'Not animiated on the touchline' - Didn't Jim White criticise Arteta for being this way earlier in the season?

@Nooguysorryyyy536

25 күн бұрын

Jim 😂 poor sap, ignore him.

@zattanna74

25 күн бұрын

from what i see in the media doesn't matter what the guy doesn't he going to get hate. basically 2 clubs in england get more hate from anyone man u and arsenal you dont see any other teams, their managers and players get the same hate from the media

@DavidLawlor-ci8wz

25 күн бұрын

Yuup they all did . In fairness Arteta calmed down mid season.

@ItsAv3rageGamer

25 күн бұрын

@@DavidLawlor-ci8wz Arteta is the same every single match. He just gets all the focus when the likes of Pep and Klopp do exactly the same.

@hanzosiku

25 күн бұрын

The premiere league is like that ex girlfriend that complained when you did something and complain when they eventually are with another guy that doesn't do those things she complained that you did.

Jim, Arteta won the FA cup playing the worst football of his managerial career. Arsenal won 4 FA cups in the space of 7 years being miles away from 1st and were heavily criticized for not challenging for titles and not being involved in the Champions League. That's progression, and performing for the odd game in a small cup competition masks that.

@frankford1115

20 күн бұрын

A small competition? The FA Cup? Are you a footballer? Have you won anything? Many really good players never win anything. 4 FA Cups is excellent. Show some respect and do not be churlish.

@eels45

19 күн бұрын

@@frankford1115 FA cup compared to Champions league and the premier league is small in stature. You aren't seeing Portsmouth & Wigan winning the likes of those.

Arsenal need to do what Liverpool did in 19/20 and just steamroll from the start of the season. You don’t want to give city time to build momentum

@alexbelotti1603

25 күн бұрын

That’s right, now Arteta has established Havertz and solely Timber will have a pre season for once. Arsenal will start the season off very good.

@tikemyson5627

25 күн бұрын

​@@alexbelotti1603 havertz had a pre season at arsenal last year

@GermanChickenwing

25 күн бұрын

Liverpool had no challenger that season because Kompany, Sane and Laporte didnt play that season.. City played with Otamendi and old man Fernandihno at the back.. Arsenal will need something like that to happen again..Pep aint going out without the pl , if he is really leaving

@alexbelotti1603

25 күн бұрын

@@tikemyson5627timber was meant to be Arsenals left back last season and is god willing now fully fit

@eldio2124

25 күн бұрын

@@GermanChickenwing Mate, Liverpool won 25 out of their first 26 games in the league that season. Call me crazy but I don’t believe city having “sane”, “laporte” and “kompany” would have bridged that gap pal

Simons predictions come with an authoritative tone but he’s as accurate as as a paraplegic darts player

@JohnDoe-xv4rp

25 күн бұрын

Technically a paraplegic darts player could be quite accurate if it's only his bottom half paralysed.

When you look at what Arteta has done at arsenal ok he’s not swimming in trophy’s but he took on one of the hardest jobs in football. Fractured fan base, players going through the motions just picking up their pay cheques, some players that were basically uncoachable on very high wages that meant Arsenal couldn’t sell them. His turned that around brought in players that the fans can get behind, got a style of play that we love to watch and has brought us to the cusp of winning the league twice only being beaten by a team that has vastly superior resources, also let’s not forget how city have got there, the alleged 115 charges. I Don’t think there is too many managers who could’ve turned Arsenal around like that. Just look at United and Ten Haag, his got all the same problems we had and he doesn’t look like he has a clue how to get united out of it.

@Samw8484

25 күн бұрын

If he don't win anything next season would you sack him? He would of been there 6 seasons and only lifted an FA cup which was in his first season.

@legahsee1able

25 күн бұрын

​​@@Samw8484I love it when people say "Emery's team win the FA Cup" because that means that Emery's team also finished 8th in the league. It's the same argument. But yes, if Arteta doesn't bring home any trophies next season then serious questions need to be asked. I also think that will also depend on the season as a whole. I agree he's had a very difficult job changing not only the team, but the culture at the club and all of this done as his first managerial job. But believe me, as a fan I'm definitely expecting some kind of silverware next season, otherwise like I said he will be seriously looked at.

