрын

West Ham has never been a rival. Rival suggests parity. Spurs are not a rival either. Just a local small club with allot of fans.

@dannytallmage2971

25 күн бұрын

@@noble7461that describes all the London clubs except Chelsea.

Simon is holding on semantics. Of course Martin meant the Spurs fans

@barneyhall2753

25 күн бұрын

Why did Martin say players, owners and managers then?

@Cbart23

25 күн бұрын

Simon must protect his Daniel Levy.

@KOA0693

25 күн бұрын

@@barneyhall2753 Simon mentioned owners not Martin. He mentioned fans consistently. You’re either deaf or stupid and/or support Spurs

@user-bh4tg9vu5u

25 күн бұрын

@@barneyhall2753he didn’t, he just said Spurs and Simon twisted it

@dannytallmage2971

25 күн бұрын

@@user-bh4tg9vu5uhe absolutely said the players. Crazy you’d lie about this. Swarthenal fans and bold faced lying.

Martin didn't say owners or management he was simply speaking about the spuds fans😅

@syc2543

23 күн бұрын

He didn't have to. Ange has come out and said it. Conte and Jose did. It's over for any sort of actual rivalry.

Just listen to social media and your own talk sport channel, Keown is absolutely right.

Martin is bang on!!!!!!

@jeannotschumacher1024

25 күн бұрын

Of course. And they all know it😂

@leroysimon5692

24 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

@sidbob1215

24 күн бұрын

Proper pathetic fan base 😂

@muzikkification

24 күн бұрын

@@sidbob1215 all fanbases are the same genius

@sidbob1215

24 күн бұрын

@@muzikkification that’s funny. Did you see city fans accusing Utd of throwing the game against arsenal the other day??

Tottenham have 1 league Cup in the last quarter of a century.........nuff said.

Every spurs fan I have spoken to is willing them to lose 😂

Souey talking about the dressing rooms he was in is irrelevant. For two reasons. 1) his dressing rooms were never the Tottenham in this equation. They were the Manchester City. So he does not have that same direct experience he alludes to. 2) The world has massively change since Souey retired. It was possible in the 80s and even 90s for players to be largely ignorant of what fans thought beyond the atmosphere in the stadium. Now with social media, with 24 hour sports news it is almost impossible that those Spurs players are not hearing their own fanbase say "please do not win this game." It's okay while the game is 0-0 or if Spurs get in front but I promise you if City score first there will be players on that pitch for Spurs who feel a sense of relief at that and their desire to press for an equaliser will not be what it would have been if this game was 6-8 weeks ago. That is just the reality of the world we are in. Keown was right.

@Jamesadams210

18 күн бұрын

You are a clown. Simple !!

Martin using reverse psychology

Remember everyone it's Spurs who are completely obsessed with everything Arsenal do, they even made up a day for celebrating finishing above them. Oh wait...

Spurs fans still celebrating the 2008 league cup

@omegaman6494

25 күн бұрын

like arsenal fans still celebrate the 2004 invincibles

@djrampantuk

25 күн бұрын

Obviously I was there like the rest of the trophies I've seen while you're crying online about it 🙄

@user-vd6em1ie6v

25 күн бұрын

@@omegaman6494 lol big difference

@peter6914

25 күн бұрын

@@omegaman6494 league title>>>>>>>>>>>milk cup

@TheSink1000

25 күн бұрын

@@djrampantuk what are you on about?

Martins right, I want us to lose against city

They’re gonna get pumped regardless.

Martin is absolutely right all my spurs mates said they'll happily forfeite the city game but they can still make the champions league 😂😂

@TP-pq9xx

25 күн бұрын

If they beat City they can still (and probably will) miss champions league so it would be the worst of both worlds. Aston Villa only needs to beat Palace who are already at the beach.

@willtallis5275

25 күн бұрын

@@TP-pq9xxno they aren’t palace have been every team lately are you deluded or ill

Someone last night was saying they would rather spurs relegated than see Arsenal win the league. Small club.

@JWIA67

25 күн бұрын

Just a pathetic attitude to have. Cutting off ones nose to spite their face

@darrenkilbane2613

25 күн бұрын

Bloke who said he would rather see spurs be relegated than see Arsenal win league is a stupid remark...but bottom line is everyone hates Arsenal but there supporters

@gabrielabarros2036

25 күн бұрын

The problem is you Arsenal's fans who think everyone has to help you all the time. It's not Spurs' or West Ham's problem that you din't do your job properly and are now in your two rival's hands.