@seanolusina6058

25 күн бұрын

​@@Samw8484At least get your facts right. The FA cup begins in January for premier league teams. When did Arteta take over?December 2019. Stop repeating silly comments you've read on the Internet.

@Oskka

25 күн бұрын

Look at what klopp walked in too at Liverpool

@thebandthatisDAVE

25 күн бұрын

Arteta has moved our club out of the dark. Season ticket holder since 69! Seen many ups and many downs! Wenger built us the ems! Arteta made it home. No more toxicity. Loud and proud! I smile at most games this past 2 seasons! It’s all so pleasing to the eye and too the soul! Love the boss!

To answer Jim’s question. Simply 6 games in the FA cup is not of the same value of weight of 38 games in the league and 6 games in the Champions League in which they finished 8th with a negative goal difference and bottom of their Champions League group. It’s about consistency

@moneytree5682

25 күн бұрын

Thats true but being able to win a trophy with a team shouldn't be dismissed. I'd argue that when Arteta won the FA Cup with Arsenal it was proof in my eyes that Arsenal had a manager that could get them over the line in difficult circumstances. I think the same judgment should be given to Ten Hag.

@summerain11

25 күн бұрын

The difference between champions mentality and participation mentality.. do you see Man Utd glorifying the 7 times they were runners up in the prem?😅

@ryanentwisle9398

24 күн бұрын

@@summerain11exactly wat I was thinking

@strollic5162

24 күн бұрын

@@summerain11 "If I tell you, for example, that I consider one of the best jobs of my career was to finish second with Man United in the Premier League, you will say, 'this guy is crazy,'" - Jose Mourinho (then Man United Manager) 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@neildrew3027

24 күн бұрын

@@summerain11 if your happy with 8th and FA cup im happy for you, long may it continue, keep Ten Haag forever. please

Arsenal are serious contenders to win the League next season !! ...from a Liverpool supporter 😊

The hate jim white has for arteta and Arsenal is getting boring now

@flowen_music

25 күн бұрын

Do you still not understand what his job at talksport is? He’s not paid to be nice, he’s paid to play devils advocate so people like you get upset and build up the clicks and comments

@ItsAv3rageGamer

25 күн бұрын

Jim is on the spectrum bless him.

@AK47_.

25 күн бұрын

Ultimately, Arteta didn’t win anything. Yes he was close. But no cigar. You cannot be upset when someone states the bleeding obvious.

@martinoneill5274

24 күн бұрын

​@@flowen_music🎯 nailed it. Apart from Danny Murphy who's just a bitter ex Spurs player that also got humbled by Arsenal at Liverpool too there is no hate or bias. It's about engagement. It's just a fact that if they talk about Arsenal their sponsors get their views. Meanwhile City celebrate and no one cares

@strollic5162

24 күн бұрын

@@AK47_. If Arteta "didn't win anything"...then ETH has also "won nothing".

It's not just trophies and it can't be. What if a team like Utd, Liverpool, Cirt, Arsenal, finish 17th every season but win a League cup every other season and do nothing in Europe. Is that success due to the trophies despite finishing a place above the drop zone?

@centurion8446

25 күн бұрын

Trophies = more success than being also-rans tbh

@Diogo85

25 күн бұрын

​@@centurion8446Trophies are not a measure of progress, performance is.

@ryanentwisle9398

24 күн бұрын

@@Diogo85ure one of them u a delluder u tell ureself that gooner 🤡

@frankopanklaric

24 күн бұрын

What evidence do you have that you have acheived anything except for trophies? You play for trophies. Win a trophy. Second and third place are not trophies.

Is Jim old or is he not listening? Both Simon and Danny gave valid answers.

@clemmytjapaka722

25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@JS_246

25 күн бұрын

Same can be said of Ratcliffe, I think all Jim's are like that.

@whiteglovepc

25 күн бұрын

Jim just loves to rattle all the gooners

@garymardle2120

25 күн бұрын

He’s old and also annoying.

@moneytree5682

25 күн бұрын

They gave answers but he obviously didn't think they were good enough and I'm sure a lot of people agree with him including me.

Top teams don’t play full strength teams in cups. It does not have the same appeal like it used to. It’s as simple as that.

@katlegomakhudu-uq2em

25 күн бұрын

You definitely sound like an arsenal supporter cause wdym winning trophies doesn't appeal anymore 🤦🏾

@smu02ns

25 күн бұрын

So Arteta prioritised the league and failed

@DavidLawlor-ci8wz

24 күн бұрын

@@katlegomakhudu-uq2em Brentford season ticket holder. You saying I am false do you not see teams play there 2nd teams in cup especially early rounds ??

@user-br3ju3fw2o

23 күн бұрын

Weird post 😂😂😂

White seems to think winning a cup is superior to running City to the last day of the season and reaching last 8 of CL

@stevesalkas9128

24 күн бұрын

Drunk 115fc in fa cup😅

@BadAppleBlues

24 күн бұрын

Is Arsenal running MCFC to the last day of the season and reaching the last 8 of the Champions league gonna be on their role of honours won?

Is Jim White a Manc Fan? The Cup isn't what it used to be - based on the luck of the draw and one off performances, plus top 4 is the benchmark.

The award was for the top achieving coach whose club doesn't have 115 charges against them.

@dengjokmuonydeng4969

23 күн бұрын

The award was 4 bottling

@gazf09

23 күн бұрын

@@dengjokmuonydeng4969 Thats new, well done

@michaelelah8106

23 күн бұрын

Arteta is also part of the 115. He was Pep's Assistant 😅

2:04 Danny Murphy catching strays 😂

@Orillionn

25 күн бұрын

Murphy needs to go back on the bag 😄

I would rather be in Arsenals position as a football club with Arteta, than be in ETH position with Manchester united's.

@altberlin3826

25 күн бұрын

Exactly!!!!

@asmo2183

25 күн бұрын

winning nothing?

@m4767

25 күн бұрын

Because Arteta leaped to where he is now? Laaaaaaaame

@g-nativesoulofficial603

25 күн бұрын

Remember Arteta finished 8th 2 consecutive times in his first season vs a manager with 2 trophies in his 2 seasons

@legahsee1able

25 күн бұрын

Finishing 2nd behind arguably the best team in Europe and with a champions league place? I agree

A cup win can sometimes paper over a whole load of cracks and that is what Man U did at the weekend , they have not progressed at all

@josephokwechime7619

24 күн бұрын

but there is context tho

jim clearly doesnt understand progression is the mark of a good coach. man city wins everything, the coach is a less important cog in that machine but for example a coach comes into a team struggling and in 1 year gets them a third further up the table then which coach has performed better?

If there is one thing ive learnt listening to Simon Jordan, it's whatever he says assume the opposite happens and you will do pretty well out of it.

@mickwen4ever188

25 күн бұрын

100% agree with you! This year he also say Arsenal will win the league! The best coach is base on vote! Is like Messi won the Ballon d'Or, he still saying Ronaldo is the best! Did Ronaldo won the WC? Man Utd definitely had a better season than Arsenal! No need to debate! You want your team every year finishing second place, or every year winning trophy? I rather my team winning trophy every year! Unless we need to fight for relegation! Simon Jordan always talking sense! But when talking about club from London, he always bias! That's fact!