@TM-uh1qp

25 күн бұрын

@@gabrielabarros2036it’s not about getting/begging for help. Ofc the fans want other clubs to help in the final day of the season. The reality of what is being discussed is professional integrity and clubs being/playing equally competitive against everyone and especially not downing tools to help/dent a specific team.

@craigrothwell6144

24 күн бұрын

@@darrenkilbane2613 Their supporters!

Martin was talking about the Spurs fans. I would argue though that Levy was always looking over the fence at Arsenal’s new stadium and training ground and had to make sure they were bigger. Arsenal has always been Spurs’ benchmark.

@lesmartin8131

25 күн бұрын

Arsenal have the largest training ground in Britain and Shedsea modelled their gaff on the Arsenal training ground . As ever we lead, the rest follow ...eventually.

@garyowen9242

25 күн бұрын

True but Spurs have both the best ground & training facilities in England.

@leroysimon5692

24 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

@jmo4952

24 күн бұрын

Well he achieved that as both are levels above Arsenal's, so Spurs are the benchmark for that now.

@ballysillanbsbc3363

24 күн бұрын

​@@jmo4952 yes exactly spurs were jealous of Arsenal so they had to go and make a bigger stadium and better training grounds but still they are not even half the club Arsenal are😂

Simon and Graeme proceed to laugh off everything Martin said …… few mins in every spurs fan that rang in basically backed up Martin’s opinion, Simon needs to get over his hatred for Martin and smell the roses , even presenters in there own studio are saying what Martin has been saying

@leroysimon5692

24 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

He's spot on

The verbal gymnastics continue. 😂

@leroysimon5692

24 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

The same thing happened when spurs were in the champions league final. Arsenal fans on AFTV said they’d prefer to lose the Europa final if it meant spurs lost the CL final. It’s called rivalry

@Cesccy

25 күн бұрын

Arsenal fan here: I agree with you on that. I was 1 of those 🤣🤣

@thf3038

24 күн бұрын

​@@Cesccyexactly. And can you honestly say if the roles were reversed you wouldn't want city to win?

@Cesccy

24 күн бұрын

@@thf3038 I got no issue at all!

@nicolascastillo7065

24 күн бұрын

The difference is that if Arsenal lost Europe or won it, it had no influence on the CL. If Tottenham goes with the attitude that the fans want, they will be investigated for match-fixing, that is the difference.

I was driving to work yesterday and saw a British geezer with a spurs shirt on. I put my window down and said to him “you guys better win!” He responded to me with “I certainly hope not”. I was stunned and just left 😆 crazy ass fans.

Funny how no one is suggesting Man U threw their game against Arsenal to make things harder for City 🤔

@willtallis5275

25 күн бұрын

Beucxase there was no way in hell United were ever wining that match

@danieltan6742

24 күн бұрын

@@willtallis5275 assnal are struggling in that game did you not watch Im sure even Casemeiro would agree he gifted them the goals.

@willtallis5275

24 күн бұрын

@@danieltan6742 one mistake doesn’t mean arsenal were struggling we had 2 shots on target at a game at home they was completely comfortable

Levy does, remember when he tried to block the Ozil deal to Arsenal when Spurs were selling Bale to Real Madrid

Maybe next time Arsenal should rely on themselves instead of their rivals

@AB-gb6zz

24 күн бұрын

Arsenal have been brilliant this season and with correct refereeing decisions would already have the title wrapped up...what is your point?

@helmtk4562

24 күн бұрын

@@AB-gb6zz they haven’t been good enough otherwise they wouldn’t need other teams to help them. You have to be perfect when going up against city it’s just a fact this isn’t nothing new. Look at what Liverpool had to do just to win 1 PL from them doesn’t matter how brilliant arsenal have been when we know against city you have to be near perfect

@AB-gb6zz

24 күн бұрын

@@helmtk4562 Arsenal have lost at least 6 points this season due to suspicious referee decisions. City have gained at least 6 points through dodgy decisions. The league is rigged.

Watch the spurs fans celebrate tonight after they lose to 115fc. Then you’ll see the mentality. Proof will be in that snapshot of behaviour.

Alright boys..no team talk today..just go out there remember dont forget the highline

I'm a spurs fan and all I care about is our own season. I would rather put pressure on villa. I enjoy the fact that city struggle against us.

@NickChemist-yf6oj

24 күн бұрын

You’re a real one good luck to your team on Tuesday .