@neducationalmusic4738

25 күн бұрын

Why blatantly lie,he never at any point ripped arsenal to win,lets not be silly here​@@mickwen4ever188

"Why are trophies no longer the most important marker for measuring a manager and their progress?" Simon actually already answered that. First and foremost, he said they *do* matter, but *context* indeed *also* must be taken into consideration. What has changed is that we *now* know that trophies *help* measure progress, but they're not the *only* measure of progress, *and* that one more cup trophy in *Year 1* (and Year 2) is *not* a good predictor of future *league* trophies! And yes, even the "trophies are most important" crowd often *include* context by saying, "one Premier League title is far more important and prestigious than two League Cups." And yes, as Simon mentioned, *other* contextual factors matter! The quickest and most blatant example, Unai Emery *could* win "more trophies" if - instead of finishing top 4 and going to the Champions League - he finished *outside* the top four and qualified for the Europa League (where his team would be one of the favorites to win that trophy)! If he finished *outside* the top 4 and then *won* the Europa League next year, would he be a *better* manager and be making *more* progress than if he finished in the top 4? Because *that* is the argument that is being made with "trophies are all that matters" and "a trophies is a trophy - ignore all other context!" 😂😂😂😂 Short version: in addition to the fact that it *never* fully was "a trophy is a trophy, forget all other context" (even those making that argument regularly *broke* that rule and *included* context by discussing *which* trophies mattered more), again, the simple fact is that the idea that "trophie measurements *alone* - no other context allowed - are the *only* way to judge the entirety of a team's progress" is completely and horribly *wrong,* and we've *always* known that (and those who didn't are starting to figure it out)!

@akakedi9061

25 күн бұрын

I get it that for medium to small clubs that tend tonbe middle to bottom in the league year in year out, trophies don't matter or indeed winning anything because its staying in the race. For the big clubs, it's about winning trophies. If not what's the yard stick they keep using to compare pep with sir Alex or the big clubs- it's winning trophies. If we use same yardstick they seem to be using downgrading trophies like the FA cup, I would rate the UCL low since a club that came 5th in the league (liverpool) can win it! Simon andnco just hate united!

@mazdakmina9493

25 күн бұрын

@@akakedi9061 LOL That's not at all what I said! Re-read what I said! I specifically said that trophies *do* matter - and you claimed I said they don't! Please don't gaslight and claim I said things I never said!

@akakedi9061

25 күн бұрын

Indeed, glad we are aligned.

@ryanentwisle9398

24 күн бұрын

@@akakedi9061I know unreal how some ppl are unbelivably bitter or delusional like arsenal

@mazdakmina9493

24 күн бұрын

@@akakedi9061 LOL More gaslighting! I quite literally said you gaslighted and did not read my comment correctly! Now you're claiming I agreed with your response? Stop gaslighting and re-read my comment!

I’m old. Not old enough to remember Chapman’s Arsenal in the 1930’s and the George Allison takeover when Herb unexpectedly dropped dead of flu/bronchitis or something (this was quite common back then), although my father was. I’ve watched every Arsenal side since about 1970. This is one of the best. The 1971 double winning team were decent but they were just opportunists in a season where there were no standout teams. Then long period of mediocrity. Then late 1980s a resurgence but playing dreadful, negative football which you can’t resist but don’t have to like. George Graham is hardly an Arsenal hero, apart from the moneyanigans his teams were like watching 10 well- drilled full backs. Then another ‘wildnerness years’. Then ‘Arsene Who?’ First full season he conceded the title to Man U at Christmas being 12 pts behind an awesome team. Then Bergkamp remembered he could play, and slowly the lead went, and even with crazy injuries (at one point Wenger brought in an unsigned amateur related to George Weah called Chris Wreh, he scored 3-4 crucial goals on the run-in!) they won title and double etc. More bonkers success followed. My point is, not since the 1930s has Arsenal been a winning machine. They occasionally show what they can do but it’s a treat not an entitlement. Not even under Wenger did we really think we were building to something BIG. Now we’re thinking. It might not happen. But Arteta is actually looking at the possibility and I don’t think any Arsenal boss since Chapman has seriously done this. He hasn’t lifted a thing (early FA Cup I don’t count) but I think he’s looking at the possibility. I personally am not bothered about Arsenal not winning anything yet. Man City are a very very good team and 4 titles on the bounce is quite the thing. But it depends what you have in mind. Nick one, like Klopp, or try to establish a dominance based not on money (and we still don’t know what the City legal matter will amount to) but on sheer football. Of course Guardiola is brilliant. But I’m not seeing new shapes any more. Permanent Revolution is hard, just ask Trotsky. Right now I’m thinking, Timber don’t do another cruciate, just yet, there’s a new pattern there but it requires you I suspect. This isn’t Arsenal attempting to steal a title in an easy year. Arteta is attempting to create a better team than Man City or this year’s version of Real Madrid or someone. He’s just not there yet. But that’s what he’s trying to do.

@seanolusina6058

25 күн бұрын

Lovely commentary

@Euro2020-yh6lk

25 күн бұрын

Great comment, Peter. COYG.

@hegeliandianetik2009

24 күн бұрын

Us younger Gunners appreciate you Peter, our generation has too many reactionary people who lack the historical context to really appreciate what Mikel Arteta is building towards

Simon Jordan is an Arsenal fan, he is one of us.

It's like saying Wigan winning the FA Cup and getting relegated in the same season equals successful manager. Jim Jim Jim 🤫

Aren’t these the same people that were moaning about Arteta being animated on the touchline?

Jim White Arsenal beat Manchester City but still didn't win the league, beating a Manchester City side that had one mind on the beaches is not that great and Arsenal have 14 far cups

Portsmouth won the FA Cup and got relegated

our tetta and ten hard? Gotta love the subtitles lol!!!

The standards at Man United have fallen imagine Bayern Barca or Real Madrid finishing 8th, it’s unimaginable

Watching that I was just thinking is Jim wearing a Man U shirt under his top cause wow.

Same as what they said last season

"Oh don't start all that" Danny hates facts that expose Klopp as a bridesmaid

If pep is leaving next season, he's not letting anybody else win anything

@theach84

25 күн бұрын

It’s not just up to pep. The fa cup was an example how not always up to pep.

@theach84

25 күн бұрын

This whole mentality of let’s all lay down for pep is sad.

@smu02ns

25 күн бұрын

@@theach84it’s almost as if he’s won all but one league title since 2018

@flowen_music

25 күн бұрын

@@theach84yea but city always have a flop in them against united. If they were playing Arsenal in cup final it would have been 3-0 city easily

@goonerboymuza

25 күн бұрын

@@flowen_music city failed to beat arsenal in 3 attempts last season, you’re logic is failed my friend,

Kualitas dilihat bagaimana cara tim bermain,dan konsistensi mereka.disini jelas arsenal memilikinya!

Most teams are one injury away of falling from the cliff. Keep your predictions to yourself.

@PKcrtz

25 күн бұрын

spot on. If rice/saliba/odegaard got injured they’d absolutely crumble

@alexbelotti1603

25 күн бұрын

@@PKcrtzArsenal would cope without Rice and Saliba now, Odergard would be the biggest miss.

@PKcrtz

25 күн бұрын

@@alexbelotti1603 with who won holding and jorginho?

@alexbelotti1603

25 күн бұрын

@@PKcrtzBen white can play centre back. Arsenal have strength in-depth in defence now with Timber fit.

@GermanChickenwing

25 күн бұрын

​​@@alexbelotti1603Man said Timber 😂😂😂.. You mean the Timber that carried Arsenal to pl title or cl final? We have only seen 45min of him at Arsenal..Dude Arsenal were very lucky with injuries this season that just ended

Pep is gonna leave to save his reputation before than Man City 115 hammer comes

Doesn’t always work that way. What if they finish third?

He said that last year

He said that last season

No one will remember the second position.

@stevesalkas9128

24 күн бұрын

They do like it or not running 115fc to season in a row people remember

Well, I don't know who gives Jim the info that the GSA was in Dubai, but I assure you that yesterday the location was Sardinia in Italy. And I know what I'm talking about.