@GermanChickenwing

24 күн бұрын

Dude you are not that park the bus team no more that City struggle with

@danielturner7213

24 күн бұрын

@@GermanChickenwing 3-3 against city earlier season with Royal and Davies playing at centre back.

@GermanChickenwing

24 күн бұрын

@danielturner7213 I believe you know the difference between then and now.. A bad inform City and a good inform City are different

@danielturner7213

24 күн бұрын

@@GermanChickenwing of course. But no reason to fear city and that last game spurs weren't in the best form either.

How is 1991 nearly 40 years ago? Can Martin count?

@ali19231

25 күн бұрын

it's gonna be 40 soon anyway why are you so pressed

Graeme’s argument is flawed because he’s saying professionalism will prevent Spurs players from not trying. But he’s also accused players eg Utd players, of not playing for managers in the past and trying to get them sacked! So clearly, professionalism doesn’t always ring true

@dannytallmage2971

25 күн бұрын

So that’s an entirely different argument than martins. Yes professional athletes are incredibly lazy so it’s like Tottenham players won’t try very hard but they aren’t doing it because they dislike arsenal. It’s because they dislike exerting themselves.

@KZ-ky2er

25 күн бұрын

@dannytallmage2971.. not quite. Basically, if Graeme can argue that in his opinion a dislike for the manager has made players act unprofessionally and not try hard enough, then he can’t say what Martin is saying is not possible

didn’t Arsenal fans say they’d happily lose the Europa League if Spurs lost the Champions League in 2019😂

So has Keown got inside information about Tottenham's objective ?

Well said Graeme 👏

Expecting the club you taunt all the time of being inferior to help you win your first league in 20 years is the type of delusion you can only get from Arsenal fans 🤣🤣🤣

better keep an eye on the match for match fixing

I haven't heard or read one asking any gooner, if the roles were reversed, would they want to win and help Spurs achieve the Premiership?

@tevildo45

25 күн бұрын

That’s funny haha imagine spurs winning a trophy

@markyp1965

25 күн бұрын

That would require Spurs to be in the position to actually win something, in the first place. That said, if position were reversed, I would still want my team, Arsenal, to win. The team I support would always come first.

If they can’t get in the cl which might be the case after tonight why would they give arsenal a helping hand there’s zero upside

Arsenal have to play the undefeated Tracky DYCHE 😮

@kiguyecollins3443

25 күн бұрын

At the Emirates on the final day of the season☺️🤗

@agentancelotti2985

25 күн бұрын

@@kiguyecollins3443 the ginger Simeoni will not want to lose 😎

@willtallis5275

25 күн бұрын

@@kiguyecollins3443lol emirates helped you last season didnt it you pleb you already bottle it against West Ham and Fulham during festive period

@micman2048

25 күн бұрын

@@agentancelotti2985if City pass the test against Spurs it won’t even matter cause they’ll probably steamroll West Ham

Everyone forgets Utd vs Spurs in 1999 then, up 1-0 at HT last game of season, Ferdinand admitted they didn’t want to play second half, lost 2-1. Utd won the title.

Sir Jordanite & Souness = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts

24+hrs Keown was right. Ange has said it now, Conte said it, Jose said it. No Arsenal fan should ever see them as rivals. Idc about NL proximity, 1900s promotion nonsense. It ended last night.

Ange went against the fans saying it won't role the red carpet out

@ifldiscovery8500

24 күн бұрын

not the players. Vicario will not play well tomorrow he is in on it.

@kylowhen2639

24 күн бұрын

*roll

Of couse Souness rejects it. It's hardly surprising

Arsenal fans would want their side to lose against City if it was Chelsea that stood to miss out on the title and they had nothing else to play for (I’d say spurs as well but let’s not be silly, that wouldn’t ever happen)

Martin set the place a light. Errr no Jim ffs 😂

Leaking roof @ old trafford is indicative of the the football team

@kylowhen2639

25 күн бұрын

Ok. If you stay in the bath too long your fingers go crinkly

@willtallis5275

25 күн бұрын

The roof leaked like that when Fergie was there but beucase they were winning nobody said anything about it get a grip the stadium is well old

The fans, yes, woudl not want it. But Ange didnt' grow up a Tottenham fan, did he? Did Son? or Van der Ven or Richarlison? It won't mean much to them. Souness is right, players are professionals and it's a job. people in any job generally want to do it well, if not only for the money.

Thank you Graeme.