Because it’s become about the money, how much do united get for winning the fa cup and entry to Europa cup versus champions league. Attracting the best talent and developing requires playing at the top level consistently

From Conte winning trophies with Spurs, to Arsenal winning the title, if you actually track Simon's football predictions it's woeful. Speaks a lot of common sense on business topics but tactics, managers, team development... 🤣😂

Arsenal need a striker and a replacement for Partey. Break the bank for Isak.

Where did Klopp finsih last year Danny?

Kloop and Pep best of friends . Boring. We need managers at each others throats to sell papers

Under ole we finished 2nd and they said he doesnt have trophies now we have trophies they say isnt not good enough

Then you get Postegoglu who won London manager of the year award and he won 1 london derby all season

As a villa fan highlight when we lost Jack and then Dean Smith went both villa born and raised and I thought trusts it were going down and without a Dean or Jack how do we get back to the item but I was wrong and look at us now .

1st 3 years Arteta got 2 europa league places. EtH one CL and 1 Europa league place. 2nd year finished 8 and was almost fried

@Baasta

25 күн бұрын

Arteta had identity on his team that’s the difference

@denisako6493

25 күн бұрын

@@Baasta lol he was almost sacked you talking about what identity?

@g-nativesoulofficial603

25 күн бұрын

​@@Baastafalse we saw the identity last season not his 1st 3 seasons

@danadams8649

25 күн бұрын

Man Utd spent more and are a much bigger club you donut....

@ItsAv3rageGamer

25 күн бұрын

@@g-nativesoulofficial603 Go and watch our goals against Man City in the semi final in his first 6 months and tell me there wasn't an identity.

idgi is the guy in the middle a spurs fan?

Arsenal just need to pick up where they left off because there isn’t really much wrong with the team. People will point to the Villa game but it was really the first half of the season that cost Arsenal as they weren’t really in the groove. So if they can start well next season I’m sure they will be running City very close again and might finally get the better of them.

Yet talksport didn't question when they gave Londons manager of the season to Ange Postagoglou earlier in the season.

Maresca shouldn't be so carelessly dismissed. His players speak about him the same way Arteta's do about him. Maresca also worked under Pep at City.

Trophies are still the marker Jim , and the most important is called the premier league trophy

Nahh.. Arsenal will not win the title whilst pep is there. Let's be honest city had 80 percent of its first team out.. Kdb 5 months, halland, 7 weeks, stones, Diaz, ake, foden, akanji, grealish, doku, ederson, rodri, walker, kovacic and still won the title from behind...

Its not even an argument, but as usual when Jordan and Murphy agree its down to whoever's in the middle (in this case White) to listen to the producers and push the other side of the conversation. Especially when very few will agree as it creates content and gets the switchboard lit up. I should even really be writing this as it plays into their hands! But if Jim White really doesn't understand why a 6 game cup run is not as valuable a barometer as a 38 game season, then he shouldn't be working in sports in the first place, but he does understand, which is why he's a presenter and not a Journalist/Broadcaster!

Because any team can turn up for 90 mins in a final.

Context is everything! If the Best Coach award only went to the manager of the team that won the best competition only Champions League winning coaches would win every year

It’s weird that Jim, who hates Mourinho and Conte, wants us to consider trophies when we’re talking about guys like Ten Hag and not the football we’re watching

No one wants to talk about where arteta’s arsenal finished in his second season - 8th

If it was a level playing field... We could judge everybody equally

Danny Murphy adds so little every time i hear him

Think I'm more likely to find a juvenile Sasquatch hiding in my boiler room

Well we all know they're gonna bottle it last minute.

@bobbynadeem7670

25 күн бұрын

Anfield 1989... The biggest bottle job in the history of sports..... 😂

@Liverpool_YNWA12345

25 күн бұрын

@@bobbynadeem7670 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 we're not talking about the past, we're talking about the present and how Arsenal are the biggest BOTTLEJOBS at the moment 🤣

@Liverpool_YNWA12345

25 күн бұрын

You guys play so good in the first half of the season but then always, ALWAYS, end up bottling it last minute LOL 😆 🤣

Arsenal need to sign onana from Everton immediately

It always amazes me that people like Jim can't see past things like "but he won twofy so he must be better than coaches that didn't"

The hate it unreal with Tenhag he came 8th yes but it’s like the people are blind the man had 60 injuries wtf is he suppose to do

Its Artetas last dance next season, they have to get a world class striker and even then the pressure will be imense. I think Pep will win it and it will be his last season at City.

Fa cup not the competition it once was. Teams often put out reserve players

They refuse to strengthen the one position that will get them over the line.

Answer to the question is City, if they go a season trophyless,, I don't think anyone will say they're not outstanding because they would have challenged

Danny slipped up there. It was agreed we are 5 years into project Arteta, then he said ETH and Man Utd are miles off that. Earlier in the episode they said Arteta finished 8th with Arsenal, twice actually. In fact they are both in similar spots. Arsenal were a laughing stock then as Utd are now.

Jim only one making sense

Don’t forget Arteta won the FA cup in his first year, then he had to get rid of a lot of deadwood players at Arsenal that you can only do in transfer windows, then he has to build his own team that again you can only do in transfers windows all this takes time, to turn Arsenal back from finishing outside the top 4 to challenging again is a amazing, first ever managerial job for Arteta and already he’s pushing Pep all the way, top manager, only a matter of time before he starts winning trophies,

@jamesstark6115

25 күн бұрын

😂

Ultimate success is winning trophies but it's not the ONLY success - we don't live in such a black or white / zero sum game world. If we did and to use an analogy, the point and focus of life each day would be simply staying alive; success! As we know, there's a lot more to it than that. To quote Simon - "nuance please chaps" :)

No way Arsenal should forget about winning the league anytime soon

I would imagine that Pep leaves if ManC win next season. I'm not so sure Pep leaves if Arsenal win next season. The challenge may stimulate Pep to stay and compete.

@NickChemist-yf6oj

25 күн бұрын

Pep leaves once those 115 charges go to court

Pep has won 6 titles in 8 seasons. Why should we all forget his first season at City?

Why is it that every time i see a picture of Saka he's got his tongue stuck out ..We get this on the BBC website as well! Im sure most people dont want to see it 😮. I cant stand the player either, Always pretending to limp ..But virtually never misses a game.

Would you put Roberto Martinez in charge on Man United? Trophies are one part of management. You have to set up to succeed. It's why Jose got sacked.

Imagine what the Spurs and Chelsea fans will say if Arsenal do win the league next season. I guarantee it won't count because they've spent money or because City were distracted by the FFP investigation or Pep's future or they won't have done it in enough style. Even the invincibles drew too many games, you'd have thought the way Spurs and Chelsea fans talk that teams manage unbeaten seasons all the time.

@TP-pq9xx

25 күн бұрын

Arsenal have spent as much as City and Liverpool combined in the last 5 years. So if they do ever win a title, it’s perfectly fair to bring that up as context. Everything Pep has ever won has been viewed through that lens so why should Arteta be treated with kid gloves?

@ItsAv3rageGamer

25 күн бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx Look at the team Arteta started with and look at the team Pep started with for a start.

@TP-pq9xx

25 күн бұрын

@@ItsAv3rageGamer Pep inherited a City team that reached 66 points the season before and Arteta inherited an Arsenal squad that had 70 points the season before. What am I supposed to be looking at again?

@ItsAv3rageGamer

25 күн бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx ok so you’re dim, best we stop the conversation here. If you need explaining how a team that had been champions 12 months before compares to a team Arteta picked up in the bottom half of the table you’re not worth my time. You’re too stupid to hold a reasonable conversation.

Arsenal's problem last season was after match week 30 and this season was during the Christmas period. So ,the problem is consistency

@Diogo85

25 күн бұрын

They were mostly consistent this year.