As an Arsenal Fan I must be somewhat odd.For myself, just as long as Arsenal beat Tottenham and finish higher in the League that is enough.I am not anti Spurs or any other Team for that matter.Interestingly, over the years, several of the players have had very good Friends in the opposing camp.Hoddle and Graham Rix come readily to mind for one. Interestingly I thought that Manchester United were trying against Arsenal Yesterday.Particularly so when looking at their recent performances.What is the difference then between them and City viz a viz the two London Clubs.

Integrity of the league will be gone if a team decides to loose.... and the other team becomes Champion

That Luke is an absolute whopper. Probably a Twitter fan who has barely stepped foot in Tottenham. Prat.

No football fan wants their arch rivals to win the League! Probably not at the expense of your own teams ambitions but if it came to it and a loss meant your rivals also lost - happy days.

@willtallis5275

25 күн бұрын

And that’s why spurs don’t win anything

It’s a weird take from Keown seeing as it’s the Arsenal fans that celebrate St Totterings day or whatever it is.

"all these Tottenham fans" its ridiculous 2% fan base click bait . Whats amusing is this type of reporting is across all spheres of media

Funny how Jim rephrases the point to "Arteta will hope Spurs do them a favor" which is completely different from "Ange will be okay with/complicit in Spurs losing" Gross political mind!

how many times have spurs finished in front of ARSENAL in the PL?ONCE OR TWICE IN 25YRS

@andywood233

25 күн бұрын

6 times. 16/17, 17/18, 18/19, 19/20, 20/21, 21/22. Might be worth you going back to school to learn counting

Not just embarrassing for Spurs but football fandom in general. Plastic soulless clubs, equal plastic soulless fans. TV has killed the game and deep down it knows it has.

Worrying about Arsenal is small club mentality. We had our chance to stop arsenal from winning the league and we wasted it. We can not let arsenal live rent free in our heads , we have to be bigger than that.

I would like my team to every game no matter what come on support your team ⚽️ always Evesham football club

Actually it is Arsenal fans that want Spurs help and are depending on a result. If they are worthy champions they don't need help from others.!

@craigrothwell6144

24 күн бұрын

They have to beat Everton first and I would love spurs to lose and miss out on champions league again only for West ham to draw with City :)

Simon wont dare speak about Keown this way if he was in the studio.... An Article he wrote 18months ago has nothing to do with Spurs lacking ambitions of their own. Chelsea players and fans also dont want Arsenal to win the league but they still gave a proud account of themselves against City in both legs. Everton dont want Liverpool to win the title but they played their best game for about 75mins against City and Arsenal this season. Even United despite their poor state and not really being in a top4 race anymore gave Arsenal a strong game last night. The conversation about downing tools was never had by the players or fans of any of these clubs,especially when you have the possibility of getting CL football . I think that is Simon's point.

@kylowhen2639

25 күн бұрын

Jordan calls out Keown all the time! Why "wouldn't he dare"? Psychical violence? Grow up

The fact is we won’t know if the spurs players do or don’t play to their potential because they’re getting battered either way😂

Agree with Souness

Where was pride the last 5 games??

And that’s esactly the attitude as to why spurs never win anything your fighting for champs league and to get your manager better players which won’t won’t happen without champs league football and that’s also why spurs get the spursy tag line

They laugh but Martin is being proven right with all the spurs fan media pundits and fans that call in hoping spurs lose...

How can Souness shut this statement down when it's all we've been hearing from Spurs fans the last week or so.

Martin sounds angry that he knows the league has gone

Who cares what the fans think it's what the players do on the pitch doesn't anyone really believe the spurs manager will tell them to go out and lose the game what a load of bolloxs players from 7/8 years old have been brought up to win that's why they make it as a professional souness is totally right

Look at the comments section, Martin is bang on right.

If city go 2 or 3 goals up i genuinely do believe spurs fans will make a mockery of the game lol

Well that is a lie isn't it? Whilst Arsenal weren't winning titles. Arsenal were still FA cups.7:41

I have to disagree a bit with Simon and even more so with Graeme. I think the latter sometimes forgets that the players of his day were actual warriors who fought tooth and nail for every point. This generation of footballers are diva types who, whilst being competitive in their own right, are also dealing with the lifestyles of modern footballers. It simply doesn’t mean as much to players these days, especially considering the influx of players to whom local derbies and historic rivalries are meaningless. Which of the Spurs players actually HATES Arsenal? Skipp? That’s about it. Also, I do agree with Simon that the ownership and a number of the players will care more about winning than preventing Arsenal from winning the league, but to use that to undermine Martin’s point, someone who actually lived the NLD for decades, is odd. Far too many Spurs fans care more about Arsenal than their own club. Their measure of success is Arsenal’s failures because they have no success of their own to celebrate. Spurs could be in a UCL final but would be more worried about Arsenal finishing 4th. That’s their mentality. Small club and pitiful inferiority complex

Spurs fan here and I want Spurs to WIN EVERY GAME . PERIOD . . . . . . . I do think City will win but I want us to play to our best regardless . The only time Arsenal matter is when we play them .