On holiday here in Rimini (Italy) at the moment….Gazzetta Della Sport newspaper have Inzaghi favourites with the Italian Bookmakers over here, should Pep decide to hang up his boots…Inzaghi’s contract expires at Inter the exact same day as Pep’s at City next season, so no compensation owed, never crossed my mind this manager but he’s a proven winner with Champions League pedigree too 🤔

How the hell can he be positive about this ,its ridiculous

Arsenal won 3 out of 4 FA Cups towards the end of Wengers time. Although it was great to win the FA Cup multiple times, all this did was paper over the cracks that were obvious. Arsenal fans want to win the league again and get back to the early 2000's and with this current group of players with Arteta, we are very close to doing it and way ahead of the Arsenal teams winning the FA Cups, who were also getting battered to every big 4 team during the in Prem.

Distilling success to winning any trophy is dumbing things down to a whole new level. Arteta won the FA cup in 2020, but would any Arsenal fans want the club to go from this season's "trophy-less team" to the "trophy-winning team" of 2020? fck no!

What has arteta done to jim? He seriously doesn't like him😂

COYG

they has their chance and they blew it

Danny Murphy “ten hags second season doubly as bad as the first one” how was the first one bad in any sense of the word?!

Arteta was with pep when he was playing a false number 9,now it seems Arteta can only play with a false number9

Jim white defo had money on arsenal winning the league. He’s fuming 😂

Not a chance, they'll be plagued by injuries, not least to Odegaard and one of their big defenders.

@joefernandes4256

25 күн бұрын

Partey, Timber, Jesus, Tomayasu, Saka towards the end I don't remember the rest. Mikel rotates.

Danny Murphy actually talking facts for once. Man United are in a right state, meanwhile their entire fanbase are focusing on the “we had a more successful season than arsenal” trophy 😂

@willjmartin74

25 күн бұрын

Well, we did actually win a trophy. And last year as well.

@InesVandehoof

25 күн бұрын

You mean the same person that eth had a terrible first season and always biased ehen it comes to liverpoll?? Sureeeee facts ... fans know where we are but we trust in eth progress ..not agendas

@TheSwerve222

25 күн бұрын

@@willjmartin74 Still shite though, and you know it

@jackdelacey2505

25 күн бұрын

​@@TheSwerve222and still winning trophies

@Lovelydropp

25 күн бұрын

@@InesVandehoof mate thé reason EVERYONE is laughing at u lot is because we have watched your team get played off the park every weekend for the past 2 years and because u keep on banging on about “progress” when realistically United have gone backwards 🤣

In the era of Pep and Man City, the soulless, infinite money pit and the grinding inevitability of City coupled with the best manager on the planet in Pep yes, managers have to be judged by other metrics than just winning. Klopp and Liverpool won every trophy there is to win, came within 1 point of winning the league twice (18/19 and 22/23) and is miles ahead of all the other managers besides Pep and even he only won 1 PL title compared to what Pep won so if winning PL titles are all that matters in this conversation we might as well just not have the conversation since Pep will be the winner every year (except the one year Klopp won it). Now that the era of Pep and Klopp is over after next year Arteta and Emery and maybe others will take up the title and maybe more than 2 managers will be able to be talked about

heard all this last season. Come next May you'll be calling the league boring again.

Can Jim seriously not see the difference between success and clear progression in the right direction? Yes ETH won a trophy, but Arteta is positioning Arsenal to have a chance of winning the biggest trophies for years to come. Any team could put all their eggs in the domestic cup basket and win one every now and then, but to be the best team in the league is a different story, and United look about 5 years from being anywhere near that. But at least Jim can sleep easy with his cup

Why is Jim on the show he is totally clueless

Eddie Howe is top dog

I actually believe that neither Arsenal nor City will win the league next season. There's a high turnover of managers among the big clubs...Liverpool, Chelsea (possibly United) so I think there could be a potential shift in the dynamic at the top of the table.

@danadams8649

25 күн бұрын

you are stupid if you think that, complete nonsense.

@notoriouseagle1074

25 күн бұрын

Spurs?