In 2016 european championship Italy let ireland beat them so irish fans would support the italians playing spain in next round Ireland beat italy in last minute Italians let ireland beat them, so irish fans would support italy against spain, as spain had the hoodoo over italy at the time So such things like teams doing things in there interests, does happen, even today After that game, italian players were celebrating with irish team, as like i said italians wanted the irish fans to back them playing spain, as spain had the hoodoo over italy at the time. Just told you something none of you know, to prove souness wrong, when he says teams do not work out ways to get what they want even if it means losing themselves.

@kylowhen2639

25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂🤡

In all honesty Arsenal should have beaten Villa. Then they wouldn't be in this predicament. It is all being well analysing Spurs' stance on this, from players to the fans. But Arsenal fans and players should not be relying on Spurs doing them any favours as much as Spurs fans should not be worried if they manage to beat City tomorrow. If City win, Arsenal have themselves to blame a few weeks ago against Emery and co.

Spurs fans can talk about not wanting Arsenal to win the league & whatever but there's 90M on the table for whoever gets 4th spot. Take it or leave it?

How many premier league titles do Tottenham have?

@lesmartin8131

25 күн бұрын

ZERO

@craigrothwell6144

24 күн бұрын

Spurs whole season is about how Arsenal are doing, As usual :)

Let’s talk about someone who’s not even there. Pathetic.

@leroysimon5692

24 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

Keown's right.

Sorry but Keon is talking rubbish. My Arsenal mates never stopped telling me that they didn’t want us to beat Liverpool in the champions league final. And if the roles were reversed ,they’ll be the same. So fans yes but players no, they have a job to do.

Keown shouldn’t confuse the fans with the club. There’s no doubt every Spurs fan would rather lose to City to ensure Arsenal don’t win the league. However Ange and the team will certainly want to give a good account of themselves and if there’s a chance of finishing 4th they would definitely take it because of the riches the CL brings and the opportunity to sign better players too. I’m sure Daniel Levy would agree too.

I loved it when Chelsea beat Spuds to stop them and hand the league to Leicester 🔴⚪ AFC

@re-vitiligo

24 күн бұрын

I also loved Liverpool beating them in the UCL final 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

Seems Keown was right.

If Tottenham beat City, Arsenal’s title belongs to them.

Arsenal player telling Spurs how to support their club ? You just worry about Man City losing.

Keown spot on with this Tottenham are a tiny club with a small club mentality ran for profit with a fan base who would rather arsenal don’t win the PL than qualify for the CL. Tottenham fans let the PL down tonight celebrating their own teams loss disgraceful im not even an Arsenal fan btw

Arsenal bottled it against villa Martin. It has nothing to do spurs

I though spurs where going to be above the gunners not looking to good is it

Citeh will win easily. Mark my words. Spuds will not help Arsenal win a league title.

SPURS ARE LIKES SMALL CLUB - WHAT A JOKE OF A CLUB

arsenal fans are obsessed with tottenham flood all their channels everyday.

If Aston Villa win tonight Spurs will definitely lose tomorrow as there will be no CL next season.

Its Arsenal, not a super club, Martin Keown should not be a pundit, Man City will win coz they are the best team in England, Arsenal are probably the 2nd best at the moment !

I'VE PLAYED THE GAME

Most spurs fans HATE arsenal...we dont want to see them win the league we aint going to hear the end of it for years....and to all the comments talking about small club mentality just remember the arsenal fans NEED spurs to win so they win the league...that is small club mentality right there.... any spurs fan who wants us to win so we can go get smashed in the champions league needs to give their head a wobble...we are not ready for champions league football right now, besides we still NEED villa to mess up so i dont think we will be getting champions league football anyway...so the best spurs can hope for is watching our rivals not win the league...just my 2 cents

Jack Grealish will fire Villa home

Ange should move on from these loser fans. Well, they're not fans. They need counselling.

WRONG - Man City will smash em both - Man city will 100% be Champions and they are a juggernaut, total machine, Incredible, Invincible